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Ha! As I always suspected, EDI's Sacrifice was co-written by an MV/RC guy. It was just too obvious...<br><br>It's weird to see BT's electronic/transe sound mixed up with a classic MV/RC sound, but I kinda like it. I admit, when I first heard the score I wasn't terribly impressed (aside from Thailand and EDI's Sacrifice), but now I'm warming up to it. The Rabin/Zimmer influence is quite obvious, so that's a good reason to give it a listen. <br><br>Come to think of it, BT needs to do a score with Junkie XL. Now THAT would be a great combo. They should team up for the next Mad Max movie. It will be a madhouse of a score. lol.Hybrid doesn't like the FYC because of how much it butchers Steve's original themes and doesn't include additional composer credits. I believe that was the reason.The FYC score was complete. And it's out since november last yearIs there a complete score out there? If not, don't be surprised there's nothing here yet. Sometimes it takes years before a complete score listing pops on this site.Why no listing here for the complete score?
Because they didn't work direcly in this score, but their material from the previous one was reused.Does anyone know why some of the composer names are in brackets? Thanks!thanks4:05 of "STEALTH" some of the best soulful action music I've heard from a Zimmer score. I wonder who wrote that particular section. This the type of stuff I would play trying to rush a pregnant woman to the hospitalIn case he's visiting this site, I wanna say 'Thank You' to Ashton Gleckman who does the 'Behind the Score' episodes on YouTube. I loved the 1-hour episode for the Transformers scores and I actually learned a lot. Very educational. I found the video by accident and now I plan on watching his other videos as well.<br><br>Job well done, my friend.
@Hybrid <br>You don't add anymore Trevor Morris things ?Probably for chronological purposes<br>even though the movie uses a shortened version of Romanian Wind at that timei saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene.<br>===============================<br><br><br>I agree. <br><br>And I think at the end of the day the movie itself is not the type of movie that could win people over with its score. No matter how successful and popular it is and no matter how good the score is. I Am Number 4 was part of the YA craze that took over Hollywood a few years back (we all know how people feel about those movies), and even the most successful YA movies (like Twilight) are not exactly known for their scores.<br><br>People - even film critics who are supposed to talk about all aspects of the movie - were too busy talking about half-naked characters and Kristen Stewart's acting..... and completely ignoring the good work done by Alexandre Desplat.<br><br>It was pretty much the same with I Am Number Four...<br><br>It's not that Trevor created a "bad" score, it's simply a case of a nice, little score that went under the radar. No one bothered to talk about it..... Just like his score for Torque, which as far as I'm concerned is one of his best scores.I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.<br>===========================<br><br><br>I totally get what you're saying. I also get kinda frustrated when a "big" track overshadows an entire score. The best recent examples are IMO the Transformers scores. I don't blame folks for gravitating towards the epic sound and the power anthems, but A LOT of subtle, equally great tracks end up getting completely ignored. And just like you, they're usually my favorite tracks. <br><br>But why most people don't think like us?<br><br>The reason I think is because those "big tracks" are presented - most of the time - during the most memorable moments in those movies. They immediately get people's attention. They're stuck in their mind along with those iconic images. And I think by nature, people are more attracted to the big and "in your face". For most casual listeners the more subtle tracks work in the context of the movie and they absolutely do notice them while watching the actual film. But unlike you and I they don't feel the need to listen to them separately. They're too busy paying attention to the "big track". That goes even for some score fans.<br><br>While tracks like the Star War theme, the Indy theme, the Transformers theme, the Gladiator theme, the Godfather theme, the Armageddon theme, the Pirates theme, the Lord of the Rings theme are so big, melodic abd easily digestable that folks simply can't resist them. And when there are vocals involved as well (like Gladiator) it's even better, because people treat it as a full-blown song. An emotional song that they can listen to over and over again.<br><br>The subtle tracks simply can't win against that. Sadly....<br><br>By the way, speaking of The Island, My Name is Lincoln (as much as I like it) is not my favorite track of the score. The more subtle opening track (The Island Awaits You) and especially the Lima One Alpha theme are my personal favorite tracks. Of course, they're nowhere near My Name is Lincoln, in terms of popularity.<br>Why is Romanian Wind not sequenced after Case Re-Opened? Is not the former 7M48 and the latter 7M47?
Yeah that is true, canít argue there lol<br><br>And is it me or does ďCalypso Must Be ReleasedĒ sound like Black Hawk Down?To be fair there is a lot of King Arthur in At World's End too. Just the general feeling you get from the action tracks in both scores is virtually identical. Hell, one of the main themes from King Arthur even appears when Bootstrap Bill remembers that Will is his son.@MrTweedy<br>Thatís totally fine, everyone has their own favorite HZ scores, which is awesome!<br><br>Itís funny though, I feel like DMC is far more schizophrenic than AWE. Now donít get me wrong, I absolutely love DMC. Itís the score that got me into Hans Zimmer. But still, I feel like a major part of that score is note-for-note reprises of cues/themes from COTBP. Not to mention the temp tracking of King Arthur.<br><br>AWE always felt far more original to me, especially considering that the entire tone of the music shifts from the ďrockínírollĒ sound of the first two to a more traditional score (at least by Hans Zimmer standards lol)@MrTweedy<br><br>Just curious, what scores do you considered to be Zimmer's best?The Pinnacle of Hans' career?<br>Although I really like this score, I don't agree. But hey, I know it's just a matter of opinion, okay? ;)<br><br>Of course it shows Hans strengths in almost every area (action, drama, romance, comedy...) but for me it's too much of a medley of previous works, without much personality.<br>It feels a bit like a palette with too many colors. From the action sequences borrowed from Drop Zone, to the Morricone inspirations for Jack's Sequences, to Gladiator's duduk that ended up there with no real reason, to a beautiful Love Theme that brings another new shape to the sonic identity... it's like the score sometimes goes schizophrenic.<br><br>Though each individual idea is really enjoyable to listen to, I think Hans has made scores that are much more cohesive and enjoyable as a whole!
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Rain Man (Score)
Label: Notefornote Music
Length: 45:23
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  1. Drive From The Country (1:25)
  2. Empty House - Charlies Memories (1:23)
  3. Drive To The Bank And Wallbrook (1:26)
  4. Leaving Wallbrook (1:43)
  5. Traffic Accident And Aftermath (4:05)
  6. Train Crossing - Walk Dont Run - Farmhouse (2:53)
  7. Putting Ray To Bed (2:15)
  8. On The Road (1:24)
  9. Las Vegas (7:01)
  10. Charlie Tries To Hug Raymond (1:05)
  11. Smoke Alarm - Freaked - Baby Burn (1:27)
  12. Pancakes - My Main Man (2:42)
  13. Train Station Goodbye (1:59)
  14. End Credits (3:19)
  15. Leaving Wallbrook - On The Road (2:53) (Bonus Track)
  16. Las Vegas - End Credits (8:21) (Bonus Track)
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JD reply Replies: 1 || 2018-04-03 13:55:40
Are you saying Gergeli suplied you a bootleg tape? Fine, let's hear the evidence now please - otherwise we might look at who you are and start to inspect a court case for defamation. I hope you have proof and we don't have to make you go to jail for perjury.


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-03 15:45:35
Perjury? I didn't know that posting on HZ.com was tantamount to swearing yourself in, or did I miss something in the fine print?

JD reply Replies: 4 || 2018-04-01 09:24:24
Notefornote is issuing a 1,000 CD limited edition of the score. They posted a clip on their facebook page showing an example of the quality of the sound.



Hybrid Soldier2018-04-01 13:00:17
Yeah, in fact I couldn't wait to get rid of that old horrible Perseverance CD... That new one will be ok.


Oscarilbo2018-04-02 16:05:16
Thanks for the heads up! It sounds freakin-tastic compared to the Perseverance release! that buying experience left a pretty bad taste in my mouth!


Oscarilbo2018-04-02 20:30:56
Ordered!
I now wonder how did they found a better source ?
Or should I ask, how in the hell did Perseverance got that awful source ?


Jack Sparrow2018-04-03 02:32:41
I can say that the source for the Perseverance release came from that fella Robin hired to produce it, Gergely? I once spoke to somebody about this and he told me that the source was a tape that may or may not have contained MP3 files.

I spoke to Robin about this years later. He shrugs and argues he couldn't have canceled the release so he released it. The new album from Note for Note is explained by Ford on FSM. It's tapes and a real digital source. Seems from listening to the samples its light years better. Deeper sound, definition. If anybody is to blame for the previous release it's that guy Gergely.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-27 19:16:49
I miss this kind of music which compsed by hans ...

mittens reply Replies: 1 || 2018-01-13 22:36:31
The quality is so bad! So bad! Dear God! Looks like they downloaded the bootleg version and made from it this cd. Is that even legal??


Mandarin2018-01-14 11:04:42
Cry from the heart :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2010-09-07 00:00:00
Yes it's confirmed... ;)


Yumbo2013-12-23 23:28:11
It just made it it iTunes. Quality is better than the bootleg.


al bundy2013-12-24 15:52:53
it's even better on CD in lossless quality, than itunes compressed sh*t.

Stalker reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-15 00:00:00
Nicolai ...You negative person first over at Intrada, then FSM and now here...sad indeed

Evers reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-15 00:00:00
I agree with Nicolai... The sound quality is very, very bad.

Disappointing in spite of the beauty of the score...

Nicolai reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-12 00:00:00
it is a total shame this score found its way to an official release.
The SOUND quality is not even near at, what you usally expect from LIMITED EDTION official releases now-a-days.

@ adrian,
yes... it is way cooler to have an official album than a boot. But still I am so sad/upset that no real effort was put in to do a real good remaster of the score.

Instead the folks behind this release, excuses in the liner notes:
"This album was transferred from really crappy analog files. Although every effort was made to reduce anomalies inherent in these files, such as tape hiss or warble, some still persist."
Hey... WTF... if you don't have the right master-material, don't do a release then!!!

I'll stick with my 2 HZ tracks from the CAPITOL RECORDS release, whenever I am in the mood to listen to the awesome oscar nominated score for Rain Man.

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-11 00:00:00
@ Cloud,

That's a shame... Rain Man deserved a good score!
But now you have an original disc with a booklet ;-) Thats cooler than a boot.
I wonder why Zimmer did not want to participate or even be consulted.

Well, I still want to buy it, as soon amazon releases it!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
@ Cloud,

So how does Rain Man sound? Is it like the End Credits that is on the OST disc? Or worse?

And has it more material than the bootleg around?

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
I haven't received my copy of the CD yet, but I can pretty much guarantee you it's not even close to the quality of the 2 tracks on the old Capitol soundtrack release. Unfortunately.

As for the content on the CD, it's basically the same as the "bootleg", minus the other mix of the Smoke Alarm cue. I'm not sure which of the two are included on the CD though. (And one cue seem to be splitted in two tracks (or it was originally 2 cues...))

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
@ Per : How can you "pretty much guarantee" the quality of the sound: You haven't heard it yet. And by the way: either there is a guaranty or there is no guaranty. There is no such thing as a "pretty much guaranty" ;)

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
The sound quality is pretty much the same as on the bootleg, which is absolutely terrible for an official release. It seems they upped the bass and volume a bit, but I can't really tell the difference between this and the boot. I thought the quality would be better, to be honest. Alas, a huge disappointment.

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
So I received my copy today and guess what's written on the back of the booklet: "This album was transferred from really crappy analog files. Although every effort was made to reduce anomalies inherent in these files, such as tape hiss or warble, some still persist." :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-07 00:00:00
well, then they deserve that people hunt for vootlegs then when they dont co-opperate...
Shame on Remote Control!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-06 00:00:00
@Trent Easton Navarro
-1

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-05 00:00:00
That is a shame that they refused to participate...

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-30 00:00:00
Apparently they tried, but Hans and his studio were not interested in participating.

Kaya reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-30 00:00:00
From what I understood no one ever talked to Hans about it anyway. They were going forward with the release and he didn't even know about it.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-28 00:00:00
@Trent Easton Navarro
+1

MK reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-20 00:00:00
Very nice! Ordered!!

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-19 00:00:00
Ah, the good old days when Zimmer was still creative and didn't rely on 200 ghost writers... Looking forward to this one.

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-19 00:00:00
Just edition for a great piece. Rain Man is brilliant!! ZIMMER is brilliant!!!!!!

Jon reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
This is awesome! The first score of Zimmer that gets the special treatment. I love it!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
I wouldn't judge the sound quality by the website samples... I think if the sound was at all inferior they would have said so on the website so anyone who ordered would be aware.

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
Well, it's the complete score, more or less, as heard in the film anyway.

Unfortunately, due to Zimmer & co (according to Robin Esterhammer (Perseverance Records) in the FSM forum) "flat out refused" to work with them on the project, they only "...had access to a safety copy of the recording sessions.", meaning it doesn't have as good quality as it could, and should, have !

I would assume this to be from the same, or a very similar, source as the old unreleased (or 'bootleg' if you will) is from. I haven't heard the whole CD yet, of course, so this is based solely on the few samples available for listen.

I fear this might be the "guideline" of other older score Zimmer releases in the future too; A label manage to do a deal to release a score, but then no great source of the score is to be found, and only excists in the composer's hands, but he refuses to help, and it ends with them using a not-so-great backup tape copy of the score located on some desk someplace, or nothing is to be found, and the release won't happen at all :(

Would not surprise me if the Zimmer - "popularity" goes down a little after this ... it certainly did for me ! (Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about this release causing the Zimmer-popularity to drop, but the fact that he refuses to even help out on getting his older scores released.)

Nevertheless, a big thanks to Perseverance Records for doing this release. Remember, only 2000 copies available, so don't wait too long before you buy it ! :)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
I'd say there's like 4 themes or sub-themes in Rain Man, Ele ! :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
That's it guys !! :D

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
Whoehoe :D This is great!!

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