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The reprise of "Batman on Fire" from Begins (1:59-2:30 in the Transfiguration suite) is good stuff! I wonder why Hans decided to reuse that particular idea.When are we going to see you in Chicago?Indeed, this score reminds me — in a good way — of The Rock.Track 11, Onwards, here is my most favorite cue from the CoH franchise. It has that old school "power anthem" thing going on about it with full force. I truly wish this style is brought back to life again soon.Are there any more tour dates planned?
Lord of the Rings - Shore<br>Battlestar Galactica - McCreary<br><br>Both are up there as my two favorite collection of works. GOT doesn't even compare to BSG. <br><br>For solo albums, my candidates are:<br><br>Titanic<br>The Lion King<br>Interstellar<br>Memoirs of a Geisha<br>Jurassic Park<br><br><br> <br><br>@superultramega<br>Honestly I feel like most of the issues with AUJ (and the other two hobbit films) were stemming from Peter Jackson editing the hell out of the music after the fact. It could be why they ended up dumping some themes in the following films.<br><br>Still, I don’t understand some of the criticism that the Hobbit trilogy scores received. DoS has some of the best action material imo, and the interpolations of Smaug’s theme(s) throughout the films are personally some of my favorite music from any LoTR project.<br><br>And this might be controversial, but I would put PoTC (the first three at least) on the level of Lord of the Rings in terms of the sheer amount of themes and development they receive. Maybe not quite as complex but they shouldn’t be overlooked.The Lion King and The Last Samurai are good choices, but I'm not as much of a fan as Zimmer's aesthetic or thematic work nearly as much as Howard Shore, or even Jablonskly at times. Game of Thrones I still can't comment on as I've never watched the show, or payed attention to Djawadi in general.<br><br>I would say Shore's heart wasn't in Desolation and Five Armies, but to say that about Unexpected Journey doesn't really feel right to me. Even themes like Gondor Restored and Nazgul's uses have some logic to them. <br><br>Gondor Restored was also used when the Ring is destroyed, meaning it also has a secondary meaning of victory against evil, (yes I know it affected Gondor too, but Gondor it isn't as direct). Which also applies in The Hobbit, as Bilbo saving Thorin was not only important for their relationship but also the future of Middle Earth as Thorin is vital to the battle against the orcs in Five Armies. <br><br>The Nazgul theme also makes sense as its first appearance is in Fellowship's opening, playing over Sauron's army of orcs, then Sauron himself. So it's linked both to Sauron himself and his servants, which includes Azog. Plus the version that plays in the film is the exact same variant (and lyrics) that plays in the Fellowship prologue. It serves almost as a precursor to the Nazgul. Plus I don't see why themes can't have several meanings anyway.  <br><br>Plus I love most of the new themes of AUJ (before they were abandoned in later films).Not really a fair comparison, Hybrid, since videogames as a medium are much younger than films, and their scores weren't using real orchestras right until... mid 90's, would be my guess (feel free to correct me, guys).<br><br>The all time best film score for me would be a battle between The Last Samurai and Lion King. If "movie" includes TV shows, then it's Game of Thrones without a doubt, but I'm not gonna have this argument again ;)<br><br>Btw. I wouldn't mention Hobbit in the same sentence with LotR, even music-wise. A couple of great cues cannot hide the fact that Shore's heart wasn't in it.IS * lion king
Best film score of all time in lion king. Without any doubt. ;-)Can I just add, the album presentation for MW2 is really lame? It's a big, dare I say "epic" score in the 1990s Media Ventures mold. I think it's really solid. There are lots of different ideas from the first mission to the last, and a lot of them are written in the power anthem style that Hans ans co. don't really use much these days. Even Opening Titles is a throwback for Hans himself. <br><br>Unfortunately, almost none of the music as heard through the game is here. Instead, we got a bunch of shortened theme suites. :P<br><br>But the Gulag mission, the oil rig stuff, The Enemy of My Enemy, and lots of other missions all have pretty engaging and powerful music. I wish the RCP guys would do scores like this one more.Lord of the Rings (and even The Hobbit), are the only film scores that I'm buying an entire book for, just to fully understand the themes and motifs.Every time I revisit this score the first cue I automatically go back to is “This Isn’t Right”. Something about RGW’s string writing always stuck with me, even if he isn’t the most memorable when it comes to themes.<br><br>As for this score itself, I feel like it might have become a classic had it not been paired with such a shitty film. It’s funny, the score sounds less like Hans’ style to me and more like James Horner’s. Granted he only wrote one cue apparently...But the best film score of all time is Lord of the Rings... :>
Guys... Video Game music didn't start in 2008... lol<br><br><br>Your little game is actually impossible... It's pretty much like trying find "what is the best film score of all time"...I agree with Araujo and Knorr wholeheartedly. Cannot say the same for Soule; I always found his music lackluster and unfocused, sans the main theme of course. I'd like to mention my first runner-up, which is Destiny: Rise of Iron alongside Destiny 2. I was never a huge fan of the first two scores (original game + the first expansion), but the moment a guy named Rotem Moav got on Salvatori's team, the music became incredible (even though I have no evidence that those two events are related). Nevertheless, since it's stylistically so different from old-school and symphonic LAIR, I'd probably name it my No.1 alongside it.<br><br>If you guys are looking for recommendations, be sure to check these out:<br>The Witcher 3 (Marcin Przybyłowicz, Mikolai Stroinski, and a band called Percival), LotRO: Riders of Rohan (Chance Thomas), Assassin's Creed IV (Brian Tyler), Alone In The Dark (Olivier Deriviére), Eagle Flight (Inon Zur), Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius (Noriyasu Agematsu), Ni No Kuni I/II (Joe Hisaishi), and of course Medal of Honor and Gears of War IV by Ramin ;)Gonna have to chip in for Skyrim as well, although I'm biased because I used to put hundreds of hours into that game :p<br><br>Oscar Araujo's music for the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow games is pretty good, as well as Geoff Knorr and his team's work on the last few Civ games.Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, Returns and Tropical Freeze.The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is by far on top for me. It feels like the ultimate culmination of Jeremy Soule's work on the the series along with symphony-level quality for the town and exploration music.
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Trevor RabinSteve JablonskyHarry Gregson-WilliamsPaul Linford
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Bad Boys II (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 133'28
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  1. Main Titles (4:19)
  2. Swamp - KKK (3:14)
  3. Swamp Shootout (1:44)
  4. Tapia (0:34)
  5. How Your Machine Works (1:08)
  6. Zoepound (0:47)
  7. Ambush - Miami Streets Chase (4:09)
  8. Intersection Shootout (2:47)
  9. Ferrari Causeway Chase (4:24)
  10. Drop Point (1:31)
  11. Whoosah (0:29)
  12. Tapia Pissed Off (1:08)
  13. Icepick (0:49)
  14. Haitian House Shootout (3:48)
  15. Camera (0:13)
  16. Watching Video (0:27)
  17. The Stuff (Part 1) (3:18)
  18. The Stuff (Part 2) (1:07)
  19. Find Out Who They Are (0:33)
  20. Wiretap Results (0:45)
  21. Ocean (1:38)
  22. A Cop Or A Model (0:21)
  23. Remember Me? (0:09)
  24. Dixie 7 (Part 1) (2:16)
  25. Dixie 7 (Part 2) (2:47)
  26. Dead Bodies (Part 1) (4:34)
  27. Dead Bodies (Part 2) (2:24)
  28. Heart To Heart (0:39)
  29. Breaking Into Mortuary (1:37)
  30. Mortuary (Part 1) (0:46)
  31. Mortuary (Part 2) (0:24)
  32. Mortuary (Part 3) (0:31)
  33. Mortuary Groove (4:41)
  34. Syd's Cover Is Blown (5:45)
  35. Tapia Has Syd (5:30)
  36. Tunnel (0:52)
  37. Prep For Tapia Sneak (3:33)
  38. Target House (5:37)
  39. Cuba Chase (3:21)
  40. Guantanamo (2:11)
  41. End Credits (Part 1) (1:01)
  42. End Credits (Part 2) (1:05)
  43. Main Titles (Alternate) (2:43)
  44. Swamp Shootout (Alternate) (1:35)
  45. Intersection Shootout (Alternate) (2:50)
  46. Ferrari Causeway Chase (Alternate) (4:37)
  47. Whoosah (Alternate) (0:29)
  48. The Stuff (Part 1) (Alternate) (3:17)
  49. The Stuff (Part 1) (Insert 1) (0:16)
  50. The Stuff (Part 1) (Insert 2) (0:14)
  51. The Stuff (Part 2) (Insert 1) (0:27)
  52. The Stuff (Part 2) (Insert 2) (0:37)
  53. Wiretap Results (Alternate I) (0:23)
  54. Wiretap Results (Alternate II) (0:24)
  55. Heart To Heart (Alternate) (0:37)
  56. Tapia Has Syd (Alternate I) (5:19)
  57. Tapia Has Syd (Alternate II) (5:26)
  58. Tapia Has Syd (Hallway Insert) (0:44)
  59. Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 1) (1:17)
  60. Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 2) (1:25)
  61. Prep For Tapia Sneak (Alternate I) (3:33)
  62. Prep For Tapia Sneak (Alternate II) (3:31)
  63. Cuba Chase (Alternate) (3:13)
  64. Guantanamo (Alternate) (2:10)
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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-30 04:26:41
Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone is a big fan of Trevor Rabin check out some of his music for the Disney World ride 'Mission: Space'. It's a pretty cool companion to Armageddon, although nothing has been officially released unfortunately.

Here's the area suite, not the best quality but it gives you a general idea....
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mpolonest1232017-11-30 04:28:27
Main theme at 20:00.


rockhound2017-11-30 10:07:02
sounds great. the theme at the beginning and the drums are pure rabin. i love it.


Bayhem2017-11-30 13:34:24
Pretty awesome, thanks for sharing.

By the way, since we're on the BB2 page.....I finally found the film version of the badass "We ride Together, We die Together" music. That piece (the one a lot of people were looking for) was missing from the Tapia Has Syd track. Don't know why....

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rockhound2017-11-30 17:05:26
i think the second version of Tapia has Syd sounds much better, because the theme goes through the whole track and is much more intense. sadly they didn't use this.
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Bayhem2017-12-01 14:23:10
"====EDITED===="

?????


Were the YT links considered spam? Because they weren't.


Damien, Moderator2017-12-01 20:34:57
No, they were not spam.
At least one of them claims "I do not own the rights for this music". So he does something illegal despite he knows it. I did'nt look in detail to others, but none since to be related to some legal source.

Bayhem reply Replies: 4 || 2017-11-13 22:51:27
You know, a lot of people complain about the fact that Mancina was dropped from the project, along with his cues from the original movie, but if you think about it you'll see that it makes perfect sense. It makes sense why Michael and Jerry wanted a different sound. Look at the two movies: the first Bad Boys is a contained, low-budget buddy-cop action comedy. While Bad Boys 2 is literally a full-blown $130 million blockbuster movie. It's bigger and more epic in every sense of the words.

And as much as I like the themes from the original, a similar sound would not, IMO, have been appropriate for the sequel. And clearly both Michael and Jerry felt the same way. The movie itself is much "heavier" and bombastic and it makes sense that they brought in Trevor and Steve. I mean, I like Mancina a lot but Rabin is, IMO, better with those big, epic movies. And, if you're able to focus only on the second movie, without comparing its sound to the first one, you'll realize that the score is actually pretty damn good. Big, bombastic, energetic with some pretty solid emotional cues.

Yes, the Mancina score for the first one is more melodic and it absolutely deserves its cult status, but I really feel that the BB2 score is very underrated, exactly because the BB1 score is so popular and beloved. Because of that very reason some score fans simply refused to accept the Rabin/Jablonsky score, even though, as I already stated, it's actually a very effective and competent score. It fits the movie perfectly. Again, this is my opinion and I know it might be unpopular. I just think that there's more than meets the eye when it comes to the BB2 score.

P.S. Harry Gregson-Williams worked on the BB2 score?? Hmm, interesting, considering that he didn't get along with Michael while they were working on Armageddon. I guess they were able to put their differences behind them. Or maybe Gregson-Williams's involvement was not that significant....


Leonard Dante2017-11-14 03:07:53
Maybe, but my interpretation goes to another way.

Zimmer did not want to do Armageddon, Bruckheimer calls Mancina and he's busy with Tarzan.

So, ok, let's find another guy from MV.

Glennie Smith worked with Brukeheimer the same year with "Man with Iron Mask" and in 1996 with "The Rock", but the music production of the two films was troubled. We will not repeat this again.

Who will be next? Rabin and HGW.

Jablonsky was the next when Rabin and HGW lost the interest in working with Bay or otherwise.


Per2017-11-14 08:34:19
I don't think Bruckheimer had anything to do with The Man In The Iron Mask...


Bayhem2017-11-14 08:37:39
Personally, I've never heard of Bruckheimer wanting Mancina for Armageddon. Maybe I missed it...As for Zimmer, he actually did some work on Armageddon.

The Man with the Iron Mask is not a Bruckheimer production though. Nick worked on most of Bruckheimer films (as a conductor or composer), starting with Crimson Tide and Bad Boys 1. As for Rabin and Harry Gregson-Williams, I doubt they suddenly lost interest because after Armageddon and Enemy of the State they were involved in one way or another in quite a few Bruckheimer or Bay projects. Hell, Rabin was hired by Bay Films to score I Am Number Four in 2011. And I'm sure that they will work again in the future. At the end of the day, it's not unusual for a director to go from one MV/RC composer to another. Tony Scott did it, Bay did it, Antoine Fuqua did it, Ridley Scott did it.


rockhound2017-11-14 08:55:41
zimmer was in talk, maybe already hired for Enemy of the State, because i remember that i saw his name in the first trailer. but for whatever reason, rabin took over and because rabin was at the same time very busy with Jack Frost, they asked harry to help out again. this time with a co-composer credit. im sure zimmer was never in talk for Armageddon and trevor was first choice for bruckheimer, because he already scored Con Air almost alone. but because it was such a big project and bay is a complicated director, trevor got alot of help.

same with Bad Boys 2. mancina and bay had creative differences and when it was clear, that he was out, trevor took over. but as always with bay, it was a difficult task and maybe also not enough time. thats why trevor got alot of help again. Bad Boys 2 has the typical bay sound, which his movies have until this day. i would love to have an official release, because it is a great actionscore.

Darkdave reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-13 05:54:13
We ride together we die together that track on here is on separate tracks the first part is tapia has sid but not till the end about half way and the part u need to join it with is called hallway hope this helps

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2008-03-09 00:00:00
Strange score in the way it was done...

This contains very good parts unfortunately never used in the movie (they prefered Dr Dre's "Additional Music" 0_0)... And a real complete with all what Rabin and the MV Team wrote (Jablonsky, Morris, Wesson, Duncan etc.) would be great...

And why not Mancina's rejected score too ? :-P


Grumpywinter2013-11-15 19:04:07
Where do you find this CD or download the songs I have been looking for it for years....


Damien, Moderator2013-11-15 22:22:34
As any score marked 'Bootleg' or 'Unofficial' release, you can't get this information here.

Henny reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 08:32:50
Not bad at all fleals and gallas. Thanks.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-20 00:00:00
we still need the RCP music from this!!!

badboys reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
it's very cool score , i like it ###

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
That Highway Chase cue is the best cue from the film... incredible that it is not one this boot. Wonder why...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
I think it's Bad Boys Heart to Heart or Syd's cover is blown. It's on it, I'm sure of it!

And no, the highway cue is not on this version. It's in an alternate form the End Credits on DVD.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-16 00:00:00
Is the Highway Chase cue on this? That cue is on the Trevor Morris official site but don't see it here...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-16 00:00:00
Does anyone know wich track is used in the scene where the quote "we ride together- we die together-bad boys for life" and people start gathering to help in the rescue of Marcus´s sister Syd?? I can´t find it anywhere and it does not seem that its on this soundtrack. I hear something similar but not exactly the track which is used in the movie.

Thank you..

Roman reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-12 00:00:00
Best Score EVER. I Love it :-)

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-01 00:00:00
hgw make not tapia house shootout!!!
syd`s cover is blown the last 40 seconds... is reprise in this track
bad boys 2 score ist only composed from trevor rabin! additional music by steve jablonsky & paul linford! look on trevor rabin fan site!

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
"HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D "

But that is the best cue from the whole film.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
Your Mancina story is right, LP...


But after Rabin came in, he had several problems too (who hasn't with Bay ? It's always a mess !!!) !

Check this bootleg, it contains at least 25 minutes not in the film ! Many things got replaced !

The "Tapia Has Syd" film version contains the beginning of the Rabin track listed here, with the end fully reworked by Jablonsky (sounding like Transformers :P) !!!

And as usual, Bay/Bruckheimer requested a lot of people to work on it ! So Jablonsky worked with his friends Trevor Morris & Clay Duncan... And HGW was asked to provide a cue, which he did with Mel Wesson & Toby Chu !

HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D

LP reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
If anyone had bothered to read the liner in the Bad Boys complete score, you would found out the actual story. Mark Mancina had a meeting with Bay and Bruckheimer. Mark wanted to continue the themes and expand on the music from the first movie. Michael wanted more percussive/driving music. Mark didn't want to go with that route, so Rabin was brought in, along with Steve Jablonsky and others. Though I've never heard of Harry's involvement in the score. Can anyone verify this?

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-22 00:00:00
As far as I know Rabin and Mancina also had a disagreement.

And yeah a complete score is needed. All the action stuff is missing especially at the end when they break in Tapia's house.

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-21 00:00:00
Was Mancina originaly attached to this? I had no idea. Does anyone know why his score was rejected? Because his score for the first one was great!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-21 00:00:00
Mancina was indeed hired and scored it...


But then was fired by Bay... :P

klugizzle reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
i really can't understand why they didn't release a score cd for this film.

Exxon reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-23 00:00:00
Way to go! I also got my hands on the original score for Bad Boys I by Mark Mancina! It is just great to finally have the entire original score.. I have been looking for it for ages.

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