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Wait!<br>So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?<br>I thought it had been completed?Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isnít going to get replaced last minute!!!!!Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.
Alright, after re-listening to the score, I've made a few educated guesses of what the additional composers did, based on what we know about the score and their previous work. Note that none of this is confirmed by Hybrid, just my opinion.<br><br>Lorne Balfe: Seems to practically be a co-composer here. I hear a lot of him in this score. It seems he did Invasion (as he's known for contributing trailer music to films he works on) seemingly the suites "Brooding", "Deciphering the Signal", "Battle", and the one we know he cowrote, "Journey Suite". Based on this here's my guess as to what he contributed. <br><br>Soccent Attack - Sounds like his style, probably him arranging AllSpark and Decepticon material. <br><br>Keller's Briefing - Arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal"<br><br>Deciphering the Signal - Obviously another arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal" with Batman Begins-like action at the end.<br><br>Sam's Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) - Sounds like an arrangement of "Brooding" material. <br><br>(Possibly?) Are You LadiesMan217? - Some arrangement of "Brooding" and "Journey Suite" material, although hard to say whether the theme at 1:10 is Steve's or Lorne's. Could be Steve arranging Lorne material, as it sounds more Jablonsky-esque to me. <br><br>Autobots to the Rescue - Could be Steve imitating Batman Begins style, but sounds far too Lorne for me to not consider it a co-written track. <br><br>Sector 7 Chase - Part 1 sounds more Jablonsky than Lorne, but there's no question to me that part 2 has a lot of Balfe in there. <br><br>Where Is My Car? - Batman Begins-like again, probably Lorne solo, or Lorne and Steve<br><br>Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) - Arrangement of "Brooding"<br><br>Freeway Fight - Battle version of Decepticon theme from "Brooding"<br><br>Stumble Bumble (Part 1) & (Part 2 Alternate) - Arrangement of "Journey Suite", second part not used in the film sounds like Steve & Lorne Combo to me. Film version of part 2 sounds pure Steve to me. <br><br>You're A Soldier Now (Parts 1 & 3) - Lorne being heavily involved in the final battle is known, and Parts 1 and 3 have arrangements of Lorne material. I'm also fairly certain that Lorne wrote the Optimus vs Megatron theme from Part 3 and "Optimus vs Megatron".<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - Finale of theme introduced in "You're A Soldier Now (Part 3)" as well as the "Journey / AllSpark" theme which could be Lorne's or Steve's. <br><br>Trevor Morris: I can infer from his work on Pirates 2, The Island, and the one track we know he worked on. <br><br>Soldiers Arrive - Not sure why, but I've always assumed this military theme was Morris'.<br><br>Arctic 1897 - Dark theme that reminds me a lot of his work from Pirates 2. <br><br>Scorponok - Known fact that he co-wrote this. <br><br>Hoover Dam - Arrangement of military theme<br><br>Transforming -  Same theme from Arctic 1897<br><br>Sam on the Roof (Part 2) - Arrangement of theme from Scorponok, though could be Steve or Lorne arranging it.<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - A slight hint to the Military theme when they begin attacking Blackout, and Scorponok theme reprisal, once again could be Steve or Lorne arranging these themes. <br><br>Creeper Suite / A Call to Arms (Unused) - Original music for Optimus' Epilogue, contains arrangement of military theme. <br><br>Jay Flood: Can be inferred from his work on Transformers: The Game, his overall more orchestral writing, and his contributions to Nightmare on Elm Street, Sims 3, and Desperate Housewives. <br><br>Camaro on the Run - Definitely has a TF: The Game sound to it overall. As well as a bit of Thomas Newman-esque music. <br><br>Witwicky (Parts 1-3) - Definitely some of his style here along with Steve's overall Desperate Housewives-esque music. <br><br>Decepticons 2 Suite / Frenzy - The suspenseful strings make me think of Flood's Nightmare on Elm Street work, and the brass writing seems more characteristic of him than Jablonsky to me, though it was still probably a co-written suite. <br><br>Tense Action Suite - Once again reminds me of Flood's Nightmare suspenseful string writing, probably at least co-composed with Jablonsky. <br><br>Clay Duncan - I can guess somewhat based on his contributions to "The Island" but otherwise I don't know much about him so I'm not sure about any of the inferences I'm about the make. <br><br>Angry Camaro - This sort of drone music sounds like it could be him as his contributions were very electronic in The Island.<br><br>Bumblebee vs Barricade - Strange electronics and sounds plus more minimalist writing make me think Duncan. <br><br>Tow Truck Charge - Definitely has The Island's sound. Could be Trevor Morris too. <br><br>TJ Lindgreen: I know so little about his style except he works with Elfman and did additional music for TF: The Game so not much I can say for what he did. <br><br>Belly Shot(?) - The ethereal choir style sounds somewhat like TF: The Game's score and Elfman's choir. <br><br>Not to Hear That(?) - Maybe he composed this motif for Mikaela that also appeared in "Belly Shot". <br><br>Surreal Mikaela(?) - Once again I'm hoping the specific choir sound is part of his style. <br><br>Anything I didn't mention is a track I'm assuming is all Jablonsky. Please note that I'm not trying to take away from Steve's work on this score, and that for most of these track I'm assuming Steve had some involvement in as well, I'm just speculating for fun because I've always wanted to know who did what on this score.LP sadly, but it's also on Spotify.Technical reasons ! lol ;)<br><br>But she was there.Most welcome news. Should be a nice replacement for the Fantastic Beasts score that will have to have been pushed off. I imagine his work on Jungle Cruise will be great as well. 2021 is looking pretty exciting for score releases!She definitely performed on the score, I don't know why she is uncredited...
The poster shows Lorne Balfe as the composer.<br><br>But then it also did have Desplat!So no solo cello by Tina Guo? Is it digital then or is it no cello?CD or LP release?Why is Lorne Balfe not nominated for a Grammy for Ad Astra ?To my understanding, James never worked for Hans or Remote Control. Theyíre simply friends and have collaborated on a few projects. Powell (and Gregson-Williams) used to work at Remote Control before moving on to his own studio/endeavors. <br><br>BUT, I am equally as excited for James to return to Disney Animation. Very excited for this and Jungle Cruise.
I guess James Newton Howard doesn't count as a Remote Control composer anymore (and yet John Powell does? I don't get it), but anyway, he's scoring Disney Animation Studios' Raya and the Last Dragon. After his epic trilogy of Dinosaur, Atlantis, and Treasure Planet, I welcome his return to the studio!Some original cue titles with slates from a music mixing CD-R:<br>1M13 Transactions<br><br>2M16 Jake Gets Stoned<br>2M20A Alley<br>2M21 Rapists Castration<br><br>3M24 My Old Division<br>3M27 Go Fetch Dog<br>3M30 The Freeway<br>3M32 Alonzo Steals Money<br>3M33 Into The Jungle<br><br>4M41 Safety Is First / Busting Into Rogers<br><br>5M46 Helicopter<br>5M48 Sunset / Wet Streets<br>5M51 Jake Gets Beaten<br>5M52 Smiley Calls His Cousin<br><br>6M57 On The Roof<br>6M58 Jake Lands On Car<br><br>7M61 Alonzo Dies<br>7M63 Sun ShotMovie credits:<br><br>Music by Hans Zimmer & David Fleming<br><br>Music Supervisor: Joe Rudge<br><br>Score Produced by Hans Zimmer<br>Supervising Music Editor: Ryan Rubin<br>Music Editor: Nate Underkuffler<br>Music Production Services: Steven Kofsky<br>Additional Music by Ben Powell<br>Featured Guitar Soloist: Derek Trucks<br>Score Mixed by Seth Waldmann<br>Score Mix Assistant: Aldo Arechar<br>Technical Score Engineer: Chuck Choi<br>Technical Assistants: James Grimwade, Aldo Arechar, Steven Doar & Fabio Marks<br>Synth Programming: Hans Zimmer<br>Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry<br>Digital Instrument Preparation: Taurees Habib, Raul Vega, David Naroth & Paul Salerno<br>Studio Manager for Remote Control Productions: Shalini Singh<br>Assistant to Hans Zimmer: Cynthia Park<br>Score Mixed at Remote Control Productions, Santa Monica CA<br>Music Clearances: Jessica Dolingerthats trueCan't think of a more meaningless and laughable award than the Oscar.
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Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-03 14:53:15
Congratulations to mr. Zimmer for his Order of Merit medal!

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2018-09-26 09:15:36
Sorry, I don't buy that story about his return to the genre. His words are stuff you say in front of a camera to look good and avoid complications. Everyone dreams of working on (and watching/enjoying) a project with good story, cast, and everything. It is just that these things are monumentally rare to happen these days. And when they do happen they usually come from small teams who cannot afford the likes of Hans Zimmer in the first place. Whatever is behind his return, I am sure it is not story or director. it's largely about expanding influence, and a good dose of financial incentives.

On a different note, I recall the WW motif was being attributed to Tina Guo in the past, but now Hans Zimmer is claiming it for himself. It does not matter who made it happen but I am curious, what was going about with Guo and this motif in the past, was it an attempt to overstate her contribution in order to get her recognized and hired - i.e. the things HZ usually does for friends at the beginning of their solo film composer careers?


Knight2018-09-26 12:07:50
All Tina Guo did in relation to the WW theme is performed it. Hans was the one that created and wrote it.


Mephariel2018-09-26 18:29:28
I am not sure why it is so hard to believe that story or director matters. They matter to virtually every top name composers because having good story and directors will increase reputation and legacy. Composers have repeatedly turn down projects in a franchise when their collaborating directors did not return. It is not just a Hans Zimmer thing.

Also, Zimmer has done plenty of small films like Freeheld for example. He is clearly looking for legacy and I agree about expanding influence. But I am not sure how much financial incentives matter at this point. His net worth is like close to $100 million.

As for Wonder Woman, I think Zimmer always say they worked together on the theme. I don't think he ever said Tina Guo composed the entire thing.


Ds2018-09-26 19:07:57
He composed it, she played it. But performers can leave their mark on the music, and I'm sure Guo put a lot of her personality in her performance. So this theme as we know it could be attributed to both. That's why Zimmer said he "couldn't get it right" until he brought Tina in. But on paper it's still a HZ track.


Anonymous2018-09-27 09:51:46
@Mephariel

What I meant to in the early paragraph was that every composer wishes to work on a project with good story. But good scripts and stories are rare these days.

Like I was trying to say, when good stories do happen, they occasionally appear in films and projects helmed by a crew of lesser-known or unknown talents. (comes naturally really as they don't have nervous producers to appease.) But then again those running these projects of that scope know they cannot get someone like Hans Zimmer on board so that never happens. Cases like Freeheld are too rare to be considered a norm.

Regarding financial incentives, I am sure it is present there in full force. He doesn't need it of course, and he is not taking several projects every year. But he sure doesn't look like he is taking anything that does not have a healthy paycheck guaranteed. I do not believe making music for FIFA, national geographic, volvo, netflix and alike can be considered small and humble.

Zack Snyder reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-24 15:07:40
He wants to compose for movie with good story.. retirement from superhero genre is just to chase Away justice league executives.. by the way how is HZ and JXL still buddies?

Poor Zack snyder reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-24 15:04:43
I think he just wanna compose movie with good story.. now we know why he said he is retiring from superhero genre

fanuelalex reply Replies: 1 || 2018-09-22 08:19:28
so glad to see HZ back to the superhero genre


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-23 12:58:47
yeah I feel like it's been days, weeks even since the last one

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-21 17:45:44
so great to watch this new interview. it confirmed how i felt about wonder woman and widows. it is the right thing to do.

Hans's comment on losing his voice took me by surprise though. dunkirk touched on a few techniques i wanted to see explored more. i know other composers did it before. but i think dunkirk did a better job at putting those elements together... hopefully there is be a similar movie in the near future : )

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Antos7 reply Replies: 5 || 2018-09-20 23:08:52
Balfe is doing Michael Bays next movie !!! Whatís happened with Jablonsky?


Scorefan2018-09-21 02:33:25
Maybe, Bay thinks Balfe is better than Jablonsky in terms of military tones and music.


Mike2018-09-21 02:59:20
Huh. I like Jablosnky, but I really liked the 13 Hours score, so it's hard for me to complain.


ThePhantasm2018-09-21 03:08:37
Steve is just trying to spend a little time with his family i think, he's not as busy as he used to be but i think it's cause he chooses that. Film Composing is an insanely time consuming job. I like Balfe a lot though.


MikeM2018-09-21 14:35:08
Balfe has constantly been brought in on Transformers movies , so great to see him working with Bay properly


Bayhem2018-09-21 15:24:39
Steve is clearly spending time with his family. He had a second child just a few months ago. I think he will eventually be back on the Bay Train.

And Lorne is the right choice for a "replacement". He's been involved in one way or another with the Bay movies for more than 10 years now. He's certainly not a surprising choice and I'm looking forward to the score. It's a movie that takes place all over the world, so I have big expectations for the music.

isildur reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-21 15:15:57
Hans says he worked so hard to get WW1 to Rupert, but didn't he also recommend that they try a female composer?

Josť DamiŠn reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-20 22:52:19
Review widows: It's also scored by Hans Zimmer, which means it is immediately in the running for best score of the year...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2018-09-18 20:45:25
Little HZ interview about a few things...


Dimitris Krommidas2018-09-18 20:58:51
Thanks.


Knight2018-09-19 12:31:50
Hybrid, all over the site there are no longer music extracts to listen to. For me at least, is it a universal thing?


Mike2018-09-19 17:04:02
@Knight, it's not just you.


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-19 19:54:22
Audio is down unfortunately.

Legal reasons... Nothing to do with Hans or any composer who have always been very supportive.

Maybe it'll return, maybe not...


Knight2018-09-19 20:30:08
Article 13?


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-19 20:37:28
Nope.


Even if it wouldn't have helped, I guess ! lol


Knight2018-09-19 20:40:43
Hope it gets fixed, I love listening to the suites you add to scores here.

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