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Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.
The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.
You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.
Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!Oh, yes.<br><br>Maybe this month, right?The album is ready. Just waiting for legal to settle it... It'll happen.And about The Rhythm Section?, Mazzaro said the score is mastered...
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Kingdom Of Heaven (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 165'17
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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CD1
  1. France 1184 (1:21)
  2. Crusaders (1:12)
  3. Burning The Past (1:55)
  4. I Am Your Father (2:53)
  5. I Am Your Father (Alternate) (2:55)
  6. Priest Death (2:12)
  7. After Godfrey (0:51)
  8. After Godfrey (Alternate 1) (1:02)
  9. After Godfrey (Alternate 2) (0:51)
  10. Murder (0:26)
  11. Swordplay (1:46)
  12. Swordplay (Alternate 1) (1:44)
  13. Swordplay (Alternate 2) (1:38)
  14. Ambush (2:39)
  15. Eyes Wide Shut And... (0:35)
  16. Path To Heaven (0:57)
  17. To Messina (0:49)
  18. New World (1:33)
  19. Godfrey Dies (2:55)
  20. Godfrey Dies (Alternate 1) (1:32)
  21. Godfrey Dies (Alternate 2) (0:44)
  22. Ship Wrecked (2:47)
  23. Saracen Fight (0:37)
  24. Saracen Fight (Alternate) (0:36)
  25. To Jerusalem (1:37)
  26. Golgotha (1:28)
  27. Golgotha (Alternate) (1:21)
  28. My Lord (3:39)
  29. My Lord (Alternate) (0:57)
  30. Religion (0:41)
  31. Raid (2:05)
  32. Good Knight (0:57)
  33. Two Faces (1:06)
  34. Two Faces (Alternate) (1:19)
CD2
  1. The King (3:02)
  2. The Pilgrim Road (2:16)
  3. Ibelin (2:09)
  4. Sibylla Visits (1:55)
  5. Washing (1:57)
  6. Caravan Road (2:37)
  7. Kerak Castle (2:35)
  8. The Battle Of Kerak (3:47)
  9. The Battle Of Kerak (Alternate 1) (3:46)
  10. The Battle Of Kerak (Alternate 2) (3:00)
  11. The Battle Of Kerak (Alternate 3) (2:54)
  12. The Battle Of Kerak (Alternate 4) (2:38)
  13. Terms (4:27)
  14. Guy Power (1:24)
  15. An Understanding (2:25)
  16. Marry Sibylla (1:43)
  17. Better Man (1:42)
  18. The King Is Dead (3:53)
  19. The King Is Dead (Alternate) (3:08)
  20. Templar Fight (1:11)
  21. Leprosy (3:21)
  22. Rape And Pilage (1:58)
  23. Kill The Messenger (2:00)
  24. To War (2:45)
  25. Desert Thirst (3:15)
  26. Corale (1:38)
  27. They're Here (1:34)
  28. They're Here (Alternate 1) (0:50)
  29. They're Here (Alternate 2) (2:07)
CD3
  1. Rise A Knight (2:46)
  2. Almaric's Peerage (1:24)
  3. Fireballs (1:45)
  4. Fireballs (Alternate) (1:45)
  5. 2nd Day Of War (3:31)
  6. 2nd Day Of War (Alternate) (3:34)
  7. Haircut (1:07)
  8. Flag Up (2:34)
  9. Night Burial (1:38)
  10. Night Burial (Alternate) (1:39)
  11. Door Into Jerusalem (2:19)
  12. Wall Breached (3:01)
  13. Wall Breached (Alternate) (2:47)
  14. Ask For Terms (1:23)
  15. Everything (2:33)
  16. Muslim Jerusalem (2:23)
  17. Muslim Jerusalem (Alternate) (2:29)
  18. Smelly Wood (0:47)
  19. Ibelin Song (2:11) *
*Vocal & lyrics by Natacha Atlas
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Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
I'm surprised that nobody added 4 or 5 "original suites" made by fans with edited older material to add 15 to 25 minutes in order to claim "I have even more music !! look at my suites !!"

We'll eventually have 17 different versions from the same score, like Pearl Harbor, Face/Off or Black Hawk Down... Please, stick with the "normal" recording sessions. If you wanna make your own version, that's your right, but please do not try to share/trade it on the net !

Rubascubas reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
I have the 108 track Complete Recording Sessions but it definitely is not 3 cds long... the total amount of music is like 254 minutes... Although some of the music comes from the Official Release... Anyway, fanmade or not, I liked it...

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
254 minutes !!!! It means that there are almost 100 minutes more !!!! I think, even if there are some useless tracks like "unused trailer music", it's a better version !!!!!

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
And why not ??? Some people can be satisfied by other versions more complete !!!! Nobody obliges anyone with getting this score !!!! Not interested in ? Ok, but let the others benefit from it !!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
Axel, you got us wrong.
We're not saying "more music" isn't great. But people claiming they have "even more music", but the only new featured stuffs are only "trailer music" (which you can find on other albums) or "fanmade suites" (which doesn't contain any new material but just edited versions of previous released stuff) is getting pretty annoying !

The "original" recording sessions is nearly 3 hours long, and already has much more music than what you can hear in the movie. What's the point in adding cues twice or adding cues not even from the original score in order to add... an extra hour??

More music is great, but only when the "more" includes music COMPOSED for the MOVIE.

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
Let's add cues from Chicken Run, Narnia and Armageddon and tell you have a 5CD version with bonus tracks ! :-P

fs reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-11 00:00:00
@Pet & Hybrid Soldier: You are right !

i also hate those fanmade "ultimate more deluxe editions" ... and those unused trailer music tracks -> lol

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-11 00:00:00
Yeah this is like "I want more and more tracks" just to show that you have more and more tracks...

Even if it has nothing to do with the score...

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-11 00:00:00
Lot of peoples care about it !!!! Like me, for example !!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-11 00:00:00
You are completely right Per !

That's enough with these bad "expanded completes"...

Who cares about "unused trailer music" ? LOL

And tracks like Balansiya or Epitaph... °_°

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-10 00:00:00
I hope this time my message will not disappear..........Because last time when I spoke about this recording sessions 3 CD, it has been deleted !!!

So, I just want to say that it exist a more complete recording sessions of Kingdom Of Heaven, with 108 tracks !!!!!

Tracklist:

[Disc 1]
1. Balansiya
2. France 1186
3. Crusaders
4. Burning The Past
5. I Am Your Father
6. I Am Your Father (Alternate)
7. Priest Death
8. After Godfrey
9. After Godfrey (Alternate I)
10. After Godfrey (Alternate II)
11. Murder
12. Swordplay
13. Swordplay (Alternate I)
14. Swordplay (Alternate II)
15. Ambush
16. Eyes Wide Shut And ...
17. Path To Heaven
18. Clerics
19. To Messina
20. New World
21. Godfrey Dies
22. Godfrey Dies (Alternate I)
23. Godfrey Dies (Alternate II)
24. Ship Wrecked
25. Saracen Flight
26. Saracen Flight (Alternate)
27. To Jerusalem
28. Golgotha
29. Golgotha (Alternate)
30. My Lord
31. My Lord (Alternate)
32. Religion
33. Raid
34. Good Knight
35. Two Faces
36. Two Faces (Alternate)

[Disc 2]
1. The King
2. The King (Alternate)
3. The Pilgrim Road
4. The Pilgrim Road (Alternate)
5. Ibelin6. Sibylla Visits
7. Washing
8. Caravan Road
9. Kerak Castle
10. Battle Of Kerak
11. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate I)
12. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate II)
13. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate III)
14. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate IV)
15. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate V)
16. Terms
17. Terms (Alternate)
18. Epitaph
19. Guy Power
20. An Understanding
21. An Understanding (Alternate)
22. Marry Sibylla
23. Better Man
24. Better Man (Alternate)
25. Chant
26. Coronation
27. Death
28. King's Fall
29. Templar Fight
30. Leprosy
31. Leprosy (Alternate)
32. Balin's Ambush
33. Solesme
34. Islam
35. Attack
36. Rape And Pilage

[Disc 3]
1. Kill The Messenger
2. To War
3. Desert Thirst
4. Corale
5. They're Here
6. They're Here (Alternate I)
7. They're Here (Alternate II)
8. Rise A Knight
9. Almaric's Peerage
10. Fireballs
11. Fireballs (Alternate)
12. Second Day Of War
13. Second Day Of War (Alternate)
14. Haircut
15. Invasion
16. Flag Up
17. Night Burial
18. Night Burial (Alternate)
19. Door Into Jerusalem
20. Wall Breached
21. Wall Breached (Alternate)
22. Ask For Terms
23. Everything
24. Saladin
25. Saladin (Alternative I)
26. Saladin (Alternative II)
27. Muslim
28. Smell Of Wood
29. Materna
30. Sibylla And Balin
31. Light Of Life
32. End Title
33. Movement III - Hope (Trailer Music) - Jonathan Elias
34. Daredevils (Trailer Music) - Julian Beeston
35. Unused Trailer Music I - Sorman & Nystrom
36. Unused Trailer Music II - Sorman & Nystrom

pierre reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-10 00:00:00
wonder how much of the new stuff is the 'additional music' whatever that means

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-10 00:00:00
Actually, you don't have to be very clever to understand that, just by comparing tracktitles, that this 'more complete recording sessions...' is probably just something like this:

- The extra alternates is most likely just the soundtrack versions, which again are most likely edits from the original recordings (which is already included on this 3 cd version)

- It seems like the unoriginal !! music used in the film are added too, which of course have nothing to do with Harry Gregson-Williams and his score !

- The 'trailer music' tracks, which also, again, have nothing really to do with Harry Gregson-Williams, and his score !

No track lengths are mentioned on this socalled longer version, so i'm just assuming this from the track names mentioned. But if you sum up all of this i mentioned, and take it away, i think you end up not far from the 'original' version listed above !

(And it's something similar for the Pearl Harbor 2CD version too !)

musicfan reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-07 00:00:00
I might be wrong but I think there is the same theme in the second "Extract" below and in Narnia...am I wright?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
It's also missing the film version of the Templar Ambush

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
@ron : this track is the last one of the official release...

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
Okay, this is a total noob question, I know. But it seems like those CDs are not official releases - and you can't buy them anywhere. I can't even find the normal Catwoman soundtrack. Arethese fanmade projects? Or japanese versions? A little help would be appreciated.

Alex

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
I just want to give some informations about this one...

I took my DVD, as usual, to verify the order of this one...

It was really difficult, because the score was cut a lot of time in the film, with temp-tracks of other composers (Goldsmith, Revell etc...) so cues in the film are really different (which not mean that there's new work in the film ;-))...

But as I noticed, this is in correct order, just put the alternates tracks at the end...

And I also noticel some differences in the cues used in the film :

-The Swordplay used in the film is the Alternate 2
-The Battle of Kerak used in the film is the Alternate 1
-And the 2nd Day of War used in the film is the Alternate

All with littles differences due to the editing...
;-)

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
No noises on my version mate. Otherwise fantastic edition, thanks god for these recording sessions albums. Illegal, yet the only way to appreciate this beautiful music in it's entirety.

John reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-31 00:00:00
I have this score, its great. Now I just need to the the complete Catwoman.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-31 00:00:00
Nice 3CD set.
My only complaint about it is that it has some noises here and there. It would have been perfect without those problems ! :'-(

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-31 00:00:00
Holy carp! 3 CDs!!!

matteo from italy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-31 00:00:00
One word,Wonderful!!

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