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Haha!  Wear the mask. how fitting.yap. and all of the alternates :PI want that "Final Confrontation" cue so much!Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.
I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.
Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.
So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!
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Trevor RabinSteve JablonskyHarry Gregson-WilliamsPaul Linford
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Bad Boys II (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 133'28
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  1. Main Titles (4:19)
  2. Swamp - KKK (3:14)
  3. Swamp Shootout (1:44)
  4. Tapia (0:34)
  5. How Your Machine Works (1:08)
  6. Zoepound (0:47)
  7. Ambush - Miami Streets Chase (4:09)
  8. Intersection Shootout (2:47)
  9. Ferrari Causeway Chase (4:24)
  10. Drop Point (1:31)
  11. Whoosah (0:29)
  12. Tapia Pissed Off (1:08)
  13. Icepick (0:49)
  14. Haitian House Shootout (3:48)
  15. Camera (0:13)
  16. Watching Video (0:27)
  17. The Stuff (Part 1) (3:18)
  18. The Stuff (Part 2) (1:07)
  19. Find Out Who They Are (0:33)
  20. Wiretap Results (0:45)
  21. Ocean (1:38)
  22. A Cop Or A Model (0:21)
  23. Remember Me? (0:09)
  24. Dixie 7 (Part 1) (2:16)
  25. Dixie 7 (Part 2) (2:47)
  26. Dead Bodies (Part 1) (4:34)
  27. Dead Bodies (Part 2) (2:24)
  28. Heart To Heart (0:39)
  29. Breaking Into Mortuary (1:37)
  30. Mortuary (Part 1) (0:46)
  31. Mortuary (Part 2) (0:24)
  32. Mortuary (Part 3) (0:31)
  33. Mortuary Groove (4:41)
  34. Syd's Cover Is Blown (5:45)
  35. Tapia Has Syd (5:30)
  36. Tunnel (0:52)
  37. Prep For Tapia Sneak (3:33)
  38. Target House (5:37)
  39. Cuba Chase (3:21)
  40. Guantanamo (2:11)
  41. End Credits (Part 1) (1:01)
  42. End Credits (Part 2) (1:05)
  43. Main Titles (Alternate) (2:43)
  44. Swamp Shootout (Alternate) (1:35)
  45. Intersection Shootout (Alternate) (2:50)
  46. Ferrari Causeway Chase (Alternate) (4:37)
  47. Whoosah (Alternate) (0:29)
  48. The Stuff (Part 1) (Alternate) (3:17)
  49. The Stuff (Part 1) (Insert 1) (0:16)
  50. The Stuff (Part 1) (Insert 2) (0:14)
  51. The Stuff (Part 2) (Insert 1) (0:27)
  52. The Stuff (Part 2) (Insert 2) (0:37)
  53. Wiretap Results (Alternate I) (0:23)
  54. Wiretap Results (Alternate II) (0:24)
  55. Heart To Heart (Alternate) (0:37)
  56. Tapia Has Syd (Alternate I) (5:19)
  57. Tapia Has Syd (Alternate II) (5:26)
  58. Tapia Has Syd (Hallway Insert) (0:44)
  59. Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 1) (1:17)
  60. Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 2) (1:25)
  61. Prep For Tapia Sneak (Alternate I) (3:33)
  62. Prep For Tapia Sneak (Alternate II) (3:31)
  63. Cuba Chase (Alternate) (3:13)
  64. Guantanamo (Alternate) (2:10)
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MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2020-01-17 20:20:52
Confirmed by Lorne, the score album for Bad Boys 3 is coming... the next Frriday

Anti-casio reply Replies: 1 || 2020-01-16 14:04:19
Man, I am actually excited to hear Balfe's score for Bad Boys for Life - the clips he's posted on his Facebook page sound awesome and like they could truly honour Mancina. The Balfe components sound epic and the Mancina integrations dynamic. What's to fear, right?


I do fear that someone makes Alan Myerson to distill these 100s of performers, choral and orchestral, to make the whole score sound like an 80s casio synth again - please don't!! Balfe's had huge success with Dark Materials and Gemini Man with a pure orchestral sound - don't fuck it up, PLEASE.


Edmund Meinerts2020-01-17 12:19:26
Dark Materials was anything but "a pure orchestral sound" lol

Bayhem reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-13 22:51:27
You know, a lot of people complain about the fact that Mancina was dropped from the project, along with his cues from the original movie, but if you think about it you'll see that it makes perfect sense. It makes sense why Michael and Jerry wanted a different sound. Look at the two movies: the first Bad Boys is a contained, low-budget buddy-cop action comedy. While Bad Boys 2 is literally a full-blown $130 million blockbuster movie. It's bigger and more epic in every sense of the words.

And as much as I like the themes from the original, a similar sound would not, IMO, have been appropriate for the sequel. And clearly both Michael and Jerry felt the same way. The movie itself is much "heavier" and bombastic and it makes sense that they brought in Trevor and Steve. I mean, I like Mancina a lot but Rabin is, IMO, better with those big, epic movies. And, if you're able to focus only on the second movie, without comparing its sound to the first one, you'll realize that the score is actually pretty damn good. Big, bombastic, energetic with some pretty solid emotional cues.

Yes, the Mancina score for the first one is more melodic and it absolutely deserves its cult status, but I really feel that the BB2 score is very underrated, exactly because the BB1 score is so popular and beloved. Because of that very reason some score fans simply refused to accept the Rabin/Jablonsky score, even though, as I already stated, it's actually a very effective and competent score. It fits the movie perfectly. Again, this is my opinion and I know it might be unpopular. I just think that there's more than meets the eye when it comes to the BB2 score.

P.S. Harry Gregson-Williams worked on the BB2 score?? Hmm, interesting, considering that he didn't get along with Michael while they were working on Armageddon. I guess they were able to put their differences behind them. Or maybe Gregson-Williams's involvement was not that significant....


Leonard Dante2017-11-14 03:07:53
Maybe, but my interpretation goes to another way.

Zimmer did not want to do Armageddon, Bruckheimer calls Mancina and he's busy with Tarzan.

So, ok, let's find another guy from MV.

Glennie Smith worked with Brukeheimer the same year with "Man with Iron Mask" and in 1996 with "The Rock", but the music production of the two films was troubled. We will not repeat this again.

Who will be next? Rabin and HGW.

Jablonsky was the next when Rabin and HGW lost the interest in working with Bay or otherwise.


Per2017-11-14 08:34:19
I don't think Bruckheimer had anything to do with The Man In The Iron Mask...


Bayhem2017-11-14 08:37:39
Personally, I've never heard of Bruckheimer wanting Mancina for Armageddon. Maybe I missed it...As for Zimmer, he actually did some work on Armageddon.

The Man with the Iron Mask is not a Bruckheimer production though. Nick worked on most of Bruckheimer films (as a conductor or composer), starting with Crimson Tide and Bad Boys 1. As for Rabin and Harry Gregson-Williams, I doubt they suddenly lost interest because after Armageddon and Enemy of the State they were involved in one way or another in quite a few Bruckheimer or Bay projects. Hell, Rabin was hired by Bay Films to score I Am Number Four in 2011. And I'm sure that they will work again in the future. At the end of the day, it's not unusual for a director to go from one MV/RC composer to another. Tony Scott did it, Bay did it, Antoine Fuqua did it, Ridley Scott did it.


rockhound2017-11-14 08:55:41
zimmer was in talk, maybe already hired for Enemy of the State, because i remember that i saw his name in the first trailer. but for whatever reason, rabin took over and because rabin was at the same time very busy with Jack Frost, they asked harry to help out again. this time with a co-composer credit. im sure zimmer was never in talk for Armageddon and trevor was first choice for bruckheimer, because he already scored Con Air almost alone. but because it was such a big project and bay is a complicated director, trevor got alot of help.

same with Bad Boys 2. mancina and bay had creative differences and when it was clear, that he was out, trevor took over. but as always with bay, it was a difficult task and maybe also not enough time. thats why trevor got alot of help again. Bad Boys 2 has the typical bay sound, which his movies have until this day. i would love to have an official release, because it is a great actionscore.


Daniel2020-01-15 12:37:54
I have met with Tony Scott, on the filming location of Spy Game I asked him, who will compose the music for the film, he answered Hans Zimmer. :) And it landed at HGW. And Tony had worked with HGW only since then.
Mancina dropped out because, he wanted to do something new for the movie and didn't want to repeat himself, and MB and JB didn't like the idea, and they wanted the same music style, so MC left the project.


rockhound2020-01-15 12:44:38
But the style in Bad Boys 2 is totally different to the style in part 1. so the explanation doesn't make much sense.

GermanRCPFan reply Replies: 4 || 2019-06-13 14:47:48
Hybrid, do you know exactly who did what?
I have a few guesses:

1) Main Titles is by Trevor Rabin

2) Swamp Shootout is by Trevor Rabin & Harry Gregson-Williams

3) Zoepound is by Toby Chu

4) Ambush / Miami Streets Chase and Dead Bodies (Part 1) is by Trevor Rabin and HGW (simular to Trevor Rabin and HGW styles)

5) Intersection Shootout is by Harry Gregson Williams & Mel Wesson and Toby Chu (parts from "Target House" which is by HGW & Mel Wesson and Toby Chu)

6) Ferrari Causeway Chase is definetly by Steve Jablonsky & Trevor Morris and Clay Duncan (because the lattest score "Island" has very simular cue ("Mass Vehicular Carnage Pt. 3 - Train Wheels"), which is credited to Steve Jablonsky and Trevor Morris; the beginning of film version of "Humvee Chase" (from "Deja vu") has simular percussion (credited to HGW and Clay Duncan))

7) Haitian House Shootout is by Harry Gregson-Williams & Toby Chu (because it's HGW style cue)

8) Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 1) is by Steve Jablonsky

9) Dixie 7 (Part 1) is by Steve Jablonsky (has simular parts from "Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 1)")

10)Dead Bodies (Part 2) and Cuba Chase is by Trevor Rabin & Tim Heintz (close to Tim Heintz style at the second part of tracks)

11) Mortuary Groove is by Trevor Rabin & Steve Jablonsky and Snoop Dogg

12) Tapia Has Syd is by Trevor Rabin & Steve Jablonsky

13) Target House is by HGW & Mel Wesson and Toby Chu

14) End Credits (Part 1) is by Steve Jablonsky & Trevor Morris and Clay Duncan (rip-off from Ferrari Causeway Chase)

14) Cues like Tapia, Tapia Pissed Off, Ocean, End Credits (Part 2) is by Trevor Rabin & Heitor Pereira (because it have "Tapia's Theme" is by Heitor Pereira)

And there is few missing cues (between Swamp / KKK and Swamp Shootout is cue by HGW, between The Stuff (Part 1) and The Stuff (Part 2))


Inquisitor2019-06-13 18:08:24
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa time out. I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of. because his material never made it to the OST it was all Trevor Rabin only. maybe I read that in the Armageddon page?


GermanRCPFan2019-06-13 18:33:36
It's only suggestions based on about few dozen listened scores of those composers.
By the way known that HGW was part of it.


Mr Tweedy2019-06-14 00:12:34
I got confirmation HGW only wrote Haitian House Shootout (with the help of Mel Wesson). The same ideas were edited into the shorter cue Zoepound, so I'd say you can add this one to his credits.

Credits on IMDB mentions Paul Linford on the Main Titles.

Trevor Morris helped Jablonsky on the Ferrari Causeway Chase.
Jablonsky worked, for sure, on the Hallway and Helicopter Inserts.

100% sure Rabin worked on Tapia, Tapia Pissed Off, The Stuff, Wiretap Results, Ocean, Dead Bodies #2, Heart to Heart, Breaking Into Mortuary, Syd's Cover Is Blown, Tapia Has Syd (without Inserts), Prep for Tapia Sneak, Cuba Chase, Guantanamo (those tracks are on the Rabin only-bootleg).


Bayhem2019-06-14 08:41:02
I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of
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Well, Bay and HGW were not exactly best friends during Armageddon. Bay is very demanding and tough. HGW is also not a shy dude. He is an opinionated guy who stands his ground, as you can tell by his interviews. He reminds me of Mancina…..He's not afraid to speak up and have his opinion heard. And just like Mancina, his relationship with the Bay/Bruckheimer family seemed to be...….a bit complicated. Yet, he worked on Bad Boys 2 and Deja Vu. Now, it is possible - tho not likely - that Bay didn't even know that HGW did some work on BB2. Maybe it was just a favor for Steve and Trevor. Under the table, so to speak..... Personally, I don't believe that's the case. Whatever the truth, this is a great example of how different those composers are. Trevor and Steve work great with Bay/Bruckheimer and they always deliver great results. While composers like HGW and Mancina have problems with more demanding filmmakers. And apparently they don't even like action cinema. I don't necessary blame them, even though Mancina certainly didn't do himself any favors by trashing the genre and the people who back in the 90's gave him a shot to prove himself as a composer.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-30 04:26:41
Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone is a big fan of Trevor Rabin check out some of his music for the Disney World ride 'Mission: Space'. It's a pretty cool companion to Armageddon, although nothing has been officially released unfortunately.

Here's the area suite, not the best quality but it gives you a general idea....
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mpolonest1232017-11-30 04:28:27
Main theme at 20:00.


rockhound2017-11-30 10:07:02
sounds great. the theme at the beginning and the drums are pure rabin. i love it.


Bayhem2017-11-30 13:34:24
Pretty awesome, thanks for sharing.

By the way, since we're on the BB2 page.....I finally found the film version of the badass "We ride Together, We die Together" music. That piece (the one a lot of people were looking for) was missing from the Tapia Has Syd track. Don't know why....

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rockhound2017-11-30 17:05:26
i think the second version of Tapia has Syd sounds much better, because the theme goes through the whole track and is much more intense. sadly they didn't use this.
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Bayhem2017-12-01 14:23:10
"====EDITED===="

?????


Were the YT links considered spam? Because they weren't.


Damien, Moderator2017-12-01 20:34:57
No, they were not spam.
At least one of them claims "I do not own the rights for this music". So he does something illegal despite he knows it. I did'nt look in detail to others, but none since to be related to some legal source.

Darkdave reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-13 05:54:13
We ride together we die together that track on here is on separate tracks the first part is tapia has sid but not till the end about half way and the part u need to join it with is called hallway hope this helps

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2008-03-09 00:00:00
Strange score in the way it was done...

This contains very good parts unfortunately never used in the movie (they prefered Dr Dre's "Additional Music" 0_0)... And a real complete with all what Rabin and the MV Team wrote (Jablonsky, Morris, Wesson, Duncan etc.) would be great...

And why not Mancina's rejected score too ? :-P


Grumpywinter2013-11-15 19:04:07
Where do you find this CD or download the songs I have been looking for it for years....


Damien, Moderator2013-11-15 22:22:34
As any score marked 'Bootleg' or 'Unofficial' release, you can't get this information here.

Henny reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 08:32:50
Not bad at all fleals and gallas. Thanks.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-20 00:00:00
we still need the RCP music from this!!!

badboys reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
it's very cool score , i like it ###

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
That Highway Chase cue is the best cue from the film... incredible that it is not one this boot. Wonder why...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
I think it's Bad Boys Heart to Heart or Syd's cover is blown. It's on it, I'm sure of it!

And no, the highway cue is not on this version. It's in an alternate form the End Credits on DVD.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-16 00:00:00
Is the Highway Chase cue on this? That cue is on the Trevor Morris official site but don't see it here...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-16 00:00:00
Does anyone know wich track is used in the scene where the quote "we ride together- we die together-bad boys for life" and people start gathering to help in the rescue of Marcus´s sister Syd?? I can´t find it anywhere and it does not seem that its on this soundtrack. I hear something similar but not exactly the track which is used in the movie.

Thank you..

Roman reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-12 00:00:00
Best Score EVER. I Love it :-)

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-01 00:00:00
hgw make not tapia house shootout!!!
syd`s cover is blown the last 40 seconds... is reprise in this track
bad boys 2 score ist only composed from trevor rabin! additional music by steve jablonsky & paul linford! look on trevor rabin fan site!

LP reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
If anyone had bothered to read the liner in the Bad Boys complete score, you would found out the actual story. Mark Mancina had a meeting with Bay and Bruckheimer. Mark wanted to continue the themes and expand on the music from the first movie. Michael wanted more percussive/driving music. Mark didn't want to go with that route, so Rabin was brought in, along with Steve Jablonsky and others. Though I've never heard of Harry's involvement in the score. Can anyone verify this?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
Your Mancina story is right, LP...


But after Rabin came in, he had several problems too (who hasn't with Bay ? It's always a mess !!!) !

Check this bootleg, it contains at least 25 minutes not in the film ! Many things got replaced !

The "Tapia Has Syd" film version contains the beginning of the Rabin track listed here, with the end fully reworked by Jablonsky (sounding like Transformers :P) !!!

And as usual, Bay/Bruckheimer requested a lot of people to work on it ! So Jablonsky worked with his friends Trevor Morris & Clay Duncan... And HGW was asked to provide a cue, which he did with Mel Wesson & Toby Chu !

HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
"HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D "

But that is the best cue from the whole film.

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-22 00:00:00
As far as I know Rabin and Mancina also had a disagreement.

And yeah a complete score is needed. All the action stuff is missing especially at the end when they break in Tapia's house.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-21 00:00:00
Mancina was indeed hired and scored it...


But then was fired by Bay... :P

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-21 00:00:00
Was Mancina originaly attached to this? I had no idea. Does anyone know why his score was rejected? Because his score for the first one was great!

klugizzle reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
i really can't understand why they didn't release a score cd for this film.

Exxon reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-23 00:00:00
Way to go! I also got my hands on the original score for Bad Boys I by Mark Mancina! It is just great to finally have the entire original score.. I have been looking for it for ages.

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