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I wonder if this track is the one causing consternation: Nils Frahm: 'Says' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwwjy4slI8<br><br>It sounds a bit like what Richter and Balfe could produce, but it is much more artistic than Balfe and much more synth-based than Richter. Frahm is credited for additional music.Not writing negative comments about Balfe for the purpose of writing negative comments - ie. trolling - but for the fact that Balfe does not seem to take film composition seriously. Goldsmith had a similar pace in the 1990s that equates to contemporary Balfe, but he managed to produce fantastic scores like Air Force One in a few weeks (yes, with some help from McNeeely). Balfe simply does not seem to have those skills so he resorts to cliches and drony nonsense. I await to be proven wrong. That Balfe track is not half-bad so I do maintain a general sense of expectation for this.Not any more lame than the Balfe cueLorne says it will be released and insists itís not a GITS situation.That's been standard in certain cases, though considerably less nowadays with how complicated these situations have become.<br><br>Having heard both tracks posted, both give me little on their own. I'm sure they work better in the context of the film, and we might see better tracks unveiled eventually.
He deserve better.Hans and Lorne like twins. Lorne has a very good personality. I still don't understand why some people are still writing bad comments to Lorne?Probably... lolSo is this how itís gonna be? Official release for Richter and leaks by Balfe :(Lorne posted a track from Ad Astra on his YouTube channelThank you. And i suppose "Need You Busting My Balls - End Credits" title would correspond to ASCAP "Need You Busting My Balls" + "RUSH END CREDITS", while "Just Married" to "RUSH MAIN ON END"?
Thatís literally the best part of the score though. But itís typical Richter (Miss Sloane, Black Mirror: Nosedive).Hunt Drunken Weirdness is barely a cue actually, it's just a patch up of sound designs by Mel...<br><br>Italian Party is a name I made up for a cue that's not used in the movie ! :)In ASCAP there is a cue "HUNT DRUNKEN WEIRDNESS" - is this by a chance an alias to "Italian Party", which is absent in ASCAP. Though there are different credits Zimmer/Wesson vs Zimmer/Klebe.https://open.spotify.com/ track/2UcUL4jytfVpW0jSXi3Ggi?si=ETyixI67R5u9AOU1YuClPw<br><br>very lame the cue from Max...Tom Holkenborg:<br><br>After Funeral<br>Anguilo Bugged<br>Bathroom<br>Big Italian Dead<br>Billy Connolly Lunch<br>End Credit Suite<br>Main Title Theme<br>Bring Jimmy Into The Tent<br>Connolly and Marianne In The Kitchen<br>Death of Deborah<br>Death of Halloran<br>Death of McIntyre<br>Death of Mickey<br>Death of Wheeler<br>The Disappearance of Whitey Bulger<br>Halloran Interview<br>Hospital Cafeteria<br>Iíll Ask You Again<br>Informing Connolly <br>Jimmy and Marianne/Loading Valhalla<br>Jimmy and Connollyís First Meeting<br>Make A Case Against Him<br>McGuireís Phone Call<br>Native of Southie<br>Picking Up Tommy King<br>Source Overlay<br>Steak Dinner<br>Thereís Nothing More Iím Going To Know<br>Utmost Respect<br>Weíre Doing This<br>2 Minutes
Tom Holkenborg:<br><br>Jimmy Arrives at Cabin<br>Main On Ends<br>Opening <br>Main Title Transition<br>Alley Transition<br>Happy Ending <br>Hospital Visit<br>Because Youíre Trash<br>Cops Take Michael <br>Execution/Foot Chase<br>I Used To Watch Your Fights Pt. 1-3<br>Iím Coming After Michael Pt. 1-2<br>Jimmy Calls On Michael<br>Michael Calls Police <br>Jimmy Dies<br>Jimmy Hesitates<br>Jimmy Says Goodbye<br>Sean Kills Kid<br>Sean Dies<br>Sean To Michael Transition<br>Street Source<br>Times Square Transition<br>Us Before You<br>Stay Off Main Streets<br>Whatís The Number, Jim?<br>Hit Man Price<br>Jimmyís Coming<br>Shootout in Woods<br>Train Station Pursuit Pt. 1/2<br><br>Tom Holkenborg, Christian Vorlander<br><br>Car Chase<br>Best Chance Youíve Got<br>New York Transition<br>He Killed His Own Cousin<br>The Projects Pt. 1/2Think Hans probably wrote a few notes in a piano mock-up and Lorne did the rest from that starting point... lolSaw the film today. If to talk music only, I heard Max mostly, but... nothing really different from his previous works. I heard the same motif as used in Hostiles and Morgan and probably elsewhere again and again... Nonetheless, enjoyed the movie itself immensely.From Deuscthe Grammophon.<br><br>BTW, i expect the Max Ritcher soundtrack@MrZimmerFan Ok, thank you for the update about the full soundtrack next month
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Steve JablonskyLorne BalfeClay DuncanTJ Lindgren
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Transformers (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 157'50
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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CD1
  1. Autobots (2:35)
  2. Soldiers Arrive (0:31)
  3. Bogey Approach (1:23)
  4. Family (0:34)
  5. Soccent Attack (2:10)
  6. Arctic 1897 (0:17)
  7. Angry Camaro (1:07)
  8. Keller's Briefing (2:02)
  9. Lost In The Desert (0:44)
  10. Sam At The Lake (2:00)
  11. Belly Shot (0:15)
  12. Signal Analysis (0:48)
  13. Air Force One (2:28)
  14. Main Frame Tampering (1:57)
  15. Camaro On The Run (2:51)
  16. Scorponok (5:33)
  17. Data Copy (0:36)
  18. Deciphering The Signal (1:13)
  19. Pink Bike Ride (Part 1) (0:31)
  20. Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) (0:53)
  21. Are You LadiesMan217? (1:26)
  22. Bumblebee VS Barricade (2:07)
  23. Arrival To Earth (5:28)
  24. Cybertron (2:47)
  25. Witwicky (Part 1) (1:58)
  26. Witwicky (Part 2) (0:30)
  27. Witwicky (Part 3) (2:07)
  28. Take Em & Bake Em (Part 1) (0:36)
  29. Take Em & Bake Em (Part 2) (1:04)
  30. Take Em & Bake Em (Part 3) (0:45)
  31. Autobots To The Rescue (1:22)
  32. Not To Hear That (0:30)
  33. Simmons Takes It Off (0:53)
  34. Sector 7 Chase (Part 1) (0:49)
  35. Sector 7 Chase (Part 2) (2:15)
  36. Bumblebee Captured (2:21)
  37. Hoover Dam (1:13)
  38. Optimus (3:17)
  39. Frenzy Falls (0:28)
  40. Where Is My Car? (0:34)
  41. The All Spark (3:35)
  42. Decepticons Mobilize (Part 1) (2:29)
  43. Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) (0:23)
  44. To Mission City (0:34)
  45. Freeway Fight (0:43)
  46. Downtown Battle (1:35)
  47. Stumble Bumble (Part 1) (1:12)
  48. Stumble Bumble (Part 2) (0:56)
  49. You're A Soldier Now (Part 1) (2:43)
  50. You're A Soldier Now (Part 2) (0:54)
  51. You're A Soldier Now (Part 3) (1:00)
  52. You're A Soldier Now (Part 4) (0:27)
CD2
  1. Transforming (0:45)
  2. Sam In The Building (0:44)
  3. Surreal Mikaela (0:38)
  4. Tow Truck Charge (1:14)
  5. Sam On The Roof (Part 1) (1:01)
  6. Sam On The Roof (Part 2) (1:15)
  7. Optimus VS Megatron (4:04)
  8. No Sacrifice, No Victory (2:30)
  9. The Cube Suite (3:52)
  10. Brooding Suite (4:34)
  11. Attack Suite (5:10)
  12. Cybertron Suite (2:46)
  13. Optimus Prime Suite (3:15)
  14. Heroix Suite (2:36)
  15. The All Spark Suite (6:04)
  16. Journey Suite (3:57)
  17. Sam's Theme Suite (1:59)
  18. Decepticons 6 Suite (3:39)
  19. Creeper Suite (2:26)
  20. Tensaction Suite (2:52)
  21. Stonker Suite (3:51)
  22. Decepticons Cello Suite (4:43)
  23. Decepticons 5 Suite (3:10)
  24. Decepticons 2 Suite (1:57)
  25. Invasion Suite (1:31)
  26. Stumble Bumble (Part 2) (Alternate) (0:47)
  27. No Sacrifice, No Victory (Alternate) (2:58)
  28. Trailer Music (1:19)
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westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-16 00:00:00
@SCore
It's the same as with the cues discussed earlier, they simply cut and removed a few layers from "Optimus" for that scene. Actually i find the version used in the film, both on that scene and during Optimus' speech about destroying the cube, much better. I do like "Optimus" as it is in the CD but without the flute-thing playing it sounds... better. And i believe that if you modify a track like they did with these, it becomes something else intirely and should be featured as such.

SCore reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-15 00:00:00
I know wich one u mean gaBBo but on that expanded score
the track where sam talks to bumblebee the first time (kind of an adapted version of ''Optimus'') is stil missing . or did i overlooked something?

gaBBo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-14 00:00:00
The cue where the soldiers are reported missing is featured on another expanded version of the score (I mean without sfx), along with a few other missing cues.
This one was quiet tricky to find !

SCore reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-14 00:00:00
So anyone has any idea where you can get the 2-CD version of the score (i believe with 72 tracks) including the promos and unused cues. And i saw it posted before but on all of the three scores that are released officially or unofficially is not the music that is played in the movie when Sam speaks to Bumblebee for the first time after that giant death match between bumblebee and the police car decepticon. That just sounds so great and thats the one they leave out? Why?

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-26 00:00:00
@Dakota

I'm with you, i wish there was an actual track. I hate it when they reuse cues like that. The same thing happens with cues like "Optimus Sword" wich are nice as is but you can't help but feel how great it would be if there was an expanded version that builds on that. I'm actually trying to do it. Unfortunatelly, with my limited resourses it's a bit tricky to do, not to mention it is an hybrid born from several scores. Many people complain when composers use the same theme in their score, i actually like to hear how the same theme sounds in its different versions, especially if i like the original. LOL.

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-26 00:00:00
Hmmm ok then. Damn I wish they could release that piece, I like it. Thanks for your knowledgeable answer, it's a good thing you're here

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-25 00:00:00
@Dakota

As for the Bonecrusher cue, much like the music used in the "road reunion" scene is a cut and accelerated tempo version of "Skorponok", the music used in that scene is a cut and slightly accelerated version of "Optimus Sword".

As for the one used during the Sec Def's broadcast, i'm sure that beat (it's not much more than that) is part of some of these tracks but i'll keep it in the same place as the TF theme version used at the very end of Optimus Opening monologue as we're shown the Osprey's, capping the end of "Autobots. There's been a cue around that was named "Qatar" but that's not it and it is actually from another movie named "Letters from Bagdhad" in wich S Jablonsky worked.

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-25 00:00:00
There's one other piece missing, I realized. It plays when Lennox's wife is watching the Secretary of Defense on TV saying they couldn't confirm any survivors of the Soccent Attack.

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-22 00:00:00
Alex, Thank You very much for responding so quickly. I actually have this 72-track version which is down beolw. I gave them both a listen, and that's not it. Those pieces are when: (A) Brawl is attacking, (B) Sam telling Bumblebee "I'm not gonna leave you", and (C) ending as Ironhide Transforms in slow-motion. I guess no one has it then? If you can find it for me, you are truely amazing. Once again, Thank You.

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-21 00:00:00
Does anyone have the track when Optimus and Bonecrusher Transform on the freeway? It's not called "freeway fight", that's the part when they actually fall off the ramp and fight. It starts exactly after the military guy is decoding the morse code from the Secretary of Defense. Here's the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pklbulbkHbA&feature=related it ends just about when Bonecrusher smashes into the first car. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me!!!!

Alex. reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-21 00:00:00
@ Dakota

The track is called

05. Devastator (0:52)

and has an alternate

27. Devastator (Alt.) (0:44)

on the 72 track complete promo score,down below.

prime2009 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-02 00:00:00
HAPPY NEW YEARS HAPPY 2010 everyone

prime2009 reply Replies: 0 || 2009-12-29 00:00:00
just awesome played it last night for the family and they absolutely loved the score plus the unused and alternate tracks i give this score 100 stars

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-13 00:00:00
@Sylvos

Nor did i see it that way, but in case someone starts thinking i'm an authority of some kind in this stuff. i thought i'd make it clear i'm not. I'm just a fan who really loved this score and was happy enough to get the full thing. Really happy. :D

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-13 00:00:00
@Sylvos

And with all that i forgot to say thank you. :)

michael reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-12 00:00:00
I've also been able to obtain the new version with all the awesome unused music but does anybody know the source of this, is it basically the recording sessions? and is the scorponok cue that is played when they all join up actually a faster version or a different recording because it is mixed in with unreleased music from the previous scene that is not on any complete/expanded score release.

anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-12 00:00:00
is the Decepticons Mobilize cue on the new expanded version?, it only looks like the deceptions cue is present

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-12 00:00:00
@michael

The music used in the meeting scene is "Scorponok", they just edited and increased the tempo to fit the scene. The music in the previous scene is an edited and remixed version of "The All Spark" with a few instruments removed.

@anthony
if you're refering to the music heard when the Decepticons report to Starscream and head for Hoover Dam, in the Full Score is track 13 from CD1, "Mainframe Tampering". The music used in the scene where Frenzy hacks the mainframe is track 21 from CD2, "Main Frame Tampering (Alt.)"

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-12 00:00:00
Good to have a Transformers score specialist here! ^_^

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-12 00:00:00
As i was watching the scene to answer michael i noticed something that i just hadn't really noticed before. From the scene where Bumblebee folds the All Spark (track "Bumblebee") to where Glenn says the F22 are scrambling (where "F-22's to the City" starts) all the BGM is edited from other tracks. The only exception is "Optimus Sword" wich is, itself, used in remixed form just seconds before the actual track plays.

The full sequence, between those 2 tracks (over 6 minutes of film):
SOCCENT Attack (BB and Lennox's team leave Hoover Dam, Megatron escapes)
The All Spark (Keller, Simmons and the others go to the archives an try to contact the airforce)
Scorponok (Autobots rendez-vous with BB)
Cargo Shootout+When Feds Attack+SOCCENT Attack (Frenzy attacks the archives, Glenn transmits Kellers orders)
Optimus Sword (Remixed) Autobots on the freeway with Decepticons on pursuit
Optimus Sword (Optimus and battle- this is slighly edited and has more chorus than the available version, though that might just be from the 5.1 mix)
Scorponok (Frenzy invades the archives and fights the humans, eventually killing... himself - "Oh, s**t!")

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-12 00:00:00
@Sylvos

Don't get me wrong. Everything i state here is based on many, many viewings of the film and many, many hours listening to the score. (I really have to get a life :P). I'm not a music specialist nor am i involved in the music world. My posts are not writen in stone, they're just my opinion. But based on 2 years of searching for anything related to this score, this last score has all the music i knew to exist+the promos and demos. When i say this is a FULL SCORE, it's based on only that. For all i know there might be a treasure trove of more music somewhere. Quite frankly, i even hope there's more... 'cause i just love this score so much. If i got this much from the RoTF score i woild be a very happy man... despite my sad lonely life. :)

michael reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-12 00:00:00
thanks westfall , yeh i also noticed the bit in the all spark track around 2:45

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-12 00:00:00
I was only complimenting your work here, westfall. No puns or sarcasm were intended at all! ;-)

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-10 00:00:00
Arrival to Earth 'Original Version' is totally awesome!! Jablonsky has finally win against Hans! :D

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-10 00:00:00
Unreleased material sounds like what 'Revenge of the Fallen' should have been..

Heyday reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-10 00:00:00
Hi, How can I listen to "22. We're Locked in (2:09)" ?
and where can i buy it?

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-09 00:00:00
Today i got this 72 tracks version... All I can say... Its fricking awesome. All those alternate version, especially Arrival To Earth... Just incredible

al bundy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-09 00:00:00
real expanded:

CD1:
01. Autobots (2:33)
02. Soldiers Arrive (0:31)
03. Bogey Approach (1:23)
04. My Ladies (0:34)
05. Soccent Attack (2:07)
06. Sam's Theme (2:00)
07. Crazy Grandfather (0:16)
08. Angry Camaro (1:12)
09. Deciphering the Signal (3:09)
10. Sam at the Lake (2:00)
11. Belly Shot (0:15)
12. Pentagon to Air Force One (0:49)
13. Main Frame Tampering (2:30)
14. Cargo Shootout (1:58)
15. Camaro On the Run (2:51)
16. Skorpinok (5:30)
17. Sim in the Compact (0:35)
18. Embaded Message (1:11)
19. Satan's Camaro (0:30)
20. Sam's Pink Bike Pursuit (0:52)
21. Are You Ladies Man 217 (1:25)
22. We're Locked in (2:09)
23. Arrival to Earth (5:27)
24. Cybertron (2:46)
25. Whitwicky (FULL) (4:27)
26. Sector 7 (0:33)
27. Take Em and Bake Em (1:01)
28. Criminals Are Hot (0:42)
29. Autobots to the Rescue (1:20)
30. Not to Hear That (0:26)
31. Simmons Takes It Off (0:50)
32. Speaker Phone (0:50)
33. When Feds Attack (2:05)
34. Bumblebee Captured (2:17)
35. Hoover Dam (1:09)
36. Optimus (3:16)
37. Frenzy Falls (0:25)
38. People Are Going to Die Here (0:30)
39. The All Spark (3:35)
40. Decepticons (3:52)
41. Nokia Bot (0:20)
42. Speeding Autos (0:32)
43. Bumblebee (3:58)
44. Frenzy (1:57)


CD2
01. Megatron Awakens (Unused) (3:41)
02. Optimus Sword (0:41)
03. F-22's to the City (1:33)
04. Stumble Bumble (1:11)
05. Devastator (0:52)
06. You're a Soldier Now (3:27)
07. Downtown Battle (1:19)
08. Mountain Dew (0:43)
09. Sam in the Building (0:42)
10. Surreal Mikaela (0:36)
11. Sam on the Roof (2:01)
12. Optimus vs Megatron (4:00)
13. No Sacrifice, No Victory (2:58)
14. A Call to Arms (Unused) (2:26)
15. Attack (Demo) (5:11)
16. Battle (Unused) (3:51)
17. Brooding (Demo) (4:34)
18. Tense Action (Demo) (2:53)
19. Autobots (Less Chorus) (2:38)
20. Deciphering the Signal (Alt) (2:00)
21. Main Frame Tampering (Alt.) (3:45)
22. Skorpinok (Album Version) (4:57)
23. Arrival to Earth (Original Version) (8:17)
24. Cybertron (No Cello) (2:45)
25. Decepticons (Alt.) (4:43)
26. The All Spark (Alt.) (3:55)
27. Devastator (Alt.) (0:44)
28. No Sacrifice, No Victory (No Choir) (2:29)

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-09 00:00:00
@ BOU
I totally agree. Even though i have it, an actual official CD would be worth the money. No matter how good a music file is, earing the actual CD is different, crisper, deeper sound. Bring it on. And the same for RoTF.

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