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x2 :-)Any idea when this ships? It's not up for pre-order anymore on MyPlay Direct anymore, it simply says Add to Cart now..they still haven't processed my order yet, it still says 'pending' in Paypal.Out of all the tracks in the FYC/"Sessions", Quantifiable Connection is my new favorite track!I really hope not, the score is probably really interesting, and I really want This is the End as well.The mentioning of the terrorist attack of September 11th was enough to make Sony and the major theaters shit their pants..
I wonder if with all the mess around the movie LLL will end up cancelling this...<br><br><br>The day America died... lolOkay, seriously, is EVERYONE other than me, Hybrid and Zimson here a creationist?<br><br>Or am I just the only guy stupid enough to bother responding...So the choice comes down to either believing that life just magically created itself from absolutely nothing or believing that God created it.  It seems to me that it takes more faith to believe in evolution.  As I said before, if I'm wrong, what have I lost?  If your wrong then God help you.Here's another quote. This from Dr. John Ross of Harvard University:<br><br>"…There are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems."Kelvin (hardly a Creationist) described the 2nd law of thermodynamics as follows: "There is no natural process the only result of which is to cool a heat reservoir and do external work."  <br><br>This law observes the fact that the usable energy in the universe is becoming less and less. Ultimately there would be no available energy left. Stemming from this fact we find that the state of any natural system is one of disorder. All natural systems, open or closed, degenerate when left to themselves, thus the theory of evolution will never be more than a theory.<br>
You're being brainwashed, says the guy who bases his entire belief system on a 2,000-year-old collection of random texts.<br><br>PRICELESS.<br><br>I'm done here.Ed, The entropy principle applies as much to open systems as to closed systems. In an isolated real system, shut off from external energy, the entropy (or disorganization) will always increase. In an open system (such as the earth receiving an influx of heat energy from the sun), the entropy also always will increase and as a matter of fact, will usually increase more rapidly than if the system remained closed. Anyone familiar with the actual equations of heat flow will know that a simple influx of heat energy into a system increases the entropy of that system; it does not decrease it, as evolution would demand. Opening a system to external energy does not resolve the entropy problem at all, but rather makes it worse.  Try again.Anonymous, I think you're wasting your time with edmund.  He has been brainwashed by the anti-God liberal science and academia to believe that a theory is somehow a fact.  Those of us who have faith and belief in God know the truth and that's what matters most.  God bless buddy.Mac what you say is plain stupid... It's the notion of God & what it basically brought to mankind so far... I don't hate "God", there isn't any, I hate the creeps trying to put inside the head of everyone that there is one (or several, whatever) !<br><br>And if there was one, (s)he would so facepalm so much watching the state of this planet, that's for sure ! :DMacArthur, I don't hate God and I don't hate people for believing in God. What I do hate is when people use their God as an excuse to get in the way of reason, scientific advance, fairness, equality or just plain common sense. I'm not an atheist, incidentally. I guess you'd call me an agnostic - I believe what seems most realistic to me, and I'd put my trust in science, research and intellect over faith and dusty ancient texts 10 times over 10.<br><br>Stop it with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, please. It only applies to closed energy systems that don't receive a constant flow of energy from an external source. Living things aren't closed systems - they receive energy from the food they consume. Hell, the earth itself is an open system - it gets energy from the Sun, which, don't forget, is responsible for ALL LIFE - and hence the Second Law and entropy don't apply to it either. Also, stop saying "evolution is just a theory" - gravity is technically "just a theory" too, so have fun jumping off a high building!<br><br>And of course evolution isn't going to apply to a rock. Rocks aren't alive. Rocks don't procreate. Rocks don't develop traits that give them advantages over other rocks. Rocks don't CARE whether they have advantages over other rocks!<br><br>To everyone else reading this, look, I'm sorry for clogging the forum with unrelated stuff like this, guys. I know this is turning into a YouTube comments section. I just can't believe that it's 2014, where pretty much everyone has the fount of all human knowledge at their fingertips, and there's STILL debate over this. THAT'S the thing in this thread which has come closest to making me doubt evolution.
And then comes my question to everyone...Coming from a guy whose religion and faith mean everything to him, and who wishes they would be equally important for everyone else, in the interest of what he believes to be the truth...<br><br>WHY are we having this long and drawn-out debate on a music site? Can't it be taken to other boards?x4. Yeah, the poem thing was pretty pointless. It wasn't even read in an engaging way.Zimson, yeah you're right, Ed's logic and facts don't work here because they are neither logical or factual.  Remember the word "theory" man, evolution is only a theory for a reason.  I like what MacArthur said...  You'd better indeed be right that there is no God, because I'd hate to be you when you find out there is one.Here is my Question for Atheists. why do you hate God so much when be your belief system he doesn't exist. So what do you have to worry about. <br><br>Except for the fact that if you don't believe he exists. You'd better be right!Looked on Amazon.co.uk &#163;40 (~$60) is very expensive. At least it's being released though.
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  Interstellar (Expanded Score)2014-12-18 07:24:16
badbu
x2 :-)
  Interstellar2014-12-18 07:10:39
Russel
Any idea when this ships? It's not up for pre-order anymore on MyPlay Direct anymore, it simply says Add to Cart now..they still haven't processed my order yet, it still says 'pending' in Paypal.
  Interstellar (Expanded Score)2014-12-18 03:56:40
T-Mann036
Out of all the tracks in the FYC/"Sessions", Quantifiable Connection is my new favorite track!
  The Interview / This Is The End2014-12-18 03:52:25
Russel
I really hope not, the score is probably really interesting, and I really want This is the End as well.
  The Interview / This Is The End2014-12-18 00:58:41
Leo
The mentioning of the terrorist attack of September 11th was enough to make Sony and the major theaters shit their pants..
  The Interview / This Is The End2014-12-18 00:03:50
Hybrid Soldier
I wonder if with all the mess around the movie LLL will end up cancelling this...


The day America died... lol
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 23:39:31
Edmund Meinerts
Okay, seriously, is EVERYONE other than me, Hybrid and Zimson here a creationist?

Or am I just the only guy stupid enough to bother responding...
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 22:18:41
Anonymous
So the choice comes down to either believing that life just magically created itself from absolutely nothing or believing that God created it. It seems to me that it takes more faith to believe in evolution. As I said before, if I'm wrong, what have I lost? If your wrong then God help you.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 22:11:12
Mark
Here's another quote. This from Dr. John Ross of Harvard University:

"…There are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems."
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 22:02:28
Mark
Kelvin (hardly a Creationist) described the 2nd law of thermodynamics as follows: "There is no natural process the only result of which is to cool a heat reservoir and do external work."

This law observes the fact that the usable energy in the universe is becoming less and less. Ultimately there would be no available energy left. Stemming from this fact we find that the state of any natural system is one of disorder. All natural systems, open or closed, degenerate when left to themselves, thus the theory of evolution will never be more than a theory.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 21:58:11
Edmund Meinerts
You're being brainwashed, says the guy who bases his entire belief system on a 2,000-year-old collection of random texts.

PRICELESS.

I'm done here.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 21:46:30
Anonymous
Ed, The entropy principle applies as much to open systems as to closed systems. In an isolated real system, shut off from external energy, the entropy (or disorganization) will always increase. In an open system (such as the earth receiving an influx of heat energy from the sun), the entropy also always will increase and as a matter of fact, will usually increase more rapidly than if the system remained closed. Anyone familiar with the actual equations of heat flow will know that a simple influx of heat energy into a system increases the entropy of that system; it does not decrease it, as evolution would demand. Opening a system to external energy does not resolve the entropy problem at all, but rather makes it worse. Try again.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 21:31:27
Mark
Anonymous, I think you're wasting your time with edmund. He has been brainwashed by the anti-God liberal science and academia to believe that a theory is somehow a fact. Those of us who have faith and belief in God know the truth and that's what matters most. God bless buddy.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 20:00:32
Hybrid Soldier
Mac what you say is plain stupid... It's the notion of God & what it basically brought to mankind so far... I don't hate "God", there isn't any, I hate the creeps trying to put inside the head of everyone that there is one (or several, whatever) !

And if there was one, (s)he would so facepalm so much watching the state of this planet, that's for sure ! :D
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 19:09:54
Edmund Meinerts
MacArthur, I don't hate God and I don't hate people for believing in God. What I do hate is when people use their God as an excuse to get in the way of reason, scientific advance, fairness, equality or just plain common sense. I'm not an atheist, incidentally. I guess you'd call me an agnostic - I believe what seems most realistic to me, and I'd put my trust in science, research and intellect over faith and dusty ancient texts 10 times over 10.

Stop it with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, please. It only applies to closed energy systems that don't receive a constant flow of energy from an external source. Living things aren't closed systems - they receive energy from the food they consume. Hell, the earth itself is an open system - it gets energy from the Sun, which, don't forget, is responsible for ALL LIFE - and hence the Second Law and entropy don't apply to it either. Also, stop saying "evolution is just a theory" - gravity is technically "just a theory" too, so have fun jumping off a high building!

And of course evolution isn't going to apply to a rock. Rocks aren't alive. Rocks don't procreate. Rocks don't develop traits that give them advantages over other rocks. Rocks don't CARE whether they have advantages over other rocks!

To everyone else reading this, look, I'm sorry for clogging the forum with unrelated stuff like this, guys. I know this is turning into a YouTube comments section. I just can't believe that it's 2014, where pretty much everyone has the fount of all human knowledge at their fingertips, and there's STILL debate over this. THAT'S the thing in this thread which has come closest to making me doubt evolution.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 18:48:41
Mike
And then comes my question to everyone...Coming from a guy whose religion and faith mean everything to him, and who wishes they would be equally important for everyone else, in the interest of what he believes to be the truth...

WHY are we having this long and drawn-out debate on a music site? Can't it be taken to other boards?
  Interstellar2014-12-17 18:40:45
Mike
x4. Yeah, the poem thing was pretty pointless. It wasn't even read in an engaging way.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 18:22:02
Anonymous
Zimson, yeah you're right, Ed's logic and facts don't work here because they are neither logical or factual. Remember the word "theory" man, evolution is only a theory for a reason. I like what MacArthur said... You'd better indeed be right that there is no God, because I'd hate to be you when you find out there is one.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 18:10:56
MacArthur
Here is my Question for Atheists. why do you hate God so much when be your belief system he doesn't exist. So what do you have to worry about.

Except for the fact that if you don't believe he exists. You'd better be right!
  Interstellar2014-12-17 16:48:58
NM
Looked on Amazon.co.uk &#163;40 (~$60) is very expensive. At least it's being released though.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 15:33:28
Zimson
Ed, leave it. Logic and Facts don't work here.
  Interstellar2014-12-17 15:31:08
bro
x3
  Interstellar2014-12-17 15:13:07
badbu
x2 :D
  Interstellar2014-12-17 15:08:45
theeaglesfan005
Tim,

The poem track is the worse thing I have ever heard
  Interstellar2014-12-17 11:04:25
badbu
30.01.2015 in Germany.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 05:36:52
AnaAnnoyedFan
SHUT UP! Just talk about the music. THE MUSIC. That is why we are all here. This is a small group, stop fighting about your beliefs and just enjoy what you have in common. I am so sick of seeing all of this bickering. It is ridiculous how childish its gets around here. Please, just stop.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-17 03:06:17
Anonymous
Ed, you have not said anything that disproves creation is possible nor have you said anything that proves evolution is true. I can't believe you don't even understand what the Second Law of Thermodynamics is. Matter and energy do not have to be "alive" to be observable, and they are indeed governed by entropy as life is. what are you some kind of moron or something? Scientists who have to keep laughably explaining away contradictory evidence to their "THEORY" T H E O R Y (it's called a theory because it hasn't been proven true) with silliness that "billions" of years can change anything. Heck even a rock can become a Boeing 747 if you wait long enough, right? How absurd and how gullible you are. Choosing NOT to believe in God does NOT mean He doesn't exist... it just means your are foolish.
  Interstellar2014-12-17 00:26:16
bro
judging by what hans has said in interviews, day one (original demo) might be closer to "Years of Messages" than it is to the refined main theme we have now.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 23:11:22
Edmund Meinerts
"Even evolutionary scientists have had to constantly change their beliefs to fit the facts."

You say that like it's a bad thing. That's what science IS. You accept what's currently known/believed until new or better information is discovered, and then you change how you look at things.

"How can life be constantly evolving to a higher state of conscience and intelligence when nothing else observable in the natural world is doing that?"

Because nothing else observable in the natural world, other than life, HAS conscience or intelligence. I can't believe I have to point that out.

"I would rather believe that God created us"

What you would rather believe has nothing to do with what is true.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 21:16:55
Hybrid Soldier
Where did it end up talking about Evolution here ? I fell asleep I stopped reading a while back... :O


I go back worshipping my composer... At least he's real and I have a proof of his music and it makes me think a lot more than the emptiness of all that ignorance ! :)

I'm sure he has fun scoring Jesus as we speak... :)
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 21:03:38
Anonymous
Thanks TR (and Mark too), I was just about to respond with a similar comment but you beat me to it. It is funny to watch the contortions that scientist go though to try and make up any silly thing they can as long as there is no chance of even remotely admitting that maybe there is indeed a higher power that created life. To me it's simple, I would rather believe that God created us rather than some "big bang" just happened (that no one can explain where it came from or what caused it) which then inexplicably created all the stars, planets, galaxies and order and infinity of the universe and then somehow some amino acids magically appeared on Earth (that no one can explain where they came from) and combined together in some primordial soup (which cannot be explained where it came from) and magically created life (which has never been duplicated by science) then these simple lifeforms (over billions upon billions of years of course) somehow defied all known scientific principles and became man, Voila!

It takes just as much faith, if not more so, to believe in that crap than it does to believe in God. If I'm wrong, what have I lost? If you non-believers are wrong, you have a lot to lose. It's a pretty logical choice and I am not ashamed of God or my faith, so your ridicule of me doesn't bother me.
  Interstellar2014-12-16 20:55:31
Fizzbin
For all guy´s outside the USA:
The Interstellar Illuminated Star Projection Edition ist avaiable for preorder on amazon.uk. Release 2nd Feb ´15

On amazon.de also listed with tracklist, but now no release date (for a few days it was end of January). At Time no preorder available.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 20:18:01
TR
Sorry but I have to agree with anonymous and Marks comments too. I have for years studied the inconsistencies in the theory of evolution and there are holes in it large enough to drive a train through. Even evolutionary scientists have had to constantly change their beliefs to fit the facts. I think what anonymous was referring to about the Second Law of Thermodynamics is one of the largest holes in evolutionary theory. That law state that all matter is in a constant state of decay and matter does not create itself of form itself into a higher state henceforth the entropy model. How can life be constantly evolving to a higher state of conscience and intelligence when nothing else observable in the natural world is doing that? The very few examples you provided of transitional skeletons have most been proven to be a hoax, if there were evolution, then there should be as many transitional fossils in the layers of strata as there are regular known full species, but there isn't and that makes no sense.
  Dragon Age - Inquisition (VG)2014-12-16 18:43:07
Everan
I can't stop listening to the main themw!!

Hoping there are more editions in the future, Dragon Age II had some. There's so much music in this. Wish the bard songs in taverns were available too.
  Interstellar2014-12-16 16:01:44
Mike
What Tim said. Two years ago, we'd not have gotten anything close to this.
  Interstellar2014-12-16 14:37:03
badbu
@theeaglesfan005
oh yes! :D :-)
  Interstellar2014-12-16 14:31:49
theeaglesfan005
badbu,

that would be awesome... to hear the first track/theme that Hans composed for the film :D
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 13:03:38
Zimson
"There is plenty of scientific, historic and archaeological evidence that fully supports the Bible"

Stand-up comedy! ;D If you call historic evidence the apocrypha books which all tell a different story, lol. Verifiable historic documents do not support the bible.
Oh, and didn't they find noah's ark on a hill a few years ago or something? I won't pull the radiocarbon dating joker since that would be unfair.

"...it [evolution] cannot be observed and is totally in contrast with known laws of science such as the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Entropy, etc."

What? You just pulled that out of your butthole. Interpreting laws of physics wrong and on top of that throwing them out to give your arguments (technically they're not) more believability is pretty sneaky. How un-christian of you.
That it can't be observed is simply not true, since it happens every day. How do explain mutation, crossbread etc. Could you really believe the makers of the X-Men series are heretics? Could you?
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 10:31:39
Edmund Meinerts
I know you were talking to Hybrid, but this is a public forum, and if you put stupid shit out there it's open to rebuttals.

What are you talking about, no evidence of transitional fossils? What about Austrolapithecus? Homo erectus? Homo habilis? Early proto-humans that are more ape-like than Homo sapiens? If that's not evidence then I don't know what is.

I'm no paleontologist, so I don't have the knowhow to really argue this - but scientists are by definition devoted to finding the TRUTH. If there was any really serious evidence against evolution, it would be taken into consideration. There are still plenty of unexplained things when it comes to evolution, but the gaps there are like hairline cracks compared to the Grand Canyon of illogic that is creationism.
  Interstellar2014-12-16 10:11:31
Tim
I'm very happy to Finally see this! If you add No Time For Caution from the iTunes release and the Don't Go Gentle Into That Goodnight poem track, that's more stuff. Compared to most Zimmer releases, this has been the most substantial. We got more music from this movie than from Man of Steel. I can't wait to have this!
  Interstellar2014-12-16 07:59:17
badbu
I think "Day One (Original Demo) " is the first first version from hans for chris :-)
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 04:31:39
Anonymous
On a different note, I wish more music from The Bible was available. Would love an expanded release or recording sessions!!! I had always hoped there would be a track on the score called The Wind. It plays a huge and pivotal point throughout the whole series. "The Holy Spirit is like the wind. No one knows where it comes from. It does what it pleases and no one knows where it goes...."

I love that.
  Interstellar2014-12-16 03:50:03
JamesT
I'm thinking...

1) Murph is somewhat lengthy demo suite that encompasses the love theme, parts of Years of Messages from the FYC, her return to the house, etc.

2) Who's They is the same great track from the FYC

3) What if Organ Variation has something to do with the Dock Scene?

4) I think Tick - Tock is the Eureka scene when you see the watch hands moving

5) And, Day One is the track that was a promo with the movie ticket purchase

We will see...
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 03:27:13
Mark
Good one @ Anonymous, I agree with you. Everything is in a state of decay (as you referred to before about entropy and the laws of thermodynamics) but yet evolution scientists just throw away all true known laws of science to try and explain that evolution is causing change into a higher state. It's senseless. Every time evidence comes up that calls into question evolution, these scientists just conveniently add a few more billion years to the theory as if that explains away the contradiction. It is laughable. Science has to be observable and testable, evolution can be neither.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 03:14:16
Anonymous
Thats funny Ed I though I was talking to hybrid. Yes of course Narnia are novels but they are nevertheless Biblical allegories, and to a lessor extent so are the Lord of the Rings novels, look it up yourself, its true. As for the Bible, no other book has endured, survived, been translated into as many languages, as widely distributed and has been as historically and archaeologically verified as the Bible has... I challenge you to name one other book that even comes close. You don't want to argue the "theory" of evolution because you can't (easy cop out). Theory is still the key word there, the only BS is believing crap that we were once apes, or that frogs were once fish, etc. Did you know there are absolutely no, zero, none whatsoever transitional fossils anywhere? How do you explain that?
  Interstellar2014-12-16 00:42:17
Anonymous
so the definitive chronological order here is this?

1. Dreaming of the Crash
2. Cornfield Chase
3. Flying Drone
4. Dust
5. Stay
6. Message From Home
7. The Wormhole
8. Atmospheric Entry (shorter on album)
9. Mountains
10. Afraid of Time
11. No Need to Come Back
12. A Place Among the Stars
13. Running Out
14. I'm Going Home
15. Coward
16. Imperfect Lock
17. No Time For Caution
18. S.T.A.Y.
19. What Happens Now? (slightly longer on album?)
20. Where We're Going

And then assuming "Who's They?" from the illuminated version is Who's They? from the FYC promo, it would go between Dust and Stay...

Then "Day One" is a suite and "First Step" is the teaser music?
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-16 00:02:36
Edmund Meinerts
Lord of the Rings is most certainly NOT an allegory for the Bible. Yes, Tolkien was Catholic and that obviously bleeds into the story a little bit, but it's nowhere near as out-and-out blatant as his friend C.S. Lewis' Narnia novels (they are novels...not sure if you realized that considering you said "the Narnia movies").

Why do I think the Bible has endured for that long? Luck. Sheer dumb luck. Oh, and hey - other texts have survived that long too, and longer.

I'm not even going to touch the bullshit you're spouting about evolution. Suffice it to say that the scientific community - you know, the people whose lives are dedicated to studying this sort of thing - would disagree with you a wee bit.
  Interstellar2014-12-15 23:48:31
Mike
If Who's They? is the same cue as from the FYC, I'll be one happy guy! I enjoyed that one. The other tracks could be anything, meanwhile. We will see. :)
  Into The Woods2014-12-15 23:34:29
Jay The Dinosaur
thanks for adding this hybrid. :) didn't know matt was an arranger.
  Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe to score A.D.2014-12-15 22:34:23
Anonymous
Well Hybrid, the Lord of the Rings is actually an allegory of the Christian Bible just like the Narnia movies are. (You can look up allegory, I'm not going to explain that to you). Why do you think the Bible is the only book to have endured for thousands of years with over a billion copies in print? There is plenty of scientific, historic and archaeological evidence that fully supports the Bible, if you opened your mind and took the time to learn about it you would see that it is backed up by more fact than the "Theory" of Evolution is (its still called a theory, because it hasn't been and never can be proven, it cannot be observed and is totally in contrast with known laws of science such as the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Entropy, etc. But I know that's way over the head of a guy who's only purpose in life is to praise and glorify a movie score composer.
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