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The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.
Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me knowThe clips are on his Facebook page.
2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)
"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?
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Angels & Demons
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  1. 160 BPM (6:42)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. God Particle (5:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson, Mel Wesson
  3. Air (9:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson, Geoff Zanelli, Mel Wesson
  4. Fire (6:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  5. Black Smoke (5:45)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Mel Wesson
  6. Science And Religion (12:27)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. Immolation (3:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  8. Election By Adoration (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. 503 (2:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  10. Bonus Track : H2O (1:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson
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Ay Britton reply Replies: 0 || 2019-04-09 13:42:26
I would like to know if there are backing tracks available for violinists I am particularly interested in Science and Religion and 503.

Many thanks

Zach reply Replies: 2 || 2016-10-28 21:10:18
In the track "Smashing The Ring" (It's actually featured on this site), there is a Gregorian style chant around 1:22 - does anyone know if this is a pre-existing/traditional chant that they used or did Hans (or someone else) write it? I really like it.


Leonard2016-10-28 21:54:22
This is indeed a pre-existing Greogorian chant. It's the chant "Requiem Aeternam" from the mass of the dead. If you like it you shoud check out the Requiem by Maurice Duruflé which is entirely based on the chants from the mass of the dead.


Zach2016-10-28 22:18:07
Thanks for the quick and informative response!

JamesT reply Replies: 4 || 2016-05-11 03:20:58
Inferno trailer is out! Looking forward to this one from Ron and Hans!!!

https: // www. youtube.com /watch?v=xbNBB1D37U8


Dfault2016-05-11 18:35:19
That track in this preview, is that the first peak at the album? It seems more electronic (as Hans already pointed out)


...2016-05-11 19:03:00
There's not a chance in hell that that is from the actual score. That's just trailer music.


i2016-05-11 20:01:28
That music is shit.




Dfault2016-05-11 20:17:36
Never mind indeed, thought when i first saw it 2 days ago the it could be new music, listened to it now again, i doubt it ^^

matthew reply Replies: 1 || 2015-06-06 21:32:52
so I'm going home today but I couldn't because the road was blocked and what I'm seeing is Ron Howard basically directing a scene from Inferno in downtown Budapest. I know its crazy and dump but, I mean, my first thought was: this means HZ already did some serious early work for this!


Zimson2015-06-06 22:39:28
Likely, considering that he starts writing suites very early in the process with this kind of projects.
However we won't get to hear shit untill the movie is about to be released. ;)

... reply Replies: 4 || 2015-01-07 18:28:02
I just saw that inferno is no longer listed on hans' page...
Will he not score it or is it just not confirmed?


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-07 18:53:52
Well don't worry he will, it's just way too early, In The Heart Of The Sea isn't even released yet...


bro2015-01-07 19:36:18
I'm surprised Hans wasn't involved with that.


Edmund Meinerts2015-01-07 19:58:42
Good ol' Spanish tax laws! ;)

Anyways, even though he's been using Hans pretty consistently over the last decade or so, Ron Howard has never been a one-composer kind of guy.

What I'm more surprised about is that Inferno is even still being made. I kind of get the feeling that the world is over the whole Dan Brown religious thriller thing.


Hybrid Soldier2015-01-07 20:02:04
He would have, bro, without that Spanish Tax Break ! :P

Zimson reply Replies: 4 || 2014-11-01 16:41:53
So, is Hans really confirmed for Inferno now (since it already appears in his profile)?


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-01 17:17:19
Shhhhhhhh tell no one ! ;)


Zimson 2014-11-01 17:51:04
Ok, I'll keep it down. ;) Great news, though. I'm really interested in how he's going to approach it since this one will be different from the first 2.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-01 17:55:34
We've got some time before he starts though, the film got pushed from late 2015 to late 2016...


bro2014-11-01 20:35:26
Hans Zimmer wouldn't abandon Ron Howard anyway, they've been working together for a very long time now. Plus, this series' music belongs to Hans, they have his sonic identity and honestly only Lorne, Atli, Zanelli, or Zimmer could understand how to look to the future for a score for Inferno, and keeping the sonic identity of the previous scores.

rob reply Replies: 5 || 2013-11-04 03:35:28
anyone notice MOS similarities around the 6 minute mark in Science and Religion?


Anonymous2013-11-04 04:50:51
With what MOS track?


Azog, The Defiler2013-11-04 05:30:47
I just notice that some parts of Absurdity (The Lone Ranger) sounds similar to Air and the beginning of Citrine Cross (The Da Vinci Code)


rob2013-11-04 07:13:46
actually starts before the 6 min mark, starts more around the 5 minute mark and goes on for a few minutes. Not sure the exact track in MOS (ill find it) it just sounded similar when i was listening to Science and Religion


Edmund Meinerts2013-11-04 10:02:19
The Kal-El theme from Man of Steel (the one heard at the end of "Flight") is very similar to "Science and Religion", yes.


aldan2013-11-04 15:57:15
at 5:23 to be exact.

and the progression is really similar to MOS's "Goodbye My Son" 0:53 mark.

MacArthur reply Replies: 5 || 2013-10-21 19:33:18
What an Awesome Score!


Mortifer V.2013-10-21 19:37:26
yea, this and The Da Vinci Code are great.


MacArthur2013-10-21 19:46:55
Chevaliers de Sangreal is one of my all time favorites


Mike2013-10-21 21:02:19
IMO, Science and Religion beats Chevaliers de Sangreal any day of the week. That midportion is just incredible.


MacArthur2013-10-21 21:42:51
If you don't mind mike give me the time of the section and i'll listen to it


Mike2013-10-22 16:27:12
3:42-7:41.

MacArthur reply Replies: 4 || 2013-10-21 20:08:23
Thin Red line and Last samurai in Science and religion, anyone?


Phil2013-10-21 21:17:57
@MacArthur yep :)


Phil2013-10-21 21:20:37
The Thin Red Line @ 8min. 30sec :)


MacArthur2013-10-21 21:44:07
Awesome:)


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-21 23:56:28
Yeah, and from the complete score "The Arrival of the Electors" could be right out of Kingdom of Heaven.

MacArthur reply Replies: 6 || 2013-09-05 21:57:37
Where do you get the Bonus Track


Edmund Meinerts2013-09-05 23:17:10
With the rest of the complete score. ;)


MacArthur2013-09-06 03:45:33
No Seriously, It says there was a bonus track on the REGULAR one. where do I get that.


al bundy2013-09-06 09:58:04
do you ever use google at all?


Hybrid Soldier2013-09-06 12:50:35
Are you totally blind ?


Can't you click on "See details..." ??????????


Evenstar2013-09-06 13:07:01
well Hybrid, when you click on "see details" and then on the link were you can download the bonus track it says "The page you requested was not found." ;)


Hybrid Soldier2013-09-06 19:13:51
Then you have your answer, this operation expired with that link ! ;)

Aragorn reply Replies: 2 || 2013-07-10 00:34:36
Lorne must have used JNH's Eye For an Eye from Batman as a temp track when crafting "Immolation", because MAN do they sound the same.


Medigo2013-07-10 00:40:45
so what does this mean when you take "Am I not Merciful?" into account?


Aragorn2013-07-10 00:54:56
It means maybe JNH used Zimmer's "Am I Not Merciful" as a temp track when scoring that scene... :P So Immolation could be based off a temp track of a temp track, and thus we have musical Inception.

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-07 03:13:50
160 BPM makes me think of the deshi basara chant from TDKR


Illuminati2013-05-07 13:35:49
It should be the other way around. Angels & Demons came 4 years before TDKR


score_trader2013-06-06 10:07:41
Who conducted the orchestra for this score?


Bioscope2013-06-06 13:12:16
Nick Glennie-Smith

Ds reply Replies: 7 || 2013-02-26 09:46:07
Hans posted an entire track from the movie "Rush" on facebook!!

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Hybrid Soldier2013-02-26 10:28:28
It's from the film's website. Very cool track, second half is a Lorne cue, of course... :P


Ds2013-02-26 11:26:55
It reminds me of The Sweeney soundtrack! Isn't it frustrating for Lorne to work so hard with Hans without getting public recognition?


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-26 11:28:23
He just did a bunch of cues on that one. 4 I've been told. Some help like Rango. :)


Jo2013-02-27 10:47:19
Which means I like Lorne's cue better, reminds me of Inception a bit. Still interested to hear the full soundtrack... so many things coming up :)


matthew2013-02-27 13:03:13
this is from the Black Hawk Down library mixed with Transformers and Rabin's Gone in 60 seconds. but a very cool mix. very brave idea because the whole universe is going the complain about this, especially this site


JamesT2013-02-27 14:00:23
I love it. I hear what sounds like references to MI:2 in there. Looking forward to everything that's yet to come!


Trent Easton Navarro2013-02-27 21:37:08
Listening to it now, and it sounds very cool. Best thing Zimmer has done in ages! Curious to the rest of the score

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2012-07-20 17:45:33
Expanded:

1. Main Title (1:09)
2. God Particle (4:14)
3. Seal the Doors/Extra Omnes (1:56)
4. No Time (2:25)
5. Follow the Path (1:37)
6. Pantheon (2:18)
7. Wrong (0:47)
8. Black Smoke I (2:01)
9. Air (7:14)
10. Black Smoke II (5:36)
11. Black Tongue (3:26)
12. Fire (3:14)
13. Cross Rome (1:55)
14. Water (1:51)
15. Castel Sant Angelo (5:43)
16. Save Camerlengo (4:21)
17. God Save Us (9:04)
18. Election by Adoration (1:52)
19. Bad Camerlengo (1:20)
20. Camerlengo on Fire/Immolation (3:37)
21. Access Granted (2:12)
22. End Title (2:12)
23. 160 BPM Suite (6:40)
24. God Save Us (Slow Insert) (2:05)
25. 160 BPM (Short Version) (1:05)

anoopa reply Replies: 1 || 2012-03-10 12:37:24
Does anyone know where I can find a tracklist of the Recording Sessions or a Complete Score? I don't want to stir up anything here I just want to be able to put the tracks I have in film order. Thanks.


Mycroft2012-03-10 16:44:27
Well, you could always just watch the movie yourself and listen for when stuff from the original soundtrack appears. Of course, that could get a bit tricky when you find stuff that's a reprise or remix of stuff on the OST and it might also leave you wanting more music than what you have.

As far as I know, no such track lists exist for what you seek.

JBourne reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-15 00:15:57
Does anyone know anything about that unreleased music released .. -->
1 - 503 (Alternative Versions)
2 - Divine Fire
3 - four pillars
4 - Galileos 3rd Text
5 - God Save Us
6 - H2O
7 - The Holy see
8 - The Vatican
The Critine Cross (Alternative Version)
The Critine Cross (New Unreleased Film Version)

Somewhat looks like a fake

Phil B reply Replies: 7 || 2011-09-01 12:20:43
expanded score 2CD


01 Main Titles - The Empty Throne - 3:52
02 Antimatter - The Eye - 4:53
03 A Proposal to Langdon - 3:59
04 The Arrival of the Electors - 1:05
05 'Fellas, You Called Me' (No SFX) - 3:20
06 Faith is a Gift - To The Archives - 2:04
07 Sealing Conclave - 1:31
08 Grey Tea - 2:04
09 To Raphael's Tomb - 4:41
10 Earth - 3:03
11 Air (No SFX) - 7:15
12 It's Black - 2:25
13 All Is Red - 2:41
14 Visiting Your Holyness (No SFX) - 3:33

CD 2
01 Fire - 6:55
02 'Cross Rome (No SFX) - 2:01
03 If It is God's Will... (No SFX) - 0:59
04 Water - 5:25
05 The Church of Illumination - 6:14
06 Running to Save the Martir - 2:56
07 The Necropolis - 1:48
08 The Camerlengo's Destiny (No SFX) - 8:44
09 Lies and Cross Keys (No SFX) - 1:47
10 Immolation (Album Version) - 3:39
11 Pope Lucas, the Last Preferitti - 2:54
12 DIII - End Titles (No SFX) - 2:14
13 160 BPM (Album Version) - 6:42
14 H2O (Bonus Track) - 1:51
15 H2O (Alternative Version) - 1:11


Phil B2011-09-01 12:21:12
is it real?

pls tell me!


Hybrid Soldier2011-09-01 12:51:33
No, it's not.


Phil2011-09-01 17:15:42
Ok, but how do you know?


Mr. Fate2011-09-01 23:16:58
Because he is Hybrid freaking Soldier! Bro, he knows everything.


D A R T H2011-09-02 00:49:35
i have it... it's a simple dvd rip (correct sound but sfx)


MasterZ2011-09-02 07:41:39
yep its a dvd rip. nothing to get excited over :/ not even the better version, this is the really old bad sounding one...


Phil2011-09-02 15:13:28
well, but much better than nothing ;)

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-26 04:13:09
From BMI, here is the info for "Air", track 9:

Songwriter/Composer

ALLISON RYELAND GRAY
BADAMI ROBERT A BMI
BALFE LORNE DAVID RODERICK
OERVARSSON OERVARR ATLI
PINDER DANIEL ELAN
RAMGOTRA SATNAM SINGH
WESSON MELVYN THOMAS
ZIMMER HANS FLORIAN

Lorene reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-24 23:21:36
This webtsie makes things hella easy.

Takehiro reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-14 18:47:27
I lost a little respect for Hans after a friend pointed out that 160BPM sounds a lot like First Born. Its too close a copy for me to like it as much anymore lol :P

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Does anyone know where I can find a tracklist of the Recording Sessions or a Complete Score? I don't want to stir up anything here I just want to be able to put the tracks I have in film order. Thanks.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
God Save Us?

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Watch what you say, you never know if the moderators will come after you. I know of no "Recording Sessions" for Angels & Demons, only some crappy expanded loaded with SFX

Takehiro reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
I dont think discussing stuff is not allowed - after all, they're posted here for discussion. Asking for download links is another matter.

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Yeah, I don't want download links or anything like that. I just want a proper tracklist so that I can sort the tracks I have into film order. I have recently come across a few unreleased cues and I want to know where to put them so I can listen to my album in proper film order. If the moderators get irritated over that, then they need to take their heads out of their @$$.

Gavin Salkeld - Composer reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Hybrid, perhaps you can post the expanded score in another new thread? Along with The Da Vinci Code?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-12 00:00:00
Well there's nothing I know about A&D...

As for credits, Brad, with tracklist, there are tons on ASCAP... I did post them on the forum... But I have no idea about actual film order...

I think the OST is pretty much well done... 160BPM is a Theme Suite... Rest is "pretty much" in correct order...

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-10 00:00:00
I hope a recording sessions will weak somehow. I already listened to "God Save Us", a variation on a theme of Science And Religion, and I'm amazed :)

ybalam@hotmail.com reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-30 00:00:00
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