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<br>"Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty."<br><br>Blackwood might want to have a word with you.Too many songs! But at least there is 15 tracks of score.<br><br>BTW, I don't think Djawadi is able just to do themes. His score in GoT Season 7 shows that he is able to do action tracks very well. Also, in GoT Season 6, he shows that he is able to have many themes and develop them in many different ways.Meta your comment is based on smoke...<br><br><br>Do you have any idea of what Hans & Elfman's relation is ? How many scores Danny mixed at Remote Control ? That when Hans was writing Batman Begins, Danny was in the next room and Hans invited him to check what he was doing ? How many people from RCP Elfman recruited to help him ?lol it's too funny the guy even spent the time of typing all this...<br><br>Some people apparently have very boring lives on this planet !These comments by “Balfe” are comical.god knows where such venom comes from . Maybe an ex employee probably.he was correct on one point .He is indeed a trailer composer.He just did the mission impossible trailer!!!
LOL. I guess this "Balfe" guy is one of those trolls from Stop RCP group.Many benevolent saviours explaining the error of our music tastes have surfaced recently, haven't they?Eh, Mr. Ellipsis, I have to take issue with your appeal to popularity. Justin Bieber sells millions of records. That doesn't make his music good. Last year's piece of crap pointless Beauty and the Beast remake made a frankly terrifying amount of money at the box office. Doesn't stop it being a piece of crap.Guys, I know a lot of you probably think I'm an overly critical snob, but next time you do, just remember this guy and realize how much worse I could be. :pBalfe is not a composer, but still he gets to compose dozens of films and shows every single year, wow. He must be doing something good if he is on of the most busiest composers out there, don´t you think? Or you want to tell me that every producer, director or whoever hires him is deaf? Do you know how many films had to be re-scored by Balfe in the past few years? <br><br>
Why you feed the troll?<br><br>Wrong.<br><br>1. Wallfish is a very fine composer, period. Hans is a synth guy.<br><br>2. If Hans wasn't concern about BR he wouldn't do it.<br><br>3. Slavery was abolished 150 years ago. Hans choose to did it and agreed to involve Wallfish.<br><br>4. Maybe true, but it wasn't the thought of Villeneuve.here we go again:<br>Why Hans Zimmer Got The Job You Wanted (And You Didn’t)<br>https://behindtheaudio.com/2013/07/hans-zimmer/Hey you guys.<br><br>Balfe is a trailer composer not someone who composes real scores. He helps Hans out on his projects and occasionally may have a good idea. He is not an artist, simple as that.<br><br>Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty. The epitome of that is Terminator Genisys that even fans of the franchise found embarassing (and that is for a series based on synth scores). The samples are especially abhorrent<br><br>How he climbed to compose music for real films is a mystery. Go back to one of his earliest scores, the 2009 'score' for Ironclad, to find how utterly disappointing his work has been all the way throughout his career.<br><br>Balfe is a hack. He will never be considered a real composer. The industry knows Hans is pushing him and once that attention goes somewhere else, as it does with Hans frequently, Balfe will be immediately forgotten. Tell me - who actually wants a Lorne Balfe score for their film!!<br><br>You rapid fans supporting his work will be laughed at as being idiotic symbiotic followers. Get a fragging grip.<br><br>Balfe is not a composer. <br><br><br>This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here?<br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy.<br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure.
This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here? <br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy. <br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure. <br><br><br>Dunkirk is a sound experiment and not a score. It is rather sad to see a fine composer like Benjamin Wallfisch deal with this nationalistic nonsense.It would be very interesting to get a better sense of what exactly Zanelli's role in the franchise is. He is a very capable composer but his work on 5 was utter scheisse. But that may just be what the franchise calls for. How does the supposedly precarious Hans put his name on all this shit.I would not be surprised if this was done by Balfe finally trying out his real compositional skills outside of him just acting as Hans' copy assistant. Everything that Balfe has done on his own to date is abysmal (okay The Lego Batman movie had some flair but that was probably done by the next generation of assistants). <br><br>Please go back to Ironclad and listen to Balfe before he was HBalfe, to hear his skills. Not very good, right? The man is an arranger not a composer.<br><br>This score will be utterly crap or it will sound like Tron and Transformers. <br><br>Shame as Del Toro and Steven Knight work with real composers like Max Richter who would have excelled here.Instead of concerning ourselves with Sia, we have to be worried about Djawadi. The man has a knick for a simple tv tune. But anything outside of that sounds like a youtube fanvideo. The incidental score for Game of Thrones, especially the wall scenes, is terrible and amateurish. <br><br>All I can think is that the producers must have been pressed with time and had to go with the casio synth nonsense Djawadi presented them with. It is the worst example of scoring for a major franchise. <br><br>Again, Dwajadi does well with his choral bits but he is not a composer, more a theme tune man. Who Wants to be a Millionare would serve him better than a complex franchise. <br><br>Simultaneously, the Paint it Black material from Westworld is outstanding. But was this done by Djawadi or a much more talented orchestrator - can we look into this as it sounds nothing like his work
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Rain Man (Score)
Label: Perseverance Records
Length: 35'05
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  1. Drive From The Country (1:23)
  2. Empty House (0:44)
  3. Charlie's Memories (0:36)
  4. Drive To The Bank And Wallbrook (1:23)
  5. Leaving Wallbrook (1:40)
  6. Traffic Accident And Aftermath (3:57)
  7. Train Crossing (0:18)
  8. Walk Don't Run (1:27)
  9. Farmhouse (0:47)
  10. Putting Ray To Bed (2:00)
  11. On The Road (1:22)
  12. Las Vegas (6:51)
  13. Piano Source Music (1:04)
  14. Smoke Alarm (1:23)
  15. Pancakes (1:07)
  16. My Main Man (1:33)
  17. Train Station Goodbye (1:52)
  18. End Credits (3:12)
  19. On The Road (Wild Panpipes) (1:16)
  20. Las Vegas (Wild Vocals & Percussion) (1:11)
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mittens reply Replies: 1 || 2018-01-13 22:36:31
The quality is so bad! So bad! Dear God! Looks like they downloaded the bootleg version and made from it this cd. Is that even legal??


Mandarin2018-01-14 11:04:42
Cry from the heart :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2010-09-07 00:00:00
Yes it's confirmed... ;)


Yumbo2013-12-23 23:28:11
It just made it it iTunes. Quality is better than the bootleg.


al bundy2013-12-24 15:52:53
it's even better on CD in lossless quality, than itunes compressed sh*t.

Stalker reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-15 00:00:00
Nicolai ...You negative person first over at Intrada, then FSM and now here...sad indeed

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
I know the guy who did the "remastering" on this disc. Hes Hungarian and a right stuck-up person. Such a waste...

Evers reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-15 00:00:00
I agree with Nicolai... The sound quality is very, very bad.

Disappointing in spite of the beauty of the score...

Nicolai reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-12 00:00:00
it is a total shame this score found its way to an official release.
The SOUND quality is not even near at, what you usally expect from LIMITED EDTION official releases now-a-days.

@ adrian,
yes... it is way cooler to have an official album than a boot. But still I am so sad/upset that no real effort was put in to do a real good remaster of the score.

Instead the folks behind this release, excuses in the liner notes:
"This album was transferred from really crappy analog files. Although every effort was made to reduce anomalies inherent in these files, such as tape hiss or warble, some still persist."
Hey... WTF... if you don't have the right master-material, don't do a release then!!!

I'll stick with my 2 HZ tracks from the CAPITOL RECORDS release, whenever I am in the mood to listen to the awesome oscar nominated score for Rain Man.

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-11 00:00:00
@ Cloud,

That's a shame... Rain Man deserved a good score!
But now you have an original disc with a booklet ;-) Thats cooler than a boot.
I wonder why Zimmer did not want to participate or even be consulted.

Well, I still want to buy it, as soon amazon releases it!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
@ Cloud,

So how does Rain Man sound? Is it like the End Credits that is on the OST disc? Or worse?

And has it more material than the bootleg around?

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
I haven't received my copy of the CD yet, but I can pretty much guarantee you it's not even close to the quality of the 2 tracks on the old Capitol soundtrack release. Unfortunately.

As for the content on the CD, it's basically the same as the "bootleg", minus the other mix of the Smoke Alarm cue. I'm not sure which of the two are included on the CD though. (And one cue seem to be splitted in two tracks (or it was originally 2 cues...))

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
@ Per : How can you "pretty much guarantee" the quality of the sound: You haven't heard it yet. And by the way: either there is a guaranty or there is no guaranty. There is no such thing as a "pretty much guaranty" ;)

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
The sound quality is pretty much the same as on the bootleg, which is absolutely terrible for an official release. It seems they upped the bass and volume a bit, but I can't really tell the difference between this and the boot. I thought the quality would be better, to be honest. Alas, a huge disappointment.

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
So I received my copy today and guess what's written on the back of the booklet: "This album was transferred from really crappy analog files. Although every effort was made to reduce anomalies inherent in these files, such as tape hiss or warble, some still persist." :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-07 00:00:00
well, then they deserve that people hunt for vootlegs then when they dont co-opperate...
Shame on Remote Control!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-06 00:00:00
@Trent Easton Navarro
-1

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-05 00:00:00
That is a shame that they refused to participate...

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-30 00:00:00
Apparently they tried, but Hans and his studio were not interested in participating.

Kaya reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-30 00:00:00
From what I understood no one ever talked to Hans about it anyway. They were going forward with the release and he didn't even know about it.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-28 00:00:00
@Trent Easton Navarro
+1

MK reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-20 00:00:00
Very nice! Ordered!!

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-19 00:00:00
Ah, the good old days when Zimmer was still creative and didn't rely on 200 ghost writers... Looking forward to this one.

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-19 00:00:00
Just edition for a great piece. Rain Man is brilliant!! ZIMMER is brilliant!!!!!!

Jon reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
This is awesome! The first score of Zimmer that gets the special treatment. I love it!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
I wouldn't judge the sound quality by the website samples... I think if the sound was at all inferior they would have said so on the website so anyone who ordered would be aware.

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
I'd say there's like 4 themes or sub-themes in Rain Man, Ele ! :)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
Well, it's the complete score, more or less, as heard in the film anyway.

Unfortunately, due to Zimmer & co (according to Robin Esterhammer (Perseverance Records) in the FSM forum) "flat out refused" to work with them on the project, they only "...had access to a safety copy of the recording sessions.", meaning it doesn't have as good quality as it could, and should, have !

I would assume this to be from the same, or a very similar, source as the old unreleased (or 'bootleg' if you will) is from. I haven't heard the whole CD yet, of course, so this is based solely on the few samples available for listen.

I fear this might be the "guideline" of other older score Zimmer releases in the future too; A label manage to do a deal to release a score, but then no great source of the score is to be found, and only excists in the composer's hands, but he refuses to help, and it ends with them using a not-so-great backup tape copy of the score located on some desk someplace, or nothing is to be found, and the release won't happen at all :(

Would not surprise me if the Zimmer - "popularity" goes down a little after this ... it certainly did for me ! (Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about this release causing the Zimmer-popularity to drop, but the fact that he refuses to even help out on getting his older scores released.)

Nevertheless, a big thanks to Perseverance Records for doing this release. Remember, only 2000 copies available, so don't wait too long before you buy it ! :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
That's it guys !! :D

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
Whoehoe :D This is great!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
I......Want.......This.

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
ORDERED. I really hope this sounds significantly better than the bootleg. The samples on the site sound rather disappointing...

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