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'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessionsI like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....
Some of the action bits, yeah......This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...
Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me knowThe clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!
God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.
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John PowellTJ LindgrenJohn Ashton ThomasGermaine Franco
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The Bourne Supremacy (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'43
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
Fans rating:     rate at 1 out of 5 rate at 2 out of 5 rate at 3 out of 5 rate at 4 out of 5 rate at 5 out of 5   2/5 (5617 votes)
CD1
  1. Goa Flashback (1:18)
  2. Goa Flashback (Demo) (1:02)
  3. New Memories (2:16)
  4. New Memories (Alternate) (2:48)
  5. New Memories (Alternate II) (1:36)
  6. New Memories (Alternate III) (2:15)
  7. New Memories (Demo) (1:59)
  8. Morning Run (1:45)
  9. Morning Run (Demo) (1:50)
  10. Goa Chase (4:55)
  11. Underwater (2:18)
  12. The Drop (3:51)
  13. Exposition (1:43)
  14. Funeral Pyre (2:19)
  15. Gathering Data (1:51)
  16. Customs (1:44)
  17. Bourne Again (5:30)
  18. Nach Deutschland (2:39)
  19. Nach Deutschland (Demo) (2:37)
  20. Toaster Bomb-Diner (2:26)
  21. To The Roof (6:34)
  22. To The Roof (Demo) (4:59)
CD2
  1. Alexanderplatz (3:10)
  2. Tube Flashback (1:18)
  3. Room 645 (4:47)
  4. Berlin Foot Chase (5:17)
  5. Abbott Spews (Part 1) (2:32)
  6. Abbott Spews (Part 2) (1:32)
  7. Death Of Abbott (1:31)
  8. To Moscow (2:15)
  9. Moscow Wind Up (7:54)
  10. Moscow Wind Up (Demo) (7:09)
  11. Road Rage (5:09)
  12. Irena (3:05)
  13. Atonement (1:33)
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JB reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-27 08:22:35
Is there a chance of a rearranged and proper track listing for this score?

TPM reply Replies: 2 || 2010-03-22 00:00:00
There's actually a track missing on here - the scene where Bourne looks for Neski's hotel on the computer, it was used in Ultimatum too in a similar scene


Mike2012-12-29 09:38:19
Later reply, I know, but notice, this is only listed as an "expanded" score. Therefore, some cues would definitely be missing. Heck, even if it were considered complete, it's still possible that some cues wouldn't be listed--say, for example, if they were added later on. The Dark Knight Rises comes to mind. This site has a page for TDKR's complete score, but I can think, off the top of my head, of some cues that are missing from the list.


VJD2016-04-13 21:53:38
The track I believe you are looking for is Hotel Brecker above...

Mike reply Replies: 8 || 2015-08-11 19:18:33
So I was having a Bourne marathon this week, and I know this isn't gonna happen, if Greengrass' and Powell's relationship is as bad as it sounds, but I *really* wish Powell could be convinced to come back and score the fifth movie. On Supremacy and Ultimatum especially, his music really drives the film and ramps up the intensity and suspense. His absence was sorely felt in Legacy, IMO, and if the studio wants to reignite Bourne franchise fervor, they'll need to do all they can to get Powell, and Bourne's signature sound, back.


Edmund Meinerts2015-08-11 19:59:30
It would certainly be nice, although probably in violation of Powell's current work ethic (he's said a lot about staying away from violent films, only scoring things his son can watch etc). To be honest, you can see the cracks showing in the Greengrass/Powell relationship in Ultimatum...so many cues from Identity and Supremacy temped in to replace Powell's far superior original cues that you can hear on the complete score. But I think that Powell still would have had the capability to further develop the franchise sound - he wasn't out of things to say.

If not Powell, I certainly hope the franchise can find a worthier replacement than James Newton Howard's bore-fest that was Legacy. Hell, his own Salt is a far better Bourne score than Legacy.


Mike2015-08-11 21:33:35
"...he wasn't out of things to say."

My thoughts exactly. Like you said, a lot of the new material in Ultimatum ended up replaced with temp tracks from Supremacy, but you could tell listening to Ultimatum as originally written that Powell was really trying to develop the various motifs. And I'd love for him to get the chance to do that for real this time.

Another thing to me is, the music he wrote for this series is a vital part of its DNA. Even among non-score-enthusiasts, most Bourne fans I know have all agreed that the music plays a huge whole in making these movies what they are. Whether Powell wants to continue with these types of movies or not, he certainly did help define some of their appeal. If Howard *does* return (or whoever the composer ends up being), I hope he can be convinced to utilize more of Powell's signature themes beyond the oboe (or is it a bassoon?) theme that defines Bourne's uncertainty (which appeared twice in Legacy).


Anonymous2015-08-11 21:38:17
well he hasn't been active in recent years i don't think but i wonder if they could get james mckee smith to do bourne 5...he worked on the first and third ones and has experience with the series....


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-09 19:58:35
For those still hoping, Powell confirmed again he's not gonna score a sequel...


McKee Smith would be a great idea, but he got some serious injury a few years back which forced him to "retire" from film scoring... Too bad, great writer !!


Scorefan2015-09-09 20:58:44
@ Hybrid, what happened with James Mckee Smith?


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-09 21:08:59
Oh he's fine now, but he doesn't want to come back to film scoring... lol


Bioscope2015-09-10 05:54:32
Do you think they could mend relations with Henry Jackman? His distortes sequencer sounds could be a replacement to Powell's styles...


Brent2015-09-10 09:02:29
I think Jackman or Balfe could make the most sense in terms of musical style. Though, I'm sure neither of them wants to do this, especially Jackman.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-17 00:33:40
if only powell had come back for the unnecessary 4th bourne movie. JNH is usually a strong composer but his score there didn't do much for me and felt like a weak powell imitation.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-19 20:45:34
Seeing as this is expanded, does anyone know which tracks are missing? I can think of the scene where he's looking up information on Hotel Brecker, but what else?

sean reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-21 00:00:00
how do we get the expanded tracks

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-22 00:00:00
Not surprising. There are always several tracks missing from bootlegs.

versatyl reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-21 00:00:00
Nowhere to buy it ?

TPM reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-19 00:00:00
Where on earth can I get this???

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-19 00:00:00
@ TPM

It is a bootleg, you won't be able to get it through retail. We are not authorized to share any link's, sites, or anything of that matter on here. Your all on your own.

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-29 00:00:00
@ Alex

Nope, but it is a true expanded score. Music that was in the film are here except for "Road Rage", a cover artist placed in 'Film Version' but its not. Everything else that is not on the retail is new music.

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Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-25 00:00:00
Is this a promotional release ?

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-16 00:00:00
wow!

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