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Barcelona, pleaseeee!!!Are there any Interviews were Hans talks about Last Samurai? Somehow I can't find any video or text interviews or anything... there must be something. Thanks!Sadly Last Samurai wasn't featured in World of Hans Zimmer Concert.Btw do we have info on Who will score Snyder's next movie? I dont see him going back down to Bates, and if it was HZ or JXL I think we would know it already...Yes please, do not forget Barcelona!
Hans is not used to making concerts in Catalunya :( We'll have to travel again, or just wait for new dates...Actually thinking about it, Bates was probably busy with GOTG to do anything for RofE.It was post MoS, so it was likely he picked him based on that (though it's also possible bringing back Bates might've been a risk post the debacle with the previous film).No concert in Barcelona ?And Snyder didn't bring Bates back due to the whole Plagiarism thing, or he just brought Tom as a last minute replacement?
Soundtrack album from season 5 is out... that came out of nowhere@Macejko Someone leaks with a torrent website, but, I can't put the information on Jusid's score on this website, I just let you know about it. @Hybrid Soldier is correct too.holy crap! Sounds like Spielberg taking over Tobe Hooper on PoltergeistOut in NZ<br><br>https:/ /music.apple.com/nz/album/jumanji-the-next-level-original -motion-picture-soundtrack/1 490342758Paul: Where did you find Jusidīs score?<br>Hybrid: Really? Where did you hear that?
Snyder got Junkie in. He was absolutely displeased with what Noam Murro was doing so he took over directing and basically did the movie uncredited. He asked Junkie for a quick rescore...Oh snap, I found out about replaced by Federico Jusid's rejected score from 300 rise of an empire is available, I think Junkie XL with is better fit for this soundtrack.just saw No Time to Die trailer and the music sounds so much like itīs Junkie, or somebody just stole his drum sample librariesSo... Marvel Studios just released the trailer for Black Widow. I heard some faint rumors out there that Henry Jackman has been tapped to score this one. Hybrid, any validity to these reports, or is it still to early to tell?  :)The Hero theme is so simplistic that it'd be hard to somewhat forget if you hear it enough times. I always assumed the MoS Launch temp track from the Anti-Hero theme was supposed to be the villain motif, but having not seen the film doesn't give me a sense on how its utilized.<br><br>I think the Flash motif is pretty good as a "running" theme of sorts. And the titular JL theme is fine, if not really strong enough to carry a whole score (though I do like it appearing once the team is presumably fully formed). I haven't any other themes, even though I'm told there's others.
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  2013, October 13  updated by Nicolas
Hans ZIMMER Talks Amazing Spider-Man 2 Characters & Score






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... reply Replies: 47 || 2013-10-18 14:55:24
I was wondering why people are so upset with Zimmer doing so many superheroes....

Brian Tyler has Iron man and Thor within this year...


Anonymous2013-10-18 15:14:00
I'd be fine with it if Zimmer did DC films. I'm disappointed he's doing a Marvel film also. =P


...2013-10-18 15:26:33
Ah I see...

anyway I don't particularly like tyler so that annoys me more than zimmer doing spider man.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-18 17:14:06
I'm not too thrilled about that either. His Iron Man 3 was a pretty good score (best of the series), but he seems like a really safe, predictable, boring choice for Thor. Wish they'd have kept Doyle.


...2013-10-18 17:30:30
Yes I totally agree with you!

Doyle's score was great and beautiful!


MacArthur2013-10-18 17:33:49
I don't care for Tyler's work it's to bland and just doesn't do anything for me.


Macejko2013-10-18 17:48:02
Tyler is capable writing a great theme, but he is unable to write a decent soundtrack as a whole. When I listen to his work, the main theme is usually the only good listening experience on the album. Applies to Iron Man 3, applies to Assassin's Creed IV, and pretty much to everything I have heard from him.
Patrick Doyle is, of course, the king. He is easily one of the best composers in the history, and certainly the most underrated and underused. His score for "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" should have won an Oscar. Even when the movie itself is crap (like Eragon, for example), Doyle is capable writing a phenomenal score for it. Replacing him with Tyler is a travesty, proving that Marvel executives are bunch of retarded assholes. Hell, even Carter Burwell, who was hired originaly, would absolutely crush it. But no, let's go with Tyler, because he accepts everything and won't talk back to us.
Marvel just wants obedient slaves in every aspect of the production. I bet that if they approached Ramin Djawadi (as he composed a brilliant score for Game of Thrones, which Alan Taylor directed several times), he would tell them to go f*ck themselves.


MacArthur2013-10-18 17:59:35
Patrick Doyle's Score for Thor was good I was Impressed. As for some of his other's not so much (I didn't care for his harry potter score (I think he only did 1 not sure not a Harry potter guy) anyway...I don't think that it's as much the Marvel executives as it is the Producers of the film and the Director.


...2013-10-18 18:21:07
I think that the Iron Man 3 theme is rather dull and in a way cheesy to listen to, but in the movie it works brilliantly...

Doyle is indeed a king, and I am curious about what he could have done if he had scored the second one, and I have heard that Doyle wanted to return to score the second one even though Kenneth Branagh didn't direct.


MacArthur2013-10-18 18:36:24
Off topic ever notice in the films The bad guys always use a C-130 cargo plane.


Macejko2013-10-18 18:46:35
I'm speechless. What the f*ck are you talking about, MacArthur? Why do you feel the need to stop a music-related debate with such a retarded question? Don't you wanna tell us what you had for breakfast this morning as well?


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-18 18:51:25
lol Macej you are still surprised ? You're talking about the ultimate facepalm of the year, hands down !


The weird thing is people keep reacting & answering him... -_-


...2013-10-18 19:12:19
Lol Hybrid indeed you're right...
These of topic comments should be left alone, but anyway I hope he won't kill the discussion...


MacArthur2013-10-19 01:14:59
I didn't Mean anything by it.


Jake 2013-10-19 01:23:02
I see your point Mac. With Bane in TDKR. And the Korean's in Olympus has fallen and I seem to Think that there was one more.


But TRY to stay on topic. Or at least until someone else changes it.


...2013-10-19 01:46:57
Mcarthur, I am sorry if I misunderstood you...:)


MacArthur2013-10-19 03:07:11
That's Ok ...


MacArthur2013-10-19 06:56:14
Hybrid I'm not an animal I'm a person once you accept that there are people with feelings on here like yourself, people will respect you.

I've tried very hard not to offend anyone and if I have I apologize.


Ds2013-10-29 11:23:21
About Brian Tyler... have you guys listened to Fast&Furious 5? I think it's a masterpiece, and not just the main themes! It's a score that John Powell could have written. In my opinion, Tyler would be the perfect composer for a James Bond movie, if David Arnold doesn't come back.

But his work on Iron Man 3 was very bland, yet one of Marvel's best scores. A cool main theme on repeat mode. It pisses me that Marvel studios are so powerful but don't give a shit about music. Could Henry Jackman change that?


Macejko2013-10-29 13:20:49
If someone WON'T change that, it's one-time wonder Henry Jackman.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-29 13:35:03
One-time wonder? Gulliver's Travels, X-Men: First Class, Puss in Boots, Wreck-it Ralph. That's four really good scores. I'm not saying he isn't hit-and-miss...he is...but he's had certainly more than just ONE hit. And that's not even going into what I still think is his best music, the additionals he did for At World's End. I mean...Up is Down and Marry Me for chrissake! The maelstrom wedding scene! He was responsible for some of the best music in one of the greatest scores in RCP history. Definitely not a one-time wonder.


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-29 13:36:38
I knew the pro RCPs, the anti RCPs, but with Macejko you have the pro Djawadi against the world !

Interesting concept ! :D


Macejko2013-10-29 14:48:59
I didn't know he was responsible for those two POTC track. Ok, maybe I was a little harsh, but for me, Jackman's misses outnumber hits.


Ds2013-10-29 14:53:05
Edmund you're right about Henry Jackman. RCP composers deliver either good or generic scores, but when they're working on a Zimmer project, suddenly they deliver masterpieces. Hans' influence is amazing.


MacArthur2013-10-29 16:20:55
Are you talking about the complete score of POTC3 or the Album. cause I always thought Up is down (At least on the Album) was Zimmer?


Mike2013-10-29 16:22:20
Up is Down is Zimmer and Jackman. It comes from the segment of the Marry Me suite that Jackman worked on.


MacArthur2013-10-29 16:24:45
Ok...Thanks Mike.

So is Marry me suite both Zimmer and Jackman (Don't have the Complete score so I don't know)


Mike2013-10-29 16:28:20
Yes. If I'm not mistaken, then Zimmer did the first several minutes with all the dramatic variations of the love theme. Then when it gets all fast-paced (a.k.a., the "Up Is Down" part), that's where Jackman is added to the mix. Then the part after that is a mix of the dramatic love theme done by Zimmer and the Up Is Down stuff done by Jackman.


Mike2013-10-29 16:32:13
I'm admittedly not sure whether the faster, Up Is Down stuff is both Zimmer and Jackman or just Jackman. I imagine it's both.


MacArthur2013-10-29 16:35:27
Ok...Awesome cause some of these guys were saying Jackman was responsible for the track. I was like UM....Hello. :)

BTY Love Jackman's Captain Phillips score. & can't wait for his Captain America score.


Mike2013-10-29 16:37:21
Jackman better retain the Captain America March to one degree or another. If he doesn't, I'll be disappointed.


MacArthur2013-10-29 16:53:45
Or come up with his own. that is similar to it.


Mike2013-10-29 17:26:54
Why not come up with his own new-but-similar theme, AND keep the old one for occasional and appropriate moments? The best sequel scores are those which retain old themes as necessary and bring new ones in, too. ;)


Ds2013-10-31 10:10:21
Yesterday i saw Thor 2. Brian Tyler's music was nicer than expected, but the tone was very, very similar to that of Iron Man 3. Something in Thor's new theme reminded me of Tyler's Iron Man theme. There are a few emotional cues, not bad but truly Zimmer-wannabe. Tyler didn't have a lot of time to compose it and you really can hear it. Still, it's like 100 times better than Avengers' score :p

(And the movie was imo Marvel at its worst: formulaic, predictable, uninventive, unmoving, insanely forgettable)


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-31 10:30:22
Did you mention the worst temp-track rip of the year (competing with Captain Phillips' "Time" rip) : Witwicky from Transformers at the beginning ?

It took me a minute to find out if it was the actual TF cue or a rewritten one ! lol


Ds2013-10-31 11:05:39
Yeah, noticed that too!! When you've got Shia Labeouf's face stuck in your head while watching Thor, you know there's something wrong :p


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-31 11:53:29
That's funny because Doyle's score from the first had a blatant "Einstein's Wrong" temp from Revenge of the Fallen in "Hammer Found". I guess we get one Transformers ripoff per Thor movie... :p


isildur2013-10-31 12:10:13
Listened to Thor yesterday and I thought wait isn't this very much similar Iron Man? Good to know that it wasn't just me.


Mike2013-10-31 14:25:16
Am I the only one who thought tracks like "Into Eternity" had a sort of Lord of the Ringish sound?


MacArthur2013-10-31 15:14:59
I mean...Really Zimmer has his style tyler needs to quit imitating him. Do something else for a change.

I mean I like Jablonsky cause he has somewhat brought his own style to the table with having a heroic approach. but seriously tyler stop imitating Zimmer


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-31 16:23:18
Seriously? Between the two of them Tyler has a MUCH more distinct voice than Jablonsky.


MacArthur2013-10-31 16:26:21
I'm saying Tyler is just a wanna-be Zimmer.

Hey Jablonsky was trained by Zimmer at least he's developing his own style


Jake 2013-10-31 16:42:21
Tyler does a little in terms of his stuff is kinda hard to listen too.

I'd much rather listen to Jablonsky and Zimmer.


Mike2013-10-31 16:42:37
Indeed, if you ask me, Jablonsky is much more of Zimmer wannabe than Tyler is...


MacArthur2013-10-31 17:50:08
Well he is trained by Zimmer. At least Jablonsky is developing his own style.

I just don't like tyler's stuff


Ds2013-10-31 19:15:28
MacArthur: it depends on the score. Brian Tyler's Fast Five and Now You See Me had NOTHING to do with Zimmer's style. Actually Tyler's style is very different from HZs, except on this Thor sequel, probably because it was a replacement score... and a heavily temped one.


MacArthur2013-10-31 19:22:37
Battle for LA was very much a copy of Zimmer's stuff And MW3 those two that I mentioned are ok

Just not a fan of tyler's far cry it's to bland.

and Zimmer's style is different in the Da Vinci code*

*one of my favorites


...2013-10-31 19:23:40
Now you see me is a fun score!

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-29 14:48:33
I didn't know he was responsible for those two POTC track. Ok, maybe I was a little harsh, but for me, Jackman's misses outnumber hits.

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-29 14:44:28
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Ds reply Replies: 39 || 2013-10-27 14:58:20
Just found on the internet that Pharell Williams joined Hans Zimmer to score The Amazing Spiderman 2. Prepared to get hyped guys...


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-27 15:01:04
What the actual... *facepalm*


Macejko2013-10-27 15:27:43
What the fuck?!


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-27 15:30:19
It's true. Is that surprising ? Nope...


Macejko2013-10-27 15:37:38
Maybe it's not surprising for you, Hybrid. But I don't even... Who the hell is that guy and why is he writing it with Zimmer? How did he earn this privilege? By writing a theme for Despicable Me 2? I mean, there were tons of soundtracks, where RCP guys should have been credited as main composers alongside Zimmer, and now some nobody comes in and he gets to be credited as the second composer? I will repeat myself, but: what the fuck?! If I were Lorne or Geoff, I would be losing my shit big time right now.


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-27 15:42:51
You are losing your shit big time right now... ;)

You don't even know his involvement to say that. And Pharrell has been around RCP for more than 3 years...

Doesn't mean I'm all for it, I anticipate HZ & Rupert Gregson-Williams' Winter's Tale a lot more.

But I'm curious how that can turn out for Spidey 2...


isildur2013-10-27 16:21:25
Never heard of him. Who is he?


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-27 16:25:35
Just type "Pharrell" "Get Lucky" "Daft Punk" on google... lol


MacArthur2013-10-27 16:25:39
I'm sure it will be great!

That is if Zimmer does the Majority.


Anonymous2013-10-27 18:30:16
This is very unexpected, but exciting news. Who in the world would complain about a Zimmer and Pharrell collaboration? Although a bit suspicious, I'm certain the synergies will be great. This news has provided a very limited distraction from my disappointment about 12 Years A Slave. I can't wait to see it this Friday, and can't be more frustrated about the highly limited release of Hans' score!

Hybrid: any possibilities for more to be released? Have you heard it?


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-27 18:59:03
Who in the world would complain? Um. I would. I would very very very much.

Film composer assignments lately seem really...for lack of a better word, irresponsible. I'm sorry, but in what universe do people look at Spider-Man and think "yep, that guy who wrote the song from Despicable Me...that's who we need to do the score." I'm sorry, but WHOSE BATSHIT IDEA WAS THIS?


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-27 19:07:41
If it pisses you of, Edmund, then it's good news for me, cause that's the only you can do around here...


And NO NO NO NO NO NO NO THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING MORE FOR 12 YEARS A SLAVE, live with it !


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-27 19:19:40
Uh...what is that supposed to mean?


0-cool2013-10-27 19:31:48
how will he contribute to this score? Will he write songs or what?
Or does he possess a certain skillset we know nothing about?


Mike2013-10-27 21:53:52
Edmund just pisses you off? He strikes me as one of the more level-headed individuals around here. *commence stupid argument*

Anyway, about the news, time will tell how this turns out.


Mike2013-10-27 21:58:57
And contra MacArthur, I personally would like to see them work on the score more equally (like Zimmer and Howard in Batman Begins--they each got about half the work between them, more or less). I'd prefer not to see one dominate the score (like happened in The Dark Knight). :)


MacArthur2013-10-27 23:51:39
Why Mike Zimmer is assigned to it It should be "HIS" score so he should do the Majority of it. No offense meant:)


Mike2013-10-28 00:03:01
On the other hand, MacArthur, Marc Webb did say early on there might be a collaborator, so it didn't start out as a Zimmer project where Pharrell Williams is now gonna steal the spotlight. We always figured it would be Hans and someone else, too. ;)


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-28 00:21:58
Mac, do you have a personal issue with Zimmer's amount of work on a score ?

It seems to be your only interest...


thejok3rrules2013-10-28 04:03:38
Let's get things straight: Pharell Williams' involvement will make the score suffer a lot... I might love Zimmer, but even that choice sounds wrong... So, Spidey will need to fly alone in the upcoming movie, because I don't think the score will help him.


MacArthur2013-10-28 05:51:18
No Not at all I just like to know that I'm Buying a majority Zimmer score and not something that says it's done by him and not.

Make sense :)


MacArthur2013-10-28 05:58:55
I think my thing is I'd like to know how much of this score is Zimmer is it going to be like CoDMW2 where Zimmer does the main theme or The Bible Where it's half and half or Like TDKR where it's Zimmer with balfe Arranging most of it.

You following me hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-28 07:52:37
Hans commented on the news now known :

"You know, it's not just random...I give it some thought. But I never know how it'll turn out 'till we're done. But - believe me - I always try my best, always take it seriously. And so does he. It does help that he's amazingly talented, collaborative, smart and couldn't be a better friend! But wait...ther's more! (but you have to wait...)"


Macejko2013-10-28 08:30:55
"There's more"? Another collaborator?


badbu2013-10-28 10:49:32
Pharell Williams + Hans Zimmer = NICE!
They also worked on Man of Steel together ;)He played the drums!


MacArthur2013-10-28 16:06:17
Ok...Thanks Hybrid :)


El Baradei2013-10-28 17:35:19
Why don't you trust in Hans Zimmer?

He is a genius, and he always knows what he is doing. And by the way, he is one of few people in Hollywood who tries to do something new. No one else would think a score for a superhero-movie needs a rapper for the soundtrack, but when Hans Zimmer thinks so, I believe him.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-28 17:44:57
I'd dispute that "Zimmer always knows what he's doing" claim. Like everyone else, he gets some things right and some things wrong. Lately, to me, more wrong than right.

I'd also dispute that he's "one of the few people in Hollywood who try something new". Not that he isn't innovative when he has a mind to be, but it certainly isn't always and he certainly isn't the only one. What was so fresh about Man of Steel, for instance? What was in that score that had never been heard before?

You want to hear a composer who truly does try something radical and different every time? Listen to Elliot Goldenthal.


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-28 17:49:40
Are you really comparing a guy who did about 30 scores to someone who did around 130 ?


El Baradei2013-10-28 18:27:32
What about the idea for Batman Begins - two composers for Batman's white and dark side - and the two-note-theme. What about the Joker's theme? No other composer would dare anything like this. Or the "odd" sherlock-scores.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-28 18:40:39
Sure! I'm not saying Hans isn't creative. I'm just saying that sometimes he opts for "creativity" over "effectiveness". Sure, it must have been cool for him to do his 12-drum thing on Man of Steel but did it really benefit the score? Not really, in my opinion. The drums in that score sound pretty generic to me (granted, haven't heard the 5.1 or 7.1 or whatever it is) and could have been done by StormDrum or any other reasonably advanced sampling kit. Sure, it was an interesting idea to have people send in their own recordings to create the "deshi basara" chant for Bane. But in the end the choir in the score sounded like a small studio choir and not like the frenzied mass that I think Zimmer was going for. And the "odd" Sherlock scores aren't that dissimilar to "odd" Jack Sparrow music, so that's not exactly innovative either. And I do like the Sherlock scores (well...the first one, and the second in film).

What I'm saying is sometimes Zimmer's "ideas" don't pan out as well in the final score as they should, or could. And originality in general I think is highly overrated. Just because something is different or new should not automatically mean that it's good or worthy of praise (case in point, The Social Network).

And Hybrid, about Goldenthal. Why does the number of scores matter? Quality over quantity, wouldn't you say? If anything, the fact that he's so much less prolific is precisely BECAUSE he's such a unique and avant-garde composer. I'm not saying he's better than Zimmer (indeed, on average I'd much prefer listening to a Zimmer score than a Goldenthal one), but I can't think of a composer more innovative (for better or for worse) than him.


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-28 18:43:27
Yeah Batman Forever sounds NOTHING like Interview with a Vampire. I mean, not at all ! :D


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-28 19:34:55
Hmmm. You got me there. ^^


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-28 19:42:03
I'm kidding I love Goldenthal's work... ;)


MacArthur2013-10-28 21:34:28
Ed...Hans Is very "Effective" His scores work better in the film than any other composer that I have heard.

John Williams in his older days matched him.


MacArthur2013-10-28 21:42:47
But you are right about the social network.

Although I think that some of his other scores were very good and very creative MoS especially. Now in 2011 the score for that year were in my opinion boring or just not as good (Mind you the themes were ok...Crysis 2, Some Sherlock Holmes, and Rango theme wasn't bad) but didn't care for the overall scores that were presented that year but Hans new stuff I think has been great keep it up please.


0-cool2013-10-28 22:28:42
Zimmer wrote this on facebook

"Hans Zimmer Pharrell doesn't 'dabble'. He knows more about music than most people I know. He's an enormous talent, with an encyclopedic knowledge of all styles of music. Plus, he's a gentleman, a great collaborator and a friend. ...but you lot just see the surface. We have a few other ideas up our sleeve..."


MacArthur2013-10-29 01:56:36
I don't disagree that Zimmer does't collaborate well. I'm sure he does and who knows this could be great.


tomPoland2013-10-29 08:36:10
As long as they keep Horner's themes, I don't mind. TASM was the best superhero score in past decade and it would be a shame if they threw it away.

But still, it's pure PR. Is he unsure of quality of the score and need to make such things? Good score defends herself without such moves...


El Baradei2013-10-29 09:41:35
So why is it just me... I can't find anything good in Horner's score for Spider-Man. Elfman's theme was great, but Horner's is absolutely boring.
I think it's nearly unlistenable... like Jackman's theme for X-Men.

Mike reply Replies: 19 || 2013-10-14 21:03:20
I won't deny that I'm curious to see the final product, but I still find it disappointing that they chose Zimmer for this.


MacArthur2013-10-15 00:48:54
You kidding I think Zimmer will rack this score.


MacArthur2013-10-15 03:11:53
"Rock"


Mike2013-10-15 15:19:22
I agree with something Edmund Meinerts said a while back: "Nobody should get that many bites at the apple". Zimmer has scored films for 2 superhero characters already. Seems a little unfair that he be hired for a 3rd character as well. Plus, he may very well do a second incarnation of Batman (which I would legitimately look forward to). That'd land him, technically, at 4 different characters (Nolan Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Snyder Batman).


MacArthur2013-10-15 17:29:19
The Only person I think worthy of "bites at the Apple" is Hans Zimmer. I mean look at Danny Elfman He has done more superhero characters than Zimmer. (Spider-man, Batman, Hulk. Among other comic book stories. Does anybody ever rant him for doing those....No so why pick on Zimmer when he does it better than Elfman.


Mike2013-10-15 19:37:17
Hmm, good point. But Danny Elfman isn't as well-known as Hans Zimmer, so it isn't *quite* the same. :)


thejok3rrules2013-10-15 19:58:56
Elfman not as ''well-known'' as Zimmer? C'mon mate, you gotta be kidding, because Danny Elfman is renown both for his prestigious career AND his talent. Zimmer, tough one of my favorite composer, is most of the time hated by music critics, so... Careful what you say.


Hybrid Soldier2013-10-15 20:12:03
I could create a page for Danny around here. He's worked with RCP people for so long he's almost part of the family... :D

Always recruiting people here... :)


Mike2013-10-15 21:02:16
Calm down, buddy. I didn't say he wasn't as good as Zimmer, but I do honestly believe that if most people were asked who Hans Zimmer is and who Danny Elfman is, they'd recognize Hans Zimmer's name before Danny Elfman's.


MacArthur2013-10-15 21:55:44
You also have to look at the time period Danny Elfman was very Popular in the late 80's through the early 2000's While Zimmer's first Really big hit was the Lion King in 94. but still even then you ask a lot of people back then who Zimmer was they probably wouldn't have recognized him whereas Elfman people would have probably heard of him.

And personally I think that the Lion King is not the best Zimmer score I think he won cause of Elton John (Hint, hint...Hollywood loves alternate lifestyle)


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-15 21:58:06
The thing is, Elfman's superhero efforts were more spread out. He did Batman in 1989 and 1992, Spider-Man in 2002 and 2004, Hulk in 2003. I guess Hellboy in 2008 counts. Okay, so there was a period where he did a lot all at once, but if I recall, people weren't super happy with that either - his Hulk was quite badly received. Plus, during that period he did only two characters, one of which is not all that well-known.

Whereas here we've got Hans doing Batman in 2012 (and 2005 and 2008), Superman in 2013 and Spider-Man in 2014, boom boom boom. The three best-known and most popular superheroes in existence all in a row. Too many bites at the apple in quick succession, and what really worries me is that it'll make all the superheroes sound the same, pounding and brooding and dark and themeless. I found Horner's score to be a quite refreshing change of pace because it wasn't afraid to actually be openly heroic from time to time.

And Zimmer is definitely better-known than Elfman. I'd say the only film composer who beats Zimmer in name recognition is John Williams, and these days I'm not even so sure about that.


Mike2013-10-15 22:30:21
And Edmund, we'll either be given a theme of two or three notes (Batman) or a theme not used enough in the film (Superman). :P The Batman theme I didn't mind at all, but having Superman's theme so sparsely used disappointed me.


Anonymous2013-10-15 22:32:57
Zimmer did say that he wanted to try something new, so maybe, just maybe, he'll do a more traditional thematic approach?


Mike2013-10-15 22:35:58
Hybrid, I wouldn't complain were a page made for Elfman. ;) By all means, go for it.


Mike2013-10-15 22:46:08
That's quite possible that we'll get a new approach, Anonymous. On the other hand, look at John Williams: three of his heroic fantasy themes, all written around the same general time of his career (The Star Wars theme, the Superman theme, and the Indiana Jones theme) are all very similar in style. And just like John Williams with those three themes, Zimmer will have written Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man around the same time in his career. So I suspect we will get much of the same.


MacArthur2013-10-15 22:48:01
I think that The Superman Theme was great and was appropriate for the film I looked for the score when I saw the movie and I was very pleased with what I heard.


In essence I think Spider-man will be good because Zimmer is the best composer out there right now. So I think This will be great


MacArthur2013-10-15 22:58:09
And Nobody Complains about John Williams sounding the same So this shouldn't be any different Because at the time John Williams wrote this stuff Hollywood was diverting from the John Wayne type films and going more into the Fantasy realm so John williams scores can be considered the same type of thing yet nobody complained that's the thing...withe Zimmer I hear a lot of complaining. And It's not fair to him. when John williams did basically the same thing.


Mike2013-10-15 23:04:26
For what it's worth, MacArthur, I do like the Man of Steel theme--my only complaint was its use in the film, not with the music itself.


MacArthur2013-10-16 05:29:29
Funny I liked It's use in the Film but that's just me I guess


Lebo2013-10-16 10:34:51
yes, it's just you I guess

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-10-15 06:11:45
According to Film Music Reporter, a soundtrack album is in the works for 12 Years A Slave by Columbia Records for a November 11th release. It features music from and inspired by the film. Hoping that the former doesn't mean another On Stranger Tides styled album.


MacArthur2013-10-15 07:14:22
From and Inspired? (Meaning 1 Zimmer song and the rest other stupid pop songs). Huh!!!!! if that's the case I'm not buying it.


MacArthur2013-10-15 07:21:31
What I hope for is like a release like the Game of shadows release if you are going to do something like this.


JamesT2013-10-15 07:53:48
I think Hans' score is getting a separate release in some form. Hybrid?

hpp reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-13 11:18:03
Interesting!
I can't wait for the movie and the SCORE

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-13 10:37:05
I was hoping to learn the name of the mystery collaborator.

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