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The score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.
The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.and Zimmer criticized Elfman...back and forth, etc. So what? The movie is lame, the score is about as lame as Bat V Sup@JBSO99 you're right. It's so big and widely spread.<br><br>And you're right about me forgetting those score. I just picked these three because Elfman critized Zimmer
@Iamtommie  You forgot the theme by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, for not to mention the theme from the 60's TV show and all the themes for all the different animated motion pictures such as The Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the Phantasm, or the videogames like the Arkham series.<br><br>Batman's musical legacy is very big so him saying there is only one theme and his the one he created is really disrespectful to a big amount of composers.Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes.I think what Elfman said is not true.<br>Batman has different themes for different movies because every Batman is different.<br><br>Michael Keaton as Batman: Elfman's Theme<br>Christian Bale as Batman: Hans' Theme<br>Ben Affleck as Batman: Hans & Junkie's Theme.<br>Of course much more but the most important.<br><br>Each one if dies Batman's have a different story and a different universe. I think that for each universe a new theme is the best thing you can do. With a different theme you can relate more to this Batman than a previous one.<br><br>By the way, I think TDK, MoS & WW are 3 of the top 10 themes by Zimmer. I think what Elfman did the WW theme is an abomination. He removed the key instrument in the theme because he thought it was childisch.<br><br>I think the Justce League score is way worse than previous DCEU or Batman movies. I hope that Lorne of Junkie will do future DCUE movies instead of Elfman.<br><br>(Seeing Justice League thursday. I am curious if it is really that bad as everyine says)GITS was unreleased, JXL's JL score was completely rejected. The real qustion is how many rejected scores have leaked in the history of modern film scoring?Ghost in a thing that doesn't have life but does
Which score would that be?Seeing as how Lorne Balfe “leaked” his own score, I wonder if Tom could easily do the same?Haha - honestly though, before I realized this I felt Jablonsky didn't really bind the score together that well with themes and motifs. This is a pretty cool connection and I'm glad he made it.Almost like this was a film score or something! ;)I don't suppose you have credits for this score, Hybrid?
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John PowellTJ LindgrenJohn Ashton ThomasGermaine Franco
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The Bourne Supremacy (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'43
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CD1
  1. Goa Flashback (1:18)
  2. Goa Flashback (Demo) (1:02)
  3. New Memories (2:16)
  4. New Memories (Alternate) (2:48)
  5. New Memories (Alternate II) (1:36)
  6. New Memories (Alternate III) (2:15)
  7. New Memories (Demo) (1:59)
  8. Morning Run (1:45)
  9. Morning Run (Demo) (1:50)
  10. Goa Chase (4:55)
  11. Underwater (2:18)
  12. The Drop (3:51)
  13. Exposition (1:43)
  14. Funeral Pyre (2:19)
  15. Gathering Data (1:51)
  16. Customs (1:44)
  17. Bourne Again (5:30)
  18. Nach Deutschland (2:39)
  19. Nach Deutschland (Demo) (2:37)
  20. Toaster Bomb-Diner (2:26)
  21. To The Roof (6:34)
  22. To The Roof (Demo) (4:59)
CD2
  1. Alexanderplatz (3:10)
  2. Tube Flashback (1:18)
  3. Room 645 (4:47)
  4. Berlin Foot Chase (5:17)
  5. Abbott Spews (Part 1) (2:32)
  6. Abbott Spews (Part 2) (1:32)
  7. Death Of Abbott (1:31)
  8. To Moscow (2:15)
  9. Moscow Wind Up (7:54)
  10. Moscow Wind Up (Demo) (7:09)
  11. Road Rage (5:09)
  12. Irena (3:05)
  13. Atonement (1:33)
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TPM reply Replies: 2 || 2010-03-22 00:00:00
There's actually a track missing on here - the scene where Bourne looks for Neski's hotel on the computer, it was used in Ultimatum too in a similar scene


Mike2012-12-29 09:38:19
Later reply, I know, but notice, this is only listed as an "expanded" score. Therefore, some cues would definitely be missing. Heck, even if it were considered complete, it's still possible that some cues wouldn't be listed--say, for example, if they were added later on. The Dark Knight Rises comes to mind. This site has a page for TDKR's complete score, but I can think, off the top of my head, of some cues that are missing from the list.


VJD2016-04-13 21:53:38
The track I believe you are looking for is Hotel Brecker above...

Mike reply Replies: 8 || 2015-08-11 19:18:33
So I was having a Bourne marathon this week, and I know this isn't gonna happen, if Greengrass' and Powell's relationship is as bad as it sounds, but I *really* wish Powell could be convinced to come back and score the fifth movie. On Supremacy and Ultimatum especially, his music really drives the film and ramps up the intensity and suspense. His absence was sorely felt in Legacy, IMO, and if the studio wants to reignite Bourne franchise fervor, they'll need to do all they can to get Powell, and Bourne's signature sound, back.


Edmund Meinerts2015-08-11 19:59:30
It would certainly be nice, although probably in violation of Powell's current work ethic (he's said a lot about staying away from violent films, only scoring things his son can watch etc). To be honest, you can see the cracks showing in the Greengrass/Powell relationship in Ultimatum...so many cues from Identity and Supremacy temped in to replace Powell's far superior original cues that you can hear on the complete score. But I think that Powell still would have had the capability to further develop the franchise sound - he wasn't out of things to say.

If not Powell, I certainly hope the franchise can find a worthier replacement than James Newton Howard's bore-fest that was Legacy. Hell, his own Salt is a far better Bourne score than Legacy.


Mike2015-08-11 21:33:35
"...he wasn't out of things to say."

My thoughts exactly. Like you said, a lot of the new material in Ultimatum ended up replaced with temp tracks from Supremacy, but you could tell listening to Ultimatum as originally written that Powell was really trying to develop the various motifs. And I'd love for him to get the chance to do that for real this time.

Another thing to me is, the music he wrote for this series is a vital part of its DNA. Even among non-score-enthusiasts, most Bourne fans I know have all agreed that the music plays a huge whole in making these movies what they are. Whether Powell wants to continue with these types of movies or not, he certainly did help define some of their appeal. If Howard *does* return (or whoever the composer ends up being), I hope he can be convinced to utilize more of Powell's signature themes beyond the oboe (or is it a bassoon?) theme that defines Bourne's uncertainty (which appeared twice in Legacy).


Anonymous2015-08-11 21:38:17
well he hasn't been active in recent years i don't think but i wonder if they could get james mckee smith to do bourne 5...he worked on the first and third ones and has experience with the series....


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-09 19:58:35
For those still hoping, Powell confirmed again he's not gonna score a sequel...


McKee Smith would be a great idea, but he got some serious injury a few years back which forced him to "retire" from film scoring... Too bad, great writer !!


Scorefan2015-09-09 20:58:44
@ Hybrid, what happened with James Mckee Smith?


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-09 21:08:59
Oh he's fine now, but he doesn't want to come back to film scoring... lol


Bioscope2015-09-10 05:54:32
Do you think they could mend relations with Henry Jackman? His distortes sequencer sounds could be a replacement to Powell's styles...


Brent2015-09-10 09:02:29
I think Jackman or Balfe could make the most sense in terms of musical style. Though, I'm sure neither of them wants to do this, especially Jackman.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-17 00:33:40
if only powell had come back for the unnecessary 4th bourne movie. JNH is usually a strong composer but his score there didn't do much for me and felt like a weak powell imitation.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-19 20:45:34
Seeing as this is expanded, does anyone know which tracks are missing? I can think of the scene where he's looking up information on Hotel Brecker, but what else?

sean reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-21 00:00:00
how do we get the expanded tracks

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-22 00:00:00
Not surprising. There are always several tracks missing from bootlegs.

versatyl reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-21 00:00:00
Nowhere to buy it ?

TPM reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-19 00:00:00
Where on earth can I get this???

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-19 00:00:00
@ TPM

It is a bootleg, you won't be able to get it through retail. We are not authorized to share any link's, sites, or anything of that matter on here. Your all on your own.

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-29 00:00:00
@ Alex

Nope, but it is a true expanded score. Music that was in the film are here except for "Road Rage", a cover artist placed in 'Film Version' but its not. Everything else that is not on the retail is new music.

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-25 00:00:00
Is this a promotional release ?

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-16 00:00:00
wow!

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