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Wallfisch is a good composer indeed, but BR2049 (and Dunkirk) were absolutely the wrong place for him. He's not a synth guy. He was originally a protege of Dario Marianelli, for heaven's sake - he's got a far more classical/orchestral sensibility. A score like Cure for Wellness is a much better fit for him. I'm not sure why Hans thought it was best to bring him of all people in on BR2049 when the more electronically-inclined Mazzaro/Kawczynski duo would have made more sense for a Blade Runner score (I say this based mostly on Chappie).Ian - no one is trying to compare Balfe to Zimmer !Firstly there is a 20 year age gap!!!Zimmer will always be the best in my eyes but doesnít harm saying someone else can be good <br><br>Still confused why this conversation is still troubling some.I remember saying last year that I thought Lego Batman was one of the best animation scores that year and it caused some to have heart attacks.there are a hand full of people that donít think he is either good or should be working .... we get !!!! <br><br><br><br>Edmund - given the rationality you've displayed in your comments, I'm disappointed Goldsmith isn't in your top three. ;)<br><br>In all seriousness, I'd put money on Powell fucking nailing the integration of Williams's theme. While Giacchino did a solid job on Jurassic World and Rogue One (I tend to think my assessment of the latter is a bit more positive than most), frankly I just think Powell is a far better composer - a genuine A-level guy, whereas Giacchino is moreso very competent without that spark of pure talent seen in Williams, Goldsmith, Elfman, Zimmer etcI think it's worth noting that Zimmer's popularity at this point is largely under his direct control - meaning that if he were to decide to stop touring, go back to writing full-time, and return to his 'epic' thematic style, I think we'd see a surge in his popularity of the sort we saw from Batman Begins through til Interstellar. However, I just don't think he's interested, which is totally his right.<br><br>I certainly agree that the RCP proteges at this point are, frankly, shit compared to how they used to be. I mean, even a guy like Steve Mazzaro (who I genuinely like and who wrote some of the coolest cues in Chappie, and basically co-wrote BvS - a score I actually like) just utterly pales in comparison to the Powell era.<br><br>Actually, I have to take that back a bit; Wallfisch is a very, very talented guy, honestly so much better than someone like Junkie that I weirdly tend to forget he's under the RCP roof now.@HunterTech<br><br>"I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world."<br><br>Exactly. Hans, for all the criticism he gets (much of it for good reason), has written some of the best film music of all time (seriously, having listened to huge amounts of Williams and Goldsmith, I still find Science & Religion my favorite cue ever). On the other hand, Lorne has written innumerable adequate-to-good scores, but none that I can recall are iconic. I'd say the closest he's come is in the form of his contributions to some of Zimmer's work (personally, I think his Kick It theme is the most interesting of those in Inception), but even then he hasn't done anything as memorable as Djawadi's theme from Batman Begins.
Michael - reread the second half of my previous comment. And no, I don't think Genius or Churchill are no good; I wasn't impressed by the second, to be honest, but Genius is really cool - like an updated version of Frost/Nixon, one of my very favorite Zimmer/RCP scores.<br><br>Edmund - much appreciated.<br><br>Overall, I too am baffled by many of these comments; clearly there is a middle ground between "Lorne is shit." and "Lorne is absolutely amazing.", but this seems to be missed.<br><br>And by the way, I'm actually super happy for Lorne's success - I think he deserves it given the quality and quantity of his work, and he seems like a super nice guy to boot (how many composers regularly respond to people on Facebook?). However, this doesn't mean I can't simultaneously point out the fact that much of his work is very, very similar to work he's done previously. Indeed, I think this is more of an issue for Lorne than Hans, perhaps because he takes on sooooooo many projects.I agree. His Justice League theme is just a deconstruct of his Batman theme. Clever, yeah sure - he's done similar things with the Men In Black sequels and I'm sure there's others I can't think of right now - but I personally dont consider Elfman's involvement in this new DCEU to be very welcome. Zimmer paints a different canvas than Elfman, and I love both their works.It was a missed opportunity.<br>Yeah... I'm not sure about Elfman's wave. The guy decided to bring back his old Batman theme instead of actually writing a new one. He has to re-invent himself. <br>Seven with Zimmer
Yeah, Silvestri, Newman, Goldenthal and JNH too. The six most popular "new" composers, along with Horner, of the  80's and 90's.I saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitI saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitHonestly, I do feel bad for Elfman, because for Chrissakes hes been doing 50 Shades of Grey these days, and the last memorable scores I have of him are from 2012. But I don't think Zimmer or even Elfman for that matter are done as yet. I predict by the end of this decade Zimmer will have a new wave in popularity wash in. I'm just waiting for Elfman's wave right now...not quite seeing it yet.Glad you caught it Rockhound. Think the others were too wound up to notice !!i was trying to be funny.
Pete you are funny, although u demand from others to talk about the actual soundtrack from this page, you start to talk also about another soundtrack. but ok.... i think Forgotten is a very boring track and adds nothing to the actual scene. a variation of his theme from the track Hero would have been much more intense for the ending. sadly we got 9 boring minutes of thematic development and instrumentation. Lorne can do much better as the track Hero from the same soundtrack shows.Zimmer got X-Men: Dark Phoenix this year. And I have a hard time believing he is only scoring that film this year. Zimmer always does more than 1 film a year.No need for petty cursing .<br><br>We can discuss the soundtrack instead ! <br><br>Forgotten is cool track.Itís definitely one of Bayís best movies. Wish he would make more drama based film obvious with some action. Canít cope with more robots ! The ending of the film is so emotional and this track gave goosebumps at the end. Did sound very similar to the end of The Last Knight"Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject."<br><br>Ok, so someone else gets us on this topic, an arguement occurs, and NOW, only when you've realized you're losing the arguement, do you decide that this page is only for 12 strong. Which it's not. This is a forum we talk about whatever we want here.<br><br>But what a childish and pathetic attempt at avoiding our points. Just dismissively saying "Boring! Change the subject! My ears can't handle this criticism!!! Wah, wah, wah!" I guarantee you the next step after this is going to be petty cursing.Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject
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Unstoppable
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 42'20
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  1. Stanton, PA (3:33)
  2. Frank Barnes (2:11)
  3. Will's Story (1:56)
  4. Ned (2:08)
  5. Dewey (2:25)
  6. Not A Coaster (2:18)
  7. "Are You In Or Are You Out?" (6:13)
  8. Realign The Switch (3:10)
  9. Galvin's Strategy (2:25)
  10. Playing Chicken With Trains (1:35)
  11. Will Guides 1206 (4:04)
  12. The Stanton Curve (6:02)
  13. "Who Do I Kiss First?" (4:20)
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Snake reply Replies: 5 || 2011-07-18 06:01:09
There are two missing musicians there. Heitor Pereira and Tony Morales. I have the soundtrack so if you ask me an image of it I'll gladly send you that guys.


Anonymous2011-07-18 06:07:04
you have unreleased music?


Snake2011-07-19 01:44:23
Unrealesed music?WTF?


Snake2011-07-26 07:36:41
I bought the Original Soundtrack and there are missing credits such as Heitor Pereira and Tony Morales on Guitars and Hugh Marsh on violin and Ryeland Allison isn't the music programmer, that is Anthony Lledo. Richard Whitfield, Jamie Luker and Del Spiva are also included in the Soundtrack.


Snake2011-07-26 07:39:47
I bought the Original Soundtrack and there are missing credits such as Heitor Pereira and Tony Morales on Guitars and Hugh Marsh on violin and Ryeland Allison isn't the music programmer, that is Anthony Lledo. Richard Whitfield, Jamie Luker and Del Spiva are also included in the Soundtrack.


Snake2011-07-26 07:52:29
I forgot some other credits: Halli Cauthery and Hybrid as additional music programmers, Booker White as copyist and Tim Lauber as recordist

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-11 00:00:00
@Rango
I felt the same when I heard it, but i don't think that he wanted to steal the tune. What really feds me up is the fact that some cues sound almost exacly like Pelham 123 :S

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-11 00:00:00
Rango: I don`t think it`s Harry`s fault (I can`t imagine he did it because he wanted to).
... Probably someone really liked the temp track.

Rango reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-11 00:00:00
this is a soundtrack where i have to say, and I am a HGW-fan, shame on you harry!!!
Such a bad score, just some ugly cracking beats and that's it. And then having the idea of doing such an immense copy of WHY SO SERIOUS is absolutely... oh man. I can't believe that he earned with that score so much money.

I'm wondering if Hans has heard some cues of it, especially the brutally rip-off of his track for the Joker. Everything is there, the guitar theme, the one note that gets higher, the rusty violins and cellos...

Absolutely wow, and really shame on you Harry for this :/

It has a beautiful melody in there but too short and then always put together with that immense rip-off.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-30 00:00:00
The Stanton Curve = Why So Serious?

Falconet from Italy reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-01 00:00:00
Here's some addittional credits :

Ryeland Allison: music programmer
Justin Caine Burnett: composer: additional music
Hybrid composer: additional music
Martin Tillman: soloist: electric cello

cameron reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-25 00:00:00
Frank Barnes is great sound track was copies from Indian Bollywood music...but great work

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-19 00:00:00
@asd,

Ah thanks! That strange American style... I don't get why they do it here, since they are French!
Maybe BECAUSE they're French...........

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-19 00:00:00
Yes, it's a little confusing, as it's usually year / month / day. Here it's month / day / year. Oh, well... btw. my (autographed) copy got shipped out today, yay! ;)

asd reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-18 00:00:00
@Adrian: hahaha no buddy. not july ^^. it's the 7th december ;P

Mcbain reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-18 00:00:00
Those are the best soundclips from a Tony Scott movie I've heard in a long time! Hopefully the rest of the score is just as good! Go Harry!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-18 00:00:00
Thanks for the tip!

It sounds like a fusion of Bourne and Wolverine... especially Frank Barnes!

But it sounds very good, I'll most likely buy this one :-) Hopefully Bol.com will offer the autographed copies too! Why did they announce it now, but release it in July? That's so long away... Are they waiting to see if the film is a succes? Or are they afraid of a Season of the Witch-repeat?

HGW4 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-17 00:00:00
La La Lands Records website has some sound clips up....they were also selling autographed copies...

tomPoland reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-17 00:00:00
Sounds like Deja Vu 2 (at least in the movie)

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-17 00:00:00
Great score, just saw the film! Lots of samples from DEJA VU are used

Todd reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-16 00:00:00
Where can we hear sound slips?

HGW4 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-12 00:00:00
So excited....

David reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
I Love Harry Gregson WIlliams.
The Best Composer ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harry reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
100 Copies with the sign!!!!!

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
Wow, a month away from release of the actual movie? That sucks, but I guess it shouldn't be that much of a problem considering we are going to get it eventually.

Wayne reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
Incredible!!!!
One of the best Gregson!!!
I can't stop listening the track number 3(beautiful) and the top action track number 6,10,11.
''Who Do i Kiss First?'' i'ts amazing!!Wow!!
Great work Harry!!
Congratulations!!!

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
Damn, why such a late release date? I hope it's good

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
i really look forward to this one :)
Harry Gregson Williams music in tony scott style :)
hell yeah :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
from what reviews are saying it's totally forgettable. Typical Harry and Tony borefest

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
Considering I've enjoyed their past few collaborations (namely Deja Vu), I remain optimistic!

Jaros428 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
here's the tracklisting....

1. Stanton, PA
2. Frank Barnes
3. Will's Story
4. Ned
5. Dewey
6. Not A Coaster
7. Are You In Or Are You Out?
8. Realign The Switch
9. Galvin's Strategy
10. Playing Chicken With Trains
11. Will Guides 1206
12. The Stanton Curve
13. Who Do I Kiss First?

Jaros428 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
also, here's what a reviewer on Cine Talk said about the score....

"Harry Gregson-Williams score is very good, although it does sound very similar to THE DARK KNIGHT score, in some ways itís better, because it really fits the feel of the picture. When these two, Gregson-Williams and Scott, get together, its always great. I did notice that there were some cues from AVP2 score too".

Jon reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-27 00:00:00
Awesome. And it comes from La-La-Land, which is an excellent label.

HGW4 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-27 00:00:00
I can't wait!!!!!

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