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Artemisia Suite = History of Artemisia <br>Greek Action Suite = Marathon <br>Xerxes Rebirth Suite = From Man to God King<br>Greek Sacrifice Suite = ???<br>Artemisia’s Childhood Suite = Artemisia’s Childhood<br>Greek Attack Suite = Greeks on Attack<br>Queen Gorgo Suite = Queen Gorgo<br>Xerxes Thoughts Suite = Xerxes Thoughts<br>Greek History Suite = History of the Greeks<br>Greek Victory Suite = Greeks Are Winning<br><br>Hope this helps! :-)A shame if Balfe's ramshackled another stellar score......can he not leave these artists alone? I think he does not consider himself as a creative, but other people actually do creative work. If you are only there to plug holes, what's the point of you guys defending his 'talent'?Hybrid can you tell us what album cues are the suites ?!well, from what Lorne wrote on Twitter, it should be releasedCool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.
The Hans cues used are :<br><br>1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)<br>1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)<br>2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES<br>2M3 BLACK WOLF<br>2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)<br>3M1 THIN ICE<br>3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH<br>3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK<br>3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK<br>6M4 THE BEAR<br>6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK<br>7M3 IN THE STABLE<br>7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN<br>8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)<br>8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)<br><br>All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues pleaseI imagined it ... hopefully this time Max Ritcher does not give him a lollipop and refuses to launch his musicYes Unbreakable.
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<br>Exactly like White Fang. Have Poledouris write a score, then HZ do another, then pick what you want from both.
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<br>Ghost In The Shell was kinda different...In the credits of the movie, Max Ritcher appears as the Main Composer, meanwhile, Lorne appears as Additional Music
I find that it would be best to accredit both and launch the two soundtracks and all happy.Hybrid implies that Max Ritcher's score was rejected, and that Lorne made a new one and in the end, the best of both has been used.  I am right?ANd now apparently another guy is scoring it as well lmaoTechnically he's a little under 50% used so there's no obligation. But he wrote a whole score for it.but if Lorne has written 50% of the score you should have a credit like in Ghost in the shell
Lorne is got additional music credit, not for co-composer, and still appear the image of the label for the soundtrack.But Lorne is still not credited as an official composer.  It is possible that Lorne shares credit with Max.In other news Lorne just finished compiling the OST for Gemini Man...When Richter was the composer there was an album planned at Deutsche Grammophon...<br><br>When Lorne jumped in to write a new score for the movie, apparently that release was cancelled... Now that film has like 50/50 MR LB, and nothing's planned at all.<br><br>So we'll see, but apart from posting some cues of his score online, like Lorne did before, I doubt there'll be an official release... And if Richter's release gets back on track, it would definitely have his score only.Hybrid, by "not happening" you mean Richter's part of the score or Balfe's? Or the whole thing is as messed up as Ghost in the Shell, regarding the score?
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Kingdom Of Heaven (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 165'17
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CD1
  1. France 1184 (1:21)
  2. Crusaders (1:12)
  3. Burning The Past (1:55)
  4. I Am Your Father (2:53)
  5. I Am Your Father (Alternate) (2:55)
  6. Priest Death (2:12)
  7. After Godfrey (0:51)
  8. After Godfrey (Alternate 1) (1:02)
  9. After Godfrey (Alternate 2) (0:51)
  10. Murder (0:26)
  11. Swordplay (1:46)
  12. Swordplay (Alternate 1) (1:44)
  13. Swordplay (Alternate 2) (1:38)
  14. Ambush (2:39)
  15. Eyes Wide Shut And... (0:35)
  16. Path To Heaven (0:57)
  17. To Messina (0:49)
  18. New World (1:33)
  19. Godfrey Dies (2:55)
  20. Godfrey Dies (Alternate 1) (1:32)
  21. Godfrey Dies (Alternate 2) (0:44)
  22. Ship Wrecked (2:47)
  23. Saracen Fight (0:37)
  24. Saracen Fight (Alternate) (0:36)
  25. To Jerusalem (1:37)
  26. Golgotha (1:28)
  27. Golgotha (Alternate) (1:21)
  28. My Lord (3:39)
  29. My Lord (Alternate) (0:57)
  30. Religion (0:41)
  31. Raid (2:05)
  32. Good Knight (0:57)
  33. Two Faces (1:06)
  34. Two Faces (Alternate) (1:19)
CD2
  1. The King (3:02)
  2. The Pilgrim Road (2:16)
  3. Ibelin (2:09)
  4. Sibylla Visits (1:55)
  5. Washing (1:57)
  6. Caravan Road (2:37)
  7. Kerak Castle (2:35)
  8. The Battle Of Kerak (3:47)
  9. The Battle Of Kerak (Alternate 1) (3:46)
  10. The Battle Of Kerak (Alternate 2) (3:00)
  11. The Battle Of Kerak (Alternate 3) (2:54)
  12. The Battle Of Kerak (Alternate 4) (2:38)
  13. Terms (4:27)
  14. Guy Power (1:24)
  15. An Understanding (2:25)
  16. Marry Sibylla (1:43)
  17. Better Man (1:42)
  18. The King Is Dead (3:53)
  19. The King Is Dead (Alternate) (3:08)
  20. Templar Fight (1:11)
  21. Leprosy (3:21)
  22. Rape And Pilage (1:58)
  23. Kill The Messenger (2:00)
  24. To War (2:45)
  25. Desert Thirst (3:15)
  26. Corale (1:38)
  27. They're Here (1:34)
  28. They're Here (Alternate 1) (0:50)
  29. They're Here (Alternate 2) (2:07)
CD3
  1. Rise A Knight (2:46)
  2. Almaric's Peerage (1:24)
  3. Fireballs (1:45)
  4. Fireballs (Alternate) (1:45)
  5. 2nd Day Of War (3:31)
  6. 2nd Day Of War (Alternate) (3:34)
  7. Haircut (1:07)
  8. Flag Up (2:34)
  9. Night Burial (1:38)
  10. Night Burial (Alternate) (1:39)
  11. Door Into Jerusalem (2:19)
  12. Wall Breached (3:01)
  13. Wall Breached (Alternate) (2:47)
  14. Ask For Terms (1:23)
  15. Everything (2:33)
  16. Muslim Jerusalem (2:23)
  17. Muslim Jerusalem (Alternate) (2:29)
  18. Smelly Wood (0:47)
  19. Ibelin Song (2:11) *
*Vocal & lyrics by Natacha Atlas
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Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
I'm surprised that nobody added 4 or 5 "original suites" made by fans with edited older material to add 15 to 25 minutes in order to claim "I have even more music !! look at my suites !!"

We'll eventually have 17 different versions from the same score, like Pearl Harbor, Face/Off or Black Hawk Down... Please, stick with the "normal" recording sessions. If you wanna make your own version, that's your right, but please do not try to share/trade it on the net !

Rubascubas reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
I have the 108 track Complete Recording Sessions but it definitely is not 3 cds long... the total amount of music is like 254 minutes... Although some of the music comes from the Official Release... Anyway, fanmade or not, I liked it...

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
254 minutes !!!! It means that there are almost 100 minutes more !!!! I think, even if there are some useless tracks like "unused trailer music", it's a better version !!!!!

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
And why not ??? Some people can be satisfied by other versions more complete !!!! Nobody obliges anyone with getting this score !!!! Not interested in ? Ok, but let the others benefit from it !!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
Axel, you got us wrong.
We're not saying "more music" isn't great. But people claiming they have "even more music", but the only new featured stuffs are only "trailer music" (which you can find on other albums) or "fanmade suites" (which doesn't contain any new material but just edited versions of previous released stuff) is getting pretty annoying !

The "original" recording sessions is nearly 3 hours long, and already has much more music than what you can hear in the movie. What's the point in adding cues twice or adding cues not even from the original score in order to add... an extra hour??

More music is great, but only when the "more" includes music COMPOSED for the MOVIE.

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-12 00:00:00
Let's add cues from Chicken Run, Narnia and Armageddon and tell you have a 5CD version with bonus tracks ! :-P

fs reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-11 00:00:00
@Pet & Hybrid Soldier: You are right !

i also hate those fanmade "ultimate more deluxe editions" ... and those unused trailer music tracks -> lol

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-11 00:00:00
Yeah this is like "I want more and more tracks" just to show that you have more and more tracks...

Even if it has nothing to do with the score...

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-11 00:00:00
Lot of peoples care about it !!!! Like me, for example !!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-11 00:00:00
You are completely right Per !

That's enough with these bad "expanded completes"...

Who cares about "unused trailer music" ? LOL

And tracks like Balansiya or Epitaph... °_°

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-10 00:00:00
I hope this time my message will not disappear..........Because last time when I spoke about this recording sessions 3 CD, it has been deleted !!!

So, I just want to say that it exist a more complete recording sessions of Kingdom Of Heaven, with 108 tracks !!!!!

Tracklist:

[Disc 1]
1. Balansiya
2. France 1186
3. Crusaders
4. Burning The Past
5. I Am Your Father
6. I Am Your Father (Alternate)
7. Priest Death
8. After Godfrey
9. After Godfrey (Alternate I)
10. After Godfrey (Alternate II)
11. Murder
12. Swordplay
13. Swordplay (Alternate I)
14. Swordplay (Alternate II)
15. Ambush
16. Eyes Wide Shut And ...
17. Path To Heaven
18. Clerics
19. To Messina
20. New World
21. Godfrey Dies
22. Godfrey Dies (Alternate I)
23. Godfrey Dies (Alternate II)
24. Ship Wrecked
25. Saracen Flight
26. Saracen Flight (Alternate)
27. To Jerusalem
28. Golgotha
29. Golgotha (Alternate)
30. My Lord
31. My Lord (Alternate)
32. Religion
33. Raid
34. Good Knight
35. Two Faces
36. Two Faces (Alternate)

[Disc 2]
1. The King
2. The King (Alternate)
3. The Pilgrim Road
4. The Pilgrim Road (Alternate)
5. Ibelin6. Sibylla Visits
7. Washing
8. Caravan Road
9. Kerak Castle
10. Battle Of Kerak
11. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate I)
12. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate II)
13. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate III)
14. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate IV)
15. Battle Of Kerak (Alternate V)
16. Terms
17. Terms (Alternate)
18. Epitaph
19. Guy Power
20. An Understanding
21. An Understanding (Alternate)
22. Marry Sibylla
23. Better Man
24. Better Man (Alternate)
25. Chant
26. Coronation
27. Death
28. King's Fall
29. Templar Fight
30. Leprosy
31. Leprosy (Alternate)
32. Balin's Ambush
33. Solesme
34. Islam
35. Attack
36. Rape And Pilage

[Disc 3]
1. Kill The Messenger
2. To War
3. Desert Thirst
4. Corale
5. They're Here
6. They're Here (Alternate I)
7. They're Here (Alternate II)
8. Rise A Knight
9. Almaric's Peerage
10. Fireballs
11. Fireballs (Alternate)
12. Second Day Of War
13. Second Day Of War (Alternate)
14. Haircut
15. Invasion
16. Flag Up
17. Night Burial
18. Night Burial (Alternate)
19. Door Into Jerusalem
20. Wall Breached
21. Wall Breached (Alternate)
22. Ask For Terms
23. Everything
24. Saladin
25. Saladin (Alternative I)
26. Saladin (Alternative II)
27. Muslim
28. Smell Of Wood
29. Materna
30. Sibylla And Balin
31. Light Of Life
32. End Title
33. Movement III - Hope (Trailer Music) - Jonathan Elias
34. Daredevils (Trailer Music) - Julian Beeston
35. Unused Trailer Music I - Sorman & Nystrom
36. Unused Trailer Music II - Sorman & Nystrom

pierre reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-10 00:00:00
wonder how much of the new stuff is the 'additional music' whatever that means

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-10 00:00:00
Actually, you don't have to be very clever to understand that, just by comparing tracktitles, that this 'more complete recording sessions...' is probably just something like this:

- The extra alternates is most likely just the soundtrack versions, which again are most likely edits from the original recordings (which is already included on this 3 cd version)

- It seems like the unoriginal !! music used in the film are added too, which of course have nothing to do with Harry Gregson-Williams and his score !

- The 'trailer music' tracks, which also, again, have nothing really to do with Harry Gregson-Williams, and his score !

No track lengths are mentioned on this socalled longer version, so i'm just assuming this from the track names mentioned. But if you sum up all of this i mentioned, and take it away, i think you end up not far from the 'original' version listed above !

(And it's something similar for the Pearl Harbor 2CD version too !)

musicfan reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-07 00:00:00
I might be wrong but I think there is the same theme in the second "Extract" below and in Narnia...am I wright?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
It's also missing the film version of the Templar Ambush

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
@ron : this track is the last one of the official release...

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
Okay, this is a total noob question, I know. But it seems like those CDs are not official releases - and you can't buy them anywhere. I can't even find the normal Catwoman soundtrack. Arethese fanmade projects? Or japanese versions? A little help would be appreciated.

Alex

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
I just want to give some informations about this one...

I took my DVD, as usual, to verify the order of this one...

It was really difficult, because the score was cut a lot of time in the film, with temp-tracks of other composers (Goldsmith, Revell etc...) so cues in the film are really different (which not mean that there's new work in the film ;-))...

But as I noticed, this is in correct order, just put the alternates tracks at the end...

And I also noticel some differences in the cues used in the film :

-The Swordplay used in the film is the Alternate 2
-The Battle of Kerak used in the film is the Alternate 1
-And the 2nd Day of War used in the film is the Alternate

All with littles differences due to the editing...
;-)

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-01 00:00:00
No noises on my version mate. Otherwise fantastic edition, thanks god for these recording sessions albums. Illegal, yet the only way to appreciate this beautiful music in it's entirety.

John reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-31 00:00:00
I have this score, its great. Now I just need to the the complete Catwoman.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-31 00:00:00
Nice 3CD set.
My only complaint about it is that it has some noises here and there. It would have been perfect without those problems ! :'-(

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-31 00:00:00
Holy carp! 3 CDs!!!

matteo from italy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-31 00:00:00
One word,Wonderful!!

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