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Thanks for making a bunch of bullshit assumptions about me based on exactly nothing at all.<br><br>Some of my absolute favorite film music is heavily electronic. I adore Daft Punk's Tron Legacy score. I love what John Powell has done with the Bourne series, and in general, anything he does with electronics works. I think the techno-influenced stuff in the Matrix scores (Reloaded in particular) is phenomenal. So is the electronica in David Arnold's Bond scores. So is the opening action cue ("Touge") from Brian Tyler's third Fast and Furious score. Those scores work for me, not because they are either electronic or orchestral, but because they combine the two brilliantly to create something totally new, unique and memorable.<br><br>When I listen to The Causeway I don't hear anything like that. I hear a wailing screech effect, off-the-shelf drum loops, bland ostinatos and tired Inception-style foghorn blasts. It's as unpleasant and generic a modern action cue as you could possibly hope never to hear. With the possible exception of the screech, you could transpose it into pretty much any other modern action movie without anybody noticing the difference. Electronic, orchestral, it doesn't matter - I don't like The Causeway because it's simply not good music to me.@Edmund Meinerts, because you are a closed minded and you only accept music in orchestral style.<br><br>If you don't like The Causeway stop listening music please, you know NOTHING about composition secuences.<br><br>Ah, and by the way, I assume you are a person who thinks that metalcore, industrial, deathmetal and similar genres are just noise. Like I said, you know nothing, and this is why the "amateur critic" is so irrelevant.And I don't think that Henry Jackman is the main problem, after X:Men First Class and Kingsman he demostrated that he know how to aproach a comic book film....<br>Maybe the problem is the directors or the production process. Maybe they dont gave Henry time or ideas to make something great.So I guess our choices these days are between decent themes poorly used (Marvel) or lame themes that slap you over the head until you're sick of them (DC). What a world...Ok, it is true. This OST sounds better than The Winter Soldier score, more coherent with the tone of the rest of MCU's film. <br>The problem again, in spite of the fact that the music sounds nice is that it is generic music, without soul, without emotion.<br>Presencial music, simply of landfill and not to give personality to the film.<br>In this particular, DC/Warner demonstrates more respect for the way of doing cinema, respecting the function of the OST in the movie.<br>In only 2 movies already we have musical themes for Superman, Zod, Batman, Wonder Woman and Lex Luthor.<br>And not only they sound well but it has personality, represent excellently his respective character and in the movie they use as narrator and give power to the images.<br>It is a shame that after a notable OST like Age of Ultron again Marvel returns to this musical emptiness that he accustoms. <br>And I do not hate Marvel's OST.<br>I love Tyler Bates's Guardians, Silvestri's First Avenger and Avengers or the nices duo Elfman/Tyler in Ultron. All fenomenal scores whit great and memorable main themes and good musical script. Something that Civil War completely forgotten.
This ! But here again, most of the great orchestral work on the first was Dom...I didn't say I heard the full score. I heard the OST. There's a difference.Just finished listening to it for the first time. I've never been a fan of TWS. Yeah, sure I listened to it once before the movie and enjoyed the music in the end titles in the cinemas but that's just about it. Never wanted to revisit it. <br><br>This score, though it's much more orchestral and traditional it just seemed incoherent to me. The themes are there but, they simply are not developed. It just felt like everything is stitched together randomly. May be it's because how the movie itself is. So many characters, so much stuff happening. It probably suits well enough with the movie. But, the music should take the movie to another level and not feel like "yeah it was okay". Henry is capable of much better stuff than this.I like that Jackman took a more orchestral approach, but it sounds like he completely ditched the Taking A Stand theme, which sucks. I would have loved to hear an orchestral version of that theme.@Edmund The album version sure. The film version however... :D<br><br>I will say Into the Fray is the best cue from that score. Falcon's theme is just badass, I don't think Jackman brought it back here.
Obviously, I see that Dom Lewis didn't work on this one, but there are still a couple "additionals"...Hybrid, it does seem like Dom Lewis did a reasonably sizable amount in TWS. Was this more exclusively Jackman?So that's two people so far describing "The Causeway" as "powerful"...man, for me that was one of the worst cues from TWS!My initial impressions after one listen:<br><br>I really love that Jackman took the opportunity to distinguish this score from TWS (which I do enjoy). Instead of completely rehashing the style/themes, or fully abandoning the concepts, he managed to find a perfect middle ground which feels like a natural progression of the music. Both The Winter Soldier and Cap's themes actually get development, something I was initially worried about.<br><br>In regards to the orchestrations and themes, the bombastic approach works really well! While there is nothing as powerful as The Causeway or Taking a Stand, the action cues shine. Kudos for the interplay between themes! The end result is a score that is far more varied in style than TWS was. Even the new themes introduced are pretty strong.<br><br>Now the bullshit; Why the FUCK can Marvel not understand thematic consistency? One of the better things about Age of Ultron was the integration and development of the existing themes in the universe. Here, neither Iron Man's nor The Avengers themes get any mention at all (outside of a few small hints here and there). This is what kills the score for me. Hopefully the film tracks in some music to fill in the gaps.<br><br>So yeah, this is a mixed bag. On one hand it's a pretty heroic and developed score. On the other, it's a HUGELY missed opportunity. Oh well, here's hoping Infinity Wars fixes this issue.<br><br>*Side Note: Is it just me or does the orchestrated version of Winter Soldiers theme (Overture, Adagio) sound like Morricone's The Thing?Loved this much more than TWS, which was just flat out boring aside from the Winter Soldier theme (despite being distinctive, made for an unbearable listening experience). Some of the action material just feels like some filler material. The themes feel less like themes and more like extended motifs. But the good thing is that they seem to be clearly defined this time around and are more upfront in their presentation.<br><br>Overall, much better than TWS, but I think Jackman needs to step up his game if he is working on Infinity War.
"Kudos", I won't say that.<br><br>So far I'm just disappointed by this score. It's like Pixels, it has the "big orchestral emptiness" I won't give a full opinion before I see the film tomorrow, but it's just so faaaaaar from Cap 2...<br><br>As I feared, without Dom & Matt, Jackman just seems lost...@Mike, the problem is the "generic" sound into. Scores like this: hundreds. If you change the title "Civil War" to Dracula Untold or Mission Impossible Rogue Nation also it works.<br><br>TWS had violent sounds making prominent and noteworthy, not like this. The only track with TWS music is "Boot Up".If the entire score sounds like the suite above, then I do have to give serious kudos to Jackman and co. for listening to criticisms. This score, from what I've heard, does at least have the TONE of the first Captain America and of the two Avengers movies, even if those themes aren't present, and that is a refreshing surprise.@ThePaleKing I can't say that my expectations are little lower now. But, your reaction is probably mine for The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug. I said "This has no themes and mainly background noise. This is not as good as the original." But then I saw the movie and it worked. I went back and heard it again and loved it the second time. Maybe you need to see the film and you'll probably have a different reaction. Where have you heard the score?@Russel I was just wondering where you heard the whole score.
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