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Hallo,<br><br>Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht šlter geworden. Genial.<br><br>GruŖ  <br><br>Not bad score.<br><br>But I prefer the other oneIsnít that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?<br><br>For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80ís beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.
Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.
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  2012, July 17



Hans ZIMMER first interview about MAN OF STEEL




Empireonline had a talk with the composer about the next Zack SNYDER movie.

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d.j reply Replies: 7 || 2013-03-15 18:20:01
does anyone no anything bout wat is happing with the score and will the score be in the next trailer


Mike2013-03-15 20:25:46
We'll probably hear ELEMENTS of the score (kinda like for the 3rd and 4th Dark Knight Rises trailers).


Man Of Steel2013-03-17 23:11:38
Got a chance to listen to a little of the score. And it's awesome! Very, VERY different than anything Williams ever did. But still amazing. King Arthur drum cadences against alot of brass bends and electric guitars...yes i did just say electric guitars in a superman score.


d.j2013-03-17 23:18:17
may i ask how did you get two listen to it and where did you get to??


Mike2013-03-18 00:31:47
I would say, d.j., that Man of Steel doesn't know what he's talking about. :)


Man of Steel2013-03-18 20:32:38
I would say i do know what im talking about. Unfortunately i cannot say how Ive heard it cuz i don't want anyone to lose their jobs. D.J simply asked and i told him. You can believe it or not. But when you finally hear it, you'll see my description wasn't wrong.


d.j2013-03-18 20:54:20
man OF steel it's cool just keep us updateed bout what you no bout the score and i have one more ? do you no if they will put wat you heard in the new trailer and do you no when the trailer will come out


Man Of Steel2013-03-19 05:43:39
New trailer is in April. I dont know about the trailer having score from the film.

man of steel reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-18 04:20:58
Got a chance to listen to a little of the score. And it's awesome! Very, VERY different than anything Williams ever did. But still amazing. King Arthur drum cadences against alot of brass bends and electric guitars...yes i did just say electric guitars in a superman score.

MGDrone reply Replies: 6 || 2013-01-05 20:54:05
You make a good point Mike, and it's exactly what I was going to say. The theme is there, whether you like it or not. If it's not the kind of theme you wanted is another matter...

Btw, Tom Holkenberg (Junkie XL) tweeted that the score is finished. This does give Hans plenty of time to do Lone Ranger after all. I guess this means we should defiinitely hear the theme in the next trailer for sure.


Hybrid Soldier2013-01-05 21:12:06
Yeah Man of Steel is already "past tense"... :)


Lorne told me they really are working together with Hans on that Bible TV series. And from what he said, he didn't work with HZ at all on Man Of Steel or any other HZ project. I guess that's the first time a big HZ score has no Lorne in 8 years... :O

Lorne has way too many things to carry on !

Oh and Geoff Zanelli has done a little work on Man of Steel. :)


Mike2013-01-05 21:33:46
Have you heard any of MOS Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2013-01-05 22:36:20
Nope and just for once I'll try not to hear any SAMPLE before I see the film... :)


MGDrone2013-01-06 01:26:30
So, on Additional Music for MOS we can expect to hear something from Zanelli and Junki XL? Do you know who else is on the project?

I'm excited to hear what they're cooking up for the Bible series. Do my ears deceive me, or is that Lisa Gerrard I hear? (I'm referring to the Youtube video.)


Mike2013-01-06 03:36:13
To that, Hybrid, I say: good luck. :P


Hybrid Soldier2013-01-06 09:05:23
It is Lisa Gerrard... :)

All the music from the trailer is from the show. There's also that big 5 min "Nativity" clip on youtube, with score too (and Lisa)... :)

Mike reply Replies: 9 || 2012-10-23 09:30:59
Something just occurred to me. Perhaps for the Man of Steel score it would be best not to expect a "main theme", instead awaiting multiple "sub-themes". Because in Batman, there's not one theme, strictly speaking, but several.

Either way, I'm excited for what this score might bring, especially considering that Zimmer won't be going for the bass-heavy, percussive Dark Knight approach.


Mike2012-10-23 09:38:10
Errr, excuse the thing about bass heaviness. He never specifically said that.


MGDrone2012-10-23 18:30:48
I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense. What people should keep in mind is that this Superman is going to be incredibly different from Donner and Reeves' Superman. There's no reason we should expect a theme similar to John Williams' theme. On the same level, yes, but not similar. There's also no reason Hans should try to score this like anyone but himself.

I really can't say what I want the score to sound like since I didn't really get the feel of the movie from the teaser. All I can hope for is that Snyder will give Zimmer free reins and let him score the movie like he knows it should be scored.


Mike2012-10-23 23:19:07
Although I gotta say I wouldn't mind hearing something along the lines of Williams' Krypton theme. They was great stuff!


Bondo2012-10-24 03:34:00
You're not gonna hear anything that sounds like John Williams


Mike2012-10-24 04:27:53
Oh, I know. Just saying.


tomPoland2013-01-04 13:52:31
Superman theme is a must be. Powerfull, beautiful, memorable.
And without ostinatos that RCP people over-use.

"No theme" in Batman had some sense, but this is SUPERMAN, American icon.


Hybrid Soldier2013-01-04 14:00:29
What "no theme" in Batman ?

You def ?


I can find PLENTY of themes in Batman.


tomPoland2013-01-04 15:28:54
No Batman theme, lots of minor themes but no direct melody to describe dark knight. There are those two notes, but it's hardly to call it a theme, don't you think?


Mike2013-01-04 20:12:33
Well, Hans considered the two notes to be a theme. Is there a definition of theme you're going by, where these two notes truly don't make the cut?

Le Lombardi from Brazil reply Replies: 5 || 2012-08-14 05:28:44
I can believe that you will not use for just a seconds the theme create by master John Williams. My dear Hans Zimmer it is for just a seconds, the power of this theme is UNIVERSAL and imortal. You know...some themes we will never forget, and stay for the hero, not for the film. ROCKY, STAR WARS, ET, RAMBO, STAR TREK TV, STAR TREK MOVIE, INDIANA JONES, HARRY POTTER, JAWS, TERMINATOR, IMPOSSIBLE MISSION, PLEEEASE MR. ZIMMER use your feelings.

IT IS FOR JUST A FEW SECONDS, THEME FOR SUPERMAN BY JOHN WILLIAMS, JUST FOR A FEW SECONDS, PLEASE.



NTNBaessi2013-01-03 03:55:25
Come on, a score is not a jingle for the character. The theme composed by J. Williams probably will not fit the tone of this new movie. Just get over it and embrace the new...


NTNBaessi2013-01-03 04:01:36
Just watched some videos on Youtube that mix The Dark Knight with the Danny Elfman old score for Batman/Batman Returns. It seems incredibly awkward, does not fitting the movie at all. This is just what could happen if they try to use J. Williams theme in Man of Steel. New franchise, new theme. PLEASE!


Areozz2013-01-03 04:54:44
Hans Zimmer on "The Dark Knight" + Danny Elfman on "Batman"/"Batman Returns" = Hans Zimmer on "Man of Steel"? How the heck does that make any sense? And do you really think that by complaining on an almost official page for RCP will get Hans Zimmer's attention and that he will choose to rework his whole score based solely on some mash-up videos that you saw on YouTube?

fools


Mike2013-01-03 05:06:52
Plus, I believe the score is written already. Wasn't there talk recently of how it was being recorded?


NTNBaessi2013-01-03 05:08:41
Did you actually read what I just wrote? Were did a mention that he should rework his score? I am saying that people should be open to the new sound that he possibly will bring to Man of Steel and not be stuck thinking on Williams score. Le Lombardi from Brazil says that Zimmer should use the classic Superman theme on MOS, which is movie totally different in tone, making the old theme unfitting. And if you use your brain you can clearly make a relation between this situation and what happened with the Batman movies...

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-26 14:39:17
The new Man of Steel trailer will premiere in front of The Hobbit on december 14th. Do you think it'll feature brand new music by Zimmer?

Remember the wonderful trailer #3 for The Dark Knight Rises a year ago... :)

B.O DE THE DARK KNIGHT RISES reply Replies: 0 || 2012-07-21 10:13:03
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