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'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessionsI like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....
Some of the action bits, yeah......This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...
Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me knowThe clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!
God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.
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Transformers - Revenge Of The Fallen
Label: Reprise Records
Length: 43'56
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  1. Prime (2:14)
    Steve Jablonsky
  2. Einstein's Wrong (3:35)
    Steve Jablonsky
  3. Nest (2:08)
    Linkin Park, Steve Jablonsky, Ryeland Allison
  4. The Shard (2:42)
    Steve Jablonsky, Lorne Balfe
  5. The Fallen (4:03)
    Steve Jablonsky
  6. Infinite White (3:58)
    Steve Jablonsky
  7. Heed Our Warning (4:26)
    Steve Jablonsky
  8. The Fallen's Arrival (3:47)
    Steve Jablonsky, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  9. Tomb Of The Primes (2:47)
    Steve Jablonsky
  10. Forest Battle (2:04)
    Steve Jablonsky
  11. Precious Cargo (1:38)
    Steve Jablonsky
  12. Matrix Of Leadership (3:50)
    Steve Jablonsky
  13. I Claim Your Sun (3:06)
    Steve Jablonsky
  14. I Rise, You Fall (3:35)
    Steve Jablonsky
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Romain P. reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
Hans Zimmer doing additionnal music on a steve jablonsky score :D just good business :p

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
Awesome Score. A bit more generic than the first but still a great piece of work, especially because it complements the first one. After just 1 listen a main theme comes forth, appearing every now and then throughout the score.
"Prime" wich is the "Autobots" of this score, in theme and in sound. "Autobots" itself returns in 2 instances, at the end of "Forest Battle" in a more gritty and fast version, and, as in the previous score, as the 2nd half of "I Rise, You Fall" in an almost exact duplicate of "No Sacrifice, No Victory". I say almost because, although it mimics that score 1 track, it sound deeper and more majestic (if that is possible). And the final piece "Matrix of Leadership" is a delicious (though short) take on "Arrival to Earth".
I do hope that more themes from the previous score seep into the new movie, but in this score that is it, the rest is totally new. As i say said, a true compliment to the 1st score, building on its sound and feel.
For now, the only defect i find in this score is the one many have mentioned, it is too short. After these 43 minutes go by, you're left wanting more.
Only truly good scores make you feel that.
I once again tip my hat to Mr. Jablonsky. Now, let the 24th come to see what spectacular visuals illustrate this exquisite score.

Chris reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
And before I get attacked, I can completely understand other people liking it. Its edgy, fast, dark... just not what I wanted from this score. And maybe it is what other people wanted.

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
After a complete listen of the score. I'm a little bit disappointed.
Some tracks like "Prime", "Infinite White" or "Matrix of Leadership" are very angelous but others parts of the score aren't very original..
"The Fallen", "Fallen's Arrival" and " Einstein's Wrong"especially show the trend of an unpersonnal music without real emotion..(even 'Decepticons' theme from the first one was better!)
The reprise of the old 'Autobots' and 'Optimus' themes are really cool in 'Forest Battle', 'I Claim Your Sun' but totally obsolete in 'I Rise, You Fall" (same as 'No Sacrifice, No Victory' on the 52-tracks bootleg)..
The collaboration with Linkin Park is average but finally, upper than others electronic parts of the score..

I'm sure that the entire score is highly better in his context but I think if the cd reflects the quality of the score in his globality, it will be sad for 'Jablonsky' fans like me..

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
I'm with Deakins, however, I liked most tracks, but the score is too short. Anyone smelling a new petition coming up ?:P But I do not think it's any use...

Badguy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
That's True!!! hahahaha, this guy is right!! First Born Theme is 160 BMP variation... obviously, mixed with THE PEACEMAKER sound!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
yeah guys you should listen to zimmer "first born" cue ( in the world of BBC theme , 1989, scroll down in disco section and you'll find the CD )

It sounds very close to angels and demon 160 bpm ! Funny

Badguy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
Another analyze... the track FOREST BATTLE is a variation of Soccent Attack, and we can hear the Optimus Prime theme of the first movie... about the choirs... it sounds like A&D... anyways, I think the TRANSFORMERS 2 soundtrack is very short, we want the complete score, nooooooow!!! hahaha

Badguy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
Well, to me, I liked "Infinite White", remember me the sound of KING ARTHUR, who is the female solo voice? I love her!!! (^^,)

Leonor reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
@ Badguy

Yah... it really sounds like A&D... Now that I've heard it (in here - btw), it has everything to do with Hans! Well, he worked in this ost, so I truly believe it has his hand!
The same choirs style... with the melody being the main part of it... so Hans Zimmer!

I would like to listen "Nest" based on the song by LP...

For what I've heard, it really sounds a little bit more darker than the 1st one... more choirs! But I liked it... can't wait to have it!

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
I prefer the first one I think but this one seems to be different -- darker indeed. Some tracks are very good imho and I am impatient to see how this score fits with the movie.

I agree with Ele, some tracks from T1 like Allspark theme are definitely missing but wait and see the movie with the complete soundtrack...

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
Dark or not, i'd like to hear T1 style. I miss Allspark theme, and some good action-score cues (soccent attack was one of them for example)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
anyone for the good track order ? ^_^

not yet ? ;-)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
it's just different, more dark but very good ^_^

(pleaaaaaasee i want a complete or expanded score)

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
@Chris :
Totally agree with you, I waited more variations and new arrangements of the old theme.. like everybody like you said.

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
new extracts added

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
Hey, Antas..
So, what do you think about this score?

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
The "Arrival To Earth" theme is present near the end of the track "Matrix Of Leadership".

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
Yes but it's not the best motif of 'Arrival to Earth'. :-)
However, it's a good arrangement.

Badguy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
Einstein's Wrong sounds like Angels & Demonds... Zimmer's Hand??

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
I heard to the score about 10 times by now, and i am very disappointed. "New" Prime theme is just mixed Optimus and Autobots theme from first part. Pretty weak action score, weak new themes. Too much electric guitar. Especially in The Shard. Hello, this is filmscore, not a rock/metal/whatever.
Srsly, big disappointment. I hope there will be complete score which will contain moar epic music.

@down Yeah, it sounds exacly as 160/Fire from A&D. Especially when female choir turns up.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
waitin' for the complete score ^_^

starscream reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
What I've heard so far is very, very satisfying. I am now confortable with the way they are going with the music. I was worried that there might be too much Lincoln Park music but from what I've heard, Steve is still the man.

And as for the length, I am a little sad but hopefully there is more in the film because I cannot see how 43 minutes can score such a long and expensive film. Unless they do a lot of rehashing from the first one.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
About the fees, I don't know what it costs, I didn't ask, but it's probably quite important... ;)

And about that US rule, it's not the case in other countries... That's why we get longer release for "foreign score"... For instance King Arthur, which is quite a long CD release for a Bruckheimer/Disney production, but the film & score were done in the UK...

I'm not sure but I think it's the same for The Da Vinci Code which got a 70 min release, or German productions like Der Kleine Eisbär 2 or Lauras Stern... :)

But every country has its owns rules, for examples in the UK there's a tax for non Brittish writers ! That's why Nick Glennie-Smith & Rupert Gregson-Williams got an official additional music credit, and American people Steve Jablonsky, Trevor Morris, Jim Dooley & Blake Neely didn't get the official writing credit... :)


Weird weird music world !!!! :S

Rock reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed so far.

I'm hearing very little fresh, creative thematic material--which I'm hoping is due to the choice of clips and possibly material present on the disc. In the first film, the Autobot theme in the opening grabbed my ears IMMEDIATELY. But so far, I'm not hearing anything like that.

The other thing is that, again the first one, Steve used different instruments to convey different themes: Autobots and humans-horns; Allspark-cello; Decepticons-electronics. All I've heard from the new one so far are some standard orchestrations and a bunch of techno noise.

RC-Fan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
I hope the Score is really cool because the lenght of the score is not - okey. 43:56 for a Big Budget Movie is a badley joke!
I hope the Score is the Best from 2009!

Roby reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
Infinite White and I Rise, You Fall, look like Gladiator OST. I wish that someone bring something new. Something revolutionary.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
i dont know who said the transformers track over at the Jablonsky site was a track from a video game, but Im here to tell you...

That track is better quality than the video game synths he uses for economic purpose, and for another, it's the chord progression of Bumblebee/Allspark without the layers.

Dead on balls accurate, and if Jablonsky used it in that video game score, then he clearly shamelessly stole from the Transformers well...

Stevee reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
I really hope there will be a complete score, like the first one.

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