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So I've finally decided to give this a listen today, and it was a lot of fun! The general quirkiness, source cues that actually benefit the score, and one of the best themes that I've heard from Zimmer in Moriarty certainly make this one a keeper. A lot of people barp on the OST, but it certainly made me interested to hear the music in a better form. I'll probably have to listen to it again before forming a definitive opinion, but as is, it managed to actually live up to the hype.Music By Harry Gregson-Williams<br>Additional Music By Stephanie Economou<br>Music Supervisor By Jabari AliTotally phoned in...I got nothing from this...Y'know, up until recently, I also thought Lorne was one of the least interesting RCP composer next to Junkie XL. Then I listened to Genius: Picasso (because of that one Balfe troll's recommendation interestingly enough), and now I see enormous potential in him. That is one of the most interesting television scores I've heard so far. The orchestrations and overall complexity is an enormous achievement for Lorne and shows that he can do much more than generic sample composition. <br><br>I'll probably skip this score because I have no interest in Mission Impossible, but I have a lot more interest in Balfe's career now thanks to his work on Genius: Picasso. If he continues on that level of composing, he may actually get some notoriety.Um.....guys, why are we acting like Kraemer doesn't have the skill to do a different sort of score? I'm fairly positive Jack Reacher doesn't sound anything like RN. Really, the reason he wasn't brought in was because, apparently, McQuarrie was pissed that he was overruled in how he wanted the film to sound, so be deliberately chose not to hire him this time. Purely a thing of spite. And a lot of the disappointment lies in those who normally don't pay attention to film music, which shows just how special that particular score was.<br><br>Really, I'm confident that had McQ had his way this time, and with Kraemer on board, he would've made something that did fit the new tone of the film. Composers should be able to challenge themselves to do something that is out of their comfort. Which is likely why a lot of Zimmer scores are the way they are, since he's allowed to differentiate every once and a while.<br><br>As is, with this logic, Cruise should not have hired McQ again if he wanted a different kind of movie for Fallout.
Hot take: Cruise saying that Fallout is the best score in the franchise is the equivalent of Danny Elfman saying there is only one Batman theme. Just marketing tricks to get one more excited.<br><br>Me personally, the general M:I sound isn't something I tend to get excited for, though I definitely acknowledge it's objectively well done. With M:I-2 though, while it's technically dated and incredibly cheesy, I admire it for those reasons, and is incredibly fun for me. Not to mention that the Spanish guitar is a lovely touch, and Injection is proof that there is more to Zimmer than some might think.<br><br>Balfe as a composer, to me, seems like tbe sort of guy who's told to get synth that fit the film well enough, and call it a day. Sure, there's one or two scores that go above and beyond to actually be something of note, but otherwise he's among the least interesting of the RCP bunch. Feel free to feel however you want, but that's my two cents.<br><br>It's frustrating that you have to deal with some of the touchier fans Edmund, but I'll admit that I do get a laugh everytime it happens. I love music, but I don't feel the need to get overly defensive about. I would just enjoy it and leave it like that.Meh on this one...Listening to it doesn't really do much for me. Maybe because I dont care for Cruise, or MIssion Impossible, or maybe because I already heard better from Inception and Fury Road....Even on last year's Dunkirk Hans wrote 90% of it. Unless you are born in the last few months there is plenty of music which Hans wrote and many can remember.Interstellar is barely 3 years old.SamualPF - there people go again misconstruing my comments about some of the posters here as negative comments against Balfe or his music. I didn't say anything about the score. But sure, keep pushing that agenda.<br><br>George, you make fair, well-articulated points and for what it's worth, I never included you among those who have, shall we say, aroused my suspicions. I'm looking forward to checking out the score for myself and rest assured I'll give it a fair shake when I do. I've liked plenty of Balfe scores in the past, I swear I'm not a hater! :p
None of Kraemerís music is reused! Thematic consistency says what?I actually always listen to a new score with an open mind. If I start expecting something and the score doesn't sound like it or doesn't have a certain thing in it I will always be dissappointed. If I don't expect anything and it turns out a score is a dissappointment, it's not such a big deal.<br><br>For example:<br>A lot of people wanted/expected a lot of individual hero themes in Infinity War. I didn't think it was necessary and I'm absolutely in love with the score.<br><br>And in the cause of reprising themes from 30+ different character in a score of 2 hours would have been chaos. If you're talking about LOTR and themes, that's different story. Those scores were almost all 3 or 4 hours.<br><br>But all and all. I don't think this is a better score than RN, but I don't think it's a bad score. It fits the movie, and I think that's what a score is all aboutEdmund ........<br><br>Yet again another negative comment about Balfe based on no fact . Sums you up really . The fact Tom Cruise who has produced the franchise has said he thinks is the best means something .we all get it that you donít like his music but simply contain yourself for always wanting to make pointless comments about him .<br><br>The reviews have been amazing for he filmmand Balfes scores . This may irritate you but at least watch the film and listen to the score then give a proper opinion.give it a goNo offense, Edmund, but if you havenít listened to it then donít make a judgement call on those of us that like it. Fallout in my opinion is the only really good RCP blockbuster score this year, and Iím going to voice my opinion on that. Pacific Rim, Tomb Raider, wrinkle in time, and Skyscraper have all been disappointments for me so when this surprisingly came out two weeks early, and I surprisingly liked it, then of course Iím going to ďflock overĒ and tell you all about how I feel. <br><br>Reviewers liking it is fun for those of us that like it. Tom cruise, who actually IS known to like film scores and has been to concerts for film scores (like Brian Tyler, even though Iím not crazy about him), liking it is also exciting for those of us that like this score and also for us who were excited to hear an updated RCP take on Mission Impossible. I root for all the RCP composers to succeed and create something memorable, and when others seem to like that too then Iím going to comment on it.<br><br>Whether it was Lorne Balfe, Henry Jackman, Ramin Djawadi, or Hans himself who scored this I would have been one of the first to tell you all if I liked it. And if I hated it I would also have voiced my disappointment... but simply put I was not disappointed and Iím glad that others are liking it, including reviewers and Tom Cruise.Once again, and not for the first time on this site, I can't help get the feeling that a Lorne Balfe score page is getting brigaded. Seems like every time he puts a new score out, a bunch of people flock to the page with glowingly positive comments (and brooking not even the slightest criticism), frequently from irregular users with very generic names who don't ever post in threads by other composers. And then using weak, tired arguments like "the reviewers love it" (I trust film reviewers on scores about as far as I can throw them) or "Tom Cruise said it's the best" (and since when is Cruise an authority on film scoring?) or "this is a new/modern/DARK M:I movie" (no excuse for a bad score). It feels, quite frankly, like shilling.<br><br>Disclaimer: haven't actually heard the score, I'm making no judgment on the music itself here. This is merely an observation of the posting patterns here.
Iím right there with you. I definitely think Balfe is very talented, although heís far from one of the best composers out there. Especially compared to Zimmer.<br><br>That being said, Iím not crazy about MI:2. The highlights are solid (Injection and Bare Island especially) but I find most of the score either schizophrenic or just not as developed as the scores that influence it. Sorta like how everybody loves ďThe RingĒ but I canít personally canít help but hear it as a lesser version of Hannibal.Right, which is why Iím ok with this. Look, I love the score for Rogue Nation as much as everyone else, but I still kept an open mind and was surprised that I enjoyed Fallout as much as I did, regardless of the influences.Thank you, Alex.  I appreciate it...Ohhh, nothing......Just here to remind folks what is the best M:I score. *cough*Balfe is not Zimmer*cough*<br><br>Seriously now.......Balfe seems to be turning into a film score version of Christopher Nolan. There are people who think he's the best thing since sliced bread, the next Jesus, and there are people who hate his guts. Personally, I don't mind him and I'm glad he gets to work on these big movies. But on the other hand, his score for the new MI movie is not even close to the greatness of Zimmer's MI2 score. At least in my opinion.I think most people listen to this score with a Rogue Nation kind of movie in their heads. But it's a very different kind of movie en the score works perfectly in the movie i.m.o.
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Klaus BadeltGeoff ZanelliRamin DjawadiJim Dooley
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The Time Machine (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 71'01
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  1. Main Titles (3:24)
  2. Wish Me Luck (1:20)
  3. Marry Me (1:10)
  4. Emma Dies #1 (1:31)
  5. In A Week (3:09)
  6. Bleeker Street (2:26)
  7. Emma Dies #2 (0:56)
  8. Moon Sign (1:06)
  9. I Don't Belong Here (3:56)
  10. In The Year 2030 (1:02)
  11. Time Travel - Asteroid (2:11)
  12. Where Am I (0:38)
  13. Are The Friendly (3:33)
  14. Goodnight (4:37)
  15. Stones & River - Village (4:52)
  16. Morlocks Attack (7:04)
  17. Where The Ghosts Are (1:43)
  18. Morlock World (6:27)
  19. The Master (5:42)
  20. Time Machine Returns - Fight (4:08)
  21. Alex Reconsiders (1:29)
  22. The Escape (3:24)
  23. Freedom - Godspeed (5:17)
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ThePhantasm reply Replies: 29 || 2018-02-18 05:00:01
So Johan johannson (R.I.P) was actually going to be the composer for Christopher Robin instead of the previously announced Klaus Badelt, where does that leave Klaus? Its honestly heartbreaking that the guy can't get a damn good project he is so talented and deserves a chance. He's proved himself with The Promise, pirates, time machine, solomon kane etc. How is it that henry jack and lorne balfe both of which I'm a fan of can get projects no problem but Klaus can't??

Maybe he needs a better agent.


Anonymous2018-02-18 09:27:44
Or. Maybe he's just choosey with his projects like Powell is.


gringo2018-02-18 10:13:40
@ThePhantasm: It breaks my heart aswell. He was the heart in Zimmers most beautiful era and would have wished to see him making his own great carreer. I've never understood the hype for Lorne etc. For me Badelt >> Lorne,Junkie,etc


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-18 10:14:13
I don't think so...remember those years when he did all sorts of random low-budget French comedies and thrillers? Didn't seem too choosy to me.

This is pure idle speculation, mind you, but I wonder if Klaus might not have burned some bridges here and there...his departure from the MV/RC/Hans inner circle seemed awfully abrupt.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-18 10:30:34
There's a lot more to the Klaus story I can't really disclose here...


Bob Belcher2018-02-18 10:50:00
because it would put a bad light to zimmer? are his hands involved in this that badelt isn't getting any big movies at all?


rockhound2018-02-18 11:10:27
klaus said in an interview last year, that he was looking to do some french movies, because he saw one on a flight to paris and was amazed by that movie and also because he loves paris and has a couple of friends there. he contacted people there to get in the french film business. he likes the way the people work there in the business. more freedom for him. in the interview he doesn't sound like he had to do these movies, because otherwiese he wouldn't get work. he really wanted to do these movies.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-18 11:22:30
On Hans ? No. On Klaus...


I'll say one thing : waste of talent... I loved Klaus' music and his amazing scores while he was in RCP, but he didn't need the help of anyone to destroy his own career... Too bad...


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-18 11:24:10
In fact, he's not even a composer anymore, he has his own company which deals with movie broadcasting worldwide... He does a score here & there but it never was his vocation... He just happened to be ridiculously talented (and Hans will confirm this to anyone even to this day).


Bob Belcher2018-02-18 11:35:08
Thanks Hybrid for those informations. I always had some fear Hans had his fingers in his departure from rcp and making his career-life as hard as it can get. It's too bad to see he doesn't appreciate the gift it was given to him. That talent was beyond, and the collaboration between Hans and Klaus was magical. I so would have wished it would never have stopped. And by reading your comments, Hans seems to think that aswell :(


...2018-02-18 11:36:33
and what about Trevor Rabin? He is amazing composer as well, sadly we donīt hear about him anymore


rockhound2018-02-18 11:43:31
trevor rabin is taking a break from composing filmmusic and was on tour the last 2 years with jon anderson and rick wakeman from YES. they created a new band called ARW. at the moment they are working on new songs.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-18 11:56:42
Yeah I agree, the problem with Trevor is that he never adapted to his environment, so to speak... He never changed his style, always the same kind of writing (big amazing theme + big action + guitars) and slowly lost the interest of everyone...

Key is being able to renew yourself (for better or for worse). But I miss his themes cause he's an amazing melody writer.

I know he wants to work, he wants to be hired to score, even if he doesn't "need" it really, and yes he has his solo/band career going on as well...

Funny story about Trevor he never really liked being listed on Hans-Zimmer.com as he never was a regular RCP occupant (even if I think having worked with Mancina and then done pretty much 5 scores at RCP, and then having in his team former RCP members, it did justify to me)... But since I'm probably the last one promoting his career on the internet, and having his brother-in-law Steve Kofsky being RCP's boss, I keep him there ! lol


rockhound2018-02-18 12:07:40
im actually very happy, that trevor didn't renew his style like hans for a couple of times. i just wish, he would compose more for orchestra only without guitars and cheap sounding samples. scores like Remember The Titans, The Great Raid and Flyboys prove that he can do it. maybe bruckheimer will hire him someday again. trevor composed amazing scores for him....with help by rcp on a couple of movies. ;)


mpolonest123 2018-02-18 12:30:28
Lol, maybe Trevor can return for Deep Blue Sea 2! Not that THAT would help his career much....



MrZimmerFan2018-02-18 12:43:25
Rabin himself has never considered to be a Zimmer-guy.


ThePhantasm2018-02-18 15:29:28
Damn so he ruined his own career? i hope he gets a second shot. Would to see what he can do with a superhero movie. I know he'd kill it if given the chance. Hopefully disney will let him score Christopher Robin. Here's hoping!


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-18 15:36:32
Well, there's always Catwoman...


ThePhantasm 2018-02-18 16:29:28
Hey man, that was a really good score okay lol but i mean like a good superhero movie like a marvel or DC


Dudu2018-02-18 22:20:35
@Hybrid,
Speaking of klaus, do you know how the other rcp members feel about him? Do they still keep in touch or is he persona non grata?
I know that geoff zanelli is completely pissed (check his website, for all the projects he names his colleagues like steve jablonsky or else, and then for the klaus projects he just puts ę†the composer†Ľ), and you told that hans avoids him as much as he can ( which I can see when the pirates topic is brought during interviews post 2006...no mention of klaus)
Hell even michael levine in his post about ę†why hans gets the job†Ľ name-dropped EVERYONE at rcp but klaus
So i was wondering how people act towards jim nowadays, especially ramin djawadi who is really popular now and started as his assistant!


Olive2018-02-19 02:43:12
From the way you talk it even seems like the man turned into a criminal. lol


rockhound2018-02-19 09:37:03
when i take a look on IMDB, klaus is still busy with filmmusic. just because he doesn't score hollywood blockbusters anymore and is not busy as lorne balfe, doesn't mean that he destroyed his career.


ok2018-02-19 12:09:01
he is doing Christopher Robin (2018, its disney
that is a big movie is it not


Balfe2018-02-19 13:32:17
Well, Klaus did compose a lot of the essential music from 1997 to 2005. As we know, Hans says - Hans does. Why do we trust this 'Hybrid Soldier', who calls them themselves that anyway? Tell us more mr rcp. How are you top of the line when you are French. Who is Hybrid - must be a reject from HZ line....



Olive2018-02-19 13:33:48
JohŠnnsson was hired for Christopher Robin little time before his death. Now will be another composer.


Olive2018-02-19 13:33:48
JohŠnnsson was hired for Christopher Robin little time before his death. Now will be another composer.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-19 13:35:40
Then explain to me why his career went downhill after he left Remote in 2006 ?


rockhound2018-02-19 15:04:31
hybrid, what do you mean with downhill? to compose music for smaller movies doesn't mean you don't earn money or your career is ruined. i really don't see the problem with his career.


ThePhantasm2018-02-19 21:54:51
Well john powell left RCP as well and he still has a great career, i think Klaus just has a shitty agent, it makes me so angry cause he's so talented and I want to hear more from him but he doesn't get great movies. Or even big summer movies, I don't know about his career going downhill though.


Scorefan2018-02-20 00:21:23
And who's the agent of Klaus?

Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2017-06-16 23:14:42
Ok, I love this piece of music, but I don't think it's part of the score album. I can't find it anywhere! It's the music during the "So I'm not just a wandering idiot?" scene. 50 minutes or so into the movie. It's such a nice, sweet melody. Beautiful stuff. Any help would be appreciated, folks.

Aggelos reply Replies: 1 || 2014-06-19 15:02:59
There seems to be some Final mixes on Badelt's newly updated webpage.

klausbadelt.com/


Per2014-06-19 16:17:01
It's the same material as on the old 'expanded' version listed on this very page, and nothing more than that it seems...

Yes, there's more tracks, but it seems to be just repeated tracks. But I'll be glad to stand corrected if any are indeed different.

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-24 00:00:00
Yes, that is correct, track '11 - Time Travel - Asteroid' listed here is actually Eloi, and yes, it's also different than the one on the soundtrak. It uses the same, or similar, "choir-words" (if that makes any sense) as in 'Godspeed'.

Also, track '14 - Goodnight' is actually 'Time Travel', and should be placed (to place it in a chronlogical order) after track 10. (And so track 11-12-13 would be 12-13-14, respectively)

Some other differences in this other than Eloi, is 'Where The Ghosts Are', which is a slightly different mix with less/no choir (compared to the one on the soundtrack) (the one with less choir is the mix in the film).
And the flute thingy, which can be heard from ca. 4:55 - 5:32 on track 14 on the soundtrack, is not on this version. But if that piece is just a different piece/cue added to that place on the soundtrack, or if it's a revised version of the cue (track '21 - Alex Reconsiders') I don't know.
And of course the Good Night cue (track '13 - Are They Friendly' on this version), is different.

But even though you have two different versions of the 'Good Night' on the soundtrack and this version, none of these are the one in the film, "of course"... But beyond the 'film version' of that cue, there's not much more missing (as heard in the film anyway), other than a short piece (after 'Good Night' and before 'Stone Language' in the film), which I believe to be the same as the last half minute or so of 'Stone Language', only without the percussion !

D reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-06 00:00:00
Is Time Travel - Asteroid meant to be Eloi (from the retail soundtrack)? The vocal sounds a bit different?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-11 00:00:00
@ The_Dimensionalist

It's a bootleg. You're not gonna find it in a store.

The_Dimensionalist reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-11 00:00:00
What is this? Where is its release date? How are there tracks with times, if this soundtrack does not exist? Can someone explain what is going on?

Slither reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-04 00:00:00
Quite liked this score but I think the promise is without a dought Badelts best score to date, he was really inspired during his stay in China that he really came out of the experience with a score which tops even Zimmers latest offerings. I cant wait to see a complete release of the promise score, because i have seen the film and there are a lot of great cues missing from the album, one in which features in the trailer.

hans-batman-zimmer reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-01 00:00:00
Zimmer's sound had a lot effect on POTC1.
So I think this is the best.

(From Japan)

Xxxxxxx Xxxx reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-30 00:00:00
Im not sure I would agree... POTC1 was alot catchier.... but that's my opinion.

hans-batman-zimmer reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-27 00:00:00
This is the Badelt's best.

(From Japan)

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