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I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.<br>===============<br><br>No one dragged anything. <br><br>I briefly mentioned that franchise, among many other things you conveniently ignored (you do that a lot), to prove a simple point: that a director doesn't get to make 5 movies from the same franchise if people aren't enjoying his work. Simple as that. I never talked about the "quality" of each of those movies. Go see the comment again.<br><br>YOU picked up on this and started talking obsessively about the TF. <br><br><br>==============<br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. <br>==============<br><br>Look at your first comment here, pal. Look at it good! Snarky, dismissive, almost trollish, and with a clear intention to provoke people. Let me quote it: "Another day, another Bay film that doesn't know what fun is." <br><br>I only "go after" people who can't share their opinions in a respectful, mature way. There are a lot of comments here I disagreed with. But I never confronted those people. Why? Because they know how to properly share an opinion. <br><br>I only go after people who provoke, make fun of someone/something and troll. I've never "attacked" a person who didn't deserve that kind of response. My post history here speaks for itself. <br><br><br>===================<br>And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br>===================<br><br>Nope. Not even close. <br><br>You're just bitter that I'm using quotes from proven, talented people like Spielberg who support Bay. What quotes can your side use? Just quotes from knucklehead film bloggers and critics who hate half of what Hollywood makes. <br><br>No one with an actual integrity and knowledge of the film business can dismiss what Bay has accomplished. You may not like his stuff, but to completely dismiss him as a filmmaker is.......moronic. Truth is, it's only small fries on the internet who are angry that their favorite mid-level directors aren't as big and successful as Bay.<br><br>That's really the bottom line. <br><br>Speaking of that, who is YOUR favorite filmmaker? Go ahead, share it with us. Let's see who is that PERFECT filmmaker you drool over.<br><br>I'm really curious.<br><br>==============<br>By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br>==============<br><br>Huh??<br><br>When did I said that box office success or box office failure means that a movie is good or bad?? I never that. So if you don't mind, stop putting words in my mouth.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>==================<br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't<br>==================<br><br><br>Kinda ironic coming from the person who ignored the majority of the stuff I said here. Careful cherry-picking, convenient ignoring of stuff, and putting words in my mouth is apparently what you like to do. <br><br><br>================<br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.<br>================<br><br>Uhhhh, that's because it IS a joke. Because it is not true and because it was posted with the clear intention to provoke. You are the Negative Nancy here, my friend. Not me. Jesus Christ, even your nickname tells people exactly what they can expect from you......"Cynical Makooti". <br><br><br>====================<br>I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument<br>====================<br><br>Oh, that's true....................you're certainly not winning this argument. I mean, that's obvious. <br><br>And..... I never posted a lie. Just because "your sources" claim something different doesn't mean it's the truth. Pacific Rim wasn't a success - considering the huge expactations and the fact that the movie's budget is $200 freakin' million - and they DID try to start a franchise with 300. They failed. <br><br><br>================<br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br>================<br><br>That's rich. Coming from the guy who calls himself "Cynical Makooti". The guy who now plays the victim, even though he was the one who started this with a childish, trollish comment. <br><br>Look at my first reply to you. I was jokingly mimicking your style. Intentionally. Then you tried to be a smartass with your next reply. But EVEN THEN, I responded in a normal way with my second post. After that........you unleashed your true self. <br><br>And now, you're acting like the victim: "Poor me, being attacked by a crazy Bay fan!" <br><br>So please, don't talk about self-awareness. It ain't working.<br><br><br><br>================<br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br>================<br><br>Haha, maybe you should read more Forbes. Take a look at what they said about the entire (already failed) Pac Rim universe. Read a bit more on how much money the studio lost from the first flick and why they actually went with a sequel. It ain't because the first one was a beloved hit. <br><br><br>=======<br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br>=======<br><br>Okay, I believe you. Now, would you please share the link to that statement from Paramount. <br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>=============<br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br>=============<br><br>Hey, it's certainly a better and more reasonable place than your world. A world where you completely dismiss and ignore the accomplishments of one of the biggest filmmakers out there.<br><br>What's your next claim? <br><br>That Donnie Trump is the best President in history?<br><br><br>Have a nice day!Do any of you think that Junkie's Justice League score will ever get released or leaked? I was really excited to hear how Junkie planned on developing the themes used in the prior DCEU movies. Especially the Batman themes from BVS. It's a damn shame how WB handled that film."Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1."<br><br>Newsflash: I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.  Only then did I treat them as fair game.  Considering they make up a third of his filmography, I don't see why I SHOULDN'T address them.  How convenient is it that bringing them up is only ever valid when YOU do it?<br><br>More to the point, I already said I thought his decline kicked in from Pearl Harbor onwards.  The TF films are just his rock bottom.<br><br>"So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic."<br><br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes.  And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br><br>Pain & Gain and 13 Hours, his supposedly best films, also have his lowest box office turnouts.  13 Hours was a flat-out bomb.  By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films.  But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br><br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't.<br><br>"Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything."<br><br>What do you mean "next time?"  Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.  You already have this method down.  You're just too dishonest to admit it.<br><br>Notice how I avoided accusing you of anything until AFTER you started outright lying about movies and flaunting it as objective fact.<br><br>You insulted ME first, pal.  I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument.  Not for your opinions, not for your celebrity crush, for being a disingenuous twat. <br><br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br><br>"Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality."<br><br>Then it's a good thing I never quoted a single one of those, let alone as objective proof, isn't it?<br><br>Man, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, mistaking correlation for causation, slothful induction, strawmanning, I could make a bingo game outta this.<br><br>"So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?"<br><br>Not "according to me."  According to the studios that make the actual films.  And Forbes.  Remember Forbes?  You considered their word inarguable fact a couple posts ago.<br><br>https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacif ic-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/#3f3e 914d7c18<br><br>Well whaddaya know?<br><br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br><br>That thing you said TF5 was but actually wasn't.<br><br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves.  That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br><br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br><br>Wow!  Just wow!ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.
Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lol
I always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man.  Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want.  If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny.  When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.  That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here.  Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact.  I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here.  It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money.  Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.  But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career.  I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money.  Period.  Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie.  <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.
nopeYou realize there is a very easy and free method to get the music from that site, dont you?Random thought but this got me thinking about Zanelli's history with fantasy.<br><br>Whatever happened to his score for Delgo?  I know it's been accused of being super derivative of his other works anyways but still, it's weird to see a RCP score just drop off the face of the Earth like that.There's just something really charming about seeing a prototype for a famous future theme showing up in an old score.<br><br>Or in PotC's case, SCORES.The only ones I've seen properly confirmed are the cues Badelt had listed on his website. The issue with everything else is that there's certain themes that's been associated with certain people, but aren't credited for every appearance. Not to mention that I've never really seen much official credits elsewhere, so I take any that I've seen with a grain of salt.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - At World's End
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 55'50
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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  1. Hoist The Colours (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski (Lyrics : Ted Elliott & Terry Rossio)
  2. Singapore (3:40) *
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Geoff Zanelli, Tom Gire, John Sponsler, Atli Örvarsson
  3. At Wit's End (8:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Geoff Zanelli, Henry Jackman, Atli Örvarsson
  4. Multiple Jacks (3:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  5. Up Is Down (2:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman
  6. I See Dead People In Boats (7:09) +
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson
  7. The Brethren Court (2:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Lorne Balfe, Atli Örvarsson
  8. Parlay (2:10)
    Hans Zimmer
  9. Calypso (3:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  10. What Shall We Die For (2:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Nick Glennie-Smith
  11. I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time (10:45) *
    Hans Zimmer, Gore Verbinski, Henry Jackman, Atli Örvarsson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  12. One Day (4:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  13. Drink Up Me Hearties (4:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Geoff Zanelli, Henry Jackman
* Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Klaus Badelt

+ Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Blake Neely
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David reply Replies: 2 || 2017-12-13 12:13:08
Genuinely mind-blown at this score's under-appreciation...definitely deserved an Academy Award, or a nomination at the very least. One of the greatest film scores of all time.


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-13 13:36:00
I wouldn't want to sully this score's reputation by giving it an award as arbitrary and meaningless as the Oscar!


Mike2018-08-22 21:25:56
I don't think this score is underappreciated... At least, not on this site! ;)

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-14 08:07:09
OK.

Here's the lineup for the live performance of Pirates Of The Caribbean - At World's End (if i get right):

Keyboards, Electric Guitar & Bandleader
HANS ZIMMER

Cellos
STEVE ERDODY
MARTIN TILLMAN

Violin
LILI HAYDN

Drums & Percussion
LORNE BALFE
RYELAND ALLISON

Accordion
ATLI ORVARSSON

Electric Guitar
HEITOR PEREIRA

Horn
SUZETTE MORIARTY

Trombone
BRUCE FOWLER

Additional Keyboards
HENRY JACKMAN
JAMES S. LEVINE

And it's all mixed with the orchestral playback.
In a result, a great performance and a great music, as always!

Ds reply Replies: 3 || 2016-01-11 22:48:25
Just found out that track 13 had been renamed on the iTunes release: "Drink Up Me Hearties Yo Ho". Has it always been like that? Very strange anyway :-D


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-11 22:49:51
Yeah indeed ! O_o

That's pretty lame... lol


Ds2016-01-11 22:51:57
Now I understand why it was written like that in the promotional video for the live tour!!


Kusi2016-01-12 12:42:58
lol, strange decisions :D

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-11-29 22:50:11
I really love the version of that eerie theme from "Trying to Get Lost" (and the Mermaids suite) as it appears at the end Green Flash cue!

MacArthur reply Replies: 8 || 2014-02-22 17:49:04
Did Henry Jackman do up is down? Or did Zimmer do part of that as well.

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Mike2014-02-22 18:47:38
As I understand it, it's the main tune of Zimmer's love theme, arranged that way by Jackman. Whether Zimmer actively helped with that arrangement, idk. It's in the Marry Me suite, but Marry Me is both Zimmer and Jackman (meaning, presumably, that Jackman handled the Up Is Down part from the suite).

But, I don't know. In Hybrid's words, it's all wind.


Mike2014-02-22 18:50:03
IMO Marry Me is one of Zimmer's greatest suites, as an aside. ;)


Hybrid Soldier2014-02-22 19:40:09
2007 Jackman interview :

"On Da Vinci Code, I sort of felt that Hans was doing the whole thing. For The Simpsons, he wrote a tune for Homer Simpson which is so perfect in capturing his personality. He did that on the piano. He did a piano mock and gave it to the director who found it sounded pretty cool. But not being a musician, he couldn’t quite see it. So I came in and made a 6-minute orchestral suite based on that tune and exploring different ways. And then the director said : “OOOh, it’s gonna work!” So it all depends. Hans has different relationships with his composers, he knows what they’re good at and if he feels that you have an understanding on something, he steps back and just lets you do your thing. He’s very flexible."

There was one where he talked specifically about Up Is Down, but I can't find it anymore... lol


Mike2014-02-22 22:04:48
Do you remember anything it said? ;)


Anonymous2014-02-22 22:18:53
so the homer suite on hans page is zimmer and jackman huh? interesting


MacArthur2014-02-23 02:23:17
So...It is Zimmer & Jackman. Cool.


Anonymous2014-03-18 22:53:33
"There was one where he talked specifically about Up Is Down, but I can't find it anymore... lol"

Well in Zimmer's interview for this score, he definitely said the Irish fiddle/swashbuckling sound idea was Jackman. Then judging from the sound of the part at the end, I imagine that's Zimmer again, but I could be wrong. lol.


Anonymous2014-03-18 23:02:30
That interview is actually intensely interesting, Zimmer goes a great deal into the various cues and themes (and although I didn't know this before, he at least made it SOUND like he wrote the second half of "Beckett's Death", the big dramatic choir part when he gives up and is killed). I guess all this is more complicated, credit-wise, than it would seem. O_O

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-18 22:41:47
Hybrid, since the suites here were co-written to one degree or another (Marry Me is Zimmer and Jackman, Just Good Business is Zimmer and Balfe, Hoist the Colors is Zimmer/Verbinski and NGS...), do you know if any of them were done like the Homer suite from the Simpsons? So with Just Good Business, for example, did Zimmer write the whole suite on a piano, then Balfe orchestrated it, or did Balfe actually *write* that suite/part of it? It doesn't matter, just something I was curious about. :P

RealFfingMusic reply Replies: 2 || 2014-02-23 12:29:20
What is "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time" and "Drink Up Me Hearties" in the expanded score?


Mortifer V.2014-02-23 13:55:21
In the official score the "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time" has two parts which are chronologically reversed. In the extended score the tracks are "Beckett's Death", "Getting the Chest" and "The Wedding".
For "Drink Up Me Hearties" the tracks are "The Fountain of Youth" and the End Credits.


RealFfingMusic2014-02-24 05:48:56
Thankee mate.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2014-01-13 02:54:21
Hybrid, do you know how much of the Hoist the Colors suite is Nick Glennie Smith's work? Is it a co-written suite, where NGS contributed to this part, then HZ did the next section, or is it that Zimmer basically just did the main tune in its barest essentials and Nick went and made an epic suite out of it?

MacArthur reply Replies: 3 || 2013-08-17 05:34:20
are you telling me that the Director did some of the music?


Evenstar2013-08-17 11:42:28
he played guitar


Prott2013-08-17 12:23:55
... and collaborated on the lyrics for the "Hoist the Colours" theme.


MacArthur2013-08-18 04:27:45
Ok haha

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-30 19:31:53
I hate to be annoying, but I don't suppose a page will be made for this expanded score...? :D

Sidewinder reply Replies: 7 || 2012-11-30 11:08:14
Holy S...! The complete sessions have leaked!!!

P3 1m01v2 Hoist the Colours (1:31)
P3 1m02v6 Arrive in Singapore (2:18)
P3 1m03Av1 East India Trading Company (0:27)
P3 1m03Bv3 Getting Ready (1:01)
P3 1m05 7v25 Entering the Bath House (2:55)
P3 1m08v7 Steam Room (0:42)
P3 1m09Av6 Sao Feng Negotiation (5:14)
P3 1m09Bv10 Battle with the Brits (2:21)
P3 2m10v12 Battle Continues - Will Makes Deal (1:37)
P3 2m11v2 Crew Embarks (1:48)
P3 2m12v9 Trying to Get Lost (5:06)
P3 2m13Av10 Davy Jones Command (4:05)
P3 2m13Bv8 Over the Top (2:14)
P3 2m15v6 Multiple Jacks (7:31)
P3 3m16v11 Captain Jack Sparrow (1:19)
P3 3m16Av1 Crabs (0:22)
P3 3m17v6 Rescue Jack (2:25)
P3 3m18v2 Who's Captain - Below Deck (2:09)
P3 3m19v3 Souls at Sea (4:22)
P3 3m20Av4 Dreadlock Jack (2:03)
P3 3m20Bv14 The Green Flash (3:53)
P3 4m20Cv1 We're Back - Wet Powder (1:28)
P3 4m21v41 Jiggy Kraken (4:06)
P3 4m22v2 Jack & Beckett (8:36)
P3 4m22v3 Jack & Beckett (Alt.) (6:20)
P3 4m23v8 Seduction (2:36)
P3 4m24v3 Sao Feng's Death (1:36)
P3 4m24v3.6 Sao Feng's Death (Alt.) (1:36)
P3 5m25v4 Chinese Captured by Brits (0:44)
P3 5m26v13 Bootstraps - Elizabeth Locker (2:28)
P3 5m27v5 Jack Catches Will (1:02)
P3 5m28v9 Escape - Norrington Dies (4:16)
P3 5m29Av30 Mrs. Fish (1:21)
P3 5m29Bpt1v32 Davy Jones Tells Calypso's Story (1:29)
P3 5m29Bpt2v41 Shipwreck Cove (0:56)
P3 5m29Bpt2Altv36.1 Shipwreck Cove (Alt.) (0:57)
P3 5m29Bpt2Altv36 Shipwreck Cove (Alt 2) (0:57)
P3 6m30v5 Brethren Court Begins (1:23)
P3 6m31v4 Calypso Must Be Released (1:07)
P3 6m32v1 Davy Jones Visits Tia Dalma (3:57)
P3 6m33v5 Cuttlefish (1:19)
P3 6m34v5 Teague & The Code (1:37)
P3 6m36v1 King Elizabeth (1:33)
P3 6m37v6 Parlay (2:14)
P3 6m37Altv7 Parlay (Alt.) (2:15)
P3 6m38v1 Trading Places (2:11)
P3 6m39Av1 Flying Dutchman Prison (0:27)
P3 6m39v2 Immortality (0:47)
P3 7m40v2 Calypso on Deck (0:50)
P3 7m41v26 Releasing Calypso (5:02)
P3 7m42v1 Hoist the Colours Declaration (2:17)
P3 7m42Altv3 Hoist the Colours Declaration (Alt.) (2:13)
P3 7m43Av2 Maelstrom Pt. 1 (5:32)
P3 7m43BEndFixv5 Getting the Chest (1:30)
P3 7m43Bv2 Getting the Chest (Alt.) (1:24)
P3 7m43InsAv1 A Lost Bird (1:21)
P3 8m44Av11 The Wedding (3:12)
P3 8m44Aaltv12 The Wedding (Alt.) (3:13)
P3 8m44Bv5 Mealstrom Pt. 2 (5:17)
P3 8m44Baltv8 Maelstrom Pt. 2 (Alt.) (5:07)
P3 8m44Cv12 Davy Death (2:56)
P3 8m44D Liftoff (2:24)
P3 8m44ev11 Beckett Death (5:08)
P3 8m44EAltv12 Beckett Death (Alt.) (5:08)
P3 8m44fv5 Celebration (1:45)
P3 9m46v5 One Day (2:42)
P3 9m47v6 The Ship is Gone (1:19)
P3 9m48v6 The Fountain of Youth (1:32)
P3 9m49Av1 End Titles A (1:17)
P3 9m49Bv1 End Titles B (2:17)
P3 9m51v1 10 Years Later (0:54)


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-30 13:40:02
This tracklist is mine.

I mean, it was unnamed, I spent some time gathering all the official cue names I could find and made up the rest. :)


Oh and 2 cues are missing, 5m27B & 8m45... :/


Ds2012-11-30 15:06:48
Hell yes!!! Finally we get the part in the middle of "Liftoff" in good quality :)


xyz2012-11-30 15:34:35
we know it hybrid, we know it. this is again old news for you -.-


Master of Fate2012-11-30 15:59:56
Stfu xyz.


Anonymous2012-11-30 17:31:10
@DS

Yup. Liftoff was a theme and track that should really be on the official OST. Then the commercial would have all the greatest moment. Strange they left it off. Well at last we have it :)


Hybrid Soldier2012-11-30 17:41:30
My favorite part is basically Jack & Beckett !

The first part used in the film is the alternate one, then it gets back to the "non alt" one. Sad cause the alternate is much better (kinda Elfmanesque at some point). Love the very end of it, the big reprise of POTC 1 !

I pretty much have all the "who did what" on that one. I guess some would be interested ! :P


NM2012-11-30 17:59:29
Do you know who did all the Maelstrom stuff? It's pretty awesome.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-10 10:42:42
Let's all relax, take a deep breath, and listen to At Wit's End.

Preacher reply Replies: 8 || 2012-10-24 05:42:03
Are there any tracks on here and the Remixed and Unreleased album that contain themes/suites as opposed to cues, like Pirates 2?


MGDrone2012-10-24 06:21:32
All of the tracks on the Remixed and Unreleased album are theme suites sans Just Good Business and the remixes of course.


Mike2012-10-24 06:24:01
And The Heart of Davy Jones, and Marry Me, and Lord Cutler Beckett, and The Pirate Lord of Singapore... ;)


Mike2012-10-24 06:29:15
The above are theme suites. Sorry if that was unclear.


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-24 07:24:48
Just Good Business is a theme suite as well.

All on the OST are cues, apart from the beginning of Singapore which is from Pirate Lord Of Singapore.


MGDrone2012-10-24 18:35:01
Oops, I thought Just Good Business was Hans' original version of one of the final scenes (can't remember which).

@Mike: That's what I meant in my original comment haha.


Preacher2012-10-24 20:48:17
Thank you, everyone.


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-25 17:13:39
No no MGDrone, it's a HZ/LB theme suite. You can listen to the full version of it (in synth) on Lorne's website... :)


MGDrone2012-10-26 05:29:53
Now I remember where I saw it, it was on Wikipedia. Thanks for clearing that up, though!

Michael reply Replies: 1 || 2012-10-07 01:53:21
This score was the best of the Pirates movies, in my opinion. It was so big and emotional and really conveyed the idea that this was going to be the last movie...

And then they went and made On Stranger Tides. lol.


Edmund Meinerts2012-10-25 00:36:19
I totally agree. This one really did feel like an enormous work of art, like Zimmer and all his collaborators came together and really produced something excellent and rich and detailed (the number of themes in this score!!). In fact, each additional music composer had one really amazing cue: Atli Orvarsson has the Beckett death scene, Henry Jackman has Up is Down, Geoff Zanelli has Calypso, etc. And Zimmer's love theme is one of the best theme's he's ever written, IMO.

On Stranger Tides feels like such an afterthought, both the movie and the score.

Soundtrack44 reply Replies: 0 || 2012-08-08 11:45:35
I've found the complete Score in Youtube, it seems really good except two tracks with SFX. And it has a very good tracklist
*** EDITED ***

Warfighter reply Replies: 0 || 2012-05-16 03:05:53
Truly amazing score! One Day/ Marry Me Suite still gives me chills me every time.

kavka reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-06 21:52:43
thanks...

Mrs. Jones reply Replies: 35 || 2011-08-02 18:22:32
Expanded Score no FX

1. Hoist the Colours (1:29)
2. Singapore (2:16)
3. Sao Feng (2:51)
4. A Proposal (5:10)
5. East India Trading Company Attack (2:19)
6. Wills Treachery (1:34)
7. The Flying Dutchman (1:45)
8. Over the Edge, Over Again (5:04)
9. Davy Jones Command (1:57)
10. Sea of Stars (1:50)
11. Good and Lost (2:12)
12. Multiple Jacks (4:41)
13. At Wits End (1:47)
14. Which Way Ya Going? (0:25)
15. My Burden To Bare (0:51)
16. Souls At Sea (4:21)
17. Elizabeth & Feng (1:15)
18. Many Gifts (0:48)
19. Sao Feng's End (1:34)
20. Sao Feng's End (Alternate) (1:34)
21. Bootstrap (0:41)
22. Choosing a Side (4:13)
23. Calypso Mutinised (1:18)
24. Jones' Tale of Calypso (1:26)
25. Shipwreck Cove (0:53)
26. Shipwreck Cove (Alternate 1) (0:53)
27. Shipwreck Cove (Alternate 2) (0:54)
28. Meeting of the Pirates (1:09)
29. 9 Pieces of 8 (1:21)
30. Davy Jones & Calypso (3:46)
31. The Brethren Court/Cuttlefish (2:31)
32. What Say You? (0:37)
33. How's Mum? (0:46)
34. Parlay (2:10)
35. Parlay (Alternate) (2:14)
36. Multiple Jacks, Again (0:23)
37. Calypso (3:02)
38. What Shall We Die For? (2:03)
39. Peanut (0:46)
40. Maelstrom/Jack's Effects (1:19)
41. Mercer's End (1:21)
42. I Don't Think Now is the Best Time (5:49)
43. Part of the Ship, Part of the Crew (2:13)
44. Just Good Business (4:50)
45. One Day (4:01)
46. One Day (Alternate) (2:40)
47. Drink Up Me Hearties (4:31)


Mr. Fate2011-08-02 18:31:45
Oh, well uh...Hi there!


Hybrid Soldier2011-08-02 18:55:14
We clearly have a roddent problem here !


Mr. Jones2011-08-02 19:08:40
wtf? get out of here! I'm the only one with the score right now, you don't have crap .


Cobb2011-08-02 19:10:05
now I'm very confused... o.O


Agnt007dman2011-08-02 19:14:52
This is all total BS


Scottz2011-08-02 19:27:58
dek tu le bluff >:(

BLUFF.


Anonymous2011-08-02 19:29:01
Ugh another troll. Move along guys nuthin to see here


theeaglesfan0052011-08-02 19:36:06
clearly Mrs. Jones is a troll... she is missing 'Up Is Down'


Mr. Fate2011-08-02 19:36:12
I like how ya'll immediately call BS on a track list considering this is the first truly expanded At World's End track list that wasn't filled up with the suites from the Soundtrack Treasures Collection (not including what Mr. Jones posted earlier). Unlike all of you guys, I am a believer, and I believe this to be a legitimate track list. One may be reminded of the cynicism of those who posted track lists to PotC4 Demos, only to be disproved only a few weeks later. Come on, guys.


cheesy2011-08-02 19:50:08
*facepalm*


theeaglesfan0052011-08-02 19:51:55
i believe the track listing MR. JONES posted.. i would love to have it... i just have nothing to offer him in return. :/

i was so lucky to have someone on youtube send me the potc4 demos... i honored his request not to share it & i have not shared it... its the 41 track one that im sure everyone has now


Shawn2011-08-02 21:03:01
I've been following this mess since the Pirates 4 forums. I'm telling you right now - its all BS.

There IS no POTC4 complete score, or Inception, or POTC 3, or whatever this person claims he has.

If this guy was honest about it, then there's only ONE way to prove it and he is NOT doing that. Therefore he's just trolling you all.

My tip to you sir, if you actually DO have all you say you have - just post them all on Youtube as proof. Yes, all of it. Quality will be crap but at least you'll prove it.


Mr. Fate2011-08-02 21:10:37
What do you mean there are no complete scores for those movies? Of course there are complete scores--they exist...It's just that they are so far out of the public's reach that they might as well be completely made up. They are just kept locked up very tightly and it is difficult for them to get out. You all should be grateful to at least have a couple of totally legitimate track lists to hold onto until the time comes for this music to be become real.


Shawn2011-08-03 01:12:53
Like I said, it's one thing for news to come out that a compete score is forthcoming and it's another thing entirely for somebody to come in here, wave a tracklist around ("Let me just leave that there") that may or may not be real, and then flaunt that he has it.

So I say again, there IS no completed score available - wether professional or otherwise (unless someone rips it themselves, which they already have). You really should stop wasting people's time with this baiting. Ive been seeing this done many times already in the last few months and the behavior is getting old.


Jimmer2011-08-03 02:13:19
@Shawn: Trust me, I'll know for sure tonight once Mr. Jones emails me the rest of the tracks. I am an optimistic guy, so I'm keeping my hopes up that what this guy is boasting is real, but I'll know for sure soon. As for this Mrs. Jones, I am unaware of any of her claims so I can't comment on the validity of the track list she originally posted.


Shawn2011-08-03 02:21:32
@Jimmer..Nothing personal, man..I got nothing against being optimistic. Good luck to ya....Hopefully he aint pulling your leg.


Agnt007dman2011-08-03 02:30:06
I agree, I hope what your getting is the real deal!


shawn2011-08-03 06:05:47
imo, tho...i think its a bunch of
cockadoodledoo booooolsheeeeeaaaaat.


Emsmire2011-08-03 06:49:04
We'll just SEE about that, then... won't we???


shawn2011-08-03 07:18:21
u mean well HEAR about that...


WHUTEVA


Mr. Fate2011-08-06 16:47:34
I would like to call up this quote by Mr. Jones: "wtf? get out of here! I'm the only one with the score right now, you don't have crap." ...and say that this still holds.

Nobody trust any offers that Mr. Jones makes to you. He is a charlatan, a swindler. He never followed through on the music he was supposed to give Jimmer, as evidenced by the fact that nobody has any more music than what he posted on YouTube. He may very well have the music, but he does not want to share it with us lowly subjects.


zimmerbeotch2011-08-06 17:13:44
as far as Im concerned he's got nothing.


Anonymous2011-08-06 18:20:09
You're calling the eight cues he uploaded to YouTube "nothing"? Sure, a bit of it is on the OST, but how do you account for the rest of it?


zimmerbeotch2011-08-06 19:13:46
Considering the number of rips done over the years, plus the OST, what that guy delivered was...well...small potatoes. They aren't cues I listen to on a regular basis, really. So I dont recognize the value. Dont forget Youtube audio is crappy as well.


Anonymous2011-08-07 23:29:22
The number of rips done over the years? There's one on Le Blog de Chief Dundee, and there's one on the Shrine. All other 'expanded' versions of the score are just rearrangements of the OST and/or use the Soundtrack Treasures Colletion suites. Okay, there's a buttload of not-that-great DVD rips all over YouTube as well. If you don't listen to those cues on a regular basis, what cues do you listen to?

And calling the quality crappy doesn't mean anything--it's YouTube. Listen to the music and tell me if it has SFX in it. No? Then it is already better than anything already available.


zimmerbeotch2011-08-08 01:18:56
Those tracks dont signify much. I've heard prior rips (both online and off) where those tracks dont have any sfx at all...if not very minimal. The guy shouldve posted all of it on Youtube to get the best impression. The latter half of the score is where the SFX is most intrusive, anyway.

Like i said those tracks posted arent tracks i listen to anyway, so they mean nothing to me.


zimmerbeotch2011-08-08 01:22:31
Oh and I forgot to point out that this guy mr.jones may have posted those cues, but based on his behavior after the fact (and his scamming a person on here) I can't say I'd believe his claims anyway, nor would I want to share with him. I mean, would YOU?



John2011-09-05 05:28:24
I got this now and it's pretty legit guys. No SFX at all. It's all clean!!


ynreob2011-09-05 12:49:12
@John
Do you have this 47-Track Version or the 45-Track one, that leaked last week?


Mr. Fate2011-09-05 15:08:41
I'm pretty sure he's just talking about the slightly different 45-track version. I don't think anybody other than "Mrs. Jones" has this version, yet. It looks like it has a lot of tracks in common though.


John2011-09-05 21:21:40
I have the 45 track expanded score. It's all legit, no sfx at all.


Mr. Fate2011-09-05 23:05:17
FALSE! I guarantee you that your track 10 has DVD audio, and thus SFX, in its first 15 or so seconds. The 45-track score is not *completely* SFX-free.

Everything else, though is, as you say, "legit"--aside from the tracks that were borrowed straight from the OST. Certainly, by now, everybody ought to have the 45-track version, so John, you don't have anything special.


John2011-09-06 01:10:56
actually mine doesn't at all. I've listened to it over and over again and didn't hear any sfx whatsoever. So I don't know wut your talking about. All my tracks are clean, so idk what ur talking about. I've listened to all of it and they're all cleann.


Mr. Fate2011-09-06 02:36:02
I really don't like people who use words like "wut" and "ur".

I just find it weird that you would have the 45-track version that is available to everybody else--yet the only difference is that your track 10 does not have SFX in it. Track 10 is titled "Davy Jones Commanded", is it not? It's length should be in the ballpark of around 2:16? So, if there are not SFX, is the organ part louder than the music box part? Or are their levels the same as they are on the OST track that this is similar to?


Mr. Fate2011-09-06 04:01:35
I suppose I should have said, "I don't like it *when* people use internet shorthand like that." Didn't mean to sound too rude.

... reply Replies: 3 || 2011-09-15 18:52:43
01-Hoist The Colours
02-Singapore
03-At Wit's End
04-Multiple Jacks
05-I See Dead People In Boats
06-Up Is Down
07-Marry Me
08-Lord Cutler Beckett
09-The Empress
10-Part of The Ship, Part of The Crew
11-The Brethren Court
12-The Heart of Davy Jones
13-Parlay
14-Calypso
15-Never Shall We Die
16-Into The Maelstrom
17-The Battle
18-It's Just Good Business
19-One Day
20-Drink Up Me Hearties
21-End Credits


Agnt007dman2011-09-15 23:23:57
Same goes with this. Not a legit expanded, people. DVD audio...


Mr. Fate2011-09-15 23:50:13
^^^AND THIS^^^

Besides, we already have something WAY better than this piece-of-junk, falsely expanded score. None of this music even originated from DVD menus. It's all just the OST rearranged with the Soundtrack Treasures Collection suites thrown in. It might not even have any of the stuff from Magic Box Music.


Agnt007dman2011-09-15 23:58:51
Mr. Fate, you're right. The false Dead Man's Chest was made from DVD, this one using the SOundtrack Treasures Collection. It's pissing me off that these dumbass people keep doing this

John reply Replies: 5 || 2011-08-24 07:10:24
Is there a recording sesions leak for all three POTC scores as well? Those scores are gold, those will be another GREAT thing to have one day!!!!


Areozz2011-08-25 00:28:38
NO. Besides, what leaked was not the recording sessions for PotC4. They were merely the demos of tracks that would eventually get recorded with a real orchestra. Don't expect complete scores to ANY of the Pirates scores any time soon.


Anonymous2011-08-25 05:39:55
thats saying alot -__-


Areozz2011-08-25 23:18:00
What? You're right, it is saying a lot. Consider how long its been since the other movies came out. Have you ever even heard the slightest whisper about the possible existence of any complete Pirates score? I sure as hell have not.


Kabal2011-08-25 23:52:10
There are no complete scores. ONly DVD rips,


Mr. Fate2011-08-26 00:30:16
Well, Kabal, that isn't entirely true. There are complete scores out there. They just are not openly available. DVD rips are the best thing around right now. See Mrs. Jones' track list here or Mr. Jones' track list posted on the PotC4 page (as well as YouTube samples) for examples of what's out there somewhere.

Lasse reply Replies: 3 || 2011-08-08 01:20:50
Mrs.Jones must be the Joker of this site because she have created CHAOS :P


zimmerbeotch2011-08-08 01:25:12
Yah. Whats also funny is this guy Mr Jones could be ANYBODY either on here, or even on the Shrine or elsewhere under a different name. Fancy that, huh?



zimmerbeotch2011-08-08 01:27:39
if someone starts pushing a rare score out there, you might wanna start checking them out....Just in case. Im just saying.


Mr. Fate2011-08-08 05:05:49
^^^THIS

rabinfan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-08-04 09:57:44
can´t waaaaaait..You the MAN!!!!!

Iceboy reply Replies: 2 || 2011-03-13 00:00:00
Anyone got any info on the 2CD expanded score of this, without SFX? Its out there.


The Dimensioner2011-05-07 02:35:56
Pffft...2CD expanded score! I've heard from someone who knows some people that the real complete score is four CDs long.


Iceboy2011-05-07 06:18:29
Maybe so, but thats likely to be recording sessions. Expanded doesnt necessarily mean complete, you know.

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-17 00:00:00
Seriously, who the f is this troll. It's annoying. Look at all the posts he's left at random Scores about "great answers"

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-17 00:00:00
Sundance, Kaleigh, Latrice, Laneta GTFO your all the same annoying person >:(

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-23 00:00:00
News from Pirates 4 score! (from the "Rodrigo y Gabriela" website)

"Rodrigo Y Gabriela are proud and excited to announce a new musical venture. After months of hints and rumours they can now confirm that one of the summer’s most highly anticipated blockbuster movies, “Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides” will features original music by Academy Award-winning composer Hans Zimmer and Rod and Gab.

The score for Pirates of the Caribbean 4 brings together one of the most respected and sought-after composers (an Academy Award winner with a further eight additional Oscar nominations for films such as Gladiator, Inception, The Dark Knight, Batman Begins to name but a few) and the premier guitar playing duo in the world – Rodrigo Y Gabriela.

You will be able to hear the fruits of their labours when Walt Disney Records release the soundtrack for Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides on May 17, 2011."

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-30 00:00:00
Hi Hybrid,

I want to know more about the music from pirates of caribbean 3.

Are you here? I want to know for example what Zimmer did in At witt's end and I don't think now is the best time?

Also if all the suites from the unrealeased albums are by Himself alone.

Thanks!

elamornosedestruye@hotmail.com

The Dimensioner reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-19 00:00:00
@Hybrid, I was thinking of doing an analysis of the scores, but I would be interested in seeing yours. How can that be achieved?

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-11 00:00:00
@Hybrid

Oh ok, I didn't know you meant who wrote which track. I just thought I'd contribute =)

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