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Hallo,<br><br>Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht šlter geworden. Genial.<br><br>GruŖ  <br><br>Not bad score.<br><br>But I prefer the other oneIsnít that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?<br><br>For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80ís beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.
Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.
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The Chronicles Of Narnia - Prince Caspian
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 74'02 (Score: 62'55)
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  1. Prince Caspian Flees (4:33)
  2. The Kings And Queens Of Old (3:26)
  3. Journey To The How (4:39)
  4. Arrival At Aslan's How (2:53)
  5. Raid On The Castle (7:00)
  6. Miraz Crowned (4:42)
  7. Sorcery And Sudden Vengeance (6:15)
  8. The Duel (5:51)
  9. The Armies Assemble (2:17)
  10. Battle At Aslan's How (5:14)
  11. Return Of The Lion (4:10)
  12. The Door In The Air (7:50)
  13. The Call - Regina Spektor (3:07) *
  14. A Dance 'Round the Memory Tree - Oren Lavie (3:38)
  15. This Is Home - Switchfoot (3:58)
  16. Lucy - Hanne Hukkelberg (4:31)
*Arranged & produced by Harry Gregson-Williams
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Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-29 21:00:57
was harry ever in talks to do narnia 3 or was he scrapped from the get go?


Mike2014-08-01 20:25:11
He was scrapped, and he said in an interview that it was entirely because of the new director, but that he had no hard feelings. He only did the first two because of his relationship with that Andrew Adamson, so when the director was changed, it was logical that HGW would go. He did say, though, that he would be disappointed if Andrew Adamson returned for Narnia 4 and asked for Arnold instead. ;)

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-09 22:54:34
I know Stephen Barton did Miraz Crowned, but did he also do Journey to the How ("In the Boat" on the complete score, I believe it's called)?. It starts out with a sound IDENTICAL to the beginning of All Ghillied Up in COD4.

MacArthur reply Replies: 17 || 2013-10-01 21:38:19
Kinda bummed that Gregson-Williams didn't use the cue from the Battle in the First Narnia.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-01 21:50:58
He did! Bits and pieces of it are all over the action music in Prince Caspian. Plus, why would you want him to reuse the same music?


MacArthur2013-10-01 23:16:30
I don't want him too. but too use that would just have been cool like the Raiders march use in all the Indiana Jones soundtracks.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-01 23:50:28
But the Raiders March is a theme, not an entire seven minute cue. I wouldn't want the "Desert Chase" to pop up in Last Crusade, for instance. As for themes from the first Narnia, HGW carries them over plenty.


MacArthur2013-10-02 00:02:11
Well I do know that I don't want the the Desert chase the whole time either I'm talking the cue from 0:37 too 1:17 that particular Arrangement is awesome and I would have liked to have it in the second film. But you can't always get what you want.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-02 00:10:02
Ah, I see. Yeah, I love that moment too. Still, overall I think Prince Caspian is a better score than the one that came before it (and after it, for that matter).


Mike2013-10-02 00:24:07
Prince Caspian for me is one of those scores where I like the album better than the full score, since the album highlights the new material. Every single time I see that movie, I feel like it suffers from a bit too much reuse/temp tracking. For example, the way they reused the "White Witch" and "Evacuating London" cues when the Pevensies enter Narnia, or the way they reused...one of the cues which I don't remember the name of...when Lucy first saw Aslan. There were other examples as well, but I would have to either listen to the score or watch the movie to remember them precisely.

Unrelated, I found it a shame that several minutes of the castle raid sequence (before the album track plays) were nowhere on the album.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-02 00:36:46
Yeah, I agree Mike. There's a few too many cues just tracked in from the first one...not nearly as bad as On Stranger Tides or The Dark Knight Rises, though. And the new material is good, especially some of the action music.

Good point about the first half of the castle raid sequence. Can't believe that was missing from the album compared with some of the tracked stuff they did put on. Reepicheep's little muted trumpet theme is brilliant! Ultimately I think both the complete score and the album are lacking, and the best thing is to kinda build your own album out of the best bits from the complete. ;)


MacArthur2013-10-02 00:38:39
Oh yeah Caspian Is a great score.


Mike2013-10-02 16:24:29
Edmund, are you judging TDKR off the album? Because the album is most of the reused music in the movie (sadly; awful presentation of the score). Within the film there is a lot of new material, and I'd say the reused stuff is the minority of the score.


MacArthur2013-10-02 17:41:29
I love the Dark Knight Rises Score. And I don't think it repeated music too much......Now POTC4 did.


Edmund Meinerts2013-10-02 17:46:12
A lot of the action cues like "Batman Chased" seem like they're cobbled together from the action music in BB and TDK. But mostly my issue is with the finale ("Rise" on album) which is basically a weaker rehash of "A Dark Knight". But I've also heard the complete score and it still strikes me as though there's too much tracking in. Sure there's some new material, and it's better than On Stranger Tides (to be fair, everything's better than On Stranger Tides), but it's still a disappointment I think. The vast majority of the new material is in the suites Zimmer wrote and a lot of that stuff didn't even make the film, which makes me wonder how much Nolan is to blame as well.


Mike2013-10-02 18:01:16
I would suggest giving it another listen. The only really notable rehashes are, as you said, "Batman Chased" and "Rise". There's also "Remember Where You Parked It?" and "On Thin Ice - Batman Returns", which are rearrangements of old stuff. But if you look at the cue sheet, listen closely to the score, or just watch the movie, a good 75% of the stuff is new. Still, I think Begins was the strongest of those scores from a purely enjoyable standpoint. TDK felt very polished, but the Joker music and a lot of the other "noise" tracks made it a weak listen sometimes.

It is a shame, though, especially in the case of TDKR's "Rise", that they just regurgitated TDK's finale in weaker form. They should have used the final few minutes of the Wayne Manor suite.


Mike2013-10-02 18:04:05
EDIT: There's also "For Old Times' Sake", "Handing Over the Reactor", and "Chasing the Convoy East". As for Nolan being to blame, I'm sure that's part of it. He was initially going to temp TDK for the most part, but Hans and James insisting on writing at least SOME new themes.


MacArthur2013-10-02 18:04:46
Was there new Batman stuff in the Wayne Manor Suite.

and I thought that On thin Ice was a nice new Arrangement. It was really refreshing to me.


Mike2013-10-02 18:06:39
Give the Wayne Manor suite a listen when you have 20 min to spare, MacArthur. Many new themes in there. And btw, I'm not referring to the album track "On Thin Ice", which is indeed new. I'm referring to the cue from the complete score when they light up the Bat-signal and Batman appears out of the shadows.


MacArthur2013-10-02 18:11:37
Ok.....Haha, Thanks I'll do that.


Mike2013-10-02 18:14:54
And just for the record....beginning at 6:58 in that suite is awesome. The arrangement of it in the movie was less exciting.

MacArthur reply Replies: 16 || 2013-09-24 17:08:35
One quick thing why didn't Harry Gregson-Williams do the score for the 3rd Narnia?


Mike2013-09-24 17:33:21
I believe it had to do with the director of the third one usually collaborating with David Arnold.


MacArthur2013-09-24 18:59:30
Odd.....Cause Gregson-Williams did it better


MacArthur2013-09-24 19:01:00
Mike you catholic or something


Alex2013-09-24 21:34:33
I disagree. I thought David Arnold's score was far, far superior. To each his own...


Edmund Meinerts2013-09-24 22:17:01
Yeah, Michael Apted directed Dawn Treader and he had previously done, among other things, The World is Not Enough with Arnold. I think Arnold did a fine job but Harry's scores were among the first I ever heard so I ultimately prefer them by a hair (especially Prince Caspian here).


Mike2013-09-24 22:52:47
I am Catholic, yes, but that relates to this how?


Mike2013-09-24 22:55:59
And yes, I agree, HGW did it better.


MacArthur2013-09-25 02:05:58
Sorry Mike I saw you say Praise Jesus. So I was Just wondering. lol.


Bioscope2013-09-25 05:21:31
I am not Catholic, and I praise Jesus everyday.


MacArthur2013-09-25 06:34:14
No that's good don't take offense to it please. I wasn't meaning it in a bad way. I'm Actually a Christian myself so I also praise Jesus every day. I was Actually named after the Narnia books.


Anonymous2013-09-25 09:13:26
Your name is Reepicheep?


Macejko2013-09-25 09:29:15
We already have one Edmund here :)


Mike2013-09-25 16:34:54
I'm not offended, just wondering what prompted the question.


Bioscope2013-09-25 16:53:09
Awesome, Mac:) And to you, too, Mike :)


MacArthur2013-09-25 17:13:15
Not Edmund or Reepicheep


Spence2013-09-25 18:44:48
This is first time I've ever seen someone bring up christianity or religion on the internet without someone getting offended or an atheist trying to convert anyone.

Good job HZ.com. :)

SAIF reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-11 13:55:58
THANK YOU

Ricky Agrawal reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-27 00:00:00
How could i get the songs of Narnia 2008

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
Is there some way to get the music from the beginning of the attack on the castle? It's some of my favorite music, but it's not on the CD.

D A R T H reply Replies: 0 || 2010-02-06 00:00:00
yes there is a bootleg...3cd riped from an internal promo dvd

not easy to find

HGW4 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-02-05 00:00:00
If there is, I can't find it :(

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2010-02-04 00:00:00
Is there any complete bootleg for this one?

Bruno Lasala reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-28 00:00:00
Excelente score. No esperaba menos de Harry.

Lucy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-20 00:00:00
I love the song The Call!!!
It makes me cry still!!!
I've watched literally 100 times!!!
I LOVE THAT FILM!!!!!!!!!!

weston random reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-17 00:00:00
the call is a beautiful song.it's easy to memorize and fun to sing.me and my friend know it by heart.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-19 00:00:00
Harry 's best score is Kingdom Of Heaven Complete. There are in this album all the themes ensentially remixed for this soundtrack.

Mario Soundtrack reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-19 00:00:00
That do an edicion special of 2 disks and put all the subjects of the movie!!!

tibo vertessen reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-12 00:00:00
cool

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-30 00:00:00
Add in the credits Richard Harvey musician: ethnic woodwinds ^^

mumble reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-07 00:00:00
i think it's very amazing movie


I loved it

steve reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-26 00:00:00
o.0 love it

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-21 00:00:00
Just saw the movie, and as usual there are once again a lot of good stuffs from the movie missing. Gotten ready for my ranting? ;D

*******!! SPOILERS ALERT !!********

* The opening credits and first half of the Prince Caspian Flees sequence

* Brawl at the Station sequence, arrival to Narnia (if I remember correctly, it's totally unreleased)

* Caspian's flight through the forest with Ninambrik (?) and the badger and saving the latter from some Telmarines (great percussion)

* The whole portion of the Pevensies' travel through Narnia after Lucy is saved from a wild bear

* Caspian rallies his troops in the cave (?) and tells them he's the rightful heir

* Lucy's dream sequence (a very beautiful, long piano/woodwind driven piece, I cannot understand why they left it out. Two thumbs up to HGW on this one!! :-)

* Pevensies' first encounter with Caspian and Peter and the latter's subsequent duel (as far as I remember this was a great piece)

* The Army salutes Caspian and the Pevensies' as they arrive at Aslan's How; this featured a GREAT reprise of the theme from the first movie and reduced me nearly to tears when I saw it was unreleased.

* The full first half of the Raid On The Castle sequence (when Peter, Caspian and others actually infiltrate the Castle and take down the Telmarine guards)

* Repicheep's muted trumpet theme (this really pissed me off that they didn't release it!!)

* A part of the second half of the Raid On The Castle sequence when Peter escapes on a Griffin from Miraz's castle

* Miraz Arrives - the Telmarine army arrives at Aslan's How before the Duel parlay scene. This is a faster, percussion-driven version of "Miraz Crowned"

* Parts of "Battle At Aslan's How" and the second half of "Door In The Air" seem to be missing, although I'm not sure.

*******!! SPOILERS END !!**********

There must be more, surely too, but these are the ones that were stuck in my head after seeing the movie. So let's keep our hopes up for a bootleg! ;-)

vina reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
I think i love ben barnes...
so much!

vina reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
Dobby..........................
Just look in here!

Pridelander reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-16 00:00:00
for Dobby :)

THE CALL
Written and Performed by Regina Spektor
Arranged and Produced by Harry Gregson-Williams and Regina Spektor


I admit... I like this song and "This Is Home". But, I HATE "A Dance 'Round the Memory Tree" as much as "Winter Light" from LWW :P

Dobby reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-16 00:00:00
Who wrote The Call?!?!?!? I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!

vina reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-10 00:00:00
This song is xcellent!
this song is come in ending,when caspian & susan kissing!
sooooooooooooooooooo sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet..........!
:)

vina reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-10 00:00:00
i love it so much!
but katie,were album!

katie reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-07 00:00:00
i love the song the call i tryed to buy it on itunes but it is album only but the song is great

katie reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-07 00:00:00
i love the song the call i tryed to buy it on itunes but it is album only

katie reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-07 00:00:00
i love the song the call i tryed to buy it on itunes but it is album only

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