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@anonymous it appears in the track "vanishing point" but there's a better unreleased version of it when William was confessing to his wifewell hybrid, if you ever happen to know who did what, add it here please :D I would really be thankful for it!!If Steffen & Max did anything, it's arrange Lorne's cues...Personally, I don´t think that Aruj and Thum got a chance (or time) to write anything for this film, but I may be wrong... who knowsIn which tracks does William's sad theme appear?
Alright, these are my speculations on the credits for this version, mixed with what we already know about it from Soundclouds/websites/etc.<br><br>What we know:<br>Luke Richards - Today We Hunt, Running Out Of Tomorrows, Ospreys<br>Lorne Balfe - Battlefield<br><br>Gary Dworetsky - Final 50 seconds of Calling All Autobots<br><br>My personal speculation:<br>David Fleming - Drone Chase, Dive<br><br>Gary Dworetsky - History of Transformers<br><br>Max Aruj & Steffen Thum - Vivian Follows Merlin, Claim The Staff<br><br>I have no sources to back this up, these are just my guesses based on what I feel these composers' styles are.I watched the movie yesterday. Unfortunately,the songs are in Portuguese here, in Brazil (even "Spirit"! ). But Hans' work is still amazing, intense, he's stolen the show again!Saw the movie but never listened to the score, is it worth listening to?This complete album sound like Lit!! I like to hear about this album in one day soon.I just hope they bring back William's sad theme and other variations of Dolores's theme which were unreleased in season 2
It is, actually, completely in correct order. There's just 5 theme suites  here & there.Okay, I want this. Where, how much? lol<br><br>And I'm willing to bet that even those Jablonsky fans who didn't like the score wanna hear the complete album.@Ahmad i think end credits :PDo you know the chronological order for this one Hybrid? I had quick glance at the complete here and the OST album seems massively out of order16 hours of music?<br>Can we hear those 16 hours of music one day?
I saw the film today. It's amazing and wonderful. The feeling and emotions of the 1994 film keep untouchables. The score is simply breathtaking. The songs are incredible. The stampede scene is so intense just like the 1994. Hans has made an intense, epic and beautiful score.Additional arrangements instead of additional music? Even part of the score not on album?Because if the film is an american production, it has no choice but be recorded in the US... That's the rule...<br><br>When the film is a UK co-production, and/or partly shot in the UK etc... (like, for instance, every Nolan film, or King Arthur), it can be recorded in the UK... That's why it's way easier to get an expanded set of The Dark Knight or Interstellar than... the POTC saga...<br><br>I remember the AFM (American Federation of Musicians) wasn't pleased when Interstellar got recorded at Air Studios in London, claiming it had to be US Recorded... But Nolan's a brit, Syncopy is a British operation based in London...> You gotta realize one thing, this score is US recorded so every new 15 min of score you release, you gotta pay back reuse fees. So it's very complicated & costy and that's why they released "only" 15 min of extra score.<br><br>> If it was recorded in the UK, they could have released 2 hours of bonus tracks it wouldn't have cost anything more... :)<br><br>Wow, I didn't know that. So, why not record every movie in the UK/Europe then? Not sure how long it will take but I think this re-use fee will drop once they record every score outside the US.<br>However, how much money did the movie make in the Boxoffice and Home Entertainment? I'm sure that money can't be an issue here.<br><br>How cool would it be to officially buy the sessions in a collectors box (in general for all movies), signed by the composer and director and maybe cast members... I'm sure that could be sold for $200+. The studios are wasting an opportunity here... Sure, you can copy music but you can't copy the signatures.That's exactley what I thought.<br><br>There was one other thing I thought was great.<br><br>I went with my parents, who have heard Zimmer's music, from when I'm listening to it, but they said to me that you can hear, that it's him, without even knowing all of his music.<br>They said, the thematic content, the bombast of it, it is just pure Zimmer.<br><br>Hope Spongebob & Wonder Woman 1984 are with a large orchestral/choir ensemble, and with WW1984 some 80's synths!!
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Pirates Of The Caribbean: Soundtrack Treasures Collection
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Disc 1 : Pirates Of The Caribbean soundtrack
Disc 2 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest soundtrack
Disc 3 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End soundtrack
Disc 4 : Brand new remixes
Disc 5 : DVD of behind the scenes, making of the music and interviews with composer Hans Zimmer
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LCB reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-16 22:53:52
"Lord Culter Beckett" is by Zimmer and Balfe as "Just Good Businnes"?


LCB2014-08-19 13:46:01
And "Pirate Lord of Singapore"?


Mike2014-08-19 16:42:15
I always assumed those two were just Zimmer, but we don't know.

Jimmy reply Replies: 6 || 2013-07-26 22:43:00
Which of the following would Just Good Business fall under?

--Hans and Lorne working together
--Lorne based off Hans' other Beckett suite
--Just Lorne


Anonymous2013-07-27 02:38:35
I believe the second one (Lorne basing it off Hans' work). In one of the videos on disc 5, Lorne says something like, "I hear Hans in there going DA DA DA DA DA so I figure I need to go DA DA DA DA DA also" (in other words, he needs to imitate the overall style).


MacArthur2013-09-02 06:32:34
What is this of course Zimmer wrote it


Mike2013-09-02 14:36:27
No, it's on Lorne's website. With the exception of "Opening Titles" from MW2 and "Maestro" from The Holiday, everything on Lorne's site is by Lorne Balfe.


Mike2013-09-02 14:37:11
And who knows, perhaps Maestro is by Lorne Balfe, but I'd be surprised...


MacArthur2013-09-02 19:40:08
Wait are you talking the Pirates theme. (He's a Pirate) of course Zimmer wrote that cause when it was wrote Lorne wasn't even involved in RCP.


Mike2013-09-03 00:25:09
The original question was referring to the "Just Good Business" suite from At World's End.

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-07-20 05:27:00
Did Klaus actually write any of the themes in the first movie or did he just arrange Hans' music?


NM2013-07-20 16:44:58
Klaus has the entire soundtrack on his Soundcloud. Also, extract from an interview by Klaus about the 1st Pirates film:

"Composers always get help, because there is just so much music that has to be written. Hey, I compose the themes and I orchestrate them. But it’s not just about themes. I define the sound, or palette, for Pirates , which also relies heavily on synthesizers and percussion. We did specific sampling for percussion too. So, I define how the music sounds and thus how the movie sounds. And after that is done, then I run into all the different rooms."

"I have tons of orchestrators! And tons of helpers. I was basically running through eight rooms in the studio. I would play a theme on the piano or straight into the computer, give instructions as to how the cue should sound, but then, don’t take me too seriously because… what do I know! And then run to the next room, next cue. And then off to the next room and see what was written in there. So I was like the manager on this score."

Makes it sound like he wrote a lot of the material.

There kind of seems to be an unfair revision of history where some people think Zimmer did everything and Badelt did very little.


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-20 19:23:34
You don't know the story NM, and I got it confirmed not only by Hans but others who worked on it...

And, yes, nonetheless Klaus wrote some stuff, and I've already told what on I don't remember what POTC page... :D


NM2013-07-20 20:30:15
Well I only can go by what I've read in interviews, and on this site really. I don't claim to know much about it. There's so much information out there that all just contradicts each other, so I just enjoy the music.

I'd love if you filled me in a bit.

billy reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-26 21:36:03
The "Just Good Buisness" track is an unused film cue or a theme suite too?


Anonymus2013-05-26 23:04:33
It' s a theme suite (have a look on the expanded score tracklist).


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-27 13:04:51
I also heard somewhere that it's an unused cue for the first part of the Maelstrom battle.


Mike2013-05-28 09:13:12
If I'm not mistaken, it's an alternate/shortened version of Beckett's so called "Demo Theme" found on Lorne Balfe's site.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-30 09:19:29
"Lord Cutler Beckett" is the perfect mix of elegant and ruthless. Bravo Hans.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-15 03:36:02
Finally got my hands on this thing, for about 30 bucks. Considering that it's not available on Amazon for under $85, that isn't bad.

DamnRight reply Replies: 5 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@Matthew
"Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree? "

I second


Mike2012-11-30 19:44:39
Third. I'd pay as much as they want if they'd release the stuff.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 01:57:39
Haha, no. No, you wouldn't. Good joke. Just like everyone else, you would sit around waiting for one single person to buy them all and then pirate the hell out of everything.


Mike2012-12-01 03:43:59
Okay...? Did you see me ask if I could use that picture on the At World's End Expanded Score? I only get stuff I know I'm allowed to have.


Mike2012-12-01 03:47:45
Obviously, in this case I wouldn't be allowed to have it unless I bought it. There's no need for you to be rude.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 05:05:33
Oh. You're THAT guy. sorry

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Why ?

Because to Disney's eyes the word "music" means "costs" instead of "opportunity".


And I strongly disagree with POTC 1's OST... So many great cues missing or edited... ;)


Agnt007dman2011-08-02 06:28:19
Disney absolutely has more than enough money for costs to release a full score!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
Oh come on Hybrid, I'm sure you have POTC1 complete score ! Hehe

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
best~~~~~~~~~~~

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@ Matthew & DamnRight

I THIRD!!!!!

Chalsea reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-28 00:00:00
Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was disappointed about this.

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
Hybrid, another tracklisting question. Do you think you could detail who composed what on the 4th CD of this collection? Meaning, all of the extra suites from the films. I'd love to know who composed "Marry Me" and "The Heart of Davy Jones." Also, I have in mp3 format, the audio from each film's end titles suite. Could you tell me who composed what on each end title? Thanks a million! Appreciate all you do on here too!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
The Theme Suites are all HZ... ;)

emirhan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-20 00:00:00
asd

farouk reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-23 00:00:00
really i love Hans zemmer because he create a very very good soundtrack specially music of pirates of carrebben and batman

Anurag tiwary reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-03 00:00:00
I had never been though the feeling before listening this feeling. great music really great.

nanana}¿ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-07 00:00:00
no entiendo una verga tio esta mas de la chingada ha ha la puta cuca

Rick reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-23 00:00:00
For those who wonder should you get this set. Are the extra Disc 4 and 5 worth it.
Yes! Especially disc 4, all the suites are a great listen and is a treat to your ear. You can listen to all of them without skipping. (you may want to stop when the remix starts thou)
The beautiful theme of POTC 3 is finally given a full complete treatment of wondorous 9 mins. Dont like Pirate lord of Singapore in POTC original album? listen to the Pirate lord of Singapore suite and your opinion will change.
I am a true Hans Zimmer fan with over 50 discs in collection. I must admit thou I am not a fan of FULL and COMPLETE soundtrack because I listen to those tracks that are beautiful and skip those that are not.
I fully support suite as it developed those little sweet tunes that often I find ended too soon on usual movie score into one grand finale. Great work.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-01 00:00:00
hoist the colours high!! hans you doing a magnificent job here.....you can do a 4th movie and hoist the colours even higher. CMON!

Pedal reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-06 00:00:00
Yes, these are great. Great music. Actually, what's wrong with them, really? Well yeah I kind of wonder why they have to put all 3 soundtracks in and we have to buy it just to get the 4th disc. Well I mean the bonus and the one on Hans ZImmer. The thing is, they don't sell it in my country D: At least there's no sign of it anywhere. So I just listen to it on Youtube(:
And I thought the remixes are okay. I know some are a bit funny but then, you see them as UNIQUE(: yay. Pirate music is beautiful. Hans Zimmer is amazing.

Steven reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-05 00:00:00
Beckett theme rules as for the Lord of Singapore and Hoist the Colours actually they all are great

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
I beg to differ. Pirate Lord of Singapore, although not recorded the way we hear it in the film, still has some nice motifs that didn't make it to the CD. Marry Me too has the Hearts Stabbed theme and Cutler Beckett has that dude's theme which was never really given that much playtime on the soundtrack album. It's a superb CD with awesome concert suites.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
The suites are just arrangements of various unused material, demos or possibly alternates. They don't have any real unreleased music from any of the movies as such.

just007 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
great treasure collection, i love it, also seeing Hans Zimmer live playing his score...

Peter Bezemer reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-18 00:00:00
I have it right here :-D

The live performance on the premiere is cool!!!

ADAM reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-04 00:00:00
It Is really great, i love it, i wish that they would release more too, but what can we do, i love what i got

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-03 00:00:00
Ok, I feel the need to say this is an absolutely ridiculous release. I bought the Japanese special edition of the first two scores (which already has a bonus DVD) and the regular for the third. Now I'd most definately buy the additional and unreleased score CD (some nice stuff on there I must say) from this crazy box set if it were available separately. Am I gonna buy all three scores again just to get the 4th CD? No way. Another thing... who on Earth decided to put all of those horrible remixes on there again? I mean does someone actually enjoy film score being remixed into trance? That's just sick. I think Disney should either release the complete scores for the trilogy or stop messing around with people.

Matthew reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-30 00:00:00
Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree?

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