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John Powell would be an amazing choice, if only to get him more mainstream exposure. <br><br>The thing is, if you strip away the drums, sound design, and harsh-mixing Tom is a actually a pretty gifted ďclassicalĒ composer imo. His string writing has always impressed me, and seeing his use of woodwinds in Alita definitely proved that he can write outside of the mold Hollywood had put him in post-Mad Max.<br><br>Avatar 2 is most likely going to need a pretty diverse score, if the first one is any indicator. James Horner combined traditional orchestra, tribal drums, ethnic elements, electronics, and masculine action writing. All of which I could see Tom doing quite well.Chrono order goes like this :<br><br>Dublin 1996<br>Driving<br>Deceit<br>Second Warning<br>First Warning<br>Research<br>Conversations<br>The Beating<br>Traynor Lies<br>Never Show Your Fear<br>Preparations<br>The Killing<br>Bad News<br>The Funeral<br>One More Day<br><br>But some tracks have cues edited together, and some titles are not exactly perfect lol...Atli is fine in Iceland, maybe he just doesn't want to look for trouble anymore... :)Lorne did work on this score. At the very end, when the film (and therefore, the score) was getting butchered by editors to shorten it, there was very little time to rework the score to adapt it to the new cut. So Steve called Lorne for help, who agreed but asked not to be credited (his team was, so it kinda defeated the purpose lol)... They didn't do THAT much on the score, but Battlefield is indeed a LB cue (it sounds nothing like SJ).<br><br>Not the first time this happened. Lorne extensively worked on TF1 & 2 (credited), but also helped (uncredited) on TF3 (there again, his assistant back then Andrew K. was credited).Alright, that's ^^ a bit too far, but I agree that there's not enough evidence to really support the theory. The only compositions that seem like Balfe might have had a hand in are the various reprises of "Bumblebee" (aka the Journey theme) that was always rumored to be co-composed by Balfe, and the big choral section in "Your Voice" when the knights begin attacking Optimus, as that is also a progression I associate heavily with Balfe's involvement in the first 2 scores. But that's still not enough to prove that he was involved.<br><br>By the way Bayhem, I don't believe that John Williams or Howard Shore have lied about doing their work by themselves. John Williams has worked with William Ross and probably others, but I don't think they're lying when they say they've done a score themselves. They seem like they can compose on their own just fine.
Yep, if "deserving" existed, Atli would've gotten many more movies than he currently does.Anyone know of a proper chronological listing of this score? I tried cross-referencing it with the expanded listed here and made this:<br><br>01 Dublin, 1996<br>02 <br>03 <br>04 <br>05 Second Warning<br>06 Research<br>07 Driving<br>08 The Beating<br>09 Traynor Lies<br>10 Never Show Your Fear<br>11 Preparations<br>12 The Killing<br>13 Bad News<br>14 The Funeral<br>15 One More Day<br><br>But I have no idea where Conversations, First Warning, and Deceit goes, and I'm not sure if Traynor Lies and Driving are placed correctlyif you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap<br>..................<br><br>Fair enough....But look back on the comment itself. It's kinda confusing. The way you wrote it created the illusion that Lorne not only ghostwrote the score, but he also dismissed it as crap. You didn't say "I dismissed the rumor". You said: "...a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap." <br> <br><br>Anyway, moving on.....<br><br>Steve was interviewed a lot about The Last Knight and it's pretty obvious that he worked hard on that score. From the day they started shooting the movie. Was he supported by other composers? Absolutely. You can't score such a huge movie by yourself. Any composer who claims that is lying.<br><br>So there's nothing shocking or surprising about the fact that other composers were involved here. As for them being "Lorne's people"......well, considering how MV/RC-related composers work and how interconnected everything is, the "Lorne guys" could very well be friends with Steve too and perhaps he simply brought them on board. Or they were recommended by Lorne. It certainly doesn't mean that there was this top secret plan of them and Lorne actually ghostwriting the entire score. I still wonder do these rumors even come up? Who spreads them? And why? I ask because this is not the first time I've heard rumors about Zimmer scores and Jablonsky scores. It's always these two guys. Which happen to be two of the most prominent and popular MV/RC guys. Coincidence? Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but it kinda makes me think that someone is intentionally trying to undermine the biggest MV/RC names by constantly throwing shade at their work."Deserving" is a word that doesn't exist in Hollywood, so stop thinking that way... lolThe problem I have with Junkie XL scoring Avatar is just that there are so many RCP composers better or more deserving. You have Zimmer, Powell, Gregson-Williams, Mancina, Jackman, is just so wrong to think Junkie XL is scoring Avatar and none of those guys are.
I think that Tim Miller played a greater role in case of Terminator and Sonic. And I really don't see Junkie as good choice for Avatar 2.@Edmund <br>I still stand by my opinion that Holkenborg scoring Avatar 2 could be pretty interesting. Pairing him up with a director who is known to be strict with his musical choices and continuing on from James Hornerís classic might produce something really good. And seeing his gradual progress as a composer with Mortal Engines and Alita have personally given me some hope (2 years ago I would have said hell no).<br><br>And Iím not surprised by the choice for T6. Not looking forward to this project at all but we did get a cool score from Balfe for the last one so maybe there is some hope for the music at least.I think Terminator is a decent match for JXL's talents (listen to "The March" from Divergent), but this feels like further evidence that James Cameron is grooming him for Avatar 2, which I really hope ends up not being the case.Yes, Tom will be scoring the new Terminator movieChill out Bayhem, if you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap.<br>But seeing people from his team ivolved and considering the fast and furious situation, I canít help but wondering if thereís some truth to that rumor.<br>Now for a guy talking about haters, saying that Lorne scores 36million projects and B movies (forgetting mission impossible) I think youíre pushing it a bit.<br>Anyway no hate I donít care who wrote it Iím just curious about the behind the scenes stuff.
You're reaching there a bit Bayhem, I see no one in this thread trying to undermine Steve's work or the score. Hell the first poster was just asking if Lorne worked on it and if so, to what extent. And the "rumor comment" is a logical extension of Lorne's whole regular team being credited on the score, therefore it is possible that he did additional work on it.Again a "rumor" comment that's trying to undermine Steve's work. And in this case, an entire score. Lorne fans, please stop trying to constantly undermine other composers in favor of your guy. It's childish and extremely disrespectful. You've done it multiple times on these boards. What's next? You gonna claim that Lorne secretly scored the entire Transformers franchise? And Lord of the Rings. And Harry Potter. <br><br>Seriously, it's getting really old, really fast. <br><br>Not to mention the fact that Steve, as a composer, is much, much more experienced and established than Lorne. He's got nothing to prove. Steve takes his time when it comes to scoring. He's choosing carefully. He's got more than enough time to focus on his projects. While Lorne's name is attached to 30 million different projects, some of them cheap B-movies like Hurricane Heist. And you think he's scoring them all by himself? The irony of it all is that if anyone is using ghostwriters most of the time, it's Lorne. Not Steve. And I'm saying that as a Lorne fan as well. I'm not just a Jablonsky fan. I appreciate Lorne's work as well. But I'm not undermining other composers in favor of him.Bay has Lorne scoring his films now cause they established a relationship on 13 Hours, and Bay didn't even want Lorne for that; he wanted Hans but he didn't want to go through the exhausting process of another Bay blockbuster so he brought in Lorne instead.<br>And even then, Hans still worked together with Lorne very closely on the project (Hybrid said he was there for all the meetings, helped with synth programming, etc)Of cause Balfe worked on it .That is why Bay now uses Balfeyou can absolutely hear the 13 hours temp track in Battlefield and We Have to Go

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jin reply Replies: 0 || 2007-09-08 00:00:00
oh, very good musics, I favorite "one day" very good .. and a " Up is down "also very good!!!
I love them~~!

Ada reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-17 00:00:00
Music in PotC: AWE is the beat. My favourite is:
- Hoist The Colours
- Up Is Down
- Parlay
- One Day
- What Shall We Die For
- and evidently Drik Up Me Hearties Yo Ho
Mr. Hans... You are the master...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-26 00:00:00
Good movet . . .
Me is very happy for the Good Movet . . .

hakan reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-15 00:00:00
I listen even if this musics.I want to meet with you(johnney deep and you)sorry(from excitement:)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-15 00:00:00
I listen even if this musics.&#305; want to meet with you(johnney deep and you)

hakan reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-15 00:00:00
the film and mus&#305;c are wonderfull.&#305; want to perform following films.&#305; will come to ABD for this!!!&#305; love you.the f&#305;lm is very very very excellent!!!

Mirjam reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-14 00:00:00
Thank you very much mister Zimmer for writing such amazing music. Up is down I think is especially great and I love the way you used one of mister Morricone's theme's in Parlay and combined it with your own music! I am a big fan and have great respect for your composingskills!

Darian reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-13 00:00:00
Your music has made the movie much very awesome-ish better! you are the best! my favourite's 'One Day'

Ziggey reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-02 00:00:00
Thank you mr. Zimmer for making the moving so fantastic, and for making the music for "at worlds end"even better.

Silver reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
this is the most amazing and thrilling music i have ever heard. Its the Greatest!!

yop reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-29 00:00:00
muy buena la music de hanz me encanta!!!! le da ese toque especial a la pelicula que no lo podria a ver logrado nadie mas que el!!....

Davide reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-28 00:00:00
They're fantastic!!!!!! Hans Zimmer is the best composer of the world!!!!!
Sie sind phantastischen!!!! Hans Zimmer bist am besten Komponist am Welt!!!!

me reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-28 00:00:00
best soundtrack and movie ever!! i.d.s.t!!

Kristen reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-26 00:00:00
I bought the soundtrack the day it came out, then went to see the midnight showing of the movie the day it came out. I have to ask, I've been looking on the internet all day, and I can't find the full lyrics to Hoist the Colours. Does anyone have them (including the part Elisabeth sings)?

B reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-26 00:00:00
I bought the soundtrack today and it is truly terrific! Congratulations to Hans and all involved. As for the movie, I felt it was bloated and ludicrous. It was saved only by Johnny Depp's skills as an actor and Hans Zimmer's skills as a musician. The movie wasn't worth the price of admission as a film, but as an advertisement for the soundtrack it was excellent. Gore Verbinski and writers Ted Elliot and Terry Rossio have done themselves, the franchise and its fans a great disservice. Hans Zimmer has only elevated himself further.

godzi reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-19 00:00:00
yes..........i have it, to buy today at free record shop brussesl.
this soundtrack is monstruous, nice job sir zimmer

M reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-13 00:00:00
The musical part in the potc 3 trailer is made with something like 10 different songs. The ones that sound interesting (in my opinion the track when the ship rides over de desert) are from special agency which are specialized in trailer music such as Immediate Music or X-Ray Dog. I have also been looking for these track during a very long time, but X-Ray Dag tracks are not available to public and I haven't really checked out Immediate Music, so I cann't help.

Elizabeth Turner reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-13 00:00:00
It sounds AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Based on the descriptions and clips, my top three are...

1) At Wit's End
2) I See Dead People in Boats
3) One Day

I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!

These clips increased my anticipation for the movie by a ten fold. A feat most would have thought impossible!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-10 00:00:00
Wow! Just great!

kimba reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-09 00:00:00
whats the music used in the trailor for potc 3, i can't listern to the clips

nash reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-06 00:00:00
help i cant play it. nor in Firefox or in explorer, how do i install the quick time plug in for both or one of them
thanks in advance

Marius... reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-06 00:00:00
The Track "Drink Up Me Hearties" caugth my interrest at once..- beutiful track with a lot of wonderful layers and chatching themes...- Look forwardto the release..

Junior reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-04 00:00:00
Awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johncarter reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-03 00:00:00
Yo ho, all together

Hoist the Colours high

Heave ho, thieves and beggars

never shall we die


johncarter reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-03 00:00:00
yeah wolverine. I love the epic rendition of the pirates chant "What shall we die for" , it's great !
It's very thematic, soft, funny, epic, action when its needed. The first album of pirates really seem like an intruder in this trilogy. Don't get me wrong i love it, but pirates 1 only consists of "ta dadadadada" "TATATATATATATA" all the time , exploding your speaker, so i'm kind of bored of it.

Slawek reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-03 00:00:00

molossus reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-03 00:00:00
OH MY GOD! Finally Zimmer has composed a true colorfull and orchestral action score!! I have no words! I am a Zimmer fan since days of thunder, but Im his hardest critic too. In the last years I was waiting for a true orchestral action score, but Zimmer always did something diferent and dissapointed me.In fact, I wrotte a comment about Dead man's chest here saying how I dissapointed I was....but Now.... A BIG, COLORFULL, ENERGIC, TOUCHING AND EPIC ZIMMER SCORE!!!! THIS IS THE KIND OF SCORE LIKE CUTHROAD ISLAND OR THE MUMMY RETURNS. THANKS ZIMMER!

Ram reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-03 00:00:00
"Up is down' is probably the best track in the album, its got all the potential to be the musical icon of the film, melody carries very mature interval change which then makes the track outstanding, the melody takes place also in
ďDrink Up Me HeartiesĒ

Good Job overall but still have to see it with the images.


Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-03 00:00:00
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G !!!!! I love "one day" !!!

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