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Edmund - given the rationality you've displayed in your comments, I'm disappointed Goldsmith isn't in your top three. ;)<br><br>In all seriousness, I'd put money on Powell fucking nailing the integration of Williams's theme. While Giacchino did a solid job on Jurassic World and Rogue One (I tend to think my assessment of the latter is a bit more positive than most), frankly I just think Powell is a far better composer - a genuine A-level guy, whereas Giacchino is moreso very competent without that spark of pure talent seen in Williams, Goldsmith, Elfman, Zimmer etcI think it's worth noting that Zimmer's popularity at this point is largely under his direct control - meaning that if he were to decide to stop touring, go back to writing full-time, and return to his 'epic' thematic style, I think we'd see a surge in his popularity of the sort we saw from Batman Begins through til Interstellar. However, I just don't think he's interested, which is totally his right.<br><br>I certainly agree that the RCP proteges at this point are, frankly, shit compared to how they used to be. I mean, even a guy like Steve Mazzaro (who I genuinely like and who wrote some of the coolest cues in Chappie, and basically co-wrote BvS - a score I actually like) just utterly pales in comparison to the Powell era.<br><br>Actually, I have to take that back a bit; Wallfisch is a very, very talented guy, honestly so much better than someone like Junkie that I weirdly tend to forget he's under the RCP roof now.@HunterTech<br><br>"I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world."<br><br>Exactly. Hans, for all the criticism he gets (much of it for good reason), has written some of the best film music of all time (seriously, having listened to huge amounts of Williams and Goldsmith, I still find Science & Religion my favorite cue ever). On the other hand, Lorne has written innumerable adequate-to-good scores, but none that I can recall are iconic. I'd say the closest he's come is in the form of his contributions to some of Zimmer's work (personally, I think his Kick It theme is the most interesting of those in Inception), but even then he hasn't done anything as memorable as Djawadi's theme from Batman Begins.Michael - reread the second half of my previous comment. And no, I don't think Genius or Churchill are no good; I wasn't impressed by the second, to be honest, but Genius is really cool - like an updated version of Frost/Nixon, one of my very favorite Zimmer/RCP scores.<br><br>Edmund - much appreciated.<br><br>Overall, I too am baffled by many of these comments; clearly there is a middle ground between "Lorne is shit." and "Lorne is absolutely amazing.", but this seems to be missed.<br><br>And by the way, I'm actually super happy for Lorne's success - I think he deserves it given the quality and quantity of his work, and he seems like a super nice guy to boot (how many composers regularly respond to people on Facebook?). However, this doesn't mean I can't simultaneously point out the fact that much of his work is very, very similar to work he's done previously. Indeed, I think this is more of an issue for Lorne than Hans, perhaps because he takes on sooooooo many projects.I agree. His Justice League theme is just a deconstruct of his Batman theme. Clever, yeah sure - he's done similar things with the Men In Black sequels and I'm sure there's others I can't think of right now - but I personally dont consider Elfman's involvement in this new DCEU to be very welcome. Zimmer paints a different canvas than Elfman, and I love both their works.
It was a missed opportunity.<br>Yeah... I'm not sure about Elfman's wave. The guy decided to bring back his old Batman theme instead of actually writing a new one. He has to re-invent himself. <br>Seven with ZimmerYeah, Silvestri, Newman, Goldenthal and JNH too. The six most popular "new" composers, along with Horner, of the  80's and 90's.I saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't wait
I saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitHonestly, I do feel bad for Elfman, because for Chrissakes hes been doing 50 Shades of Grey these days, and the last memorable scores I have of him are from 2012. But I don't think Zimmer or even Elfman for that matter are done as yet. I predict by the end of this decade Zimmer will have a new wave in popularity wash in. I'm just waiting for Elfman's wave right now...not quite seeing it yet.Glad you caught it Rockhound. Think the others were too wound up to notice !!i was trying to be funny.Pete you are funny, although u demand from others to talk about the actual soundtrack from this page, you start to talk also about another soundtrack. but ok.... i think Forgotten is a very boring track and adds nothing to the actual scene. a variation of his theme from the track Hero would have been much more intense for the ending. sadly we got 9 boring minutes of thematic development and instrumentation. Lorne can do much better as the track Hero from the same soundtrack shows.Zimmer got X-Men: Dark Phoenix this year. And I have a hard time believing he is only scoring that film this year. Zimmer always does more than 1 film a year.
No need for petty cursing .<br><br>We can discuss the soundtrack instead ! <br><br>Forgotten is cool track.It’s definitely one of Bay’s best movies. Wish he would make more drama based film obvious with some action. Can’t cope with more robots ! The ending of the film is so emotional and this track gave goosebumps at the end. Did sound very similar to the end of The Last Knight"Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject."<br><br>Ok, so someone else gets us on this topic, an arguement occurs, and NOW, only when you've realized you're losing the arguement, do you decide that this page is only for 12 strong. Which it's not. This is a forum we talk about whatever we want here.<br><br>But what a childish and pathetic attempt at avoiding our points. Just dismissively saying "Boring! Change the subject! My ears can't handle this criticism!!! Wah, wah, wah!" I guarantee you the next step after this is going to be petty cursing.Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subjectUpset about success? Sounds like someone doesn't know a thing about reasonable criticism. :p<br><br>If anyone likes Balfe, then good on them. I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world. Especially if people are still gonna be excited about hearing the work of someone else when a different person is hired (i.e. what JL might've been).Can we please change the subject !!!!!!!!it is so boring now.This page is ment to be about the sound track to 12 Strong
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  2. God Particle (5:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson, Mel Wesson
  3. Air (9:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson, Geoff Zanelli, Mel Wesson
  4. Fire (6:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  5. Black Smoke (5:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Mel Wesson
  6. Science And Religion (12:27)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. Immolation (3:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  8. Election By Adoration (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. 503 (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  10. Bonus Track : H2O (1:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson
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Zach reply Replies: 2 || 2016-10-28 21:10:18
In the track "Smashing The Ring" (It's actually featured on this site), there is a Gregorian style chant around 1:22 - does anyone know if this is a pre-existing/traditional chant that they used or did Hans (or someone else) write it? I really like it.


Leonard2016-10-28 21:54:22
This is indeed a pre-existing Greogorian chant. It's the chant "Requiem Aeternam" from the mass of the dead. If you like it you shoud check out the Requiem by Maurice Duruflé which is entirely based on the chants from the mass of the dead.


Zach2016-10-28 22:18:07
Thanks for the quick and informative response!

JamesT reply Replies: 4 || 2016-05-11 03:20:58
Inferno trailer is out! Looking forward to this one from Ron and Hans!!!

https: // www. youtube.com /watch?v=xbNBB1D37U8

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Dfault2016-05-11 18:35:19
That track in this preview, is that the first peak at the album? It seems more electronic (as Hans already pointed out)


...2016-05-11 19:03:00
There's not a chance in hell that that is from the actual score. That's just trailer music.


i2016-05-11 20:01:28
That music is shit.




Dfault2016-05-11 20:17:36
Never mind indeed, thought when i first saw it 2 days ago the it could be new music, listened to it now again, i doubt it ^^

matthew reply Replies: 1 || 2015-06-06 21:32:52
so I'm going home today but I couldn't because the road was blocked and what I'm seeing is Ron Howard basically directing a scene from Inferno in downtown Budapest. I know its crazy and dump but, I mean, my first thought was: this means HZ already did some serious early work for this!


Zimson2015-06-06 22:39:28
Likely, considering that he starts writing suites very early in the process with this kind of projects.
However we won't get to hear shit untill the movie is about to be released. ;)

... reply Replies: 4 || 2015-01-07 18:28:02
I just saw that inferno is no longer listed on hans' page...
Will he not score it or is it just not confirmed?


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-07 18:53:52
Well don't worry he will, it's just way too early, In The Heart Of The Sea isn't even released yet...


bro2015-01-07 19:36:18
I'm surprised Hans wasn't involved with that.


Edmund Meinerts2015-01-07 19:58:42
Good ol' Spanish tax laws! ;)

Anyways, even though he's been using Hans pretty consistently over the last decade or so, Ron Howard has never been a one-composer kind of guy.

What I'm more surprised about is that Inferno is even still being made. I kind of get the feeling that the world is over the whole Dan Brown religious thriller thing.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-07 20:02:04
He would have, bro, without that Spanish Tax Break ! :P

Zimson reply Replies: 4 || 2014-11-01 16:41:53
So, is Hans really confirmed for Inferno now (since it already appears in his profile)?


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-01 17:17:19
Shhhhhhhh tell no one ! ;)


Zimson 2014-11-01 17:51:04
Ok, I'll keep it down. ;) Great news, though. I'm really interested in how he's going to approach it since this one will be different from the first 2.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-01 17:55:34
We've got some time before he starts though, the film got pushed from late 2015 to late 2016...


bro2014-11-01 20:35:26
Hans Zimmer wouldn't abandon Ron Howard anyway, they've been working together for a very long time now. Plus, this series' music belongs to Hans, they have his sonic identity and honestly only Lorne, Atli, Zanelli, or Zimmer could understand how to look to the future for a score for Inferno, and keeping the sonic identity of the previous scores.

rob reply Replies: 5 || 2013-11-04 03:35:28
anyone notice MOS similarities around the 6 minute mark in Science and Religion?


Anonymous2013-11-04 04:50:51
With what MOS track?


Azog, The Defiler2013-11-04 05:30:47
I just notice that some parts of Absurdity (The Lone Ranger) sounds similar to Air and the beginning of Citrine Cross (The Da Vinci Code)


rob2013-11-04 07:13:46
actually starts before the 6 min mark, starts more around the 5 minute mark and goes on for a few minutes. Not sure the exact track in MOS (ill find it) it just sounded similar when i was listening to Science and Religion


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-04 10:02:19
The Kal-El theme from Man of Steel (the one heard at the end of "Flight") is very similar to "Science and Religion", yes.


aldan2013-11-04 15:57:15
at 5:23 to be exact.

and the progression is really similar to MOS's "Goodbye My Son" 0:53 mark.

MacArthur reply Replies: 5 || 2013-10-21 19:33:18
What an Awesome Score!


Mortifer V.2013-10-21 19:37:26
yea, this and The Da Vinci Code are great.


MacArthur2013-10-21 19:46:55
Chevaliers de Sangreal is one of my all time favorites


Mike2013-10-21 21:02:19
IMO, Science and Religion beats Chevaliers de Sangreal any day of the week. That midportion is just incredible.


MacArthur2013-10-21 21:42:51
If you don't mind mike give me the time of the section and i'll listen to it


Mike2013-10-22 16:27:12
3:42-7:41.

MacArthur reply Replies: 4 || 2013-10-21 20:08:23
Thin Red line and Last samurai in Science and religion, anyone?


Phil2013-10-21 21:17:57
@MacArthur yep :)


Phil2013-10-21 21:20:37
The Thin Red Line @ 8min. 30sec :)


MacArthur2013-10-21 21:44:07
Awesome:)


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-21 23:56:28
Yeah, and from the complete score "The Arrival of the Electors" could be right out of Kingdom of Heaven.

MacArthur reply Replies: 6 || 2013-09-05 21:57:37
Where do you get the Bonus Track


Edmund Meinerts2013-09-05 23:17:10
With the rest of the complete score. ;)


MacArthur2013-09-06 03:45:33
No Seriously, It says there was a bonus track on the REGULAR one. where do I get that.


al bundy2013-09-06 09:58:04
do you ever use google at all?


Hybrid Soldier2013-09-06 12:50:35
Are you totally blind ?


Can't you click on "See details..." ??????????


Evenstar2013-09-06 13:07:01
well Hybrid, when you click on "see details" and then on the link were you can download the bonus track it says "The page you requested was not found." ;)


Hybrid Soldier2013-09-06 19:13:51
Then you have your answer, this operation expired with that link ! ;)

Aragorn reply Replies: 2 || 2013-07-10 00:34:36
Lorne must have used JNH's Eye For an Eye from Batman as a temp track when crafting "Immolation", because MAN do they sound the same.


Medigo2013-07-10 00:40:45
so what does this mean when you take "Am I not Merciful?" into account?


Aragorn2013-07-10 00:54:56
It means maybe JNH used Zimmer's "Am I Not Merciful" as a temp track when scoring that scene... :P So Immolation could be based off a temp track of a temp track, and thus we have musical Inception.

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-07 03:13:50
160 BPM makes me think of the deshi basara chant from TDKR


Illuminati2013-05-07 13:35:49
It should be the other way around. Angels & Demons came 4 years before TDKR


score_trader2013-06-06 10:07:41
Who conducted the orchestra for this score?


Bioscope2013-06-06 13:12:16
Nick Glennie-Smith

Ds reply Replies: 7 || 2013-02-26 09:46:07
Hans posted an entire track from the movie "Rush" on facebook!!


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-26 10:28:28
It's from the film's website. Very cool track, second half is a Lorne cue, of course... :P


Ds2013-02-26 11:26:55
It reminds me of The Sweeney soundtrack! Isn't it frustrating for Lorne to work so hard with Hans without getting public recognition?


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-26 11:28:23
He just did a bunch of cues on that one. 4 I've been told. Some help like Rango. :)


Jo2013-02-27 10:47:19
Which means I like Lorne's cue better, reminds me of Inception a bit. Still interested to hear the full soundtrack... so many things coming up :)


matthew2013-02-27 13:03:13
this is from the Black Hawk Down library mixed with Transformers and Rabin's Gone in 60 seconds. but a very cool mix. very brave idea because the whole universe is going the complain about this, especially this site


JamesT2013-02-27 14:00:23
I love it. I hear what sounds like references to MI:2 in there. Looking forward to everything that's yet to come!


Trent Easton Navarro2013-02-27 21:37:08
Listening to it now, and it sounds very cool. Best thing Zimmer has done in ages! Curious to the rest of the score

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2012-07-20 17:45:33
Expanded:

1. Main Title (1:09)
2. God Particle (4:14)
3. Seal the Doors/Extra Omnes (1:56)
4. No Time (2:25)
5. Follow the Path (1:37)
6. Pantheon (2:18)
7. Wrong (0:47)
8. Black Smoke I (2:01)
9. Air (7:14)
10. Black Smoke II (5:36)
11. Black Tongue (3:26)
12. Fire (3:14)
13. Cross Rome (1:55)
14. Water (1:51)
15. Castel Sant Angelo (5:43)
16. Save Camerlengo (4:21)
17. God Save Us (9:04)
18. Election by Adoration (1:52)
19. Bad Camerlengo (1:20)
20. Camerlengo on Fire/Immolation (3:37)
21. Access Granted (2:12)
22. End Title (2:12)
23. 160 BPM Suite (6:40)
24. God Save Us (Slow Insert) (2:05)
25. 160 BPM (Short Version) (1:05)

anoopa reply Replies: 1 || 2012-03-10 12:37:24
Does anyone know where I can find a tracklist of the Recording Sessions or a Complete Score? I don't want to stir up anything here I just want to be able to put the tracks I have in film order. Thanks.


Mycroft2012-03-10 16:44:27
Well, you could always just watch the movie yourself and listen for when stuff from the original soundtrack appears. Of course, that could get a bit tricky when you find stuff that's a reprise or remix of stuff on the OST and it might also leave you wanting more music than what you have.

As far as I know, no such track lists exist for what you seek.

JBourne reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-15 00:15:57
Does anyone know anything about that unreleased music released .. -->
1 - 503 (Alternative Versions)
2 - Divine Fire
3 - four pillars
4 - Galileos 3rd Text
5 - God Save Us
6 - H2O
7 - The Holy see
8 - The Vatican
The Critine Cross (Alternative Version)
The Critine Cross (New Unreleased Film Version)

Somewhat looks like a fake

Phil B reply Replies: 7 || 2011-09-01 12:20:43
expanded score 2CD


01 Main Titles - The Empty Throne - 3:52
02 Antimatter - The Eye - 4:53
03 A Proposal to Langdon - 3:59
04 The Arrival of the Electors - 1:05
05 'Fellas, You Called Me' (No SFX) - 3:20
06 Faith is a Gift - To The Archives - 2:04
07 Sealing Conclave - 1:31
08 Grey Tea - 2:04
09 To Raphael's Tomb - 4:41
10 Earth - 3:03
11 Air (No SFX) - 7:15
12 It's Black - 2:25
13 All Is Red - 2:41
14 Visiting Your Holyness (No SFX) - 3:33

CD 2
01 Fire - 6:55
02 'Cross Rome (No SFX) - 2:01
03 If It is God's Will... (No SFX) - 0:59
04 Water - 5:25
05 The Church of Illumination - 6:14
06 Running to Save the Martir - 2:56
07 The Necropolis - 1:48
08 The Camerlengo's Destiny (No SFX) - 8:44
09 Lies and Cross Keys (No SFX) - 1:47
10 Immolation (Album Version) - 3:39
11 Pope Lucas, the Last Preferitti - 2:54
12 DIII - End Titles (No SFX) - 2:14
13 160 BPM (Album Version) - 6:42
14 H2O (Bonus Track) - 1:51
15 H2O (Alternative Version) - 1:11


Phil B2011-09-01 12:21:12
is it real?

pls tell me!


Hybrid Soldier2011-09-01 12:51:33
No, it's not.


Phil2011-09-01 17:15:42
Ok, but how do you know?


Mr. Fate2011-09-01 23:16:58
Because he is Hybrid freaking Soldier! Bro, he knows everything.


D A R T H2011-09-02 00:49:35
i have it... it's a simple dvd rip (correct sound but sfx)


MasterZ2011-09-02 07:41:39
yep its a dvd rip. nothing to get excited over :/ not even the better version, this is the really old bad sounding one...


Phil2011-09-02 15:13:28
well, but much better than nothing ;)

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-26 04:13:09
From BMI, here is the info for "Air", track 9:

Songwriter/Composer

ALLISON RYELAND GRAY
BADAMI ROBERT A BMI
BALFE LORNE DAVID RODERICK
OERVARSSON OERVARR ATLI
PINDER DANIEL ELAN
RAMGOTRA SATNAM SINGH
WESSON MELVYN THOMAS
ZIMMER HANS FLORIAN

Lorene reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-24 23:21:36
This webtsie makes things hella easy.

Takehiro reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-14 18:47:27
I lost a little respect for Hans after a friend pointed out that 160BPM sounds a lot like First Born. Its too close a copy for me to like it as much anymore lol :P

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Does anyone know where I can find a tracklist of the Recording Sessions or a Complete Score? I don't want to stir up anything here I just want to be able to put the tracks I have in film order. Thanks.

Gavin Salkeld - Composer reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Hybrid, perhaps you can post the expanded score in another new thread? Along with The Da Vinci Code?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
God Save Us?

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Watch what you say, you never know if the moderators will come after you. I know of no "Recording Sessions" for Angels & Demons, only some crappy expanded loaded with SFX

Takehiro reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
I dont think discussing stuff is not allowed - after all, they're posted here for discussion. Asking for download links is another matter.

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Yeah, I don't want download links or anything like that. I just want a proper tracklist so that I can sort the tracks I have into film order. I have recently come across a few unreleased cues and I want to know where to put them so I can listen to my album in proper film order. If the moderators get irritated over that, then they need to take their heads out of their @$$.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Well there's nothing I know about A&D...

As for credits, Brad, with tracklist, there are tons on ASCAP... I did post them on the forum... But I have no idea about actual film order...

I think the OST is pretty much well done... 160BPM is a Theme Suite... Rest is "pretty much" in correct order...

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-10 00:00:00
I hope a recording sessions will weak somehow. I already listened to "God Save Us", a variation on a theme of Science And Religion, and I'm amazed :)

ybalam@hotmail.com reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-30 00:00:00
NO TENGO PALABRA PARA COMENTARLES LO MUCHO QUE ME GUSTO LA MÚSICA Y LA PELÍCULA PERO EN ESPECIAL LA MÚSICA ME ENCANTO MI RESPETO PARA USTEDES USTEDES SI SABEN LLEGAR AL ALMA CON UN SOLO TOQUE WAUU WAAUU SR. HANS ZIMMER MIS RESPETOS GRACIAS POR SU MÚSICA MUCHAS GRACIAS

KevinZsun reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-26 00:00:00
@Mr. Bean, i have noticed that, the"pop",too. Then I can find the same pop in Canada and Australia albums, too. Air is one of my favorite track!

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