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@Edmund <br>I still stand by my opinion that Holkenborg scoring Avatar 2 could be pretty interesting. Pairing him up with a director who is known to be strict with his musical choices and continuing on from James Hornerís classic might produce something really good. And seeing his gradual progress as a composer with Mortal Engines and Alita have personally given me some hope (2 years ago I would have said hell no).<br><br>And Iím not surprised by the choice for T6. Not looking forward to this project at all but we did get a cool score from Balfe for the last one so maybe there is some hope for the music at least.I think Terminator is a decent match for JXL's talents (listen to "The March" from Divergent), but this feels like further evidence that James Cameron is grooming him for Avatar 2, which I really hope ends up not being the case.Yes, Tom will be scoring the new Terminator movieChill out Bayhem, if you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap.<br>But seeing people from his team ivolved and considering the fast and furious situation, I canít help but wondering if thereís some truth to that rumor.<br>Now for a guy talking about haters, saying that Lorne scores 36million projects and B movies (forgetting mission impossible) I think youíre pushing it a bit.<br>Anyway no hate I donít care who wrote it Iím just curious about the behind the scenes stuff.You're reaching there a bit Bayhem, I see no one in this thread trying to undermine Steve's work or the score. Hell the first poster was just asking if Lorne worked on it and if so, to what extent. And the "rumor comment" is a logical extension of Lorne's whole regular team being credited on the score, therefore it is possible that he did additional work on it.
Again a "rumor" comment that's trying to undermine Steve's work. And in this case, an entire score. Lorne fans, please stop trying to constantly undermine other composers in favor of your guy. It's childish and extremely disrespectful. You've done it multiple times on these boards. What's next? You gonna claim that Lorne secretly scored the entire Transformers franchise? And Lord of the Rings. And Harry Potter. <br><br>Seriously, it's getting really old, really fast. <br><br>Not to mention the fact that Steve, as a composer, is much, much more experienced and established than Lorne. He's got nothing to prove. Steve takes his time when it comes to scoring. He's choosing carefully. He's got more than enough time to focus on his projects. While Lorne's name is attached to 30 million different projects, some of them cheap B-movies like Hurricane Heist. And you think he's scoring them all by himself? The irony of it all is that if anyone is using ghostwriters most of the time, it's Lorne. Not Steve. And I'm saying that as a Lorne fan as well. I'm not just a Jablonsky fan. I appreciate Lorne's work as well. But I'm not undermining other composers in favor of him.Bay has Lorne scoring his films now cause they established a relationship on 13 Hours, and Bay didn't even want Lorne for that; he wanted Hans but he didn't want to go through the exhausting process of another Bay blockbuster so he brought in Lorne instead.<br>And even then, Hans still worked together with Lorne very closely on the project (Hybrid said he was there for all the meetings, helped with synth programming, etc)Of cause Balfe worked on it .That is why Bay now uses Balfeyou can absolutely hear the 13 hours temp track in Battlefield and We Have to GoNot to mention that Steve and Lorne structure their power anthems differently.<br>To me this score sounds like 100% Steve
I wouldn't say so, Lorne stacks his ostinatos and rhythms on top of each other (see Blackwood, Last Man on the Moon) and shotguns piano writing all over his scores in addition to using it for almost any kind of emotional scene (see Manny, Duck Shoot, Brothers Theme from Hurricane Heist)Well, if all we're using to distinguish Lorne is ostinatos and piano writing, then in that case, he's all over this film!The interesting thing is, that if Lorne did work on it, his work is indistinguishable from Steve's cause I hear none of his ostinatos or extensive piano writing.@Hybrid, a while ago I saw a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap.<br>But looking at the credits I see some people from his team have been involved( his assistant Queenie Li as music coordinator, and Max Aruj and Steffen Thum did arrangements..)<br>Do you know why and to which extent he was involved or why his team worked on the score?This little gem of a score is one of my favourites of Lorne's smaller projects.<br>Got a great main theme and varying instrumentations of it throughout, plus he's using a real orchestra which is always good. (Check out The Heist, very upbeat jazzy piece)
Balfe - for anything than bad TV? How much did you smoke tonight? The Mission score must have been a studio decision but Balfe should not be allowed anywhere near a (any) franchise - the dude is a headcase and a total copycat. Tell me one piece that Balfe did that is original?Balfe - for anything than bad TV? How much did you smoke tonight? The Mission score must have been a studio decision but Balfe should not be allowed anywhere near a (any) franchise - the dude is a headcase and a total copycat. Tell me one piece that Balfe did that is original?Looking forward to what Ben's going to do with that movie.Hellboy coming by Sony Classical at 4/5/19Kung Fu Fighting (Celebration Time) on KFP3 also has a HZ credit despite again the booklet not crediting him for anything on it.
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 2018

  The World Of Hans Zimmer - A Symphonic Celebration (Shows) (Orchestrator)

  Christopher Robin (Orchestrator)


 2017

  Pirates Of The Caribbean - Dead Men Tell No Tales (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Transformers - The Last Knight (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Dunkirk (Supervising Orchestrator)


 2016

  Batman V Superman - Dawn Of Justice (Supervising Orchestrator)


 2014

  G I R L (Album) (Orchestrator)

  300 - Rise Of An Empire (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Transformers - Age Of Extinction (Supervising Orchestrator)

  The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (Orchestrator)

  Interstellar (Supervising Orchestrator)


 2013

  Gangster Squad (Orchestrator)

  Assassin's Creed III - The Tyranny Of King Washington (VG) (Orchestrator)

  Man Of Steel (Supervising Orchestrator)

  The Lone Ranger (Supervising Orchestrator)


 2012

  The Odd Life Of Timothy Green (Orchestrator)

  Battleship (Orchestrator)

  The 84th Academy Awards (TV Show) (Orchestrator)

  Savages (Orchestrator)

  Assassin's Creed III (VG) (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Madagascar 3 - Europe's Most Wanted (Supervising Orchestrator)

  The Dark Knight Rises (Supervising Orchestrator)


 2011

  Ironclad (Supervising Orchestrator)

  The Smurfs (Orchestrator)

  Transformers - Dark Of The Moon (Orchestrator)

  You May Not Kiss The Bride (Orchestrator)

  Rango (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Pirates Of The Caribbean - On Stranger Tides (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Sherlock Holmes - A Game Of Shadows (Supervising Orchestrator)


 2010

  The Pacific (TV Series) (Orchestrator)

  How Do You Know (Orchestrator)

  Prince Of Persia - The Sands Of Time (Song Arranger)

  Inception (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Megamind (Supervising Orchestrator)


 2009

  It's Complicated (Orchestrator)

  Transformers - Revenge Of The Fallen (Orchestrator)

  Angels & Demons (Orchestrator)

  Sherlock Holmes (Orchestrator)


 2008

  Body Of Lies (Orchestrator)

  Babylon A.D. (Orchestrator)

  The Dark Knight (Orchestrator)

  Vantage Point (Orchestrator)


 2007

  Disturbia (Orchestrator)

  I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry (Orchestrator)

  Illegal Tender (Conductor)

  The Simpsons Movie (Supervising Orchestrator)

  American Gangster (Orchestrator)

  Transformers (Orchestrator)

  Pirates Of The Caribbean - At World's End (Supervising Orchestrator)


 2006

  A Good Year (Orchestrator)

  Ice Age - The Meltdown (Orchestrator)

  The Da Vinci Code (Orchestrator)

  The Good Shepherd (Composer)

  Deja Vu (Orchestrator)

  Pirates Of The Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest (Additional Music)

  X-Men - The Last Stand (Orchestrator)


 2005

  Charlie And The Chocolate Factory (Orchestrator)

  Doom (Orchestrator)

  Fun With Dick And Jane (Orchestrator)

  Get Rich Or Die Tryin' (Orchestrator)

  House Of D (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Batman Begins (Orchestrator)

  Robots (Orchestrator)

  The 40 Year Old Virgin (Orchestrator)

  Mr. & Mrs. Smith (Orchestrator)

  The Amityville Horror (Orchestrator)

  The Island (Orchestrator)

  Madagascar (Orchestrator)

  The Chronicles Of Narnia - The Lion, The Witch & the Wardrobe (Orchestrator)

  The Ring Two (Orchestrator)

  Into The West (TV Series) (Orchestrator)


 2004

  Admissions (Orchestrator)

  Along Came Polly (Orchestrator)

  Collateral (Orchestrator)

  Dawn Of The Dead (Orchestrator)

  Ella Enchanted (Orchestrator)

  EuroTrip (Orchestrator)

  Lauras Stern (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Rage Against the Darkness (TV) (Composer)

  Ride The Night Beast (Musician)

  Secret Window (Orchestrator)

  Shark Tale (Orchestrator)

  Shrek 2 (Orchestrator)

  Steamboy (Orchestrator)

  Team America - World Police (Orchestrator)

  Temptation (Musician)

  The Bourne Supremacy (Orchestrator)

  Thunderbirds (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Catwoman (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Spanglish (Supervising Orchestrator)

  King Arthur (Orchestrator)


 2003

  Gigli (Orchestrator)

  Head of State (Orchestrator)

  Hulk (Additional Orchestrator)

  Matchstick Men (Orchestrator)

  Ned Kelly (Orchestrator)

  Passionada (Orchestrator)

  Shrek-4-D (Orchestrator)

  Something's Gotta Give (Orchestrator)

  Tears Of The Sun (Additional Music)

  The Italian Job (Orchestrator)

  The Last Samurai (Orchestrator)

  The Recruit (Orchestrator)

  The Rundown (Orchestrator)

  Veronica Guerin (Orchestrator)

  Pirates Of The Caribbean - The Curse Of The Black Pearl (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Sinbad - Legend Of The Seven Seas (Orchestrator)

  Paycheck (Orchestrator)

  Agent Cody Banks (Orchestrator)


 2002

  Beluga Speaking Across Time (Composer)

  Blade II (Orchestrator)

  Chicago (Orchestrator)

  D-Tox (Orchestrator)

  Drumline (Orchestrator)

  Men in Black 2 (Orchestrator)

  Red Dragon (Orchestrator)

  Solaris (Orchestrator)

  Spirit - Stallion Of The Cimarron (Orchestrator)

  The Bourne Identity (Orchestrator)

  The Country Bears (Arranger)

  The Pennsylvania Miners' Story (TV) (Orchestrator)

  The Ring (Orchestrator)

  The Time Machine (Orchestrator)

  The Adventures Of Pluto Nash (Orchestrator)


 2001

  Exit Wounds (Orchestrator)

  Hannibal (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Invincible (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Pearl Harbor (Supervising Orchestrator)

  Spy Game (Orchestrator)

  Spy Kids (Orchestrator)

  The Wings Of A Film (Gent Show Compilation) (Musician)

  I Am Sam (Orchestrator)

  Black Hawk Down (Orchestrator)

  Shrek (Orchestrator)

  Evolution (Orchestrator)


 2000

  Chicken Run (Orchestrator)

  The Adventures Of Rocky & Bullwinkle (Orchestrator)

  The Magic Of Marciano (Orchestrator)

  The Road To El Dorado (Orchestrator)

  The Tigger Movie (Orchestrator)

  Mission - Impossible 2 (Orchestrator)

  Gladiator (Orchestrator)


 1999

  Drop Dead Gorgeous (Orchestrator)

  Forces Of Nature (Orchestrator)

  Music of the Heart (Orchestrator)

  Sex : The Annabel Chong Story (Composer)

  Swing Vote (TV) (Orchestrator)


 1998

  Almost Heroes (Music Supervisor)

  Antz (Orchestrator)

  Hairshirt (Orchestrator)

  The Lion King 2 - Simba's Pride (V) (Orchestrator)

  The Man In The Iron Mask (Orchestrator)

  The Rugrats Movie (Orchestrator)

  Armageddon (Orchestrator)

  Endurance (Orchestrator)

  The Thin Red Line (Orchestrator)

  Enemy Of The State (Orchestrator)

  The Prince Of Egypt (Orchestrator)

  With Friends Like These... (Orchestrator)


 1997

  Con Air (Orchestrator)

  Dante's Peak (Orchestrator)

  Home Alone 3 (Orchestrator)

  Smilla's Sense Of Snow (Orchestrator)

  The Borrowers (Orchestrator)

  Washington Square (Arranger)

  The Peacemaker (Orchestrator)

  As Good As It Gets (Additional Music)

  Face/Off (Orchestrator)


 1996

  All Dogs Go To Heaven 2 (Arranger)

  Broken Arrow (Conductor)

  First Degree (V) (Composer)

  Muppet Treasure Island (Orchestrator)

  The Fan (Orchestrator)

  The Preacher's Wife (Additional Music)

  Two If By Sea (Orchestrator)

  The Rock (Conductor)

  Twister (Orchestrator)


 1995

  Bad Boys (Orchestrator)

  Man Of The House (Orchestrator)

  Something To Talk About (Orchestrator)

  Crimson Tide (Orchestrator)

  Nine Months (Orchestrator)

  Money Train (Orchestrator)


 1994

  Chicago Hope (TV Series 1994-1998) (Arranger)

  City Slickers II : The Legend Of Curly's Gold (Orchestrator)

  I'll Do Anything (Orchestrator)

  Renaissance Man (Additional Music)

  Speed (Orchestrator)

  The Flintstones (Additional Orchestrator)

  The Lion King (Additional Arrangements)


 1993

  True Romance (Orchestrator)

  Cool Runnings (Orchestrator)

  The Program (Additional Music)


 1992

  Batman Returns (Arranger)

  Memoirs Of An Invisible Man (Orchestrator)

  Radio Flyer (Additional Orchestrator)

  The Power Of One (Orchestrator)

  Toys (Additional Music)

  A League Of Their Own (Additional Arrangements)


 1991

  Backdraft (Additional Orchestrator)

  Defending Your Life (Orchestrator)

  Regarding Henry (Orchestrator)


 1990

  Child's Play 2 (Orchestrator)

  Days Of Thunder (Additional Orchestrator)

  Misery (Orchestrator)

  Psycho IV : The Beginning (TV) (Additional Music)

  Uncut Gem (TV) (Composer)

  Bird On A Wire (Additional Orchestrator)

  Pacific Heights (Additional Orchestrator)


 1989

  Kill Me Again (Orchestrator)


 1988

  Betrayal Of Silence (TV) (Composer)

  Lonely Knights (TV) (Composer)

  Rescue Me (TV) (Composer)


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  Mediaventures Sampler vol 9 (Orchestrator)


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