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No no, it's just a fake rumor. I was just responding to that MusoPT guy who made it sound like it's totally inconceivable that Balfe could ever be replaced.Wait!<br>So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?<br>I thought it had been completed?Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isn’t going to get replaced last minute!!!!!
Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.Alright, after re-listening to the score, I've made a few educated guesses of what the additional composers did, based on what we know about the score and their previous work. Note that none of this is confirmed by Hybrid, just my opinion.<br><br>Lorne Balfe: Seems to practically be a co-composer here. I hear a lot of him in this score. It seems he did Invasion (as he's known for contributing trailer music to films he works on) seemingly the suites "Brooding", "Deciphering the Signal", "Battle", and the one we know he cowrote, "Journey Suite". Based on this here's my guess as to what he contributed. <br><br>Soccent Attack - Sounds like his style, probably him arranging AllSpark and Decepticon material. <br><br>Keller's Briefing - Arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal"<br><br>Deciphering the Signal - Obviously another arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal" with Batman Begins-like action at the end.<br><br>Sam's Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) - Sounds like an arrangement of "Brooding" material. <br><br>(Possibly?) Are You LadiesMan217? - Some arrangement of "Brooding" and "Journey Suite" material, although hard to say whether the theme at 1:10 is Steve's or Lorne's. Could be Steve arranging Lorne material, as it sounds more Jablonsky-esque to me. <br><br>Autobots to the Rescue - Could be Steve imitating Batman Begins style, but sounds far too Lorne for me to not consider it a co-written track. <br><br>Sector 7 Chase - Part 1 sounds more Jablonsky than Lorne, but there's no question to me that part 2 has a lot of Balfe in there. <br><br>Where Is My Car? - Batman Begins-like again, probably Lorne solo, or Lorne and Steve<br><br>Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) - Arrangement of "Brooding"<br><br>Freeway Fight - Battle version of Decepticon theme from "Brooding"<br><br>Stumble Bumble (Part 1) & (Part 2 Alternate) - Arrangement of "Journey Suite", second part not used in the film sounds like Steve & Lorne Combo to me. Film version of part 2 sounds pure Steve to me. <br><br>You're A Soldier Now (Parts 1 & 3) - Lorne being heavily involved in the final battle is known, and Parts 1 and 3 have arrangements of Lorne material. I'm also fairly certain that Lorne wrote the Optimus vs Megatron theme from Part 3 and "Optimus vs Megatron".<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - Finale of theme introduced in "You're A Soldier Now (Part 3)" as well as the "Journey / AllSpark" theme which could be Lorne's or Steve's. <br><br>Trevor Morris: I can infer from his work on Pirates 2, The Island, and the one track we know he worked on. <br><br>Soldiers Arrive - Not sure why, but I've always assumed this military theme was Morris'.<br><br>Arctic 1897 - Dark theme that reminds me a lot of his work from Pirates 2. <br><br>Scorponok - Known fact that he co-wrote this. <br><br>Hoover Dam - Arrangement of military theme<br><br>Transforming -  Same theme from Arctic 1897<br><br>Sam on the Roof (Part 2) - Arrangement of theme from Scorponok, though could be Steve or Lorne arranging it.<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - A slight hint to the Military theme when they begin attacking Blackout, and Scorponok theme reprisal, once again could be Steve or Lorne arranging these themes. <br><br>Creeper Suite / A Call to Arms (Unused) - Original music for Optimus' Epilogue, contains arrangement of military theme. <br><br>Jay Flood: Can be inferred from his work on Transformers: The Game, his overall more orchestral writing, and his contributions to Nightmare on Elm Street, Sims 3, and Desperate Housewives. <br><br>Camaro on the Run - Definitely has a TF: The Game sound to it overall. As well as a bit of Thomas Newman-esque music. <br><br>Witwicky (Parts 1-3) - Definitely some of his style here along with Steve's overall Desperate Housewives-esque music. <br><br>Decepticons 2 Suite / Frenzy - The suspenseful strings make me think of Flood's Nightmare on Elm Street work, and the brass writing seems more characteristic of him than Jablonsky to me, though it was still probably a co-written suite. <br><br>Tense Action Suite - Once again reminds me of Flood's Nightmare suspenseful string writing, probably at least co-composed with Jablonsky. <br><br>Clay Duncan - I can guess somewhat based on his contributions to "The Island" but otherwise I don't know much about him so I'm not sure about any of the inferences I'm about the make. <br><br>Angry Camaro - This sort of drone music sounds like it could be him as his contributions were very electronic in The Island.<br><br>Bumblebee vs Barricade - Strange electronics and sounds plus more minimalist writing make me think Duncan. <br><br>Tow Truck Charge - Definitely has The Island's sound. Could be Trevor Morris too. <br><br>TJ Lindgreen: I know so little about his style except he works with Elfman and did additional music for TF: The Game so not much I can say for what he did. <br><br>Belly Shot(?) - The ethereal choir style sounds somewhat like TF: The Game's score and Elfman's choir. <br><br>Not to Hear That(?) - Maybe he composed this motif for Mikaela that also appeared in "Belly Shot". <br><br>Surreal Mikaela(?) - Once again I'm hoping the specific choir sound is part of his style. <br><br>Anything I didn't mention is a track I'm assuming is all Jablonsky. Please note that I'm not trying to take away from Steve's work on this score, and that for most of these track I'm assuming Steve had some involvement in as well, I'm just speculating for fun because I've always wanted to know who did what on this score.LP sadly, but it's also on Spotify.Technical reasons ! lol ;)<br><br>But she was there.Most welcome news. Should be a nice replacement for the Fantastic Beasts score that will have to have been pushed off. I imagine his work on Jungle Cruise will be great as well. 2021 is looking pretty exciting for score releases!
She definitely performed on the score, I don't know why she is uncredited...The poster shows Lorne Balfe as the composer.<br><br>But then it also did have Desplat!So no solo cello by Tina Guo? Is it digital then or is it no cello?CD or LP release?Why is Lorne Balfe not nominated for a Grammy for Ad Astra ?
To my understanding, James never worked for Hans or Remote Control. They’re simply friends and have collaborated on a few projects. Powell (and Gregson-Williams) used to work at Remote Control before moving on to his own studio/endeavors. <br><br>BUT, I am equally as excited for James to return to Disney Animation. Very excited for this and Jungle Cruise.I guess James Newton Howard doesn't count as a Remote Control composer anymore (and yet John Powell does? I don't get it), but anyway, he's scoring Disney Animation Studios' Raya and the Last Dragon. After his epic trilogy of Dinosaur, Atlantis, and Treasure Planet, I welcome his return to the studio!Some original cue titles with slates from a music mixing CD-R:<br>1M13 Transactions<br><br>2M16 Jake Gets Stoned<br>2M20A Alley<br>2M21 Rapists Castration<br><br>3M24 My Old Division<br>3M27 Go Fetch Dog<br>3M30 The Freeway<br>3M32 Alonzo Steals Money<br>3M33 Into The Jungle<br><br>4M41 Safety Is First / Busting Into Rogers<br><br>5M46 Helicopter<br>5M48 Sunset / Wet Streets<br>5M51 Jake Gets Beaten<br>5M52 Smiley Calls His Cousin<br><br>6M57 On The Roof<br>6M58 Jake Lands On Car<br><br>7M61 Alonzo Dies<br>7M63 Sun ShotMovie credits:<br><br>Music by Hans Zimmer & David Fleming<br><br>Music Supervisor: Joe Rudge<br><br>Score Produced by Hans Zimmer<br>Supervising Music Editor: Ryan Rubin<br>Music Editor: Nate Underkuffler<br>Music Production Services: Steven Kofsky<br>Additional Music by Ben Powell<br>Featured Guitar Soloist: Derek Trucks<br>Score Mixed by Seth Waldmann<br>Score Mix Assistant: Aldo Arechar<br>Technical Score Engineer: Chuck Choi<br>Technical Assistants: James Grimwade, Aldo Arechar, Steven Doar & Fabio Marks<br>Synth Programming: Hans Zimmer<br>Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry<br>Digital Instrument Preparation: Taurees Habib, Raul Vega, David Naroth & Paul Salerno<br>Studio Manager for Remote Control Productions: Shalini Singh<br>Assistant to Hans Zimmer: Cynthia Park<br>Score Mixed at Remote Control Productions, Santa Monica CA<br>Music Clearances: Jessica Dolingerthats true
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Transformers (Complete Score)
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Length: 157'50
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CD1
  1. Autobots (2:35)
  2. Soldiers Arrive (0:31)
  3. Bogey Approach (1:23)
  4. Family (0:34)
  5. Soccent Attack (2:10)
  6. Arctic 1897 (0:17)
  7. Angry Camaro (1:07)
  8. Keller's Briefing (2:02)
  9. Lost In The Desert (0:44)
  10. Sam At The Lake (2:00)
  11. Belly Shot (0:15)
  12. Signal Analysis (0:48)
  13. Air Force One (2:28)
  14. Main Frame Tampering (1:57)
  15. Camaro On The Run (2:51)
  16. Scorponok (5:33)
  17. Data Copy (0:36)
  18. Deciphering The Signal (1:13)
  19. Pink Bike Ride (Part 1) (0:31)
  20. Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) (0:53)
  21. Are You LadiesMan217? (1:26)
  22. Bumblebee VS Barricade (2:07)
  23. Arrival To Earth (5:28)
  24. Cybertron (2:47)
  25. Witwicky (Part 1) (1:58)
  26. Witwicky (Part 2) (0:30)
  27. Witwicky (Part 3) (2:07)
  28. Take Em & Bake Em (Part 1) (0:36)
  29. Take Em & Bake Em (Part 2) (1:04)
  30. Take Em & Bake Em (Part 3) (0:45)
  31. Autobots To The Rescue (1:22)
  32. Not To Hear That (0:30)
  33. Simmons Takes It Off (0:53)
  34. Sector 7 Chase (Part 1) (0:49)
  35. Sector 7 Chase (Part 2) (2:15)
  36. Bumblebee Captured (2:21)
  37. Hoover Dam (1:13)
  38. Optimus (3:17)
  39. Frenzy Falls (0:28)
  40. Where Is My Car? (0:34)
  41. The All Spark (3:35)
  42. Decepticons Mobilize (Part 1) (2:29)
  43. Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) (0:23)
  44. To Mission City (0:34)
  45. Freeway Fight (0:43)
  46. Downtown Battle (1:35)
  47. Stumble Bumble (Part 1) (1:12)
  48. Stumble Bumble (Part 2) (0:56)
  49. You're A Soldier Now (Part 1) (2:43)
  50. You're A Soldier Now (Part 2) (0:54)
  51. You're A Soldier Now (Part 3) (1:00)
  52. You're A Soldier Now (Part 4) (0:27)
CD2
  1. Transforming (0:45)
  2. Sam In The Building (0:44)
  3. Surreal Mikaela (0:38)
  4. Tow Truck Charge (1:14)
  5. Sam On The Roof (Part 1) (1:01)
  6. Sam On The Roof (Part 2) (1:15)
  7. Optimus VS Megatron (4:04)
  8. No Sacrifice, No Victory (2:30)
  9. The Cube Suite (3:52)
  10. Brooding Suite (4:34)
  11. Attack Suite (5:10)
  12. Cybertron Suite (2:46)
  13. Optimus Prime Suite (3:15)
  14. Heroix Suite (2:36)
  15. The All Spark Suite (6:04)
  16. Journey Suite (3:57)
  17. Sam's Theme Suite (1:59)
  18. Decepticons 6 Suite (3:39)
  19. Creeper Suite (2:26)
  20. Tensaction Suite (2:52)
  21. Stonker Suite (3:51)
  22. Decepticons Cello Suite (4:43)
  23. Decepticons 5 Suite (3:10)
  24. Decepticons 2 Suite (1:57)
  25. Invasion Suite (1:31)
  26. Stumble Bumble (Part 2) (Alternate) (0:47)
  27. No Sacrifice, No Victory (Alternate) (2:58)
  28. Trailer Music (1:19)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
"Sorry. In this world, you cannot "own" an illegal bootleg. "get your facts straight"

lol Funny. It's the same, even if it's not an official release. If you have it, you can listen to it whenever you want. It is present in your computer, on your hard drive, laser disc or audio CD or whatever you can share it ... so you possess that score that's all. You OWN it.
If you get caught you can be sure it won't change anything.

If you want to keep it for you just do it, don't try to tell me you don't "officially have it". That's rubbish and you're being pathetic.

"get your facts straight" dude.

Sam Whitwicky reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
Forgot to mention that I never said I've paid rights or whatever. I didn't even say I possessed that score...don't know where you read that.
All I'm saying, is that I don't understand why they can't share these recordings with anybody if it's so legal and so cool!
I don't understand what's the matter with that ... why is it so taboo...?!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
Who is "they" that your referring to?
The composers? Or the fans that get them? If your talking about fans, they probably don't want to share the scores with anyone in fear of those people leaking it everywhere, and the composer finding out and stops sending the fan any more copies of his score.

this happened with me and mancina back in the early days. He sent me a DAT of Bad Boys/Speed 2. Of course I had to find someoen who had a DAT machine to put it on cd for me. Found a film score collector who said he would put it on cd for me as long as he got to get a copy and of course I said sure (I was not into the trading circuit by that time)

Well the SOB decided to also trade it with others and then someone he sent it to sold illegal copies on ebay. So who do you think Mancina got mad at? Them, no. Me. And because of that, he stopped sending me stuff. This is why others keep them for themslves. I'll continue later...

Sam Whitwicky reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
First, I understand the reason why HZ.com list all these CD's here, it's a sort of database. Alright. No problem with that. But I don't think each and every extracts they give are coming from a record that has been given by the composer or one of his staff member for instance.

Then : When I say "them" I'm referring to the fans. I totally agree with you on the fact that a score that is given by the composer himself shouldn't be shared. It's a very private gift.

But once it's done, I'm not responsible of it. Given that these unofficial scores are often due to a leak, why are they listed here then ? Are they all coming from a composer/staff member or whoever is close to the composer ...?
Knowing it's a very private gift I think that if the original possessor is (sorry for the word) "dumb" enough to share his album (even if it was just with one person), whoever manage to find that recording is not responsible of such a mess. So, should fans refuse to obtain and listen to these albums ? Should they stop sharing them ?

Everybody should have the right to share unofficial recordings with any fan who wants to have it.
You yourself have that recording and it hasn't been given to you by the composer or a staff member ?... then why would you deserve that score more than any other fan ...?

When I say "you" I don't mean "you" in particular. I'm talking about every person who has such an album.

Westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
Guys, i just got this score and after listening to it, my opinion hasn't changed one bit. The score CD will be the center piece of any Transformers 2007 score fan, this and the original promo cd will only compliment the score CD. And for all the talk this bootleg is generating, it doesn't really bring anything new. Except for a few small cues that are very cool, most of the cool stuff in it was already either on the Promo.It's still worth the DL.But BUY THE SCORE CD.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
Well I, infact, did get the 52 track version of the score from one my my music editor contacts who worked on the score. I didn't want to send it out originally but I knew a few friends who would have loved to hear it. And since I'm to nice of a guy, I made a short version (the 30 minute one) and sent it to a few friends who I thought would have kept it to themselves. Of course we've seen how that turned out.

But with more people bugging me about it and calling me "greedy" which in fact if I was greedy I would have not sent it to anyone at all, I decided to just put out the 52 track version since it was only a week away from the official score release.

The reason why it was not a complete score I'll never know. He said he would send me what he had. Sadly, even his version was missing some tracks which I'm not sure why since he was a music editor on the film.

Either way, I don't go about putting it in peoples face what I have. I'm not a a-hole. Only reason I posted originally was to the guy calling me out as "greedy".

Which I bet it's someone I know and was upset I would not share the whole thing to them. And of course I had to repost to the guy calling me a liar and that the 52 track version was just a game rip.

But it's leaked out now and easily obtainable if you know where to look. So just enjoy it for now and once the official album is out, you'll have even more music . (From what I can tell, there's atleast 5 tracks on there not on the 52 track version. But thats not to say those tracks are not edits of other tracks together.

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V Ravi Krishna reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
I have the 52 track version but of course I will buy the official score CD. I also signed the online petition for its release. It's on Wikepedia that Warner Bros. might release a 2 CD version sometime later, actually.

Miral reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
I too have managed to get my grubby little paws on the 52 track version, but i will DEFINATELY be buying the release, infact i have it preordered...if only to show support for the superb work that has gone into it. Theres been alot of feedback that people are desperate for the score, i think its time to put your money where you mouth is and buy it!! Support Jablosnky and his efforts!!! *ill get off my soapbox now*

OKKU reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
44-Sam Takes Off - Optimus Hero (1:01)
Track is good.

joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
thanks. God this is killing me i have got to get my hands on this somehow

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
joshua,
Speeding Autos is not the film version. It's more of an alternate or unused and sounds nothing like the film version.

V Ravi Krishna reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
I got it. Sounds pretty good, actually, but some significant cues, like the arrival of the Autobots, are missing. Not like it matters much, seeing we'll be getting an official complete score in the future ;-)

joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
is there any way you could make speeding autos #(38) an extract. it's one of my favorite pieces of music from the film and i fear it's not gonna be on the official score because it's to short. I would really just like to hear it again. It would be greatly appreciated.

Sam Whitwicky - To the anonymous guy. reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
"they got a copy from someone who works in the industry'..."And they don't want to give it out because if they did, and whoever they got it from found out. They may never send them stuff again. Would you want to ruin that trusted relationship just to make a few "fans" happy?"

That's not "a few" fans...i'm talking about the whole soundtrack community. I'm talking about doing something fair !
Then, you are so naive, it's very moving. ^^
Their are so many people who own that unofficial expanded score that if many of them would share it everybody could have it too. Come on! Whoever was the first possessor of that score, the leak has already occurred ; that's obvious! How would so many people own that recording if not ?! They didn't buy it, nobody did!

Besides, it's not the first time such a thing happens. Happens all the time.

Wanna know the true reason behind the fact these "bootleg - not for sale" recordings cannot be shared ? Well it's because it allows the one who possess it to say : "I have something you can't have and I'm not willing to share it with you".

It's nothing but an ego issue :
That's called selfishness.

@ Antas reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
The fact that CD is a Bootleg instead of a Promo doesn't change anything. I'm sorry but I still don't understand why some people can find a way to put an hand on that kind of recordings when others can't.
If you have it and it's not official, why shouldn't anyone have the right to have it too ?
Reading the comments below, a lot of people seem to own this "Expanded" record. I don't think each and everyone of them may have obtained it from R.C members or at least through a legal way. Same thing for you guys.

So if I understand properly, people can own an unofficial score and they can say it (call it Bootleg, promo or whatever) but they can't say how they've found it ...? They can't share those unofficial (not for sale) records with others fans...?
Well, that's a weird conception of what is allowed (legal) and what's not. ^^

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
In any case the official release will be mastered (and will contain all the best tracks) so it would be a shame people who have these boots won't buy it.

I just hope people won't wait for a bootleg edition to release an official score next time (Contender, Desperate Housewives, Lion King expanded...)

hans-batman-zimmer reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
I love "Optimus Sword".
This expanded score is truly awesome!!

(From Japan)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
- Sam Whitwicky, how can you "own" a score you did not buy? You cannot "own" a bootleg. You did not pay money for it, atleast legtimently. Did you buy the rights from the studio? Did you call Warner Bros records and cut a deal to "own" a percintage of it? No! You cannot "own" a score if it's a bootleg.
Sorry. In this world, you cannot "own" an illegal bootleg. You can "have" a copy of it. You can own the official release when it comes out. But not a bootleg.

get your facts straight

joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
i agree 110% with WESTFALL. I could not have said it better myself. And i too will be buying the score and trying like hell to get the expanded bootleg

Westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
I already pre-ordered the score and even if i already had this bootled i would still buy it. First because i'm one of the many that signed the online petition asking for the score and i think i's worthy of buying. Secondly, the score CD will be, from what i can gather from the available samples, a best of of sorts. Themes will be either rearranged or reorquetrated to produce something almost entirely new, and the sound quality is prime.Third, there are tracks missing in this bootleg that are on the Score CD and vice versa. My point is, if you truly loved this score as i did, buy it. Then if you can get your hans on this bootleg, do it to. They compliment each other, rather than replace. I sure as hell will try.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
The reason some of these people sometimes gets the rare items such as this and does not share it is probably they got a copy from someone who works in the industry: composer, assistant, music editor, agency, etc. And they don't want to give it out because if they did, and whoever they got it from found out. They may never send them stuff again.

Would you want to ruin that trusted relationship just to make a few "fans" happy?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-05 00:00:00
Bootleg arrives on Earth !

Sam Witwicky reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-05 00:00:00
Yeah that's a good thing the score will be officially released... specially if you've got that "expanded promo score'" version of the score!!! You wouldn't say the same if you did have this "expanded promo score" recording since it looks like that recording offers more tracks than the official version does.

Did you buy it ? Of course you might have bought it since it wouldn't be legal to show extracts of a recording you don't legally possess.
Since that amazing "expanded promo" release seem to be commercially available I'd like to know where I can find it, just as you did.
Where can we have a chance to legally purchase that album too ? Maybe I should ask to some Remote Control executives...

If you didn't buy it then ... how could you guys show us some extracts since you wouldn't be allowed to own that record ...?
Why could some kind of guy have it when others can't ?!

Don't tell me "because that's the way it is".

mich128 reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-05 00:00:00
I second Jeff, it would be so great to be able to get these bootlegs, legally of course, at a reasonable price. Heck I might even pay an unreasonable price. ;)

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-05 00:00:00
Let's wait for the official release. It's a good point they finally decided to release it !

Jeff S. reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-05 00:00:00
I wish there was a way for us to be able to legally purchase these bootleg releases. I am a huge fan of musical scores and do not like the idea that the best music is not always available to the paying consumer. Is there a way to release these bootlegs for download at a reasonable price? I do not think I am alone in the group of people who strive to obtain my music legally and to compensate the creators as they deserve to be.

- Jeff

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-05 00:00:00
@sam : This release is not a promo. It's a bootleg -- something not official and not for public sale.

I won't say how I got it but I can explain why it is on the site : just because we put all existing CD we manage to find/get. Moreover, have in mind bootlegs/promos listed on these pages could help to the release of an official edition.

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