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Back in 2003/2004 some guy made his own fan-made "expanded score". <br>Some tracks were actually OST tracks looped, with some drums added in the mix, some were from an unknown source. I only remember some badly-mixed synth cues that sounded like home-made, experimental material.would love to help out, but the video/track is blocked :/Think about Gemini Man, the score come out the same day as the movie (in that case, 11th October), and the details come the same week.<br><br>We'll likely get final details towards the end of the week or early next week. I guess I'm just a little surprised that it's taken this long. The movie had surprise screenings either yesterday or the day before, so it seems like everything's pretty final.Sorry, that is the wrong link above (film version)<br><br>This is the track I'm talking about. Does anyone recognize this version.<br><br>https://youtu.be/etkri6OKLpE
There is an expanded score album with the track called "Sniper/Border Post". It is different from the piece used in the film. Does anyone know the true identity of that track. I like the synth sound and the male vocal singing/wailing/crying in this cue.<br><br>https://youtu.be/DbENmej_cH0But the scores comes out in 1th NovemberThe movie is out this Wednesday in some territories."In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is UNMEMORABLE"<br><br><br>Aaaaaaaaaaaaand your whole analysis falls flat right there ! :PThanks Edmund.<br><br>@PaulH I am not meaning to say that Balfe cannot compose good music. There are compositions that I like: the Picasso theme is creative and well-written. Just that I find his arrangements of others more compelling usually than his own material.<br><br>An example that is good of this is kung fu panda. His arrangements of themes are really fun and energetic. In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is unmemorable. Contrast to Hans: the Po theme and Spirit theme are precise, fun, harmonically clever, and memorable. But his score cues sometimes feel lacking: his transitions are clunky, the bridge material is uncreative and basic. <br><br>It must be so much fun to work on those projects together. Coming up with idea and hearing what someone can turn it into, or getting to play with someone's idea without the pressure of starting from scratch.
And also, be prepared for more Studio Time for the scoreTom said in his Twitter: 'Details very soon'<br><br>Altough, is only a week awayThe Nils Frahm track was released years agoNo one is mentioning "Says" from Nils Frahm. What a masterpiece of music. Love how it develops and getting so emotional even with that futuristic sound-effect. One of the highlights of this score, with those tracks Cerbei mentioned.Balfe is a great arranger but an even better composer.Beyond Two Souls is still one of the best game soundtracks.<br><br>
I must have watched another movie in regards to Balfe filling in the gaps - that makes no sense?The soundtrack released seems not to relate to what was actually used in the film.Balfe “gap” music is featured much more and works brilliantly<br>Last night I was talking to Lorne, and he told me that in principle there is intention to release the full score.I'd be very interested to hear the supposed Balfe complete score to picture where he apparently sought to elevate it, as someone here put it. The Richter is pitch-perfect and works massively well to picture and, not dissing Balfe at all, his stuff is literally 'additional music' to fill the gaps.Aplusle, that's really well put actually.Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)
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  Tears Of The Sun (Complete Score)2019-10-22 19:45:42
Dawn
Back in 2003/2004 some guy made his own fan-made "expanded score".
Some tracks were actually OST tracks looped, with some drums added in the mix, some were from an unknown source. I only remember some badly-mixed synth cues that sounded like home-made, experimental material.
  Tears Of The Sun (Complete Score)2019-10-22 10:36:30
Ned
would love to help out, but the video/track is blocked :/
  Terminator - Dark Fate2019-10-22 10:11:30
MrZimmerFan
Think about Gemini Man, the score come out the same day as the movie (in that case, 11th October), and the details come the same week.

  Terminator - Dark Fate2019-10-22 05:54:17
BC
We'll likely get final details towards the end of the week or early next week. I guess I'm just a little surprised that it's taken this long. The movie had surprise screenings either yesterday or the day before, so it seems like everything's pretty final.
  Tears Of The Sun (Complete Score)2019-10-22 02:21:00
SPECTER
Sorry, that is the wrong link above (film version)

This is the track I'm talking about. Does anyone recognize this version.

https://youtu.be/etkri6OKLpE
  Tears Of The Sun (Complete Score)2019-10-22 02:17:29
SPECTER
There is an expanded score album with the track called "Sniper/Border Post". It is different from the piece used in the film. Does anyone know the true identity of that track. I like the synth sound and the male vocal singing/wailing/crying in this cue.

https://youtu.be/DbENmej_cH0
  Terminator - Dark Fate2019-10-21 19:58:48
MrZimmerFan
But the scores comes out in 1th November
  Terminator - Dark Fate2019-10-21 19:45:55
DT-2017
The movie is out this Wednesday in some territories.
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 19:43:13
Hybrid Soldier
"In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is UNMEMORABLE"


Aaaaaaaaaaaaand your whole analysis falls flat right there ! :P
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 19:32:30
Aplusle
Thanks Edmund.

@PaulH I am not meaning to say that Balfe cannot compose good music. There are compositions that I like: the Picasso theme is creative and well-written. Just that I find his arrangements of others more compelling usually than his own material.

An example that is good of this is kung fu panda. His arrangements of themes are really fun and energetic. In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is unmemorable. Contrast to Hans: the Po theme and Spirit theme are precise, fun, harmonically clever, and memorable. But his score cues sometimes feel lacking: his transitions are clunky, the bridge material is uncreative and basic.

It must be so much fun to work on those projects together. Coming up with idea and hearing what someone can turn it into, or getting to play with someone's idea without the pressure of starting from scratch.
  Terminator - Dark Fate2019-10-21 18:00:22
MrZimmerFan
And also, be prepared for more Studio Time for the score
  Terminator - Dark Fate2019-10-21 17:58:19
MrZimmerFan
Tom said in his Twitter: 'Details very soon'

Altough, is only a week away
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 16:10:33
PaulH
The Nils Frahm track was released years ago
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 15:11:56
Anderson
No one is mentioning "Says" from Nils Frahm. What a masterpiece of music. Love how it develops and getting so emotional even with that futuristic sound-effect. One of the highlights of this score, with those tracks Cerbei mentioned.
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 14:38:58
PaulH
Balfe is a great arranger but an even better composer.Beyond Two Souls is still one of the best game soundtracks.

  Ad Astra2019-10-21 14:31:43
Michea
I must have watched another movie in regards to Balfe filling in the gaps - that makes no sense?The soundtrack released seems not to relate to what was actually used in the film.Balfe “gap” music is featured much more and works brilliantly
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 14:16:20
Mr.Unbreakable
Last night I was talking to Lorne, and he told me that in principle there is intention to release the full score.
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 14:01:07
Yous
I'd be very interested to hear the supposed Balfe complete score to picture where he apparently sought to elevate it, as someone here put it. The Richter is pitch-perfect and works massively well to picture and, not dissing Balfe at all, his stuff is literally 'additional music' to fill the gaps.
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 10:07:09
Edmund Meinerts
Aplusle, that's really well put actually.
  Ad Astra2019-10-21 02:25:52
Aplusle
Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense.

Both super talented in their own ways. :-)
  Chicken Run2019-10-21 00:43:30
Joey Good
Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?
  Maleficent - Mistress Of Evil2019-10-20 17:33:23
Iamtommie44
Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.
I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.

Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on album
  Ad Astra2019-10-20 16:40:30
Anderson
I can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.

And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/

Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensation
  Ad Astra2019-10-20 15:47:11
Thomas
Balfe’s part is the best I think.
It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.
My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesn’t seem to represent that for some reason.
  Ad Astra2019-10-20 06:56:11
Anonymous
I really liked Richter’s score over balfes
  Ad Astra2019-10-20 06:26:36
mills
I listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous.
His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best.
His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.
If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.
  Ad Astra2019-10-20 06:03:44
mills
Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.
It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 18:08:28
mpolonest123
@Cercei
Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richter’s score is used (alongside Balfe’s material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly it’s a mish-mash of the two.
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 18:05:54
mpolonest123
I do know that piece, it’s very pretty. I’ll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His “Music For Airports” and “The Lovely Bones” are excellent if you like more introspective music.
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 18:03:33
Cercei
btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 17:59:45
Cercei
thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 17:56:14
Cercei
i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale).

  Ad Astra2019-10-19 17:34:10
mpolonest123
Really surprised at this album, I’ve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. It’s funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.

Balfe’s contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). It’s disappointing that they didn’t include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.
  Gemini Man2019-10-19 17:22:12
MrZimmerFan
Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 17:21:12
MrZimmerFan
Was the producers
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 17:19:25
Cercei
i haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 17:19:10
Cercei
"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!
  Maleficent - Mistress Of Evil2019-10-19 16:54:26
mpolonest123
Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. I’ll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things I’ve noticed;

1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3
2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe I’m just crazy lol)
  Maleficent - Mistress Of Evil2019-10-19 14:08:39
MrZimmerFan
Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 13:59:44
Ahmad
It’s definitely Balfe. I’ve seen the film for the second time two weeks ago so my memory is kind of hazy but luckily I decided to record the end credits for reference and I think it plays in Balfe’s section / variation of one of his themes played on a solo string instrument.

I think we got most of Richter cues as it was mainly his release. I feel that Lorne has moved on from this project - he didn’t even mention the release so an extended release of his material seems unlikely to happen :(

For those interested the credits suite plays as follows:


“A Trip To The Moon” (synth part)
“I Put All That Away”
Variation on the theme in “Underground Lake” at 0:14
Variation on the theme in “Trip To Neptune” 0-1:00
“To The Stars”
  Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan (TV Series)2019-10-19 08:16:13
Shince Thomas
Season 2 premieres in 2 weeks, if he was scoring he would be working on it at the moment. But yes no confirmation regarding his return or a new composer. No news regarding new composer might be a hint whether Djawadi is returning or not.
  Maleficent - Mistress Of Evil2019-10-19 08:06:25
Mephariel
I only listened to the first couple of cues so it is too early to form an opinion comparing it to JNH but I disagree the first half drags. Maybe because I love tender themes.
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 05:45:55
HunterTech
I suspect that the release was just what they had originally planned, with a couple of bonus tracks thrown in to appease Fox. They likely didn't put too much thought in what they added, since people who have spoken with Lorne said he wasn't aware of the release and was surprised Prayer wasn't on it. I'm just glad anything got released at all after everything that has gone before.

Regarding that theme you mentioned, is it one that sounded like the personal motif Ethan has in M:I Fallout? Because while I did initially assume that was Balfe too, it seems it was actually Richter. Haven't gotten to hear Lorne's parts yet, so who knows he if he also did a similar thing.
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 03:12:18
Ahmad
It’s not included and I’m very confused. I think there’s a good amount of unused tracks or the way the score was used was so terrible that only few tracks were memorable to me.

There’s a theme that plays during two tragic moments - I thought it was “Prayer” but it isn’t. I think it’s by Lorne as it’s closer to the direction he took.

I wish they gave us more Balfe :(
  Tears Of The Sun (Complete Score)2019-10-19 01:36:07
sketches
I know this is probably the wrong place for it but I'd love if Hnas would one day release a CD of just his demo sketches and suites. I find hearing the original intentions/ideas even when rough really fascinating.
  Ad Astra2019-10-19 00:41:18
Tomasz
11.22.19
  Maleficent - Mistress Of Evil2019-10-18 23:21:14
Hybrid Soldier
Yeah lol one way or another... :P
  Maleficent - Mistress Of Evil2019-10-18 23:20:24
Edmund Meinerts
21. Hello, Beastie! (3:42)

Geoff Zanelli will be haunted by the specter of the PotC franchise until the day he dies, lol
  Maleficent - Mistress Of Evil2019-10-18 18:20:24
JBSO99
After listening to the whole thing, I can say that, while not as great as Newton Howard, Zanelli did a great job in here, adapting the original themes as well as creating some new ones.

The first half of the album drags a bit, but the second half is really fantastic!
  Ad Astra2019-10-18 16:18:21
Spencer Mitchell
Is a CD release being planned?

If so, when is it coming out?
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