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Thanks Hybrid for explaining that. Makes more sense now.Yes it is because the FYC is horrible... The OST is what Steve & co wrote. The FYC is what came out of the Music Editing Factory, which I don't dig at all. Lots of micro edits & transformations Steve probably didn't even hear... lol<br><br>Real final mixes would look like the OST, not like the FYC...You gotta realize one thing, this score is US recorded so every new 15 min of score you release, you gotta pay back reuse fees. So it's very complicated & costy and that's why they released "only" 15 min of extra score.<br><br>If it was recorded in the UK, they could have released 2 hours of bonus tracks it wouldn't have cost anything more... :)<br><br>As for a chrono order, since all cues are mixed together in different tracks in the OST, it gets complicated... It works like that :<br><br>ARTHUR => Theme Suite + 5m30 + 1m05<br>KINGDOM OF ATLANTIS => 3m20-21<br>IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE => 1m01 + 1m04B<br>ATLANTEAN SOLDIERS => Theme Suite + 5m33 + 2m12<br>WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? => Theme Suite<br>THE LEGEND OF ATLAN => 6m39 + 4m23<br>SWIMMING LESSONS => 3m19 + 3m19B + 3m19C<br>THE BLACK MANTA => Theme Suite + 9m69<br>WHAT COULD BE GREATER THAN A KING? => 7m54 + 7m55 + 7m55A<br>PERMISSION TO COME ABOARD => 9m64 + 2m07<br>SUITED AND BOOTED => 8m57 + 8m59<br>BETWEEN LAND AND SEA => 7m51 + 8m61<br>HE COMMANDS THE SEA => 8m60 + 9m65<br>MAP IN A BOTTLE => 6m42 + 8m56<br>THE RING OF FIRE => 5m29 + 8m62<br>REUNITED => 9m68<br>TRENCH ENGAGED => 7m52<br>MERA MONTAGE => 6m43B + 6m48<br>HOME INVASION => 1m04 + 3m15<br>SAVING POPS => 3m18<br>AHAB WAVES => 3m17 + 2m06B<br>ASK THE SEA => 2m08B<br>OBLIGATION => 5m32<br>DUNES => 5m37-38Heitor Pereira, Satnam Ramgotra and Richard Harvey are credited musiciansSounds like a Zimmer version of the Top Gun Anthem to me. Whoever did it, it works!
me who seldom watch any of these superhero movies and remakes went and saw the new aladdin last weekend.<br><br>based on my own experience of that remake i have come to the conclusion that maybe some of the reviewers are stuck-up and not open-minded? i did enjoy the new takes on some of the songs. the new movie felt like that. a new different movie to me. <br><br>i decided that i will go and watch these movies for myself now. and i would not watch (or listen to original scores) in advance to build up expectation. i will go and enjoy my time and the songs.<br><br>that's all &#175;\_(&#12484;)_/&#175; you can't please everyone.To be honest. I love the bonus score tracks, nut those remixes are a wazte of disc soace in my opinion. I would've rather have 20 extra minutes of score.<br><br>Let the Complete Score come!For everyone that's heard it, is the Deluxe Edition worth a double dip?@Hybrid is this the combination of FYC promotional score + official release by LLL?Use your hybrid skills to unravel the mysteries of the score.
Cuesheet is blank.oh yes please, including Balfe - dont start yelling, Im just really curious who did whatFinally! It would be nice to have composers credits@DT<br>Disney definitely tries to put quality into their projects, which is why I admire them. As youve said, WDAS and Pixar are both churning out some excellent and original films. Even Marvel, despite its formula and flaws, tries new things with the films and stick closely to the source material. <br><br>The problem with the remakes is that they seem to be nothing more than cash-grabs that prey on nostalgia. If you are going to retell a beloved story at least try something different and exciting, instead of trying to copy/paste what everyone has seen.This is where I wish we could edit our comments.<br><br>Not only do you have WDAS doing mostly-new movies (I hesitate to say 'original') but you have Pixar doing them as well. Toy Story 4 was their last sequel for the foreseeable future, with them even eschewing the popular option of doing an Inside Out sequel for original projects.
I feel like people are overreacting in a way that suggests these remakes have far more power than they actually do. The studio that makes them is separate from every other studio. WDAS is still creating new content and will be for many, many years to come, long after the remakes have had their heyday.<br><br>If anything, the proliferation of superhero films is far more likely to drown out originality on that front: there are multiple studios doing it.Order I went with for the album<br><br>Everything I Need (Film Version)<br>Arthur		<br>Home Invasion (Bonus Track)<br>It Wasn't Meant To Be<br>Permission To Come Aboard<br>Ask the&#8239;Sea (Bonus Track)<br>Atlantean Soldiers<br>Ahab Waves (Bonus Track)<br>Saving Pops (Bonus Track)	Soundtrack	0	1<br>Swimming Lessons	<br>Kingdom of Atlantis<br>The Legend of Atlan	<br>The Ring of Fire	<br>What Does That Even Mean?Soundtrack	0	<br>Obligation (Bonus Track)	<br>Dunes (Bonus Track)	<br>Map In a Bottle<br>Mera&#8239;Montage	<br>The Black Manta	<br>Trench Engaged (From Kingdom of the Trench)	Soundtrack	0	<br>Reunited		<br>What Could Be Greater Than a King?<br>Suited and Booted		<br>Between Land and Sea		<br>He Commands the Sea	<br>Ocean To Ocean (feat. Rhea)	<br>Everything I Need		<br>Suited & Booted (Our Empire Remix)<br>The Black Manta (feat. Jim Davies) [Future Funk Squad Remix]<br>Atlantean Soldiers (Glen Nicholls 'March In Formation' Remix)	<br>Kingdom of Atlantis (Glen Nicholls 'Escape to Atlantis' Remix)Same here. The cue I want the most is We Strike First.@Edmund<br>I cant agree enough. These remakes suffer from the issue of being inferior to the original source material, mainly because they rely so heavily on copying the originals so heavily. Im not necessarily against Disney updating their classics if they are willing to do new takes on the material. Take Jungle Book for example; they were able to do something fresh with the concept while keeping elements of the animated film. Even Maleficent, which Im not crazy about, tried something new. <br><br>Another BIG issue Ive noticed is the fact that they lean towards hiring actors who cannot sing, or at least cannot sing on the level required. Emma Watson, Will Smith, Chiwetel Ejiofor, etc.Best shot <br>It wasnt meant to be<br>Home invasion<br>Ahab waves (0:39-end)<br>Permission to come aboard?<br>Ask the sea<br>Ahab waves (0:00-0:38)<br>Saving pops<br>Swimming lessons<br>Kingdom of atlantis<br>Legend of atlan<br>Ring of fire<br>What does that even mean?<br>Ocean to ocean<br>Obligation<br>Dunes<br>Map in a bottle<br>Black manta<br>Mera montage<br>Between land and sea<br>Trench engaged<br>What could be greater than a king?<br>Suited and booted<br>He commands the sea<br>Reunited<br>Everything i need<br><br>"Arthur" and "Atlantean Soldiers" are probably suites
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Hans ZimmerGavin GreenawayHarry Gregson-WilliamsAdam Smalley
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The Peacemaker
Label: Dreamworks Records
Length: 54'43
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
Fans rating:     rate at 1 out of 5 rate at 2 out of 5 rate at 3 out of 5 rate at 4 out of 5 rate at 5 out of 5   2/5 (8928 votes)
  1. Train (13:53)
  2. Devoe's Revenge (5:15)
  3. Sarajevo (8:42)
  4. Chase (17:07)
  5. Peacemaker (9:44)
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UPSer reply Replies: 4 || 2018-04-02 21:45:29
Did Gavin Greenaway wright the melody for Devoe or did he just arrange Hans' theme?


Dawn2018-04-03 00:36:37
That's just my opinion but... If Gavin Greenaway had written the themes for Devoe, shouldn't he be credited for the other cues that contain those themes (Train, Chase, Peacemaker...)?
I think Devoe's Revenge is arranged by Gavin Greenaway, but it's mostly Hans content. Greenaway probably wrote many other tracks for this film (but they're not featured on this release).


Hybrid Soldier2018-04-03 00:51:20
Back in the days crediting worked differently.

If someone arranged a lot of music on a film, he wouldn't necessarly be credited on all those cues, but instead Hans would give them 100% of credit on one of the cues (even if said cue is actually using Hans' music). Like Devoe's Revenge here with Gavin, or Flashback & Fries for NGS on Drop Zone, or I Dreamt I Woke Up for Nick again on Beyond Rangoon.

Nowadays it's a little more realistic, the guy will rather get 25% or 15% or 10% or whatever of all he co-wrote...


Mike (OTM)2018-04-03 17:36:26
Wait, Hybrid, do they actually list those percentages somewhere, or is it a money thing?


Hybrid Soldier2018-04-03 20:22:01
It's rarely listed but on ASCAP or BMI, if let's say you have a Batman V Superman cue listed to Hans (ASCAP) & Andrew K (BMI), you can see that the percentage is 80% for ASCAP, then it's 80% Hans... ;)

If they both are BMI or both are ASCAP, you can't see, cause it'll be 100% for either ASCAP or BMI... lol

And yes, it's mainly a money thing. Percentages kinda depend. Let's just say the "convention" is mostly if an additional did a cue, like almost all of it, it'll be devided 50% / 50% with the main composer, cause the man basically for the additional the job. But sometimes it can be very precise, like 77,5% / 22,5% or whatever. Most of the time Hans will give 1 to 5% to various staff, music editors, a soloist or even a tech guy for he helped design Hans' gear... lol

SPECTER reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-06 15:58:47
8:30 of track 5 "Peacemaker" is absolutely incredible.
Such Emotion, Such Sadness, Such Passion.

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2015-07-15 11:46:25
Another classic from mr.Zimmer!!
I am very glad to own this album too.
Together with Crimson Tide and The Rock, this score complete a favorite trilogy of scores from the 90s".

Adam reply Replies: 3 || 2014-05-03 03:54:37
Expanded release confirmed by LLL! Out on the 20th.


Anonymous2014-05-03 04:31:31
man, i just bought this one recently.... *sigh*


trent easton navarro2014-05-03 14:17:04
Excellent! My fave Zimmer action score. There's so much good stuff missing on the original release. And another bootleg I can toss out


Hispano2014-05-03 14:34:58
I never liked the cover, LLL might have changed this.

badbu reply Replies: 16 || 2013-12-04 11:46:01
never heard :( is it a must have? :)


Ds2013-12-04 12:53:27
I don't think so. If i had discovered it 10 years ago maybe it'd have a special place in my heart. But i discovered it a few months ago and there isn't anything really new in it. It's like a mix of Gladiator, Crimson Tide and a few others, but never as good as they are. Not unpleasing though :-)


Ds2013-12-04 12:54:37
(of course this is just my opinion, judging by the HZimmer.com rating, i guess other people are quite fond of it)


badbu2013-12-04 13:03:27
thanks for the info :)


Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain)2013-12-04 14:28:58
Masterpiece!!!


trent easton navarro2013-12-04 18:17:11
In my opinion one of Zimmer's best action scores. Hope LLL or Intrada will release an expanded version one dat


MacArthur2013-12-04 18:49:18
Love the score myself.


Edmund Meinerts2013-12-04 19:26:18
I think it is. It's a very important transitional score for Zimmer, still written very much in that mid-90s MV style but also pushing a little bit in the direction of the pseudo-Holst/Stravinsky stylings of Gladiator. Has some great Russian flavor to it as well. Very solid score.


MacArthur2013-12-04 19:58:36
I've listened to holst/Stravinsky it's some weird stuff I think Zimmer's stuff makes more sense than the 2 I mentioned.


Edmund Meinerts2013-12-04 20:12:54
Oh MacArthur...you really are a goldmine of unintentional comedy. "Some weird stuff"...priceless :D


MacArthur2013-12-04 20:33:53
Heh it's what i'm known for. lol. :)


MacArthur2013-12-04 20:34:51
I meant Hey* pops :)


Lambegue2013-12-04 20:41:12
I agree with what Edmund said, it's an important transitional score. It is very interesting to listen as a Zimmer fan. But I don't think it is one of his best works overall, and for a lambda listener, it's maybe not really a must have.


Mike2014-01-10 18:07:58
I would say it's a must-have, myself. Sure, certain tracks are slightly obnoxious in their bombast (Devoe's Revenge, for example), but the unadulterated, masculine epicness of the score (particularly in "The Chase") and the interesting extension of the Crimson Tide sound make it worth having, especially for fans of the "90's action" Zimmer. To me, if you like Crimson Tide and The Rock, you'll like this one.


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-10 23:30:25
Devoe's Revenge is my favorite track!


Mike2014-01-11 00:12:26
lol....I'm sorry. It's definitely not bad at all, but it gets a little grating at points, imo.


Mortifer V.2014-01-24 21:37:36
definitely a must have.

MacArthur reply Replies: 2 || 2013-09-01 19:26:17
It's funny Greenway uses parts of Zimmer's stuff in Devoe's Revenge


trent easton navarro2013-12-04 09:26:37
Why is that funny? That part i basically one of the themes of the score, so seems logical Greenaway used it


Edmund Meinerts2013-12-04 19:23:10
Yeah, and it's funny how Balfe uses Zimmer's stuff in Inception, and how Zanelli/Jackman/Orvarsson/Balfe/Gire/Sponsler/Glennie-Smith/ Badelt/Jablonsky/Djawadi/Neely/Morris/Hendrickson use Zimmer's stuff in the Pirates scores.

No, wait, actually, it's perfectly normal. What was the point of this again?

Ds reply Replies: 2 || 2013-10-30 22:56:06
Re-discovering this score right now, it's amazing how it sounds like Gladiator! I had never noticed that before.


MacArthur2013-10-31 02:46:58
Agreed!


Mike2013-12-03 19:35:39
There's also a lot of The Rock and Crimson Tide... ;)

trent easton navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-16 22:34:10
Decided to give this one a spin today. Still a wonderful score, truly one of Zimmer's best action scores.

I remember when I bought this one, I was still in high school. The day after I got it, the day at school seemed to last forever. I just wanted to go home and play it again and again. Here's hoping La La Land or Intrada will release an expanded version soon

MacArthur reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-01 19:25:02
My favorite part is the last 2 minutes of Chase epic music one of Zimmer's best love it.

inspector mittens reply Replies: 0 || 2012-08-29 21:07:04
Gavin Greenaway wrote track #2, other tracks are written by Hans Zimmer.

Sanyey reply Replies: 0 || 2008-09-30 00:00:00
Hi all! Anyone knows who wrote the chore song (Russian kind) in the beginning of the train seen.. when they took a camera shot on the steamer from a helcopter or somekind... I would really love to have that song. but I cant find a site even mentioning this song.. #### . anyone has ideas? ##### thx to all! :)

me reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-23 00:00:00
This is a great soundtrack. This is Zimmer's greatest action score to date! And the choir pieces rival those in Crimson Tide. Great score for any Zimmer collector.

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-03 00:00:00
I really want to get my hands on the 2 CD set of The Peacemaker: Soundtrack. I know it is very hard to find but if anyone knows how i can get my hands in one oleas let me know

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
We have 2 Anthonys here how?!

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
Why is this Cd So hard to find? Does any one know?
And why is it for sale @ $45.00 and up?

If only iTunes would get it, i would be sooooo happy.

John Doe reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-16 00:00:00
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Lesleylionel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-10 00:00:00
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Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-04 00:00:00
We said that the piano composition that the little girl performs is Frederic Chopin's Nocturne (=Nocturnal) Opus 55 No. 1 In F Minor.
Also the other piano composition that the guy performs (because he has lost his spouse and daughter) is again Chopin's Nocturne No.20 In C Sharp Minor. These compositions ain't Hans Zimmer. Frederic Chopin is the composer. AND THEY AIN'T SONGS EITHER. THEY ARE NOCTURNES!!!!!! DO YOU COPY THAT?


Go here for music sheets
http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/index.cfm

http://vkgfx.com/scores/

Or purchase an album with Chopin's Nocturnes at www.amazon.com

Bjorn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-02 00:00:00
I would like to inquire what the classic song is in the movie The Peacemaker. It is the classic piano song I am referring to and I was wondering if this is a Hans Zimmer track as well?

Regards,

bjorn

Suicune reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
The best Zimmer action-movie soundtrack after Crimson Tide. Excellent to listen in a boring afternoon. Be careful. It's very militaristic.

David Annel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-10 00:00:00
great score !!!!!
my favourite soundtrack :-)

many greetings from germany !
david annel

OKKU reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-25 00:00:00
ONLY CHASE TRACK.
THANKS Z&#304;MMER

roger reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-11 00:00:00
It's a pity that the two Chopin pieces wre not included in the subject soundtrack. Anyone know of a version where they are included? Tks v m

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-08 00:00:00
Anyone knows the lyrics for the choir parts?

Many thanks.

Dusan reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-10 00:00:00
For Vincent- It was Serbian! Not Russian! But anway, it's the St. Dimitrija Choir and they were singing "Jelici" (or "Elici").

Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-02 00:00:00
Buy the OST man

Jelmer reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
Where can i find the song called "--train"-- when the train rides throught the mountains ??


Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
Perhaps it is the London Choir &-- a choral cue??

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