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After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>
so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."
I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.I wouldnít be surprised if he wrote another long sketchbook for it...I honestly have no idea... But I can't believe back in June when he left he hadn't done a bunch of the score already...The thing is with Jablonsky scores composers rarely get cuesheet credits, so you can't really draw conclusions out of it. Here's a small part of the cuesheet :<br><br>QUINTESSA PT 1<br>QUINTESSA PT 2<br>QUINTESSA PT 3 OPTIMUS REDEMPTION<br>KNIGHTED<br>WE HAVE TO GO ZERO GRAVITY<br><br>OPENING BATTLE<br>MERLIN<br>MERLIN GETS THE STAFF - BATTLE WON<br>TROUBLED TIMES<br>CADE DRIVING - AMULET<br>WE HUNT - DECEPTICONS HUNT<br>KEEP A SECRET - VIV ARRIVES CASTLE FOLGEN<br>WITWICCANS<br>ROUNDTABLE ORGAN SOURCE<br>COGMAN CHOIR<br>STAFF<br>BETTER GET CRACKING<br>PLANETARY VAMPIRISM<br>TOO OLD<br>SUBMARINE<br>TWO MOONS<br>MERLIN'S TOMB<br>SPACE STATION<br>CLAIM THE STAFF<br>SHIP RISE<br>YOUR VOICE<br>SOLDIERS TAKE POSITION - BURTON DIES<br>FALL AND GRAB<br>ENDINGrumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it
Any chance of proper artist credits for this score?@Hybrid <br><br>Did Tom actually record anything for the film or did he just do demos?It's the same 24 tracks divided on two CDs. I'm truly hoping for a nice numbered digipak that separates the limited editions from the regular release otherwise it would be quite a crappy move from the record label. <br><br>"Joss said, ĎLetís do it [Batmanís theme] on the nose. Fans love this kind of stuff.í" Why do you have to ruin everything, Joss?This film is atrocious. Suicide Squad was a mess but that film was forgivable. What WB decided to with JL is embarrassing, to say the least. Forcing Zack to change the tone and add forced childish humor and quips, demanding a less than 2-hour runtime, extensive reshoots with Whedon in charge... wtf were they thinking?<br><br>It's interesting to note that Zack hasn't even seen this abomination yet.
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  2003, May 30
Steve Jablonsky assurera la musique du nouveau film d'animation de Katsuhiro Otomo (Akira)Steamboy. Un projet vieux de 10 ans qui a eu beaucoup de mal à voir le jour‚ le tout pour un budget conséquent de 20 millions d'euros‚ mettant en péril la société productrice Bandai‚ qui espère un succès au moins équivalent à celui de Princess Mononoke.
Sortie prévue en octobre 2003 au Japon‚ novembre 2003 aux USA.
 
Teaser (divx - 4Mo - 24 sec) disponible en bas et à droite de cette page (faites défiler)
En savoir plus...


  2003, May 24
Ajout de la page consacrée à Lisa GERRARD
Fiche technique et extrait de "Whalerider"
Fiche technique de "Immortal Memory"


Heitor PEREIRA est actuellement en tournée en Bolivie et au Chili jusqu'à la mi-juillet. Ce dernier enregistre du matériel musical pour le prochain film de Harry GREGSON-WILLIAMS‚ Welcome To The Jungle dont il assurera la musique additionnelle.


  2003, May 19
L'album Immortal Memory‚ fruit d'une collaboration entre Lisa GERRARD et Patrick CASSIDY vient d'être achevé. Une édition CD est prévue pour septembre 2003.


Varèse annonce la sortie en CD du nouveau John POWELLThe Italian Job‚ pour le 24 Juin prochain‚ soit presque un mois après la sortie du film sur les écrans US (le 30 Mai). Pas plus de détails pour le moment...


Hans Zimmer est l'invité de la Goethe Institut Los Angeles mercredi 21 mai à 19h. Il y tiendra une conférence sur les différents aspects de la composition pour le cinéma en l'illustrant de clips sur sur les plus grands films qu'il a mis en musique.
En savoir plus...


  2003, May 17
Après le succés de l'épisode 2‚ c'est bien Harry GREGSON-WILLIAMS qui compose la musique du jeu Metal Gear Solid 3 (fiche technique & movie trailer (11 minutes). Pas de nouvelles concernant une potentielle édition CD...
Remerciements à Thez



Ajout de la biographie de Ofra HAZA (1957-2000)


  2003, May 16
Nouveaux Teaser de The Last Samourai
Nouveaux Teaser de Metal gear Solid 3
 


(Ajout des discographies de Steve JablonskyJames S. LevineMel WessonRamin Djawadi et Graham Preskett)


  2003, May 14
Nouvelle discographie consacrée à Rupert Gregson-Williams


 


 

 
LE SUJET :
Se situant dans la mer des Caraïbes au 17ème siècle‚ l'histoire est celle de Jack Sparrow(Johnny Depp)‚ pirate "gentleman"‚ faisant alliance avec la fille du gouverneur pour stopper une bande de terribles pirates menés par le Capitaine Blackheart(Geoffrey Rush). Ces derniers ont pour projet de mettre en oeuvre une ancienne malédiction qui les transformeraient en morts-vivants‚ la lune reflétant leurs squelettes.
 


 
The Lion King 1.5
 
Le 4 Février 2004‚ sortira directement en DVD zone 1 The Lion King 1.5 : Hakuna Matata‚ en chantier depuis plus de trois ans maintenant... L'action se déroule au même moment que The Lion King‚ mais nous est contée du point de vue de Timon et Pumba‚ avant leur rencontre avec Simba et pendant son enfance avec eux.
Au niveau musical‚ "Wharthog Rhapsody" a été réenregistré sous le nom de "Meerkat Rhapsody"‚ et Lebo M. a composé de nouvelles chansons originales...
Une édition pour laquelle Disney nous promet de nombreux bonus (dont une vidéo musicale)...


  2003, May 11
Nouveau teaser de The Last Samouraï

  2003, May 10
John POWELL remplace Carter BURWELL sur GIGLI (Martin BREST)
Une information Filmscoremonthly.com concernant le prochain film de Ben AFFLECK & Jennifer LOPEZ (précédemment intitulé Tough Love). Pour anecdote‚ ce serait donc la deuxième fois que John Powell remplace Carter Burwell‚ après The Bourne Identity
 


A propos de Matchstick Men...
 
Dans une interview donnée pour l'occasion de la remise du Henry Mancini Lifetime Achievement‚ ZIMMER évoqua parmi les désormais légendaires anecdotes sur ses débuts peu concluants dans le monde de la musique classique‚ ses affinités avec Stanley Myers‚ son arrivée à Hollywood ... ses rapports avec Ridley Scott durant The Matchstick Men.
Y a t'il parmi les nombreux projets auxquels vous avez participé une déception ou satisfaction majeure ?
HZ : Je ne sais pas. Je travaille en ce moment avec Ridley Scott sur Matchstick Men et Ridley m'a dit quelque chose que je pense n'avoir jamais entendu de la part d'un réalisateur.
"Regarde‚ si nous n'avons pas un accordéon dans ce film‚ le film ne tient pas."
Et cela vient de l'homme qui nous a apporté Alien‚ Gladiator et Blade Runner.
La chose la plus fameuse est que vous ne savez jamais ce qui vous attend au détour du chemin.


  2003, May 10
ASCAP ; Remise du prix Henri MANCINI à Hans ZIMMER
Détails de la cérémonie
Extraits Vidéos


  2003, May 07
Le Site Soundtracknet annonce que Hans ZIMMER et Klaus BADELT co-composeraient le score de Pirate of the Caribbean‚ remplaçant Alan SILVESTRI qui avait travaillé dessus jusque là.

Un choix qui s'imposait à l'esprit et ne saurait nous surprendre :

1 - Le style Zimmer est le synonyme musical des grosses productions Brukheimer
2 - Grand retour vers ce style après le somptueux Muppet Treasure Island en 1996
3 - Gore Verbinski vient de travailler avec Zimmer sur The Ring

Une info qui reste cependant à confirmer...


  2003, May 07
Klaus Badelt



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  2003, May 05
Hans ZIMMER compose pour Robbie WILLIAMS
Johnny ENGLISH
 
Téléchargez la Bande-annonce de Sinbad : Legend Of The Seven Seas


  2003, May 05
Inspiration (Maybach commercial)



  2003, May 01
Nouvelle Animation Flash disponible

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Music By... Devinez :-)


  2003, May 01
La publicité Airwaves actuellement diffusée sur les chaînes françaises (mettant en scène Frankenstein) contient une musique provenant duDirectors Cut Chiller


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