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I like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......
This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me know
The clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)
God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?
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  2018, June 04  updated by Hybrid Soldier
WIDOWS (TRAILER) - MUSIC BY HANS ZIMMER






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Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-03 00:09:12
Soundtrack album will be released on 21st of November. There will be score & songs on the album

Kalman reply Replies: 14 || 2018-09-12 13:06:47
The reviews mention the score positively. Will there be a (CD) release?


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-12 13:11:19
Probably not, there's something 20 min tops of score in the whole film...


...2018-09-12 13:20:16
Damnit. Let's hope for a FYC like 12 Years a Slave


Mike2018-09-13 06:57:07
I can't say I get why Steve McQueen keeps getting Hans and has him write these 20 minute scores... I mean, I'm sure they're friends and they like working together. But if you're gonna get a composer like Zimmer, you should take advantage of his talent and have him write a score that makes a significant impact on the movie!


theGordo2018-09-13 08:01:32
@Mike It's all about music serving the film.


Anonymous2018-09-13 08:15:28
Or maybe it is just a favor-for-a-friend sort of marketing.


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-13 12:48:10
Why the hell would they add more music for the sake of "having more music" ?


If it needs 20 min, it's 20 min... I didn't hear that sort of comments when Hans wrote 35 min of Rain Man for a 2h+ movie, or 35 min of True Romance... Or the longest score ever, 6 minutes for The Boat That Rocked !!


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-13 13:05:39
To be fair, Hybrid, Hans was in a very different place in his career in 1988/1993 vs. now. :p

I think the question is not so much "why is there so little music in the movie" but rather "if you're going to have so little music in your movie, why bother splashing out the big bucks to get a massive name like Hans Zimmer when there are literally hundreds of other composers in Hollywood who would do as good a job for a tenth the budget?" ...other than marketing, that is. Maybe they figured they were going to get a lawsuit if they got some other composer to rip off Time throughout 12YAS and so dodged that bullet by asking Hans to do it himself?


...2018-09-13 15:33:41
Why not get Zimmer to do 20 minutes of music if you really like his music. It's a strange way to approach scoring. Anyone can write a 2 hour score as well so why is that any different.


mpolonest123 2018-09-13 16:10:59
And is Zimmer’s pay always consistent? For big budget movies sure, the studios will obviously dump out the cash on him. But I can’t imagine him costing as much for something like Freeheld or this, especially when there is only 30 minutes or so of music in the film. I also get the feeling these are the type of films he likes to work on.

And wasn’t it Big Z who worked on Casi Divas for $1? I’m sure each situation is different.


Mephariel2018-09-13 17:35:21
I don't get the idea that you can't get Zimmer if you only want 20 minutes of music. If you like someone's style and you two collaborated together well, why not? The questions is, why would you get someone else unless you think the music is not going to work. Money is obviously not an issue since the studio approved it.


Ds2018-09-13 19:54:29
I agree that some films don't need more than 20 minutes. But to be honest, aside from auteuristic filmmaking with a lot of embarassing silences, most films with short scores just happen to use a lot of songs. No idea if it's the case of Widows, though. But if it's indeed the case, I'd agree that it's a pity to use pre-existing songs while you can have Zimmer himself creating awesome new music.


Mike2018-09-13 22:36:12
Eh, yeah, there can be a 20 minute score. I mean, I don't REALLY care. I just look forward to more of Hans' music when he's writing it, and it's a bit disappointing with scores like this one where we won't get much new music. Who knows! Maybe it'll be 20 minutes of really awesome music. Idk. Either way, having 20 minutes almost guarantees there won't be any kind of musical arc to this score.

And yeah, I get all the "it needs to serve the film" stuff. I pretty much agree with Edmund and Ds, though.


theGordo2018-09-15 14:16:26
Everything is as the director wants it... if its "awkward" silence, or old songs, or the new score... most of the times the director doesn't try to satisfy film score fans as his priority.


Kalman2018-10-02 17:33:28
There's a CD (pre-order) at amazon by Milan! :


https://www.amazon.com/Widows-OST-Various/dp/B07HQ7G91C/ref= sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1538494375&sr=1-3&keywords=widows +soundtrack

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