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The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.
Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me knowThe clips are on his Facebook page.
2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)
"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - At World's End
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 55'50
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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  1. Hoist The Colours (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski (Lyrics : Ted Elliott & Terry Rossio)
  2. Singapore (3:40) *
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli, Tom Gire, John Sponsler, Atli Örvarsson
  3. At Wit's End (8:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Geoff Zanelli, Henry Jackman, Atli Örvarsson
  4. Multiple Jacks (3:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  5. Up Is Down (2:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  6. I See Dead People In Boats (7:09) +
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson
  7. The Brethren Court (2:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson
  8. Parlay (2:10)
    Hans Zimmer
  9. Calypso (3:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  10. What Shall We Die For (2:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Nick Glennie-Smith
  11. I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time (10:45) *
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Henry Jackman, Atli Örvarsson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  12. One Day (4:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  13. Drink Up Me Hearties (4:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Geoff Zanelli, Henry Jackman
* Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Klaus Badelt

+ Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Blake Neely
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-10 00:00:00
Dakota, Gore just performed the guitar on that track, he didn't write anything... That cue is all HZ... ;)

And if you are curious about the Badelt / Neely themes from POTC 1 :

In "Singapore", Klaus's theme appears between 2:03 & 2:08.

The same theme appears in "I Don't Think Know Is The Best Time" between 1:55 & 2:11 and between 6:16 & 6:27.

As for Blake's theme, it appears in "I See Dead People In Boats" between 5:22 & 5:28.

All other themes you might recognize from Pirates 1 are HZ.

No one can beat me with the POTCs ! :P

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-10 00:00:00
Thanks!
Isn`t the theme in Up is Down (2:22 - 2:30) a variation on Klaus`s theme from PotC 1, too? :-)

This one has so many themes (and variations on the themes ... I think I even heard something like two themes playing on top of each other at the same time - in the beginning of "I Don`t Think Now is the Best Time") that some of them are hard to spot. :-)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-10 00:00:00
Well the theme is not the same, but yeah, the idea is similar... :)


As for those KB / Neely themes, it's not something I guessed, it's based on actual credits... KB & Neely do get royalties for these POTC 2 & 3 tracks !! :P

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-10 00:00:00
Ah, I thought they were credited somehow secretly... :) but now I see they are on ASCAP too. Sorry .)

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-09 00:00:00
Hm, interesting .. I didn`t know that Blake Neely wrote the original Jack`s theme (and Gore co-composed Hoist the Colours). It`s always great to discover something new about scores I like. :-)
Especially the love theme is simply great.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-09 00:00:00
I've detailed all 3 POTC soundtrack tracklists as possible, if anybody's interested... :)

Excellent reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-05 00:00:00
Excellent man... love these soundstrack... please produce more, more and more!

Dimitris reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-13 00:00:00
This is THE BEST!!!!! HANS YOU ARE THE GOD OF MUSIC!!!!!!

Brass reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-08 00:00:00
This was one of the best sountrack Ive ever heard. Hans Zimmer - you are god of music :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-29 00:00:00
We want complete scores for all pirate movies!

The Dimensioner reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-29 00:00:00
I can't believe people are still commenting on this. I have ONE thing to say: Where is our complete soundtrack? What's going to take? Perhaps hundreds, possibly thousands, of people to sign a petition...Who's with me? We need to set this in motion, somehow!

micay reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-24 00:00:00
an amazing soundtrack!!!!!

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-14 00:00:00
Sabrina: Yeah i agree this is a really great soundtrack :) i love it

Sabrina reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-14 00:00:00
Always gonna be my favourite - of all time!!!!!!! it's perfect from start to end. I'm just grateful we got to hear such great music!!! Danke, Hans!! :)

Ravi Krishna reply Replies: 0 || 2009-12-08 00:00:00
And it's acceptable because the cues blend together so seamlessly.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-12-08 00:00:00
"Although i really like that score... holy crap, 7 additional music composers? Its way too much."

It's what Zimmer does these days. Write some themes, let others do rest.

Oksana Kich reply Replies: 0 || 2009-09-26 00:00:00
"Et Wit's End" - it's amazing music...

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-08 00:00:00
Although i really like that score... holy crap, 7 additional music composers? Its way too much.

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-09 00:00:00
Alex Plomp,

It's from the "Hoist The Colours Suite" on the "Remixed & Unreleased" disc (track 6, disc 4) on the Soundtrack Treasures Collection set

Alex Plomp reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-08 00:00:00
I have recently bought this CD.
Later, I saw this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia4gKy9-nlw) video on Youtube, and the piece at 1:40 minutes really made a huge impression on me.

Unfortunately, that piece (where the horns play 2nd voice) of music is not on the CD (also not on track 3 'at words end').

Does anybody know where the original piece of the music is available?

Thanks

Alex

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-20 00:00:00
And the effect of those wailing guitars is super cool for that scene in the film!

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-20 00:00:00
Zimmer has said that "Parlay" was taken by Ennio morricone, so...it's all ok!!!

Badguy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-20 00:00:00
Well, Zimmer is fan of Ennio Morricone, for that PARLAY is the same sound of ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST, specially "Man with the Harmonica", but this theme is played too in NED KELLY by Klaus Badelt, but with a slowly variation... Listen it with more attention... why take sounds of another composers?? I wanna listen some more original... but, Zimmer has his moments of glory, yes sir!

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-19 00:00:00
Great soundtrack by Hans Zimmer!!!

tom reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-13 00:00:00
'I would like a day see a score made 100% by Hans Zimmer'

Me too. He's going down on my list.

jessica reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-09 00:00:00
this is the wst site ever butt the best film ever xxx

lord s.k reply Replies: 0 || 2009-01-08 00:00:00
your name is hans zimmer because you are HANS ZIMMER!!!!!!!

Adil Akgul reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-10 00:00:00
So by the first movie, it was a simple melody to remain in a non-musician human's mind; now it has become a concerto. Incredible, excellent composition; I suggest put the movie aside and enjoy the music for this is absolutely more than a soundtrack.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-24 00:00:00
I would like a day see a score made 100% by Hans Zimmer

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