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After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>
so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."
I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.I wouldnít be surprised if he wrote another long sketchbook for it...I honestly have no idea... But I can't believe back in June when he left he hadn't done a bunch of the score already...The thing is with Jablonsky scores composers rarely get cuesheet credits, so you can't really draw conclusions out of it. Here's a small part of the cuesheet :<br><br>QUINTESSA PT 1<br>QUINTESSA PT 2<br>QUINTESSA PT 3 OPTIMUS REDEMPTION<br>KNIGHTED<br>WE HAVE TO GO ZERO GRAVITY<br><br>OPENING BATTLE<br>MERLIN<br>MERLIN GETS THE STAFF - BATTLE WON<br>TROUBLED TIMES<br>CADE DRIVING - AMULET<br>WE HUNT - DECEPTICONS HUNT<br>KEEP A SECRET - VIV ARRIVES CASTLE FOLGEN<br>WITWICCANS<br>ROUNDTABLE ORGAN SOURCE<br>COGMAN CHOIR<br>STAFF<br>BETTER GET CRACKING<br>PLANETARY VAMPIRISM<br>TOO OLD<br>SUBMARINE<br>TWO MOONS<br>MERLIN'S TOMB<br>SPACE STATION<br>CLAIM THE STAFF<br>SHIP RISE<br>YOUR VOICE<br>SOLDIERS TAKE POSITION - BURTON DIES<br>FALL AND GRAB<br>ENDINGrumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it
Any chance of proper artist credits for this score?@Hybrid <br><br>Did Tom actually record anything for the film or did he just do demos?It's the same 24 tracks divided on two CDs. I'm truly hoping for a nice numbered digipak that separates the limited editions from the regular release otherwise it would be quite a crappy move from the record label. <br><br>"Joss said, ĎLetís do it [Batmanís theme] on the nose. Fans love this kind of stuff.í" Why do you have to ruin everything, Joss?This film is atrocious. Suicide Squad was a mess but that film was forgivable. What WB decided to with JL is embarrassing, to say the least. Forcing Zack to change the tone and add forced childish humor and quips, demanding a less than 2-hour runtime, extensive reshoots with Whedon in charge... wtf were they thinking?<br><br>It's interesting to note that Zack hasn't even seen this abomination yet.
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Angels & Demons
Label: Sony Classics
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  1. 160 BPM (6:42)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. God Particle (5:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli ÷rvarsson, Mel Wesson
  3. Air (9:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli ÷rvarsson, Geoff Zanelli, Mel Wesson
  4. Fire (6:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  5. Black Smoke (5:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Mel Wesson
  6. Science And Religion (12:27)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. Immolation (3:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  8. Election By Adoration (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. 503 (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  10. Bonus Track : H2O (1:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli ÷rvarsson
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Miles reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
The movie trailers section of Apple.com has a sneak peek at Hans scoring the film, with a new variation on the Da Vinci Code theme. Check it out, it sounds great!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
160 BPM probably means 160 Beats per Minute. This could mean the music has a very fast tempo !
I know Zimmer like to "comment" his own music in the track titles ("A Small Piece for Doumbek and Strings", "The Jablonsky Variations on a Theme by HZ", "Too Many Notes, Not Enough Rests"...) :P

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
So funny to see all these people exiting on this cd to be released !! As for me, I would wait to here it before rating the score ... but as each Zimmer's a masterpiece is coming...

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
Thanks to DemonStar and to everybody!!! So there is a lots of mistery in the titles too...too cool Hans!!!
However, I hope that this CD will sell a lots of copies!!!

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
That was me below

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
It's present in the middle. I didn't remember it at first either but then it clicked suddenly. Check the portion where -

!!!SPOILERS!!!


Langdon and Vittoria are talking in the secret archives. :)

Kusi81 reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
@DemonStar: I also read the book and I didn't remember your explanation;)

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
@Kusi81 -

Thanks for that, interesting. But here, '503' means -



------!!!SPOILERS!!!--------------------------



In Roman numerals 503 is written "DIII", and it refers to Galileo's work "Diagramma", the third work beginning with the letter 'D'.

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-14 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy, that is letter "I" + 60 BPM. ;-)

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-13 00:00:00
Not bad. We should have an integration of electronics and orchestra/choir here signifying Science and Religion respectively. Can't wait!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-13 00:00:00
Czar Mina i think you've never listened to any score by Hans before.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-12 00:00:00
if hans zimmer does it, u dont have to wait to listen to it in order to judge it!!!!!!u gotta be sure that its perfect!!!!!
shame on you CZAR MINA

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
I can't wait to see what Hans did in this score, i think its going to be an amazing score as always, anyway i really can't wait. Loved the cover

mom reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
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Czar Mina reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
waiting to listen .........
the davinci code was amazing i expect that this one will be perfect

teoperseoo reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-10 00:00:00
When the clips of the music?

Lee reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-09 00:00:00
exlibris.ch

1. 160 BPM (06:42)
2. God Particle (05:20)
3. Air (09:08)
4. Fire (06:51)
5. Black Smoke (05:45)
6. Science and Religion (12:27)
7. Immolation (03:38)
8. Election by Adoration (02:12)
9. 503 (02:14)

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-09 00:00:00
Assuming that Hans was indeed inspired to get violin solos on this project by James Newton Howard's work on Defiance, then perhaps he should talk to Michael Giacchino at some point to get some inspirations for track titles too!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-08 00:00:00
Hans is now producing Steve S. Transformer 2 and Trevor Rabin's G-Force.

dan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-07 00:00:00
maybe there is a chance that Hans can score ridley scott's robin hood movie. it has been awhile since these two worked together.

Mikel S.i.W (from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-07 00:00:00
SUBLIME

shaadp reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-07 00:00:00
i don't think hans will take any substantial time off till after the third batman installment. he's currently got projects already on his plate for release this year and in the future. another james brooks film (2009 release maybe) and an animated film called rango (2011 release) from gore verbinski, just to name a few.

i suspect the tracks are 5 - 10 mins on average, with full orchestration and solos on the same tracks. this should be a good one, as i expect a lot of new material. does hans bring back the "thinking" theme for tom hanks' character? does he reprise chevaliers de sangreal? is the version in the trailer (which is different than da vinci) a peak at the new and expanded version? time will only tell.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-07 00:00:00
when is released the cd? ...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-06 00:00:00
Wonder if they are nine long tracks, too bad not more of hanz's score

dan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-06 00:00:00
so i am guessing that Hans will take the rest of the year off because of concert schedules that was discussed last year.

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-05 00:00:00
Non pensavo ci fossero cosž tanti Italiani fan di Hans Zimmer!!! Sono molto contento!!! Ehi, mi raccomando, comprate il CD originale!!! ;-)

However, thanks to Falconet and DemonStar, I've seen only today that the Cover is ready and the tracklist too!!! I think it's really good!!!
But it's a bit stange to see "Violins solos"...what kind of music will be with "violin solo"?!
I've read on Wikipedia that Joshua Bell is one of the most important violinist now!!! Great!!!

However I've read the book and now I think that some track name are very strange...for example: the first and the last one: what is their meaning?!! I don't know...Then I waited a longer tracklist, but as DemonStar says, they should be very long...I hope it!!!
Bye!!!

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-05 00:00:00
Amazon has the tracklist now -

1. I60 BPM
2. God Particle
3. Air
4. Fire
5. Black Smoke
6. Science and Religion
7. Immolation
8. Election by Adoration
9. 503

They should be long tracks I think. From the track titles (judging by the corresponding book scenes) I deduce there'll be quite some action stuff too!

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-03 00:00:00
I hope the album will be a good balance between action and melodic music, and I hope Hans doesn't remove the action tracks like JNH did with Defiance. But I wholeheartedly applaud Hans for his decision to include violin solos because the plot and character emotion does get very complex near the end of the book, and I really want the music to reflect that.

So Hans, if you're reading this, don't forget to give us a fair amount of that dashing gothic choir action music on the CD too! ;)

ZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-03 00:00:00
Cover available on Amazon.com

Violin solos!!!!!!!!!

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