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'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessionsI like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....
Some of the action bits, yeah......This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...
Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me knowThe clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!
God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.
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Transformers - Revenge Of The Fallen
Label: Reprise Records
Length: 43'56
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  1. Prime (2:14)
    Steve Jablonsky
  2. Einstein's Wrong (3:35)
    Steve Jablonsky
  3. Nest (2:08)
    Linkin Park, Steve Jablonsky, Ryeland Allison
  4. The Shard (2:42)
    Steve Jablonsky, Lorne Balfe
  5. The Fallen (4:03)
    Steve Jablonsky
  6. Infinite White (3:58)
    Steve Jablonsky
  7. Heed Our Warning (4:26)
    Steve Jablonsky
  8. The Fallen's Arrival (3:47)
    Steve Jablonsky, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  9. Tomb Of The Primes (2:47)
    Steve Jablonsky
  10. Forest Battle (2:04)
    Steve Jablonsky
  11. Precious Cargo (1:38)
    Steve Jablonsky
  12. Matrix Of Leadership (3:50)
    Steve Jablonsky
  13. I Claim Your Sun (3:06)
    Steve Jablonsky
  14. I Rise, You Fall (3:35)
    Steve Jablonsky
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Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-27 00:00:00
I don't know what you call a rundown, so I have some difficulties to tell you if it could be a problem or not.
If your fear is about some legal aspect, it is better to avoid it.
If it is more because of length of the upcoming post, the forum will perhaps be a better place for such a post.

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-27 00:00:00
nothing illegal, i think. basically it's just a list of what music plays in wich scenes, may involve description of the music and scene.

DARTH reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-27 00:00:00
oups !

@ Westfall : PM me , my name is "darth2602" on the Forum...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-27 00:00:00
No problem for the site, westfall, go ahead if you want to do it !


I'll be interested in this too ! :D

D A R T H reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-27 00:00:00
@ Westfall : i can help you, contact me fast with the U2U fonction on the Forum...

yoda reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-27 00:00:00
what is the song playing when the second round of re enforcements arrive the ones that actually help??

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-27 00:00:00
Great!! The best songs are:
Prime, a new theme, inused in the film.
Nest, with a action Linkin Park (New Divide) theme.
Infinite White, with a ¿Lisa Gerrard? beautiful vocals.
Tomb of the Primes, with a passage theme, what describes good the place.
Matrix of Leadership, the BEST SONG of album for me, with the scene, the best of the movie.
Forest Battle, with the Optimus fight final theme, a fast version of Autobots theme.
I Rise, you Fall, the classic theme of Transformers. The final of 1rts movie in the 2nd.
^^ The Promo 2 CD's album PLEASE!!!!!!!!
Xaoooooooo

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
The movie is fantastic!

The score is the greatest! Steve Jablonsky again made it perfect! The is a ton of themes that didn't made it on the official score, however: Arrival to Earth, Autobots, Scorponok, You're a Soldier Now, Sam at the Lake! Those are the themes I heard in the movie, apart from the new ones.

And now, after watching the movie, I present the track order of the official score that I think is right:

1. NEST (when the NEST team deploys in Shanghai to capture Decepticons)
2. The Fallen (Megatron flies off into space and lands on Mars where he speaks with The Fallen, discussing Optimus Prime)
3. Forest Battle (fight in the woods between Optimus, Megatron, Starscream and Grindor; the Autobots theme is heard when Optimus unleashes hell upon Starscream and Grindor)
4. Prime (heard when Mikaela consoles Sam and tells him there was nothing he could have done to save Optimus)
5. The Fallen's Arrival (this is heard mostly when Soundwave mobilizes the Decepticons, when they land on the aircraft carriers, in Paris, and in other places on Earth)
6. Heed Our Warning (this theme harldy heard in the movie if at all; I guess they wanted to use it when The Fallen adresses the Earthlings regarding Sam Witwicky, but it was cut out from the scene)
7. Einstein's Wrong (heard when Sam, Mikaela, Leo, Simmons and Wheelie try to decipher the markings in Simmons' basement)
8. Precious Cargo (the scene where Galloway informs the Autobots and Lennox to dispand NEST, Optimus' lifeless body is seen on the ground at base)
9. Tomb of the Primes (Sam, Mikaela, Simmons, Leo, Bumblebee, Skids and Mudflap discover the Tomb of Primes in Jordan and Sam takes the Matrix of Leadership)
10. The Shard (heard when Bumblebee faces Rampage and Ravage during the final battle in the desert)
11. Infinite White (Sam i uncounscious, they try to reanimate him, he seeses The Primes and comes back to life)
12. Matrix of Leadership (Sam takes the reformed Matrix and stabs it into Optimus' spark; the "Arrival to Earth" theme from the end of the cue is heard when Optimus comes back to life)
13. I Claim Your Sun (The Fallen and Megatron are on the top of the Pyramid, The Fallen turns on The Harvester, Optimus comes and starts the fight with The Fallen, the theme end when Optimus takes off The Fallen's mask and destroys him)
14. I Rise, You Fall (right after The Fallen is defeated, the aftermath of the battle, leading into "New Divide" song, starting the end credits, identical to "No Sacrifice, No Victory" leading into "What I've Done" in Transformers)

Of the old themes there are the following (names are from the score for the first film)

1. Arrival to Earth (heard twice in the movie, when Optimus jumps from the plane to Shanghai and when Sam, Mikaela, Simmons, Leo and Autobots discover Jetfire in the air museum)
2. Sam at the Lake (Witwicky family prepare to leave the house, Sam is packing)
3. Scorponok
4. You're a Soldier Now

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
New Divide by Linkin Park

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
whats the name of the song. first song of the ending credits

D A R T H reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
@ Nono : ? ? ?

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
@ nono

For a moment i thought you had found the complete score.

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
As promised, here's the movie order of the score tracks. One thing i noticed while making this is that while the 1st scores tracks, although presented in "album version" remained practically the same as in the movie, the ones on this score are heavilly edited in the film.

WARNING BIG S P O I L E R S ! ! !
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This 2nd score has 2 tracks that aren't used in the movie in their album form:

- Prime -> Though not used, the main theme is part of many of the tracks of the score;
- Heed Our Warning -> seems to be used in the Alice pursuit scene but it's too edited to be sure;

The tracks on this score are cut and placed all over the film so the rest appear in the movie in edited form, some more than once. I list them in order of appearence:

01 - N.E.S.T. -> NEST deploys in Shanghai, used in other scenes, slightly rearranged;
02 - The Shard -> Arcee and the twins pursue Sideways, used in other scenes, slightly rearranged;
03 - The Fallen -> Megatron meets Sam
04 - Forest Battle - well...title really explains itself, most badass sequence of the film
05 - the fallen's arrival -> Optimus falls, Autobots arrive to cover Sams escape, Lennox is informed of Optimus's death, Megatron pummels Starscream ona rooftop, The Fallen and a group of Decepticons crash into an aircraft carrier, sinking it, other Decepticons crash worldwide.
06 - einstein's wrong -> Sam, Mikaela, Leo and Simmons meet inside the meatlocker,conclusion that the TFs have been on Earth for a looooooong time, Wheelie points the closest Seeker.
07 - infinite white -> Sam and his party find the temple ( only the final segment is played)
08 - tomb of the primes -> breaking the wall of the temple they find the tomb and The Matrix, but it turns to dust, C-17's from NEST arrive
09 - precious cargo -> amidstthe raging battle Lennox and Epps meet with Sam and Mikaela
10 - matrix of leadership -> Sam's near death experience and "meeting" with the primes, matrix reforms and Sam revives Optimus
11 - I Claim Your Sun -> The Fallen steal the Matrix and activates the arvester, Jetfire sacrifices his spark to give his parts to Optimus, Optimus flies to the pyramid and destroys the arvester, Optimus defeats Megatron
12 - i rise, you fall -> Optimus battles The Fallen, Megatron and Starscream escape, final reunion scenes

Re-used tracks from the 1st film are "Sam at the Lake", "Witwicky" (or one of the related themes like "Witwicky House"), "Camaro on the Run". These are the same as in the first film.

1st score themes used in new themes are "Arrival to Earth", "Autobots", "Optimus", "Bumblebee Captured", "Bumblebee"and "Scorponok".

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
@ A Sentient Being

Seems we had the same idea at the same time. LOL

As for your placement of "Prime", i thought that is where we get the closest rendition of the track but i found it to be too different to list it there. I would call it "Sad Prime" as it is a more subdued and with an overall sadder tone than Prime. That was my take on it. As for "Heed Our Warning" i'll take another listen at that scene.

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
@ westfall

Ok, we are close on this. Maybe I didn't hear some of the themes on different places in the film. I just caught the most prominent appearance of the themes. But, I didn't get "Camaro on the Run", "Optimus", and "Bumblebee Captured". When are they heard?

D A R T H reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
I propose :

01 Prime (Openning - Unused in this form)
02 NEST
03 The Fallen
04 The Shard
05 Forrest Battle
06 The Fallen Arrives
07 Heed Our Warning
08 Einstein's Wrong
09 Infinite White
10 Tomb Of The Primes
11 Precious Cargo
12 Matrix Of Leadership
13 I Claim Your Sun
14 I Rise, You Fall

D A R T H reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
One question : the 1st and the 2cd score was composed by Steve Jablonsky itself, why he doesn't use movies theme ? for 1st -> ok, the game devellopment was started before the production of the movie score; for the 2nd game -> ??? he could use the movie 1 themes or alternate but...not

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
@ A Sentient Being

I'm at work now but when i get home tonight i'll check my notes and let you know. I thought of posting an actual rundown of the music in the film but the at post would be too long. As for the use of Bumblebee Captured", i'll just simplify things and go with "Optimus" instead since "BB Captured" was itself a version of "Optimus".

Badguy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
the vocal that we listened in INFINITE WHITE... it's of LISA GERRARD?? that's true?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-26 00:00:00
Vocals : Lisbeth Scott


;)

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
"Knowing MV. A complete bootleg is not far behind if people want it bad enough."

And, people DO want it badly enough already!!!

snarky reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
@ Danny
I hope you're right lol

Danny reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
Knowing MV. A complete bootleg is not far behind if people want it bad enough.

matthew91 reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
Heed Our Warning??
I didn't hear this in the cinema.

snarky reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
We definitely need the rest of the music to be released I really enjoyed all the revised versions of the old tracks from the first movie. Hopefully they'll be released.

G.T.© reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
Film very very nice....
SoundTrack very nice beautiful...

Starscream reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
I saw the movie and I absolutely loved it! And the score by Steve Jablonsky was awesome. I can't believe all the negativity this film is getting from critics. The critics seem to be alone because everyone that I talk to about the film, say they loved it. Just like the first one. Critics hate it and the people love it. Great job to the whole team that worked on the movie and the score!

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
I'm watching this movie tonight! There are no words that can describe my hype bout it!!!

Renegade reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-25 00:00:00
i watched the movie yesterday and it was awesome.
enjoyed each minute :)
i´m still waiting for the score, hope amazon delivers soon.

there´s an enormous heroic theme when optimus jumps out of the plane over shanghai. does anybody know, if this theme is in the score?

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