Main Themes by Hans Zimmer Music Produced by Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe Music Composed by Lorne Balfe
Additional Music: Mark Mancina, Nick Phoenix, Thomas Bergersen, Dave Metzger, Jacob Shea, Noah Sorota & Atli Örvarsson Additional Arranging & Programming: Bart Hendrickson, Clay Duncan, Ryeland Allison, Andrew Kawczynski & Tom Broderick Music Editor: Daniel Pinder Music Production Services: Steven Kofsky Music Supervisor: Tom Broderick Score Wrangler: Bob "call me old fashioned" Badami
Music Mixed by Alan Meyerson Additional Engineering: Katia Lewin Palomo, Slamm Andrews & Jeff Biggers Assistant Engineer Adam Schmidt Production Coordinator for Hans Zimmer: Andrew Zack Music Mixed at Remote Control Productions, Inc.
Release date : 06/01/2010
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I have never seen a soundtrack like this,Hans Zimmer is a genious.Opening theme,Gulag,Going Loud andi can't believe it.Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare serie will not be forgotten.Edmund Meinerts it is the best album but you must be deaf bf fanboy :)
MusoTim
2017-03-18 16:30:40
Did zimmer do the whole game ? I thought Balfe did ?
Mike (OTM)
2017-03-18 17:34:43
The music we know Zimmer did for sure is "Opening Titles." I have a sneaking suspicion he also worked on "Extraction Point." But the rest of the music is Lorne Balfe, with help from a whole slew of additional composers:
Atli Örvarsson Noah Sorota Mark Mancina Dave Metzger Nick Phoenix Thomas Bergersen Jacob Shea
Given all those names, I guess we'll never know just how much of this score is really Balfe and how much influence the other people had, though.
trent easton navarro
2017-03-18 20:37:13
If you think this is the best album ever, you must not have heard many soundtracks.
Now don't get me wrong, it's lots of fun and contains some kick ass moments (The last minute of Extraction Point, holy shit!) But this probably wouldn't even crack my top 1000
trent easton navarro
2017-03-18 20:45:02
Also, this album doesn't even do this score justice. The complete score bootleg is the way to go with this one
Edmund Meinerts
2017-03-18 22:15:39
No BF fanboy here. Not a fan of first person shooters in general. I like RPGs and RTSs. And nope, this score wouldn't make my top 1000 either. It's incredibly average.
Mike (OTM)
2017-03-19 00:03:37
Really true, @trent. All the tracks here are awkwardly compressed, which makes for some weird listening at times ("Extraction Point," "Contingency," and others just sound kinda "squashed" compared to the full versions).
Not to mention that most of the in-mission music is missing. This album is like...theme ideas (and poorly presented theme ideas), not much else. A shame, cause a lot of the individual moments in the game are really good. I'd love a better release for this one.
Infinity
2017-03-25 12:34:53
Fox Three you right mate,i love all of this soundtrack,Lorne Balfe and Hans Zimmer did a good job.Soap,Price,Ghost etc. memourable team,good scenario,best graphics and this soundtracks.This game and this soundtrack will not be forgotten.R.I.P. Simon Ghost Riley.And the gulag scene ohh my god !
i had the track deadline playing in my head this morning and i had to listen to it again. it made me realize how some of these cues are a real part of my life and what they mean to me. i was in college, with no goal in mind and the freedom to do whatever with my life. this particular track had so much meaning for me...
this soundtrack, among other things, were driving factors in my life. i am so glad to be part of the journey and i hope Hans and music composers know that their work is truly greatly appreciated.
Sarah Schachner confirmed that she is the composer for the next Modern Warfare.
manny manfred
2019-06-02 15:56:31
A woman does not understand the feeling of war. I think it's a wrong choice, I can imagine that the game will be a failure again.
Soroush
2019-06-02 16:12:33
I mean ... she has composed for the most recent game of Infinity Wards (Infinite Warfare) and I'm not gonna say it was bad although it wasn't perfect either. So even with the fact that she has composed already for the series not so long ago, I believe there were much better choises. Maybe they did contact composers such as Lorne Balfe but maybe they were busy at the moment which isn't a surprise at all.
nvictor
2019-06-02 16:17:01
> A woman does not understand the feeling of war. I think it's a wrong choice, I can imagine that the game will be a failure again.
geez, this is 2019... a lady is equally fit to score a war game. language has no gender and if music is communication why should music worry about gender?
Soroush
2019-06-02 16:25:43
Another thing is that, a person mentions Balfe in twitter about his work in MW2 and he asks Lorne if he will be scoring another game. And Lorne replies: "Funny enough ... coming soon" I suppose the game he is talking about isn't call of duty. It is also possible that we might see a collaboration between him and Schachner. Everything is possible, isn't it?
nvictor
2019-06-02 16:37:32
i love what i am hearing from her: *** EDITED ***
Hybrid Soldier
2019-06-02 16:58:44
manny manfred that has to be the stupidest comment I have ever read on this website in the past 14 years. And I've seen many. Next time, don't feel like you have to share your genius mind with us...
Soroush
2019-06-02 18:10:02
>nvictor I never said that she is not a good composer. I love her music on many many games and movies (Assassin's Creed Unity, Call of Duty MW3 and so on ...) I'm just saying that just for the sake of variety it would be more exciting to see other composers score this game.
Mephariel
2019-06-02 19:24:47
Sarah Schachner is an excellent composer and has scored other action games like Anthem.
ThePhantasm
2019-06-02 19:27:32
Oh wtf man such a terrible choice she’s never impressed me with her music at all another trash Call of duty soundtrack. Shit hasn’t been good since MW2 why didn’t they reach out to balfe.
Backbiter
2019-06-02 21:48:52
Imagine being offended and angry in 2019 because a woman is composing the next game in the call of duty franchise. Lmao. personally i think that she did a fine job in Infinite War although the main theme sounds too similar to Dinobot Charge by Jablonsky.
superultramegaa
2019-06-02 22:02:00
The Call of Duty scores have always been 25% highlight tracks with 75% mediocre, nondescript ambiance, and generic electronic percussion with string chords. Whether it was Harry Gregson, Stephen Barton, or Hans Zimmer and Lorne Balfe, that has always been the same. Stop pretending like this franchise has a unique voice that no one else can replicate. These scores are as generic Hollywood as you can get.
Sarah Schachner's scores are generic too, but at least she has more interesting soundscapes. Plus her action from Anthem is often just a more stylized version of the Call of Duty "style" anyway. It's not interesting, but it's about as interesting as every other soundtrack in this genre.
Soroush
2019-06-02 22:47:41
> superultramegaa Bear in mind my friend that this is utterly subjective. It might be nondescript to you but to me, it's not. Listen to MW3 soundtrack. Every single track has its own language and none of them include "generic electronic percussion with string chords". Yes, the franchise doesn't have a specific voice dedicated to it and it's due to the fact that the stories are rather different, so were the composers. But Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Stephen Barton, David Buckley, Brian Tyler, Harry Gregson-Williams, Sarah Schachner ... all these people had their own astonishing language to express the voice we are talking about, some of which I enjoyed much more. So the conclusion is that it has never been generic. Just compare Sarah Schachner's "Assassin's Creed Unity" to "COD Infinite Warfare".
superultramegaa
2019-06-02 23:42:54
I know it's my own opinion. That's why I expressed it. COD has a general musical language that Brian Tyler and others slightly altered, but it still always has the same elements I mentioned.
None of it sounds distinct to me, and almost always uses the same general instruments. Some composers try to stylize it more than others but at the end of the day, it's the same general formula.
Knight
2019-06-03 00:23:58
You must not have heard Jack Wall's scores for the Black Ops series if you think that they all sound the same.
nvictor
2019-06-03 00:45:24
Soroush, i am sorry but my reply was for manny. all you did is making me discover this talented composer lol
private hybird
2019-06-03 03:44:39
I did not make any gender discrimination, some people here are very prejudiced and think that every comment he makes is correct. This is my opinion and you must respect it. I've been playing games for years and I've listened to the music of most female composers and I don't like it at all. Yes, I respect every composer (male / female), but I don't like it, it's my opinion. I think female composers should make music for romantic movies because they're better at romantic film music. This game will be completely messed up. The company sank, and they need money, so they had to resurrect this series. (Modern Warfare)
HunterTech
2019-06-03 04:07:07
Someone hasn't heard Shirley Walker, I see.
Mephariel
2019-06-03 05:37:56
@ private hybird
I don't have to respect your opinion. Your opinion is ridiculous. There are plenty of female composers who can score action films and games and there are plenty of male composers who can score romantic movies. You are entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't make it any less ludicrous.
Edmund Meinerts
2019-06-03 08:46:18
Jesus fucking Christ, private hybrid. You sound like someone from 1957 got access to an Internet connection somehow.
Another thing is that, a person mentions Balfe in twitter about his work in MW2 and he asks Lorne if he will be scoring another game. And Lorne replies: "Funny enough ... coming soon" I suppose the game he is talking about isn't call of duty. It is also possible that we might see a collaboration between him and Schachner. Everything is possible, isn't it?
There are rumours that the next game of the franchise is going to be a reboot of Modern Warfare series(the game will be revealed on May 30). It was supposed to be called "Modern Warfare 4" but sources are pointing out that since it's a reboot and not a continuation, it will be called "Modern Warfare" again. All these aside, I'm excited to find out who is gonna be the composer for this game. Hans, Lorne or maybe Harry?
manny manfred
2019-05-28 12:07:16
Hans is very busy. I want Stephen Barton and Harry to get a team again or Lorne will be good selection.
Knight
2019-05-28 16:36:18
I think it will be Lorne. https://twitter.com/Lornebalfe/status/1132870228675895296?s= 19
Randy Watson
2019-05-28 18:46:43
Is this reboot shit also gonna start with games now?
Anyway, loved all three scores of the series (although Zimmer's and Balfe's not in this version) so curious who'll take on the new one
Sam Whitacre
2019-05-28 19:34:41
Oh, God. Is that why Lorne Balfe's gonna score Six Underground after Modern Warfare 2?
ThePhantasm
2019-05-29 06:09:31
i would die and go to heaven if Lorne is back doing modern warfare. What he did for call of duty has not been topped in my opinion. I pray to God he's doing it, we need that sound in COD again. It needs to feel like a summer blockbuster
JoePeters
2019-05-31 09:46:37
Balfe should do another Call of Duty .He wrote some of the best music in game music I heard
Does Two Steps From Hell compose things like this?
MacArthur
2013-09-20 19:25:37
Very possible they do compose for film trailers, and the video game music is similar in the way it's written, whereas film score is a little less repetitive
Macejko
2013-09-20 19:38:18
You have, like, zero idea what you are talking about, MacArthur. It appears to me that you just put random words together and hope they'll make something that resembles a sentence. There is just no way - NO WAY - Two Steps From Hell will compose a score for a videogame. Ever.
MacArthur
2013-09-20 20:01:07
And you know this because..................Oh wait you don't.
MacArthur
2013-09-20 20:12:54
What I was saying was a GUESS. Mike was wondering if they would do a video game score and I said it's POSSIBLE. Because if they were paid enough money I'm sure they would do it.
Macejko
2013-09-20 20:16:15
With that definition - would you also say it's "very possible" for Ennio Morricone to score Avengers 2?
JackieStewart
2013-09-20 20:27:35
MacArthur, you really need to stop. Your comments are getting very annoying. Behave yourself a little bit more, please...
MacArthur
2013-09-21 02:00:24
Ennio Morricone If he was offered. again it also has to do with who the director wants to do the picture. I took a GUESS and said it was a possibility. I did not say it was going to happen Heck....Zimmer could score Avengers 2. Like I said it is just the Director's choice.
Also if you don't like our conversations you don't have to say anything. Mike and I were having a conversation if you don't like what I have to say, just don't comment on it. we are talking about music composer's and possible music composer's. From what I'm grasping that's what we are supposed to comment on right.
And if you don't like the way I type, or have a problem with what I say, Get a life. Because I'm allowed to have an opinion as well. that is what this site is for.
Macejko
2013-09-21 11:24:05
You don't understand. Guesses don't work this way. They need to be based on something logical, but yours wasn't. You just pulled a random name out of your ass and said it was "very possible for them to score Call of Duty" because "they do compose for film trailers, and the video game music is similar in the way it's written, whereas film score is a little less repetitive". What kind of guess is that? You could put there literally any trailer music group (Audiomachine, X-Ray Dog, Immediate Music...) and the result would be the same.
Picture this dialogue: x - Anyone knows who will compose a score for The Avengers 2? Y - I guess it's very possible for Ennio Morricone to do it. X - How do you know that? Y - Well, he composes film music, doesn't he?
You've done the same damn thing. It wasn't offensive or harming in any way, it was just incredibly stupid.
MacArthur
2013-09-21 17:08:16
Like I said It was possible. But I understand that there are hundreds of film composer's. I'm Just saying that of all of the Hundreds Two steps from hell would be seriously cool.
Heck, Like I said. Zimmer Could come back and score this game. I don't know.
I was trying to engage in a conversation with Mike, cause also if you didn't know other topics can come out of these conversations and I think it was rude of you to just come in and say your "stupid" or an "a**" you know if you have a problem leave it alone.
You don't have to comment on something if you don't like it.
Mike
2013-09-21 17:41:56
Not to depart from the original topic, but MacArthur makes a good point: as scared as I am of this idea, Zimmer COULD score Avengers 2. I thought for sure he wouldn't be attached to a Marvel film, but then we got the Spider-Man news.
Macejko
2013-09-21 18:01:51
Well, Silvestri's score (and his Captain America score) was by far the worst piece of superhero music I have ever heard, so I would be glad if Hans (or practically anyone from RCP) did it instead of him.
Mike
2013-09-21 18:30:55
I liked the old-school style of Captain America. We got a fanfare march. That just doesn't happen anymore. But The Avengers was insanely forgettable. I almost always notice the music while I watch a movie, but I don't remember any of what was in there.
MacArthur
2013-09-21 19:30:48
Agreed! Captain America, I enjoyed it and Thought that the Fanfare was Totally America. It was a nice score. The Avengers though I thought was very good as well. (I have the Soundtrack)
MacArthur
2013-09-21 21:16:42
You know I said Two steps from Hell Because they also did the Vietnam Documentary It's a war film and a couple of all the guys who did that did some sort of Video Game
Mike
2013-09-22 14:28:48
And they did music in this very game... :P
MacArthur
2013-09-22 16:56:02
Yep.....:P
Edmund Meinerts
2013-09-22 18:41:42
Some of the things you say, Macejko...I mean, Silvestri's Captain America and Avengers scores were admittedly forgettable outside of their main themes, but worst superhero music ever? Honestly?
And MacArthur, you're a damned fool.
Macejko
2013-09-22 19:50:13
I seriously cannot think of a worse example than those two, Edmund. I've seen pretty much every modern superhero movie there is, and I've heard their scores, too. Silvestri is a bloody good composer, capable of creating great themes and soundtracks overall, but his Avengers and Captain are a total travesty in my opinion. Only the main theme of the Avengers is more or less good.
Mike
2013-09-22 21:05:11
I didn't like Batman and Robin's score. The theme was okay, IF you could totally remove it from the awful film and view it as a piece of music. I found that difficult.
Ds
2013-09-22 21:30:02
Agree with Macejko here. The Avengers score was just dull. Given that Marvel have no idea what "musical continuity" means, it's very possible they pick up Hans for Avengers 2.
As a fanboy i'd be delighted. Batman? Zimmer. Superman? Zimmer. Spiderman? Zimmer. Avengers? Zimmer. It would be another proof that he's still the king of modern filmmusic :p
Btw, the official website for "Captain America 2" has a track by Henry Jackman, it sounds pretty good imo.
Mike
2013-09-22 22:12:03
I'm still seriously of the opinion that Zimmer should be the designated DC guy, but stay the heck away from Marvel. lol. But yes, Marvel has no idea what musical continuity is.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-09-22 22:25:46
@Ds - that is exactly what I don't want to have happen. It was bad enough in the early 2000s when Danny Elfman was doing practically every comic book movie that came out...but Zimmer is starting to develop this really annoying ultimate monopoly on superhero scores. I don't even think he's that good at them to be honest, and yeah, obviously that won't be a very popular opinion here, but I just don't particularly like his brooding pounding non-thematic approach. When he occasionally breaks out of that shell into something a bit more heroic and emotional ("Like a Dog Chasing Cars" or "An Ideal of Hope"), I like it, but for the most part it seems very mono-mood and, honestly, dull. Silvestri's more old-fashioned scores for Avengers and Captain America are nowhere near what those movies deserved (I mean, look at what an awesome score he did for that awful Sylvester Stallone Judge Dredd movie), but they're refreshing if for no other reason than they aren't afraid to go for some propely heroic brass fanfare. Real brass, not that synth crap Zimmer is obsessed with lately.
So, long story short, if Zimmer gets hired on Avengers 2, I'll...I'll...scream with impotent rage. And start a petition or something. :p
Mike
2013-09-22 22:57:07
I agree, Edmund. Zimmer has shown that he can write something big and heroic, but he insists on being a minimalist and having people "earn their themes". I get the idea, but I feel like he may be taking comic book films a little TOO seriously. I also agree that he's gotten a monopoly on the genre. Still, I like his Batman music a lot and would say Man of Steel was good for the most part--though its use in the film left a lot to be desired.
Mike
2013-09-22 23:09:09
I guess part of my appreciation of Zimmer's Batman music particularly is that I really like this incarnation of Batman, and I feel that the music Zimmer wrote nails said incarnation (even if the insistence on minimalism was sometimes aggravating and some of his music for the villains was just obnoxious). They totally could have used the awesome part of "Like a Dog Chasing Cars" in the Pruitt Building scenes, but no, they went and used a cue similar to "Train Fight". I was disappointed when I saw the movie and found the former piece unused.
Speaking of that, that is certainly something I would say Zimmer superhero scores could work on--villain themes. The Joker theme was "something Hans wanted us to really hate", and it fit the film despite its near-unbearableness to listen to, so I'd actually give that one a pass, but I felt like a lot of the music for Bane was just...ugly. Muscular and no-nonsense, but not great as a listening experience except on occasion. And the music for Zod and the Kryptonians in Man of Steel was rather generic. Bad? No. Great? No. It could have been a lot more.
MacArthur
2013-09-23 01:26:06
Disagree about man of steel. and Edmund you are a fool because Zimmer actually does use brass I talked to one one my friend's who is a horn player in an orchestra and he said that the way Zimmer uses his horns is possible. And the use of the man of steel music in the film I thought made it a lot better.
Now granted I don't want Zimmer doing every Superhero movie that there is but for the majority of composers that are out there I think that Zimmer or one of his people would do it best. And Zimmer's superhero scores have been amazing. and I don't expect anything less of Amazing spider-man.
MacArthur
2013-09-23 01:29:15
And for a little additional info, Richard Watkins is Zimmer's Horn Player.
El Baradei
2013-09-23 09:50:02
Nerd talk
Mike
2013-09-23 16:10:56
Amazing how this went from COD to superheroes. lol.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-09-23 21:40:17
Yes, Zimmer uses real brass players but he then "overdubs" them with his original samples and ends up drowning out whatever organic tone was there in the first place. At that stage it sounds so fake that he may as well never have bothered with the orchestra in the first place. Save a bit of money that way.
The sad thing is, most people probably can't even tell the difference.
MacArthur
2013-09-24 00:50:24
That's kinda the point cause Zimmer is the Father of mixing Synth and Real Instruments in movies. so all the things that he does with the brass is Real and I don't think sounds like a Sample. I listen to John Williams A lot and find a lot of similar stuff in terms of the horn so in reality there really is no difference at all.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-09-24 11:27:17
So you're saying the brass in, say, Williams' Superman theme vs. Zimmer's "Ideal of Hope" cues sounds exactly the same? You can't hear how thin and tinny and, frankly, cheap Zimmer's sounds in comparison? And I'm fine with him being the pioneer of mixing synth and orchestra or whatever. He's done some amazing work in that field. But what I don't like is when he uses synth to cover up the existing orchestral performances. IMO you should only use electronics to produce sounds or tones that you couldn't get using an orchestra. John Powell gets that; you can always tell what's what in his scores, and I love it. It's what makes his music so colorful.
Mike
2013-09-24 15:23:36
What Edmund said.
MacArthur
2013-09-24 16:56:43
How to Train Your Dragon was all samples just FYI. and Believe it or not, yes Zimmer's brass in Man Of steel was real and is definitely possible. Now they didn't sound the same, but it's all on how the horn player play's it. I have studied music for a long time and believe me it is possible. Williams Horn Player's don't attack or put as much hard breath into it whereas Zimmer's Players put sharp breath's into it (Therefore Creating the BRAAAAM). Or Sharp and tinny sound as you say. that's why he uses Watkins one of the best horn player's in the WORLD.
MacArthur
2013-09-24 17:06:27
I see that he does use synths in the music but I don't get how or why you say that it "overdubs" cause he doesn't. He uses a main thing and he knows not to over ride that.
And Also another score by Powell that was all Samples. was the Bourne scores and I quite frankly thought that those were some of his best scores (Also Read The Zimmer Article). so stop complaining about samples and the thing that I definitely know that when Zimmer does sample he always uses real people and records them (Martin Tillman) then uses his program to mix it and put it on screen. so even on his program you can hear in essence a concert hall. Get it.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-09-24 22:14:13
I really don't think you have a clue what you're talking about, MacArthur. Powell's Bourne scores were most definitely not done with only samples; there's plenty of drum loops and synths in there, but the strings are real orchestral strings. You can tell because they sound, for lack of a better word, "meaty" - you can never quite get the same sound out of samples.
Although I do agree that some of the brass in How to Train Your Dragon sounds like synth at times (one of the very, very few bad things I have to say about that otherwise phenomenal score), but at others it sounds very organic and "real".
As for Zimmer, you act like I'm denying he uses live players; I'm not. His soloists, Martin Tillman's cello for example, are obviously live recordings. But just listen to the Sketchbook from Man of Steel (which is all samples) and compare it with the same music in the actual cues from the score, which allegedly contain the real orchestra. I can't tell the difference, can you? And that's because he overdubs the orchestra with his samples. It's a well-known fact that he does this (so stop denying it), and it bugs me because it makes his scores sound low-budget and cheap when there's no reason for it to. Even by the standards of today's samples (which are quite high - just listen to Jeremy Soule or Two Steps From Hell), Zimmer's just don't sound as good. And I bet it's intentional, I bet it's because Zimmer gets so used to the sound of his music on his own keyboard mockups (like the sketchbook) that he doesn't want to change it at all. And I don't like it one bit.
MacArthur
2013-09-25 02:15:55
Now I agree about the Sketchbook. but When It comes to his string samples his do sound real believe me. I have done and been in orchestra hall's and Zimmer's sounds real.
Powell's drums especially in the Bourne 3 In the track "waterloo" those drums are samples and Zimmer's Stuff even though it is samples as you say. it does sound quite real and I think it sounds more real that two steps from hell (The track "Fill my heart) Zimmer's Sketchbook sounds more real than that. Now granted I like them Both. But I can tell the difference. and I think Zimmer's are better and more real sounding and he has adapted to the modern sound better than any composer in my opinion. (In a sense he pioneered it with the Batman Scores. (Read Dark Knight Booklet). So that's why in my opinion Zimmer is the best.
Casey
2013-09-25 08:59:56
MacArthur, just stop with your subjective "facts" and ill-informed critique. "They sound real, believe me." Who is to say that something sounds real because you happen to say so? Honestly, man, give it a rest, geez...
Hybrid - a little housework is needed here bigtime!
MacArthur
2013-09-25 17:33:52
What You don't seem to get is they are not subjective. I'm backing Zimmer's because people slam his use of synths and I've had concert hall experience and I say it sounds real.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-09-25 23:57:07
I've played in a fair few orchestras myself and I say it sounds fake. We're going in circles.
MacArthur
2013-09-25 23:59:35
We'll Just have to agree to disagree then. No Big deal, you have your opinion and I have mine.
Just One Question if you don't like Zimmer why do you follow him.
Macejko
2013-09-26 00:15:22
This will no doubt come as a surprise for you, MacArthur, but liking or loving somebody else's work doesn't mean you have to worship every single thing they do, or every single aspect of said thing. And Zimmer is not Jesus nor is this Twitter, so nobody follows him. (and don't you dare ask me if I'm a catholic or any similar "doesn't-make-a-sense" question, or I'm gonna loose it)
Blu
2013-09-26 05:47:55
@ Macejko
"...liking or loving somebody else's work doesn't mean you have to worship every single thing they do, or every single aspect of said thing."
+1
MacArthur
2013-09-26 07:03:16
I don't use this as "Twitter". I use it to create my point, and I think mine was a good one. You just happened to Disagree. I don't worship Zimmer, and I wasn't going to ask you if you are catholic cause obviously you haven't shown it (Hence calling me an a**). And I don't Necessarily like everything Zimmer has done. If you think that, you're an idiot. Most of his stuff I find very good I think that he is the best film composer out there and that is my opinion. (The Lion King I didn't Think was that great.) I think that Crimson Tide should have won before that one did. So your Info about me and everything you assume about me is false.
MacArthur
2013-09-26 07:05:38
And The question I was asking is why are you on here if you don't like Zimmer. and I didn't say that you had to WORSHIP him either.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-09-26 09:01:25
I do like Zimmer. A lot of his music I absolutely adore. But that doesn't mean I think every score he does or every choice he makes is a good one.
al bundy
2013-09-26 12:25:24
I miss the good old times without MacArthur around.
Edmund Meinerts
2013-09-26 12:36:12
Funny, that's what they said in Korea in the 50s too.
JackieStewart
2013-09-26 13:56:51
I miss those times too...
MacArthur
2013-09-26 17:41:14
Actually the thing about MacArthur In Korea was a very bad decision. (Not a lot of time to go into it)
but I do get what you say about some of ZImmer's decisions some I don't care for either.
Bundy you're just being annoying. You haven't said anything worthwhile accept say they are stupid or wishing people would leave. we are actually talking about Zimmer and his music choices. If anything I think we ALL even Me need to work on communication. and not just slamming people for having an opinion.
MacArthur
2013-09-26 17:44:59
1 more quick thing without MacArthur, You'd be speaking Japanese right now.
eXe
2013-09-26 17:57:35
Learn some english grammar, Mac.
MacArthur
2013-09-26 18:09:45
What did I say that was not good english?
MacArthur
2013-09-26 18:19:08
Never Mind I get you eXe.
anton
2013-10-24 19:49:38
Looks like the composers are daniel clem and rick sakruai
LJL
2014-09-21 08:13:53
IT's like they took all the toxicity on the site and just compressed it into this thread. Amount of rudeness and namecalling is brainnumbing.
RealFfingMusic
2014-09-22 10:59:12
You noticed that just yesterday?
Check out the G I R L page!
Backbiter
2018-10-14 05:11:39
I come here from time to time to have a good laugh
Edmund Meinerts
2018-10-14 22:02:42
Macarthur really was a legend, wasn't he? Good times :') (not really)
Call of duty modern warfare has ,by far, the best soundtrack of any video game ever made hands down. I give all of my childhood joy credit to mister Hans Zimmer. Thank you for making my childhood what it was. Much love, peace out.(;
Backbiter
2018-08-11 05:26:41
pffffff... I think that there are far superior videogame soundtracks to this generic RCP Score. It's fun listening experience i'll give you that.
Macejko
2018-08-11 13:20:20
Best videogame score ever made is John Debney's LAIR. MW2 doesn't even fit my Top 10.
Backbiter
2018-08-11 16:52:47
Medal of Honor: Frontline by Michael Giacchino it's one of the best for me.
Anonymous
2018-08-13 01:00:59
I go with Lair and Outcast as most favorite.
And also the Blizzard games music like Word Of Warcraft, StarCraft and Heroes of The Storm
superultramegaa
2018-08-13 04:00:29
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is by far on top for me. It feels like the ultimate culmination of Jeremy Soule's work on the the series along with symphony-level quality for the town and exploration music.
Mephariel
2018-08-13 04:05:48
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, Returns and Tropical Freeze.
Edmund Meinerts
2018-08-13 10:20:45
Gonna have to chip in for Skyrim as well, although I'm biased because I used to put hundreds of hours into that game :p
Oscar Araujo's music for the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow games is pretty good, as well as Geoff Knorr and his team's work on the last few Civ games.
Macejko
2018-08-13 11:48:44
I agree with Araujo and Knorr wholeheartedly. Cannot say the same for Soule; I always found his music lackluster and unfocused, sans the main theme of course. I'd like to mention my first runner-up, which is Destiny: Rise of Iron alongside Destiny 2. I was never a huge fan of the first two scores (original game + the first expansion), but the moment a guy named Rotem Moav got on Salvatori's team, the music became incredible (even though I have no evidence that those two events are related). Nevertheless, since it's stylistically so different from old-school and symphonic LAIR, I'd probably name it my No.1 alongside it.
If you guys are looking for recommendations, be sure to check these out: The Witcher 3 (Marcin Przybyłowicz, Mikolai Stroinski, and a band called Percival), LotRO: Riders of Rohan (Chance Thomas), Assassin's Creed IV (Brian Tyler), Alone In The Dark (Olivier Deriviére), Eagle Flight (Inon Zur), Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius (Noriyasu Agematsu), Ni No Kuni I/II (Joe Hisaishi), and of course Medal of Honor and Gears of War IV by Ramin ;)
Hybrid Soldier
2018-08-13 12:28:49
Guys... Video Game music didn't start in 2008... lol
Your little game is actually impossible... It's pretty much like trying find "what is the best film score of all time"...
Edmund Meinerts
2018-08-13 14:08:28
But the best film score of all time is Lord of the Rings... :>
superultramegaa
2018-08-13 16:32:15
Lord of the Rings (and even The Hobbit), are the only film scores that I'm buying an entire book for, just to fully understand the themes and motifs.
Mike
2018-08-13 16:43:35
Can I just add, the album presentation for MW2 is really lame? It's a big, dare I say "epic" score in the 1990s Media Ventures mold. I think it's really solid. There are lots of different ideas from the first mission to the last, and a lot of them are written in the power anthem style that Hans ans co. don't really use much these days. Even Opening Titles is a throwback for Hans himself.
Unfortunately, almost none of the music as heard through the game is here. Instead, we got a bunch of shortened theme suites. :P
But the Gulag mission, the oil rig stuff, The Enemy of My Enemy, and lots of other missions all have pretty engaging and powerful music. I wish the RCP guys would do scores like this one more.
Peter
2018-08-13 17:26:11
Best film score of all time in lion king. Without any doubt. ;-)
Peter
2018-08-13 17:26:55
IS * lion king
Macejko
2018-08-13 20:44:25
Not really a fair comparison, Hybrid, since videogames as a medium are much younger than films, and their scores weren't using real orchestras right until... mid 90's, would be my guess (feel free to correct me, guys).
The all time best film score for me would be a battle between The Last Samurai and Lion King. If "movie" includes TV shows, then it's Game of Thrones without a doubt, but I'm not gonna have this argument again ;)
Btw. I wouldn't mention Hobbit in the same sentence with LotR, even music-wise. A couple of great cues cannot hide the fact that Shore's heart wasn't in it.
superultramegaa
2018-08-13 21:22:52
The Lion King and The Last Samurai are good choices, but I'm not as much of a fan as Zimmer's aesthetic or thematic work nearly as much as Howard Shore, or even Jablonskly at times. Game of Thrones I still can't comment on as I've never watched the show, or payed attention to Djawadi in general.
I would say Shore's heart wasn't in Desolation and Five Armies, but to say that about Unexpected Journey doesn't really feel right to me. Even themes like Gondor Restored and Nazgul's uses have some logic to them.
Gondor Restored was also used when the Ring is destroyed, meaning it also has a secondary meaning of victory against evil, (yes I know it affected Gondor too, but Gondor it isn't as direct). Which also applies in The Hobbit, as Bilbo saving Thorin was not only important for their relationship but also the future of Middle Earth as Thorin is vital to the battle against the orcs in Five Armies.
The Nazgul theme also makes sense as its first appearance is in Fellowship's opening, playing over Sauron's army of orcs, then Sauron himself. So it's linked both to Sauron himself and his servants, which includes Azog. Plus the version that plays in the film is the exact same variant (and lyrics) that plays in the Fellowship prologue. It serves almost as a precursor to the Nazgul. Plus I don't see why themes can't have several meanings anyway.
Plus I love most of the new themes of AUJ (before they were abandoned in later films).
mpolonest123
2018-08-13 22:12:11
@superultramega Honestly I feel like most of the issues with AUJ (and the other two hobbit films) were stemming from Peter Jackson editing the hell out of the music after the fact. It could be why they ended up dumping some themes in the following films.
Still, I don’t understand some of the criticism that the Hobbit trilogy scores received. DoS has some of the best action material imo, and the interpolations of Smaug’s theme(s) throughout the films are personally some of my favorite music from any LoTR project.
And this might be controversial, but I would put PoTC (the first three at least) on the level of Lord of the Rings in terms of the sheer amount of themes and development they receive. Maybe not quite as complex but they shouldn’t be overlooked.
Mephariel
2018-08-13 22:28:02
Lord of the Rings - Shore Battlestar Galactica - McCreary
Both are up there as my two favorite collection of works. GOT doesn't even compare to BSG.
For solo albums, my candidates are:
Titanic The Lion King Interstellar Memoirs of a Geisha Jurassic Park
Ro
2018-08-14 13:34:31
Track 11, Onwards, here is my most favorite cue from the CoH franchise. It has that old school "power anthem" thing going on about it with full force. I truly wish this style is brought back to life again soon.
Mike
2018-08-14 15:19:43
Indeed, this score reminds me — in a good way — of The Rock.
Call of Duty MW2 is the best album ever of all times!
Edmund Meinerts
2016-09-19 08:38:54
Yeah...no, no it's not. Sorry.
Yankee
2017-03-18 14:23:42
Yes you right mate,but Edmund Meinerts may be deaf.Just Opening Theme already kicks all other soundtracks.Hans Zimmer is a genious man.
Trident Six
2017-09-13 12:22:10
I marked Edmund Meinerts house with smoke,airstrike is coming xd THE BEST VIDEOGAME SOUNDTRACK,I HAD EARGAZM LIKE YOU MAN.I'M THE MOST HAPPIEST PERSON IN THE WORLD.HANS ZIMMER YOU ARE THE GOD OF MUSIC COMPOSERS.Sorry for my bed English.
I have eargazm,Black Hawk Down soundtrack and this Modern Warfare 2 soundtrack is the best ! Every soundtrack in this album is perfect.I can't describe it with words.I'm promoted to most happiest person in the world with this soundtrack. R.I.P. Ghost...
Captain Price,Soap MacTavish,Ghost and the other heros.The best FPS game of all time.Thank you Hans Zimmer for making this perfect soundtrack !We will not forget Modern Warfare 2! -The best selling FPS game of all time.The father of all fps games !
Best video game soundtrack,memourable team,realistic weapons,best scenario(World War III),multiplayer,special ops mode and this perfect soundtrack.I don't know how can he compose this soundtrack but i had multiple eargazm since 2009(release date of Modern Warfare 2)
Zimmer's Opening Title track is really an underrated gem of the last decade as far as themes he's written go. It harkens back to his 90's sound, a la The Rock, and presents a genuine, tuneful, heroic theme that I wish he'd revisit. It's awesome. Much more interesting to me than his "take a couple notes and see what you cab do with them" approach he's started since working with Chris Nolan.
Mike
2016-08-03 16:45:22
I quite agree. I'd love to hear Zimmer do an action movie and write a theme like he did for MW2, but I really doubt he'll do that. This was already 7 years ago. He's moved on in his style. :( I don't mind his new style, but a throwback would be cool.
I'm sorry if this has been discussed here before, but it would be cool to get a definitive answer to this question to clear up something I've been curious about forever:
Did Hans have a hand in the "Extraction Point" theme? One, it has always struck me as *sounding* particularly Hans-like (along with "Code of Conduct"...). Two, the cover says, "Main ThemeS" by Hans Zimmer, and while we know he did Opening Titles, the word "themes" implies more than one track.
Is there any chance for this score to receive the proper credits?
Edmund Meinerts
2015-09-29 14:15:27
These are the credits as I have them, but I've completely forgotten where I got this information from or whether it's legitimate at all (the lack of any co-composed cues makes me rather suspicious), so take this with a grain of salt:
Since the entire score is just generic RC action music (seriously...it plays like a Directors Cuts album), I find it really hard to tell who did what by ear alone.
Ok so I did a little reading into it, and on some sites they said Hans collaborated with Lorne on some of the tracks as opposed to just producing it. Is this true or is this false a little help if you don't mind.
Cause I hear Balfe use Zimmer's theme in Extraction Point "Code of Conduct and a few other's help.
Ok so here's what i've got. by Hans Zimmer Opening Titles (Hans Zimmer) Extraction Point (Hans Zimmer) Guerrilla Tactics (Hans Zimmer) Code of Conduct (Hans Zimmer) Chain of Command (Hans Zimmer)
MacArthur
2013-08-22 19:03:40
Thats what I've heard and i'm guessing from knowing Zimmer's style
Mike
2013-08-22 23:53:47
Wrong. Only opening titles is Zimmer. Don't believe what iTunes says.
Mike
2013-08-23 03:04:55
Though to be fair, if I had heard that a lot of these tracks were Zimmer and didn't know better, I'd believe it.
MacArthur
2013-08-23 03:27:37
Ok I'm just going by what I heard and the style Zimmer uses is almost exact in the tracks i listed I knew the rest were Balfe
Mike
2013-08-23 14:49:47
It's true. "Code of Conduct" especially is trademark Zimmer, POTC-esque stuff.
MacArthur
2013-08-23 18:21:03
I think the track "Ranger Victory Theme" which is in Extraction Point was Zimmer because that is one of the Main Themes in The game. Of all the Tracks i Listed Zimmer's Themes are all throughout the tracks and used 95% of the time so i would say that these tracks are written by Zimmer and also the track safeguard
Mike
2013-08-23 20:50:34
No, believe me, Zimmer really didn't write much here...
al bundy
2013-08-23 20:59:54
does he ever actually "write"?
Mike
2013-08-23 21:01:39
Yes, he does, but that isn't the topic of this conversation. The topic of this conversation is his involvement with this particular score.
MacArthur
2013-08-24 07:17:09
Ok but like I said it sounded like Zimmer and I know that he didn't do much of this score but i Know that he had some slight involvement in MW2 in the tracks I listed. and I know that he collaborated on this score a little not so much but a little. it's like Lorne on Inception just vise-versa Zimmer doing a little and Lorne Doing the Majority because i do know that on the tracks i listed he did have some involvement.
MacArthur
2013-08-24 07:41:08
This is the only Balfe score that I really think is good. not usually a fan of Balfe cause he repeats himself to much if you do it twice thats fine. but over and over again it gets old. Zimmer I from what i've heard doesn't usually repeat himself more than twice. from all the soundtracks I have of his. and also the way Lorne Orchestrates his music is just not as good as Zimmer's. that is my opinion. Zimmer's is more full than Balfe. another one who has a full sound and doesn't tend to repeat himself is Steve Jablonsky hence my 2 favorite composers. Zimmer is definitely my all time favorite. and for you people who say that he doesn't Compose. of course he does MoS TDKR POTC etc. get a life
MacArthur
2013-08-24 07:47:27
Yes bundy what are you saying that he doesn't write give the score name's.
Mike
2013-08-24 14:54:45
Well see, Zimmer might have given some level of input on the other music (since he was the score producer, he would have layed out the general direction to take with the music as a whole), but I'm pretty sure the only writing Zimmer did on here was the "Opening Titles" piece (which was reprised for a few moments as the closing titles after Nikolai says, "Da, I know a place"--it then segues into Lorne's "Extraction Point" cue). Maybe Hybrid can prove me wrong, but I think Zimmer only did Opening Titles (though Lorne and others occasionally and briefly reused that theme in their own cues). It's like Skylanders. Hans did the theme and gave input to Lorne, but didn't do any of the other composing.
Bioscope
2013-08-24 15:16:19
I think Hans wrote the whole opening titles, and Lorne et al took the opening violin statement played by Noah Sorota and turned it into a recurring motif.
How much did Zimmer have to do with this score as a whole? I get that he composed the main titles, but the end credits list him as the score producer, and sites like iTunes and Dave Metzger's site credit the score to him without Lorne's name attached. So what does it mean, in this case, that Hans produced the score?
Hybrid, do you know who worked on each campaign mission of the game or no?
Hybrid Soldier
2013-05-31 20:51:57
Absolutely... not...
Atli worked on Favela levels...
I know Mancina/Metzger did 3 levels, but not which ones...
It's a complicated case...
Mike
2013-05-31 20:57:25
I don't know about the individual missions, but on this release:
Opening Titles = Hans Zimmer Extraction Point (listed as "Moscow Action" on his site) = Lorne Balfe Retreat and Reveille (listed as "Threat" on his site = Lorne Balfe) Onwards (listed as "Onwards Action" on his site) = Lorne Balfe Chain of Command (listed as "Reload" on his site) = Lorne Balfe Coup de Grace (listed as "Threat Adiago" on his site) = Lorne Balfe
James
2013-05-31 21:23:17
Nick Phoenix did Deadline. Funny because that track sounds completely "90s Zimmer" to me.
Then Noah Sorota apparently did the music while Soap and Roach are climbing up the ice, or some variation on it (it's called "Cliffhanger: Stealth" on his site. It's not on this release though.
I would assume judging from Hybrid's respond that Atli Orvarsson did Guerrilla Tactics. But neither he nor Mark Mancina have any MW2 music on their sites.
Bioscope
2013-05-31 21:54:27
I can't help thinking that Mancina did the Crow's Nest and Ordnance parts of DC, but I might be wrong..
Prott
2013-05-31 23:20:37
I believe Mark Mancina did the snowmobile-escape sequence ("Safeguard") - but again, I have no actual proof. :)
Prott
2013-05-31 23:29:45
Bioscope: I think "Ordinance" sounds like something from Lorne rather than Mancina (mainly because of those short horn-pulses ... he used similar technique in Ironclad, Megamind, The Sweeney and Crysis 2 :) ).
Mike
2013-07-12 01:41:53
Out of curiosity, Prott, what makes you guess that?
Prott
2013-07-12 14:08:50
You mean why I think Mancina did Safeguard? It kind of reminds me of his writing style (mostly in Speed 2).
There's a photo of Brian Tyler, Hans Zimmer, and Christopher Lennertz together. It's neat because they've all worked on a war game (Brian Tyler did MW3, Hans Zimmer did MW2, and Christopher Lennertz did MOH Rising Sun and European Assault). Their styles all are different.
Lucius
2013-05-31 21:34:31
I think Michael Giacchino (sp?) was there too and he did a lot of the old MOH games and the first COD.
Mike
2013-05-31 21:38:33
Michael Giacchino's Medal of Honor scores are some of the best things ever! The Medal of Honor main theme to the original game, "Manor House Rally", "Operation Market Garden", "The Rowhouses", "Arnhem", and "Kleveburg" from Frontline, the theme used in Medal of Honor: Vanguard... :) Ahh, they make those games a joy to play!
Lucius
2013-05-31 21:42:26
Christopher Lennertz's MOHs were great too :)
Mike
2013-05-31 21:45:38
Indeed they were. I didn't have Rising Sun very long. My PS2 broke down shortly after I got the game. :( But I used to just keep European Assault on the main menu and let the theme play. :)
Who thinks COD Ghosts will be composed by an RCP member?
Mike
2013-05-22 08:57:52
Well, two of the Infinity Ward games have been (Harry Gregson Williams and Steve Barton for MW1 and Lorne Balfe and Hans Zimmer for MW2), so I wouldn't be surprised. But there's no way of knowing right now. And besides, MW3 was done by Brian Tyler, not someone from RCP. Either way, I bet a prolific composer will be hired. With the exception of World at War and Black Ops, Hollywood composers have been hired for every COD game since #4.
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