Music Composed by Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard
Additional Music by Lorne Balfe Ambient Music Design: Mel Wesson Music Arranged by Henry Jackman Album Produced by Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard Album Co-Produced by Alex Gibson & Lorne Balfe Soloists: Ryeland Allison, Michael Levine, Heitor Pereira, Satnam Ramgotra & Martin Tillman Synth Programming: Hans Zimmer & Howard Scarr Sequencer Programming: Thomas Broderick, Jacob Shea & Noah Sorota Music Editors: Alex Gibson & Daniel Pinder Assistant Music Editor: Ryan Rubin Technical Score Engineers: Peter "Oso" Snell & Stuart Thomas Technical Assistant: Chris Bacon Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry Sample Development: Claudius Brüse, Zain Effendi & Michael Hobe Orchestrators: Bruce Fowler, Jeff Atmajian, Brad Dechter, Elizabeth Finch, Kevin Kaska, Randy Kerber, Suzette Moriarty & Walter Fowler Orchestra Contractor: Isobel Griffiths Assistant Orchestra Contractor: Charlotte Matthews Score Coordinator: Becky Bentham Music Preparation: Mark Graham, JoAnn Kane Music Service, Los Angeles, CA & Dakota Music, London, UK
Score Recorded at Air Lyndhurst, London, UK, Remote Control Productions, Santa Monica, CA & James Newton Howard Studios, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Music Recorded by Geoff Foster Assistant Engineer: Chris Barrett
Music Conducted by Matt Dunkley, Bruce Fowler & Gavin Greenaway Orchestra Leader: Rose Warren-Green
Principal Viola: Peter Late Principal Cello: Anthony Pleeth Principal Bass: Mary Scully Percussion: Frank Ricotti, Gary Kettel & Paul Clarvis Horn: Richard Watkins Trumpet: Maurice Murphy Trombone: Pete Davies Tuba: Owen Slade Synthesizers: Hans Zimmer Piano: James Newton Howard & Simon Chamberlain
Music Production Services: Steven Kofsky Score Mixed by Alan Meyerson Score Mixed at Remote Control Productions, Santa Monica, CA
Additional Recording by Jeff Biggers Assistant Engineers: Katia Lewin & Greg Vines Album Compilation: Daniel Pinder Album Mastered by Louie Teran at Marcussen Mastering Studios Production Coordinator for Hans Zimmer: Andrew Zack Scoring Coordinator for James Newton Howard: Pamela Sollie Studio Manager for Remote Control Productions: Czarina Russell Album Business Affairs: Keith Zajic, Marc Cimino & Lisa Margolis Music Administration for Warner Bros. Pictures: Debi Streeter
Special Thanks: Christopher Nolan, Alan Horn, Jeff Robinov, Kevin McCormick, Greg Silverman, Charles Roven, Emma Thomas, & Thomas Tull
Hans Zimmer would like to thank Tiffany Bordenave, Ben Burfield, Ronni Chasen, Sibylle Engel, Will Greig, Andrew Kawczynski, Allie Lee, Christina Mansky, Tom Rann, Jeff Sanderson, Adam Schmidt, Shalini Singh, Chris Strong & Dr. Helge Topka. Special thanks to Suzanne Zimmer & the mini Z's, Zoe Zimmer & Brigitte Zimmer
James Newton Howard would like to thank: Annica Ackerman, Anouk Ackerman, Jackson & Hayden Howard
Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard would like to thank: Christopher Nolan, Emma Thomas, Charles Roven, Lee Smith, Chris Barrett, Becky Bentham, Alison Burton & the staff at Air Studios, Phil Cirocco, Fiona Cruickshank, Ramin Djawadi, Geoff Foster, Doug Frank, Michael Gorfaine, Isobel Griffiths, Urs Heckmann, Richard King, Steven Kofsky, Abbie Lister, Lisa Margolis, & Sam Schwartz
Thanks: Rebecca Aguilar, Carter Armstrong, Ivona Belda, Maria Belli, Joseph Bille, Lor Blackstone, David Blaikley, Candace Carlo, Suzi Civita, Stephanie Comfort, Patti Connolly, Pamela Cresant, Kevin Delanoy, Suzanne Fritz, Diane Gascoigne, Kerrylyn Genetive, Jordan Goldberg, Danny Gould, Eileen Hale, David Hall, Dirk Hebert, Darren Higman, Carla Holt, Jay Hughen, Natalia Jacke, Gita Jackson, Ernie Johnston, Sue Kroll, Melisa Levine, Kris Little, Kathy Malloy, Nigel McCorry, Kari Miazek, Kristin Moffett, Melissa Musson, Joe Palmer, Keren Poznansky, Xavier Ramos, Kari Rohr, Susan Shapiro, Niki Sherrod, Jennifer Sink, Jodi Tack, Shane Thompson, Bobby Thornburg, Michele Wilcox & James Wood
Release date : 12/09/2008
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Can anyone provide me with ideas or information on how to replace disc two of this set without shelling out ridiculous amounts of money? For the second time ever I attempted to take disc two out to make a copy of it and, while being extremely careful and not pulling to much, it cracked straight down the middle.
What garbage packaging. Would it have been that much harder to put a small tray back in there? The walls are already thick enough. Anyways any information/help would be great. Thanks
Yes. It's called torrent
Yea, obviously I did that already. However, I would like to replace the disc. I sent a few emails out to a few Warner Brothers websites.
In one interview for this movie Hans addresses the "lack of traditional theme" criticism and says, "There was this big, more traditional theme at one point and it took me six months to talk Chris out of using it....."
Was he referring the unused section of Like a Dog Chasing Cars?
Why would he write a big theme and then talk Chris OUT of using it?
Yeah, that was my reaction, too....
According to Hans' own words, we've still never heard that "more traditional theme", so it isn't "Like a Dog Chasing Cars". He said and I quote:
"Because we were trying some very different things. I remember having a safety heroic tune written, which I didn't like very much, but it was in case anyone would turn round to us and go, "hang on, he's supposed to be a superhero and you're doing this two-note thing here!" On the second one, the super heroic thing came out of the drawer and Chris said, 'I quite like this...' And I kept saying, 'But the character hasn't earned it!" **By the time we got to the third one, really what the character became was the antithesis to that theme so it's in a bin somewhere**. The way we work is, we put everything, every idea into the movie that we're in front of. We don't ever think if there's going to be another. You don't keep anything in reserve, either."
That's interesting and disappointing. :( I wonder whether he's used it in another score since, or whether it's still hidden away somewhere...
What's the source of this article?? How do we know Hans didn't slip it into TDKR somewhere??
Maybe Hybrid Soldier can answer for us
Adam, it was an Empire Magazine career interview on MoS, TDKR, and other stuff...and anyhow, his comment makes it look like it wasn't even in TDKR, because note that he says, "By the time we got to the third one, the character was the antithesis of that theme so it's in a bin somewhere..."
Hey, does anyone know anything about a 3CD promotional version of this? I found a seemingly alternative version of Like a Dog Chasing Cars on Youtube (watch?v=ogED1jkr5QM) and someone in the comments section mentioned it. I haven't heard this track before, it's really neat and I'm wondering what other albums are really out there.
Richard, it's exactly what one of the users o YouTue say it is: "Like A Dog Chasing Cars" (New Batman Theme) but the tone/pitching is higher. It's that simple. There's no 3CD set going around that's bs. There is the standard OST. There is this 2-Disc Collector's Edition. There is the FYC Promo. There is the Complete Score which is an unofficial release. That is all.
I've listened to Dog Chasing Cars tons of times. I know an alt. track when I see one. I hear things in this that aren't found elsewhere, so either it's from the recording sessions, (the "Complete Score"), or it's from this 3cd thing. I'm aware it may be bs, but what I mean is some form of recording sessions just put together to make an unofficial release. Just wondering the details here, that's all.
Not an alt, simple pitch/tone shift as Anon says.
I specifically hear little additions that aren't on the normal version... but that's just what I hear. Agree to disagree I guess.
rip the track from youtube and shift the pitch back to normal and see if you still think the same
Whoa, I always thought "A Little Push" was by Zimmer.
You can never tell with these scores, can you...? ;)
BTW, does anyone know who did Molossus on Begins?
Hans Zimmer, Mel Wesson (ambient background stuff), Lorne Balfe (arrangements), and James Newton Howard (one of his themes is in there a couple times). Every one is a little bit of everywhere. Though I'm doing an analysis of Hybrid's analysis, which may be incorrect. Go to the Batman Begins CD page.... :P
I love this score because here, the additional composers really are ONLY ADDITIONAL. I don't really mind them, but it's nice to see them used as one would expect.
well on most of the scores it is additional. like arranging, orchestration. such is the case in the TDKR and in most of Zimmer's other scores now some of the background stuff is or might be written by the others. but for the most part it is Zimmer. for instance you might have one cue like say watchful guardian it was written by Zimmer but arranged by Balfe and Zimmer also and one 50 second cue was written by another composer. but for the Most part it was Zimmer
Well no, but here Zimmer HIMSELF did the scene-to-scene music for the most part. Look at all the stuff his name alone is on with TDK. Of course there's the James Newton Howard cues, but for the Zimmer stuff, only about 4 cues have another name attached. On most Zimmer scores, the majority of cues will be done by someone other than Zimmer, even if the music they use is Zimmer all the way.
Well give a few examples.
Because I think like in the Dark knight rises score most of it is Zimmer. He composed it. but it would be a track kinda like the Man of Steel sketchbook not quite as full as the main theme but as a whole it is the same thing. but it would be like adding on to that theme (arranging) and that is why they are given credit because they helped with the scoring even though it was Zimmer who wrote it. and also you might look at ti this way. Gore Verbinski played guitar on POTC3 and he is credited on the track listing does that mean he wrote it, no not at all just helped play on the song and help in adding depth to the song. see my point.
I'm not saying Zimmer didn't compose the music that the other guys arranged. I just mean that in The Dark Knight, he not only composed but also ARRANGED the music to the scenes himself. He doesn't do the arranging by himself in most movies.
I see your point there. On the track Like A Dog Chasing Cars Zimmer did that himself and also on the A Dark Knight, and Aggressive Expansion. But i'm also disagree because on scores such as crimson tide he did most of that on Rush he is doing most of that and also on Man of steel he did most of that and Lone Ranger. He did Most of those HImself. the Dark Knight Rises he did Imagine the Fire, Gotham's Reckoning and Most of Rise The final Track Himself.
Actually now that i look at it most of the Dark Knight Rises Is Hans Zimmer
What I'd Like to Know is Why didn't Batman Begins Get Released as a 2 disc Edition or will it ever?
Also one more thing what did Balfe do on watchful Guardian
Didn't mean to rate it 2 stars it is five star I just click it before i Figured out how to do it
Lorne Balfe did the end credits section of A Watchful Guardian, using Hans' music.
To be even more specific, the "DUN DUN DUN DUN" beginning part is a Hans cue, but then it goes into part of Lorne's cue from the track "And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad". Lorne arranged the music like that, but it's all Hans material.
So Basically It was Hans Just Arranged By Balfe.
What About the cue After I Thought my Jokes were bad. The One that is in A Dark Knight right before the climax of that track. That sounds like Zimmer. oh and Mike how do you know all this stuff do you know hans Zimmer or Something?
It's kind of easy to identify Lorne's contributions. His motifs are heavily influenced by his celtic background, much like the end credits theme on MW2. look for the melancholy hook that sounds very celtic.
I Get That. but the end credits was written by Zimmer and Arranged by Balfe that was my point except for the i Thought My Jokes were bad section and even that was written by Hans partly.
No, no, unfortunately I don't know Zimmer: I just read the comments on this site and listen to his music a lot, so it gets easy to pick up. Anyways, you're right, the last part of the credits is indeed Zimmer, but it was Lorne who put it there in the credits for him.
But yes, that's correct, basically it was Hans arranged by Balfe.
Ok I just wanted to make sure
cause i was thinking wait Zimmer Wrote That stuff. whats going on here.lol
TDK only got a 2 disc release so that the movie would make even more money. BB didn't make as much money as TDK so they didn't try a 2 disc release.
hey anybody know where i can find the tdk cue from where two-face is threatening maroni in the limo? it sounds like the beginning of 'like a dog chasing cars'.... it's not on any official or unofficial album...
I know this is an awfully late reply, but it's 2:00 onwards in "Sonar System" in the complete score. :P
Like below, I too am looking for a rough film-playing order for this. I don't care for seeking out bootlegs, but this is a great package and wanted to know how to order the tracks into more or less the right sequencing. Thank you.
If you don't want to do any editing at all, then it should roughly go like this: Why So Serious?* I'm Not A Hero Bank Robbery Buyer Beware Harvey Two-Face* Blood On My Hands Aggresive Expansion You're Gonna Love Me I Am The Batman Chance A Little Push Always A Catch Decent Men In An Indecent Time You Complete Me Agent of Chaos And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad The Ferries Like A Dog Chasing Cars* Introduce A Little Anarchy We Are Tonight's Entertainment Watch The World Burn A Watchful Guardian A Dark Knight* *These are obviously the theme suites for the movie. The movie should start with Bank Robbery and end with A Watchful Guardian, but for a better listening experience, that's how I have them. Except for Like A Dog Chasing Cars, I put it at the end before A Dark Knight since really only the first minute or so is in the movie. I honestly couldn't think of a logical place to put Halfway to Hong Kong since it's an unused alternate, so that's up to you. This is obviously a really rough order since some cues were put together out of order, but this is really the best that can be done. Hope it helps :)
Thank you MGDrone. I do not mind doing some editing. I appreciate this much but do you have a kind of edited version order instead? Again thank you.
Hey Leo, sorry it took me so long to respond. I had to check the movie and listen carefully to the soundtrack just to be sure I wasn't missing anything, but here it is:
Decent Men In An Indecent Time - 1:55-End
Bank Robbery - 0:00-5:18.5
Why So Serious - 9:11.5-End
I'm Not A Hero - 0:00-1:40
Bank Robbery - 5:18.5-End
Blood On My Hands
I'm Not A Hero - 1:40-2:40.5
Aggressive Expansion - 0:43-1:59
I'm Not A Hero - 2:40.5-End
Harvey Two-Face - 1:50-3:20
You're Gonna Love Me - 0:00-0:59
Aggressive Expansion - 1:59-End
You're Gonna Love Me - 0:59-End
I Am The Batman
Chance - 0:00-1:23.5
A Little Push
Chance - 1:23.5-End
You Complete Me - 3:55-End
Always A Catch - 0:00-0:45
Decent Men In An Indecent Time - 0:00-0:49
You Complete Me - 0:00-1:37
Agent of Chaos
You Complete Me - 1:37-3:55
Ferries - 0:00-0:59
And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad
Ferries - 0:59-End
Like A Dog Chasing Cars*
Introduce A Little Anarchy
We Are Tonight's Entertainment
Watch The World Burn
A Watchful Guardian
*This is definitely NOT the film version because in the film it cuts off at about 2:02 but here it continues in it's suite-like version. You'll know what I mean if you listen to the film version of the end credits. You could do three things: leave it the way it is; cut it at 2:02 although it will not sound right or match the film version; get the film version of the end credits and copy and edit it from there.
As you can imagine, this is quite rough. The minute marks aren't exactly where the should be, you'll probably have to adjust that a bit. A lot of these tracks are not the film versions, but they're essetially the same. Also, a whole lot of tidbits of music are repeated several times throughout the movie, and I didn't repeat them here since it would end up being a less interesting listening experience. Hope you enjoy :) Btw, what program do you use to break and and put together tracks?
Does anyone know -- roughly, as I know some cues are mixed together -- what order I can put these into that resembles the film order? I like listening to my scores in order in WinAmp :)
i would also like to know this. anyone pleaseeeeeeeee? :D
Yes. Download the complete score. There's your film order
This album is the complete suites of the dark knight score.
no, strongly don't think so
I have all three versions of the dark knight and batman begins score but i see that the special 2cd score is the better ... :)
better then the recording sessions? ehm, okay?
Hi,all of you; the 2cd special edition the names of tracks are impressive because you noticed the tracks don't matched with the current movie actions,Hans.Z take some says from the movie and named the tracks like decent men in indecent time and chance,but the complete score tracks names describe every action in the movie correctly,i wish you understand me !
I think that posting links on Chief Dundee's blog (or other blogs of course) is probably what killed the bootleg business. Bootlegging is an "undercover", "not-a-word-about" business... and not a marketplace where you download anything for free, screaming "I have this stuff, I can send it to everybody" !!! I know for sure that there is something like 15 to 25 true MV/RC complete unreleased scores available for "good bootleggers", but they won't let them leak/spread on the internet because of guys like Chief Dundee, because he will immediately kill the value of the music itself.
Hans Zimmer è il miglior compositore dei nostri giorni,io sono cresciuta con la sua 'Musica'(se cosi posso definirla visto che la ritengo una vera e propria colonna sonora di vita),da il Gladietore a The Dark Knight,melodie ke ti riempono la mente e ti fanno pensare a lungo,melodie che mi hanno dato modo di VIAGGIARE cin la mente...Grazie Hans.