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John Powell would be an amazing choice, if only to get him more mainstream exposure. <br><br>The thing is, if you strip away the drums, sound design, and harsh-mixing Tom is a actually a pretty gifted ďclassicalĒ composer imo. His string writing has always impressed me, and seeing his use of woodwinds in Alita definitely proved that he can write outside of the mold Hollywood had put him in post-Mad Max.<br><br>Avatar 2 is most likely going to need a pretty diverse score, if the first one is any indicator. James Horner combined traditional orchestra, tribal drums, ethnic elements, electronics, and masculine action writing. All of which I could see Tom doing quite well.Chrono order goes like this :<br><br>Dublin 1996<br>Driving<br>Deceit<br>Second Warning<br>First Warning<br>Research<br>Conversations<br>The Beating<br>Traynor Lies<br>Never Show Your Fear<br>Preparations<br>The Killing<br>Bad News<br>The Funeral<br>One More Day<br><br>But some tracks have cues edited together, and some titles are not exactly perfect lol...Atli is fine in Iceland, maybe he just doesn't want to look for trouble anymore... :)Lorne did work on this score. At the very end, when the film (and therefore, the score) was getting butchered by editors to shorten it, there was very little time to rework the score to adapt it to the new cut. So Steve called Lorne for help, who agreed but asked not to be credited (his team was, so it kinda defeated the purpose lol)... They didn't do THAT much on the score, but Battlefield is indeed a LB cue (it sounds nothing like SJ).<br><br>Not the first time this happened. Lorne extensively worked on TF1 & 2 (credited), but also helped (uncredited) on TF3 (there again, his assistant back then Andrew K. was credited).Alright, that's ^^ a bit too far, but I agree that there's not enough evidence to really support the theory. The only compositions that seem like Balfe might have had a hand in are the various reprises of "Bumblebee" (aka the Journey theme) that was always rumored to be co-composed by Balfe, and the big choral section in "Your Voice" when the knights begin attacking Optimus, as that is also a progression I associate heavily with Balfe's involvement in the first 2 scores. But that's still not enough to prove that he was involved.<br><br>By the way Bayhem, I don't believe that John Williams or Howard Shore have lied about doing their work by themselves. John Williams has worked with William Ross and probably others, but I don't think they're lying when they say they've done a score themselves. They seem like they can compose on their own just fine.
Yep, if "deserving" existed, Atli would've gotten many more movies than he currently does.Anyone know of a proper chronological listing of this score? I tried cross-referencing it with the expanded listed here and made this:<br><br>01 Dublin, 1996<br>02 <br>03 <br>04 <br>05 Second Warning<br>06 Research<br>07 Driving<br>08 The Beating<br>09 Traynor Lies<br>10 Never Show Your Fear<br>11 Preparations<br>12 The Killing<br>13 Bad News<br>14 The Funeral<br>15 One More Day<br><br>But I have no idea where Conversations, First Warning, and Deceit goes, and I'm not sure if Traynor Lies and Driving are placed correctlyif you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap<br>..................<br><br>Fair enough....But look back on the comment itself. It's kinda confusing. The way you wrote it created the illusion that Lorne not only ghostwrote the score, but he also dismissed it as crap. You didn't say "I dismissed the rumor". You said: "...a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap." <br> <br><br>Anyway, moving on.....<br><br>Steve was interviewed a lot about The Last Knight and it's pretty obvious that he worked hard on that score. From the day they started shooting the movie. Was he supported by other composers? Absolutely. You can't score such a huge movie by yourself. Any composer who claims that is lying.<br><br>So there's nothing shocking or surprising about the fact that other composers were involved here. As for them being "Lorne's people"......well, considering how MV/RC-related composers work and how interconnected everything is, the "Lorne guys" could very well be friends with Steve too and perhaps he simply brought them on board. Or they were recommended by Lorne. It certainly doesn't mean that there was this top secret plan of them and Lorne actually ghostwriting the entire score. I still wonder tho......how do these rumors even come up? Who spreads them? And why? I ask because this is not the first time I've heard rumors about Zimmer scores and Jablonsky scores. It's always these two guys. Which happen to be two of the most prominent and popular MV/RC guys. Coincidence? Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but it kinda makes me think that someone is intentionally trying to undermine the biggest MV/RC names by constantly throwing shade at their work."Deserving" is a word that doesn't exist in Hollywood, so stop thinking that way... lolThe problem I have with Junkie XL scoring Avatar is just that there are so many RCP composers better or more deserving. You have Zimmer, Powell, Gregson-Williams, Mancina, Jackman, Wallfisch...it is just so wrong to think Junkie XL is scoring Avatar and none of those guys are.
I think that Tim Miller played a greater role in case of Terminator and Sonic. And I really don't see Junkie as good choice for Avatar 2.@Edmund <br>I still stand by my opinion that Holkenborg scoring Avatar 2 could be pretty interesting. Pairing him up with a director who is known to be strict with his musical choices and continuing on from James Hornerís classic might produce something really good. And seeing his gradual progress as a composer with Mortal Engines and Alita have personally given me some hope (2 years ago I would have said hell no).<br><br>And Iím not surprised by the choice for T6. Not looking forward to this project at all but we did get a cool score from Balfe for the last one so maybe there is some hope for the music at least.I think Terminator is a decent match for JXL's talents (listen to "The March" from Divergent), but this feels like further evidence that James Cameron is grooming him for Avatar 2, which I really hope ends up not being the case.Yes, Tom will be scoring the new Terminator movieChill out Bayhem, if you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap.<br>But seeing people from his team ivolved and considering the fast and furious situation, I canít help but wondering if thereís some truth to that rumor.<br>Now for a guy talking about haters, saying that Lorne scores 36million projects and B movies (forgetting mission impossible) I think youíre pushing it a bit.<br>Anyway no hate I donít care who wrote it Iím just curious about the behind the scenes stuff.
You're reaching there a bit Bayhem, I see no one in this thread trying to undermine Steve's work or the score. Hell the first poster was just asking if Lorne worked on it and if so, to what extent. And the "rumor comment" is a logical extension of Lorne's whole regular team being credited on the score, therefore it is possible that he did additional work on it.Again a "rumor" comment that's trying to undermine Steve's work. And in this case, an entire score. Lorne fans, please stop trying to constantly undermine other composers in favor of your guy. It's childish and extremely disrespectful. You've done it multiple times on these boards. What's next? You gonna claim that Lorne secretly scored the entire Transformers franchise? And Lord of the Rings. And Harry Potter. <br><br>Seriously, it's getting really old, really fast. <br><br>Not to mention the fact that Steve, as a composer, is much, much more experienced and established than Lorne. He's got nothing to prove. Steve takes his time when it comes to scoring. He's choosing carefully. He's got more than enough time to focus on his projects. While Lorne's name is attached to 30 million different projects, some of them cheap B-movies like Hurricane Heist. And you think he's scoring them all by himself? The irony of it all is that if anyone is using ghostwriters most of the time, it's Lorne. Not Steve. And I'm saying that as a Lorne fan as well. I'm not just a Jablonsky fan. I appreciate Lorne's work as well. But I'm not undermining other composers in favor of him.Bay has Lorne scoring his films now cause they established a relationship on 13 Hours, and Bay didn't even want Lorne for that; he wanted Hans but he didn't want to go through the exhausting process of another Bay blockbuster so he brought in Lorne instead.<br>And even then, Hans still worked together with Lorne very closely on the project (Hybrid said he was there for all the meetings, helped with synth programming, etc)Of cause Balfe worked on it .That is why Bay now uses Balfeyou can absolutely hear the 13 hours temp track in Battlefield and We Have to Go
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 2019

  Alita - Battle Angel (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2018

  2018 FIFA World Cup Russia (TV) (Music Scoring Mixer)

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 2017

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 2016

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 2015

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  Scouts Guide To The Zombie Apocalypse (Score Recordist)


 2014

  G I R L (Album) (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  Winter's Tale (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Transformers - Age Of Extinction (Additional Recordings)

  The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (Score Recordist)

  Interstellar (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2013

  Pacific Rim (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Despicable Me 2 (Music Scoring Mixer)

  G.I. Joe - Retaliation (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Captain Phillips (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  The Smurfs 2 (Music Scoring Mixer)

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 2012

  Should've Been Romeo (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  The Dark Knight Rises (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2011

  Ironclad (Music Supervisor)

  Harry's Arctic Heroes (TV Documentary) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Transformers - Dark Of The Moon (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Winnie The Pooh (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  Puss In Boots (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Skylanders - Spyro's Adventure (VG) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Crysis 2 (VG) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Kung Fu Panda 2 (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Sherlock Holmes - A Game Of Shadows (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2010

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  Le Voyage Extraordinaire De Samy (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  Love & Other Drugs (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Inception (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Henri 4 (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  Tron Legacy (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2009

  It's Complicated (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Prisoner (TV Series) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Call Of Duty - Modern Warfare 2 (VG) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Transformers - Revenge Of The Fallen (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Angels & Demons (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  Monsters Vs Aliens (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2008

  Babylon A.D. (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  The Happening (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Madagascar - Escape 2 Africa (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Frost/Nixon (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Iron Man (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Vantage Point (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Dark Knight (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Metal Gear Solid 4 - Guns Of The Patriots (VG) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Kung Fu Panda (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2007

  I Am Legend (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Illegal Tender (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Michael Clayton (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Lookout (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Transformers (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  Pirates Of The Caribbean - At World's End (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Simpsons Game (VG) (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2006

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  Freedomland (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Keeping Up With The Steins (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Lady In The Water (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Da Vinci Code (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Holiday (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - The Beginning (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Urmel Aus Dem Eis (aka : Impy's Island) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  When A Stranger Calls (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Over The Hedge (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Pirates Of The Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Prestige (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2005

  Constantine (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Domino (Score Recordist)

  Duma (Music Scoring Mixer)

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  Into The West (TV Series) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  King Kong (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Madagascar (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Sin City (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Island (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Weather Man (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2004

  Blade Trinity (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Kill Bill : Vol. 2 (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Man On Fire (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Rancid (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Shrek 2 (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Spanglish (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Steamboy (Music Producer)

  Team America - World Police (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Catwoman (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2003

  Head of State (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Hollywood Homicide (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Once Upon A Time In Mexico (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Shrek-4-D (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Pirates Of The Caribbean - The Curse Of The Black Pearl (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Tears Of The Sun (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Italian Job (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Last Samurai (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Recruit (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Rundown (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Veronica Guerin (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Sinbad - Legend Of The Seven Seas (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2002

  D-Tox (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Drumline (Music Scoring Mixer)

  K-19 - The Widowmaker (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Phone Booth (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Spirit - Stallion Of The Cimarron (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Spy Kids 2 : Island Of Lost Dreams (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Bourne Identity (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Time Machine (Music Scoring Mixer)

  They (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Two Weeks Notice (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Adventures Of Pluto Nash (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2001

  Evolution (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Hannibal (Music Scoring Mixer)

  I Am Sam (Additional Recordings)

  Pearl Harbor (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Rat Race (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Riding In Cars With Boys (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Shrek (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Spy Game (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Spy Kids (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Black Hawk Down (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Wings Of A Film (Gent Show Compilation) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Untold Stories (Music Scoring Mixer)


 2000

  An Everlasting Piece (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Chicken Run (Additional Recordings)

  Grouchyfriendly (Album) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The In Crowd (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Road To El Dorado (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Mission - Impossible 2 (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Gladiator (Score Recordist)


 1999

  End Of Days (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Forces Of Nature (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Light It Up (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Swing Vote (TV) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Millenium Celebration (Music Scoring Mixer)


 1998

  Antz (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Armageddon (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Endurance (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Replacement Killers (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Last Days (Documentary) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Thin Red Line (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Prince Of Egypt (Music Scoring Mixer)

  With Friends Like These... (Music Scoring Mixer)


 1997

  As Good As It Gets (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Romy And Michele's High School Reunion (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Borrowers (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Sixth Man (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Face/Off (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Peacemaker (Music Scoring Mixer)


 1996

  The Fan (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Great White Hype (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Preacher's Wife (Music Scoring Mixer)

  The Rock (Music Scoring Mixer)


 1995

  Man Of The House (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Nine Months (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Crimson Tide (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Fair Game (I) (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Assassins (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Something To Talk About (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Bad Boys (Music Scoring Mixer)


 1994

  A Low Down Dirty Shame (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Drop Zone (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Renaissance Man (Music Scoring Mixer)

  Speed (Music Scoring Mixer)


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