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ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.
Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man.  Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want.  If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny.  When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.  That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here.  Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact.  I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here.  It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money.  Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.  But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career.  I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money.  Period.  Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.
Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie.  <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nopeYou realize there is a very easy and free method to get the music from that site, dont you?Random thought but this got me thinking about Zanelli's history with fantasy.<br><br>Whatever happened to his score for Delgo?  I know it's been accused of being super derivative of his other works anyways but still, it's weird to see a RCP score just drop off the face of the Earth like that.
There's just something really charming about seeing a prototype for a famous future theme showing up in an old score.<br><br>Or in PotC's case, SCORES.The only ones I've seen properly confirmed are the cues Badelt had listed on his website. The issue with everything else is that there's certain themes that's been associated with certain people, but aren't credited for every appearance. Not to mention that I've never really seen much official credits elsewhere, so I take any that I've seen with a grain of salt.This comment was made before that was properly confirmed, so he was likely going to do it solo at the time.I thought Hans was collaborating with Faltermayer For Top Gun 2From both ASCAP and GEMA
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Hans ZimmerKlaus BadeltSteve JablonskyJames S. Levine
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAdditional Music
Pearl Harbor (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 184'17
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  1. Main Titles (2:28)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. I'm A Pilot (0:34)
  3. Young Rafe To The Rescue (1:20)
  4. Rafe Begs Evelyn (0:39)
  5. First Kiss (1:27)
  6. First Date (1:52)
  7. Rafe Says Goodbye (3:16)
  8. Train Station Goodbye (1:38)
  9. Newsreel - Rafe Arrives (0:54)
  10. Welcome To The R.A.F. (1:03)
  11. Meet The Japanese (1:06)
  12. Pearl Harbor (1:01)
  13. Danny Arrives - Letters From Rafe (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Gavin Greenaway
  14. Japanese Prepare - Battle Of Britain (Part 1) (2:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  15. Battle Of Britain (Part 2) - Rafe Shot Down (1:21)
  16. Evelyn Gets The News (2:55)
  17. Carrier Prep (1:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  18. Mourning Montage (1:00)
  19. Evelyn Says Goodbye To Rafe (0:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  20. Missing Japanese Fleet (0:48)
  21. Danny & Evelyn Make Love (2:57)
  22. Evelyn Can't Break Up - Spy - Romp (3:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  23. Kimmel Briefing - The Dentist (2:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  24. Rafe Returns (1:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  25. Rafe Gets The News (1:48)
  26. Calendar Page Turns (0:29)
  27. The Attack (6:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  28. We're Being Bombed (0:38)
  29. Evelyn Awakes (0:42)
  30. The Captain Dies - Airstrip Bombed (2:43)
  31. Dorie The Hero (0:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  32. Oklahoma - First Hospital (4:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  33. Roosevelt Gets The News (2:46)
  34. Bunker Tension (0:57)
  35. Air Battle A (2:47)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  36. Air Battle B (3:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  37. Air Battle C (2:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  38. Hospital Carnage - Destroyed Fleet (2:38)
  39. Men In Trouble (3:09)
  40. Trapped Sailors - Roosevelt's Speech (3:32)
  41. President Stands - Newsreel (1:02)
  42. Funeral (1:58)
  43. I'm Pregnant (3:58)
  44. Top Secret (0:49)
  45. Rafe Burns The Letters (0:29)
  46. Doolittle Training Montage (2:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  47. Tip Of The Sword (1:05)
  48. 30 Seconds Over Tokyo (8:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  49. Crash Landing (2:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  50. Final Confrontation - Return Home (6:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  51. End Titles (1:37)
  52. There You'll Be - Faith Hill (3:42)
    Diane Warren, Hans Zimmer, James S. Levine, Fiachra Trench
  53. End Credits (2:27)
    Hans Zimmer
  54. Lament (Full) (2:34)
  55. Air Battle (Original Demo) (8:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  56. Tennessee (Alternate) (3:40)
  57. Brothers (Alternate) (2:08)
  58. Rafe Says Goodbye (Alternate) (3:16)
  59. Danny Arrives - Letters From Rafe (Alternate) (1:31)
  60. Evelyn Gets The News (Alternate) (0:55)
  61. Missing Japanese Fleet (Alternate) (0:40)
  62. Rafe Gets The News (Alternate) (1:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  63. Oklahoma - First Hospital (Alternate) (4:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  64. Roosevelt Gets The News (Alternate) (2:46)
  65. Air Battle (Alternate) (8:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  66. Air Battle B (Alternate) (3:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  67. Air Battle B (Insert 1) (0:34)
    Klaus Badelt
  68. Air Battle B (Insert 2) (1:05)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  69. Top Secret (Alternate) (0:25)
  70. 30 Seconds Over Tokyo (Alternate) (8:38)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  71. Final Confrontation - Return Home (Alternate) (6:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  72. Lament (Small) (2:33)
  73. There You'll Be - Faith Hill (Alternate) (3:41)
    Diane Warren, Hans Zimmer, James S. Levine, Fiachra Trench
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Kent Φberg reply Replies: 0 || 2018-11-24 15:26:53
Hmm, there are now two End Credits cues. That doesn't seem right.

I take it the composer credits for this one will stay incomplete?

Bayhem reply Replies: 5 || 2017-11-02 20:09:31
For the hardcore Zimmer fans who don't own the Vista Series DVD edition of "Pearl Harbor", here's a piece from Hans's audio commentary for the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLxS4oooV0o


Bioscope2017-11-03 04:57:13
Very nice. I just wish I can track down that clanging insert to complete edit of the sessions.

Does anyone know where it comes from? Was it tracked? Is it from another film? I even wondered if it came from The Last Samurai...


Bayhem2017-11-03 18:13:53
Sorry if I'm missing something, but what do you mean by "clanging insert"?


Bioscope2017-11-05 05:08:45
In that clip you shared, you hear the end of Crashlanding aka Brave Men. Then you hear some Bay microedits from various other places. Then there ia a metallic clanging percussion before segueing into Heart of a Volunteer that is nowhere available in the sessions.

Any ideas?


Bayhem2017-11-06 14:01:38
Aha, I see. Now I know what you mean. The part with the Japanese soldiers screaming and pointing their weapons at Affleck and his crew.....I think I've heard this piece as part of one of the score releases. Unfortunately, I don't have the mp3 files anymore and can't recall the name of the track. But I clearly remember hearing that metallic percussion in one of the tracks from the expanded score. It was a few years back though.....

I'll have to do some digging....


Mr Tweedy2017-11-06 23:52:25
Unfortunately, the "clanging insert" isn't available anywhere on the album / expanded score or complete score. Probably a late minute addition !

Karen reply Replies: 1 || 2017-06-20 16:40:51
And Then I Kissed Him . . .

How do I get the music score for "And Then I Kissed Him?" My daughter is getting married in July 2017 and wants to come down the aisle to this song with piano, cello, violin - and/or string quartet.


Bayhem2017-06-30 10:04:51
You mean you need the actual notes, or just a permission....Anyway, wedding is a family event, so at the end of the day I don't think it would be a problem for the musicians there to play that music live. As long as it's not used as a promotional wedding video on YouTube, I don't think it would be an issue. Or....you can just play it on really loud speakers. Not the same thing as a live performance, I know, but worst case scenario, that's what you gotta do :)

le man reply Replies: 1 || 2007-02-02 00:00:00
where the crap do i get this score


karen2017-06-20 16:39:58
How do I get the music score for "And Then I Kissed Him?" My daughter is getting married in July 2017 and wants to come down the aisle to this song with piano, cello, violin - and/or string quartet.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 4 || 2007-01-10 00:00:00
Yes, this is only an expanded version, but this is a great one (finally) !
The other versions were badly made from DVD Isolated score + official score, at least this one is in complete CD-audio quality, with plenty of new music.
There are some cues missing, but if you add "december 7th" and "heart of volunteer" from official CD, you almost have the complete score.

Anybody noticed how weak the action cues sound ? The orchestra seems bored, this is pretty incredible. Nice romantic and dramatic music, but such a weak action score...


Orkney darkdragon2016-05-08 00:36:33
Hi all I want is one track. A classical section not from hans it was nicked for the floating dead and flag recovery scene. Not on any CD official, unofficial or just plain junk, what was it, any one with classical knowledge out there? Thanks


GR72016-05-08 00:53:43
Orkney darkdragon --> try to read the endcredits of the movie. If they used a piece of classical music, or any music not composed for the film, its credited at the end.


madmartigan2016-05-08 23:01:08
Orkney : do you mean the scene when Red nears, crying for Betty ? After the attack and before the doolittle's mission ?


Leo782016-10-09 22:03:12
Anyone know where can I download this score?
I tried digging around the net searching for a download link. But all I could find was just dead links and bad bootlegs.
Thanks

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2015-03-17 17:30:52
Oh good grief, yet another list of an alleged (and of course, unofficial) "complete" score that we will never see, hear or be able to buy. WHAT IS YOUR POINT??


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-17 17:36:55
What's yours? It's for archival purposes. Besides, if there's one thing I've learned, it's never say "never" when it comes to complete scores, particularly MV/RC ones.


Anonymous #22015-03-18 03:57:44
This too was leaked forever ago. If you want it, go get it. Otherwise, screw off.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2015-01-07 23:15:51
Added some of the known credits... :)


Edmund Meinerts2015-01-08 14:19:54
Thanks for this and Prince of Egypt...Unfortunately my playlists for both scores look very different. I don't know if it's combined tracks, or missing tracks, or what...So I still don't know what to credit to who!

What I have looks more like TurtlePower's playlist just below...but even that is a little different. Aren't "unofficial releases" fun? :/ :p


kentobe2015-03-17 12:02:51
I didn't know Zimmer was involved with There You'll Be. Why wasn't he officially credited? He would have had another Oscar nom to his resume if he had been.

Did Zanelli do the Japan Theme by himself or was it based on one of Zimmer's theme suites?


Edmund Meinerts2015-03-17 12:45:07
I don't think Zimmer did theme suites back then.

Anonymous reply Replies: 5 || 2007-01-10 00:00:00
That's not the complete score!! It's just an expanded version.


TurtlePower2014-07-12 05:08:07
The one I have some what more or less matches what's posted here. No sorry I won't upload...

01- 1m1 Tennessee (2:27)
02- 1m2 First Flight (0:34)
03- 1m3 Young Rafe To The Rescue (1:19)
04- 1m5b Rafe Begs (0:39)
05- 2m8 First Kiss (1:27)
06- 2m9 First Date (1:52)
07- 2m11 Saying Goodbye (3:16)
08- 2m12 Brothers (Part 1) (1:38)
09- 2m13 News Reel 1 (0:54)
10- 2m14 Welcome To The R.A.F. (1:02)
11- 2m15a Japanese Plans (1:06)
12- 2m15b Pearl Harbor (1:01)
13- 2m17 Letters (1:56)
14- 3m18 Japanese Espionage / Battle Of Britain (2:26)
15- 3m21 Rafe Crashes (1:21)
16- 3m22a Brothers (Part 2) (2:56)
17- 3m22b Japanese Training (1:09)
18- 3m25 Mourning Montage (1:00)
19- 4m28b Evelyn Turns Over A New Leaf (0:50)
20- 4m28c Japanese Disappear (0:38)
21- 4m29 Danny and Evelyn (2:57)
22- 4m30 Pearl Harbor At Sunset (3:05)
23- 4m32 Kimmel Briefing / The Dentist (2:04)
24- 4m34 Rafe Returns (1:56)
25- 4m35 Bad News (1:43)
26- 5m38 Calender Page Turns (0:28)
27- 5m39 The Attack (Part 1) (6:31)
28- 5m39a Bombs (0:38)
29- 5m40 Awakening (0:41)
30- 5m41-42 Airstrip (2:40)
31- 5m43 Dorie The Hero (0:57)
32- 6m44a Infamy (4:39)
33- 6m44b Hospital (2:43)
34- 6m45 Hide (0:55)
35- 6m46a Air Battle (Part 1) (2:47)
36- 6m46b Air Battle (Part 2) (3:49)
37- 6m46c Fighting Back (2:04)
38- 7m47a Rafe and Danny Returns (2:39)
39- 7m47b Hospital Chaos (3:08)
40- 7m48 Allocution (3:31)
41- 7m49 President's Stand (1:02)
42- 7m52 Funeral (1:57)
43- 7m53 I'm Pregnant (3:52)
44- 7m53a Top Secret (0:48)
45- 8m54 Burning The Letters (0:29)
46- 8m55 Doolittle Training (2:59)
47- 8m56 Tip Of The Sword (1:04)
48- 8m57 War (8:35)
49- 9m60 Crash Landing (2:34)
50- 9m61 Heart Of A Volunteer (6:04)
51- 9m62 Epilogue (1:38)
52- There You'll Be (3:41)
53- 2m11 Saying Goodbye (Alternate) (3:16)
54- 3m22a Brothers (Part 2 Alternate) (0:56)
55- 2m17 Letters (Alternate) (1:31)
56- 4m28c Japanese Disappear (Alternate) (0:48)
57- 4m35 Bad News (Alternate) (1:48)
58- 6m44a Infamy (Alternate) (1:28)
59- 6m46 Air Battle (Alternate) (8:30)
60- 6m46 Insert 1 (0:34)
61- 6m46 Insert 2 (1:05)
62- 7m53 I'm Pregnant (Alternate End)
63- 9m61 Heart Of A Volunteer (Alternate) (6:03)
64- Lament (Full) (2:34)
65- Lament (Small) (2:31)
66- There You'll Be (Rock Mix) (3:41)


Joe2014-07-12 10:23:44
Nobody asked you to upload anything!!


badbu2014-07-12 21:28:58
Yes, thats the real sessions ;)


Hybrid Soldier2014-07-12 21:30:21
There are false ones ? O_o


smitty2014-10-08 12:12:24
so, what is the correct list hybrid?

mecasisi reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-22 08:02:05
espero descargarla completa

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-12-16 18:07:38
anyone got credits?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2013-10-27 22:02:47
Considering how long the score is I really can't think of many notable cues outside the album release


Marco2013-10-27 22:55:23
'fighting back' ? which isn't listed here but is a very significant cue in the movie

badbu reply Replies: 1 || 2013-10-27 12:45:13
i want this...NOW! :)


...2013-10-27 12:48:11
Well it is available on the internet.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-25 00:40:45
Hybrid, any info on who did what?

Felix reply Replies: 5 || 2012-12-31 00:12:26
Hybrid-Soldier when this score arrive ?


Mike2012-12-31 02:09:05
Sorry, friend. This isn't the place for that.


David2012-12-31 04:21:41
LOL a score does not "arrive". I have it, maybe it will leak soon to you-know-where. Afterall, TDKR leaked, didn't it?


axel 2012-12-31 21:00:55
we have to wait...wait...wait...and...wait !!! :(


G2013-01-01 15:23:10
Well the sessions has arrived.


Jimmer2013-01-01 15:34:18
@Hybrid: Do you have the composer list for this score as well? Sorry to keep ask you that, I'm just really OCD about who composed what. Thanks.

axel reply Replies: 2 || 2012-10-13 19:28:05
A new track list for this score ??

Is-it really COMPLETE now ?? I hope so...


Mr. Fate2012-10-13 22:35:36
No, it is not new. If you scroll down a little bit, you'll see posts that date back to 2008. Why don't you check with those people to see if it is real?


axel2012-10-15 21:23:40
If you look at the track list on the website...it's a new one !!! Before that, the HZ-website presented a [complete score - No SFX] with 2CD...Not 3!(and an other cover front)
Now, this page concerning Pearl Harbor has been updated ! I don't know when, but it was...

I know the 3-CD track list on the last post... I posted it !

So...I'm still waiting for this new Complete edition...

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-13 23:24:33
WOW

The Pearl Harbor Complete Score without SFX

Ele reply Replies: 1 || 2010-06-08 00:00:00
Air Battle is awesome!


anoopa2012-03-10 12:35:15
I have the version that was recently uploaded and if it's a fake, then it's a darn good one. There has been no flaws and no blatant transitions that would suggest a fan-edit. I don't get what the griping is about. As far as I'm concerned we have a legit expanded soundtrack, which is always something to be grateful for.

Juni reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-10 11:49:56
Wonderfulο»Ώ as always, and so etimoonal and beautiful! I haven't seen Pearl Harbor for a while, but it's one of my favorite movies, so now I really just want to watch it!!! sad but its a happy ending thank you Hawaii61767 for posting this instrumental only it makes me feel relax at the sametime reminism my past

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Kelly reply Replies: 5 || 2011-09-21 15:34:03
what about this ?? is it real? or it's just a fan made??
CD 1
01. Tennessee, 1923 2:27
02. I'm a Pilot 0:34
03. Young Rafe to the Rescue 1:19
04. News Flash #1 * 0:18
05. Rafe Begs 0:38
06. First Kiss 1:27
07. First Date 1:53
08. Rafe Says Goodbye 3:16
09. Train Station Goodbye 1:39
10. News Flash #2 — Welcome to the R.A.F. — Part 1 * 0:53
11. Welcome to the R.A.F. — Part 2 * 0:50
12. Meet the Japanese 1:05
13. Pearl Harbor 0:59
14. New Nurses 0:15
15. Letters from Rafe * 1:30
16. Japanese Prepare — Battle of Britain (Outtake) 2:26
17. Rafe Shot Down 1:21
18. Evelyn Gets the News — Part 1 0:50
19. Evelyn Gets the News — Part 2 2:55
20. Japanese Carrier Preparations 1:10
21. Morning Montage 0:59
22. Evelyn Says Goodbye to Rafe 0:50
23. Japanese Disappear 0:43
24. Pearl Harbor at Sunset 2:57
25. Evelyn Can't Break Up — Spy Romp 3:05
26. Kimmel Briefing — The Dentist 2:02
27. Rafe Returns 1:52
28. Rafe Gets the News * 1:51
29. Calendar Page Turns 0:30
30. Hostilities Imminent — The Attack 6:29
31. We're Being Bombed! 0:37
32. Evelyn Awakes 0:40
33. The Captain Dies — Airstrip Bombed (Outtake) 2:41
34. Dorie the Hero 0:54
35. The Sinking of the Oklahoma 4:38
36. Roosevelt Gets The News 2:36
37. Bunker Tension 0:55
38. Bombers Overhead — Air Battle 7:09
39. Courage * 2:03
40. Aftermath * 0:33
41. Hospital Chaos 5:08

CD 2
01. Trapped Sailors — Roosevelt's Speech 3:30
02. The President Stands Up — News Flash #3 1:01
03. Funeral 1:56
04. I'm Pregnant 3:52
05. Top Secret 0:48
06. Rafe Burns the Letters 0:27
07. Doolittle Training 2:56
08. Tip of the Sword 1:03
09. 30 Seconds over Tokyo 8:35
10. Retaliation 0:45
11. Empty Tanks — Pinned Down * 3:31
12. Crash in China * 1:04
13. Sacrifice — Tennessee, 1945 * 7:16
14. There You'll Be (vocals by Faith Hill) 3:44
15. End Credits 6:11
16. Glenn Miller — Little Brown Jug 2:52
17. Woody Herman — Blues in the Night (My Mama Done Tol Me) 3:14
18. Count Basie & His Orchestra — Jumpin' at the Woodside 3:08
19. Louis Armstrong — Jeepers Creepers 4:41
20. Kalama's Quartet — Lei Ika Mokihana 2:43
21. The Kalima Brothers — Kaulana O Hilo Hanakahi 3:01
22. Kalama's Quartet — Hilo March 2:35
23. The Mills Brothers — Miss You 2:33
24. Teaser 2:00
25. Graeme Revell, Steve Jablonsky — Trailer 3:18
26. Steve Jablonsky — Trailblazing 2:53

CD 3
01. Tennessee, 1923 (Alternate) 1:01
02. Young Rafe to the Rescue (Alternate) 0:39
03. First Date (Alternate) 0:37
04. Welcome to the R.A.F. — Part 1 (Alternate) 1:01
05. Welcome to the R.A.F. — Part 2 (Alternate) 0:41
06. Pearl Harbor (Alternate) 0:58
07. New Nurses (Alternate) 0:14
08. Letters from Rafe (Alternate) 1:41
09. Japanese Prepare (Alternate) 0:40
10. Evelyn Can't Break Up — Spy Romp (Alternate) 2:51
11. Rafe Gets the News (Alternate) 1:43
12. Hostilities Imminent — The Attack (Alternate 1) 3:54
13. Hostilities Imminent (Alternate 2) 1:08
14. The Attack (Alternate 2) 1:13
15. Hostilities Imminent — The Attack (Alternate 3) 3:46
16. Evelyn Awakes (Alternate) 0:40
17. Dorie the Hero (Alternate) 0:56
18. Roosevelt Gets the News (Alternate) 2:44
19. Air Battle (Alternate) 8:29
20. Air Battle (Short Alternate — Part 1) 3:10
21. Air Battle (Short Alternate — Part 2) 0:29
22. Top Secret (Alternate) 0:24
23. Doolittle Training (Alternate) 1:48
24. Tip of the Sword (Alternate) 0:58
25. Tennessee, 1945 (Alternate) 1:19
26. End Credits (Alternate) 6:25
27. Steve Jablonsky — Japanese (Demo) 2:08
28. Steve Jablonsky — Impact (Demo) 2:26
29. Journey (Full Version) 3:48
30. Graeme Revell — Rain Forever (Full Version) 2:33
31. Steve Jablonsky — Goliath (Full Version) 1:59
32. Pearl Harbor (KMN Score Remix) 12:07

CD 4
01. Pearl Harbor — Suite #1 34:15
02. Pearl Harbor — Suite #2 45:48



Dawn2011-09-21 16:44:30
Are... you... kidding ? It's screaming "FANMAAAAADE !!!!"
It's basically the expanded score with somme DVD-ripped cues added (you can still see the * at the end of the tracks that contain SFX) and songs and sh*t added ("End Credits Alternate", oh please...). Even the long-time-proved-fake Jablonsky demos are here... again.

And suites that are 34 and 45 minutes long...?! How could someone believe this is actually REAL ? :S


Kelly2011-09-21 16:46:42
ok Dawn..thank you for your infarmations :)


jordy112012-02-28 02:49:08
Sorry..where i can buy these CD?


Areozz2012-02-28 03:07:02
Hi, jordy11, these CD be bootlegs and cannot therefore be bought. You will have to hunt around the internet for a short time before you find what you seek. Besides, there are bajillions of expanded scores for Pearl Harbor out there. It should not be too hard to find.


Mr. Charles2012-02-28 06:05:15
The REAL Pearl Harbor exists only among the elitists. I have seen a cue sheet with slates. This was years ago though, I barely remember

jahage reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-03 00:00:00
How do I get a complete score CD since it's not in stores.

Ruthlessgravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-21 00:00:00
I have what axel just listed, practically a complete score.

Very awesome to have a complete score to Pearl Harbor compared to that of the retail version.

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-10 00:00:00
Axel, I really don't see the point in having a Pearl Harbor 3CDs or 4CDs where you add SFX versions of some cues (Empty Tanks - Pinned Down...), and non-original songs you barely hear in the movie (Hilo March...)...
People still continue to amaze me ! I recommend any smart people to stick to the actual 2CD bootleg, adding the missing cues from the official release and DVD isolated cues, this makes a strong 120minutes or so of good, SFX free original score !
:P

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-12 00:00:00
Here a tracks list from a 3 CD edition :

Tracks List CD 1 :

01 Tennessee, 1923
02 I'm A Pilot
03 Young Rafe To The Rescue
04 Young Rafe To The Rescue (Alternate)
05 News Flash # 1 *
06 Rafe Begs
07 First Kiss
08 First Date
09 Rafe Says Goodbye
10 Train Station Goodbye
11 News Flash # 2 / Welcome To The RAF part 1 *
12 Welcome To The RAF part 2 *
13 Welcome To The RAF part 2 (Alternate 1)
14 Welcome To The RAF part 2 (Alternate 2)
15 Meet The Japanese
16 Pearl Harbor
17 Pearl Harbor (Alternate)
18 New Nurses
19 New Nurses (Alternate)
20 Letters From Rafe *
21 Letters From Rafe (Alternate)
22 Japanese Prepare / Battle Of Britain (Unused)
23 Japanese Prepare (Alternate)
24 Rafe Shot Down
25 Evelyn Gets The News part 1
26 Evelyn Gets The News part 2
27 Japanese Carrier Preparations
28 Morning Montage
29 Evelyn Says Goodbye To Rafe
30 Japanese Disappear
31 Pearl Harbor At Sunset
32 Evelyn Can't Break Up / Spy Romp
33 Evelyn Can't Break Up (Alternate) / Spy Romp (Alternate)
34 Evelyn Can't Break Up (Short Version)
35 Kimmel Briefing / The Dentist
36 Rafe Returns
37 Rafe Gets The News
38 Rafe Gets The News (Alternate)
39 Calendar Page Turns
40 Hostilities Imminent / The Attack
41 Hostilities Imminent (Alternate 1) / The Attack (Alternate 1)
42 Hostilities Imminent (Alternate 2)
43 The Attack (Alternate 2)
44 Hostilities Imminent (Alternate 3) / The Attack (Alternate 3)
45 Were Being Bombed !
46 Evelyn Awakes
47 Evelyn Awakes (Alternate)


Tracks List CD 2 :

48 The Captain Dies / Airstrip Bombed (Unused)
49 Dorie The Hero
50 Dorie The Hero (Alternate)
51 The Sinking Of The Oklahoma
52 The Sinking Of The Oklahoma (Alternate part 1)
53 The Sinking Of The Oklahoma (Alternate part 2)
54 Roosevelt Gets The News
55 Roosevelt Gets The News (Alternate)
56 Bunker Tension
57 Bombers Overhead / Air Battle
58 Air Battle (Alternate)
58 Air Battle (Short Alternate part 1)
60 Air Battle (Short Alternate part 2)
61 Courage
62 Aftermath
63 Hospital Chaos
64 Trapped Sailors / Roosevelts Speech
65 The President Stands Up / News Flash #3
66 Funeral
67 I'm Pregnant
68 Top Secret
69 Top Secret (Alternate)
70 Rafe Burns The Letters
71 Doolittle Training
72 Doolittle Training (Alternate)
73 Tip Of The Sword
74 Tip Of The Sword (Alternate)
75 30 Seconds Over Tokyo


Tracks List CD 3 :

76 30 Seconds Over Tokyo (Short Version)
77 Retaliation
78 Empty Tanks / Pinned Down
79 Crash In China
80 Sacrifice / Tennessee 1945
81 Tennessee 1945 (Alternate)
82 There You'll Be - Performed By Faith Hill
83 There You'll Be (Alternate) - Performed By Faith Hill
84 End Credits
85 End Credits (Alternate)
86 Domestic Trailer (Graeme Revell - Steve Jablonsky)
87 International Trailer (Steve Jablonsky)
88 Teaser (Hans Zimmer)
89 Little Brown Jug - Performed by Glenn Miller
90 Blues In The Night - Performed by Woody Hermann
91 Jumpin At The Woodside - Performed by Count Basie & His Orchestra
92 Jeepers Creepers - Performed by Louis Armstrong
93 Lei Ika Mokihana - Performed by Kalama's Quartet
94 Kaulana O Hilo Hanakahi - Performed by The Kalima Brothers
95 Hilo March - Performed by Kalama's Quartet
96 Miss You - Performed by The Mills Brothers



Total Timing : 219'39

@Maps: reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-11 00:00:00
You think Go Fuck Off would be an appropriate reply to your post? :)

As you might have already noticed, this web site is mainly dedicated to the music of one one person - a certain man with name Hans Zimmer (even though the rest of the RCP/MV composers are a topic as well) - therefore, people interested in his music are coming here to discuss it. Now there's absoutely nothing wrong with not liking the Pearl Harbor score, that's completely up to you and it's fine if you let us know about your reasons. Thing is - nobody gives a flying fuck about your Goldsmith comparisons whatsoever. I kinda doubt Tora! Tora! Tora! and Pearl Harbor are very similar films anyway (probably for the reasons you listed, although I'm not sure if there was really as much sex in the film as you're saying there was - but maybe this is just a subjective issue and if you're living in the woods, waiting for a virgin to come to visit you every ten years, I can grasp why the amount of sex in this film which I - for other reasons - don't like much as well is pretty much an overkill to you).

You wanna advertise Goldsmith? That's ok, go to the forums and create your Goldsmith thread. Don't do it here. Wrong place. Hush hush.

Maps reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-27 00:00:00
I liked Jerry Goldsmith's work for "Tora! Tora! Tora!" better. This music doesn't sound if Hans Zimmer and his five (!!!) co-composers were very motified. The theme for the japanese sounds very pseudy-ethnic. Goldsmith wrote a very great theme for the japanese military.

"Pearl Harbor" wasn't also as good as "Tora! Tora! Tora!". It was just another Jerry-Bruckheimer-production with a lot of explosions, sex and Michael-Bay-videoclip-like-camera and cuts. "Pearl Harbor" is just another patriotic epos which tells anything about Nagasaki and Hiroshima. "Tora! Tora! Tora!" told the story from both points of view and was more abjective.

I think Hans Zimmer and his team wrote the music just because they got good money because I can't imagine any reason than this. Don't start hunting for this bootleg or other "Pearl Harbor"-releases. It would be better if you try to get hand on a copy of the FSM "Tora! Tora! Tora!"-album which is limited to 3000 copies so hurry on, it will be sold ou soon.

http://www.jerrygoldsmithonline.com/tora_tora_tora_review.ht m

PS: The "Tora! Tora! Tora!"-CD is a complete release of Goldsmith's brilliant score with all the music composed for the film and including every source music. Good luck!

Mikel Carmona (SIW) from Spain reply Replies: 0 || 2007-09-14 00:00:00
This is the definitive promo from Pearl Harbor. An excelent complete edition. HANS ZIMMER FOREVER!!

Manuel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-27 00:00:00
This is not the complete score. It΄s an expanded score nearly to the complete score. Why? Here are the reasons: The movie is over 3 hrs and this expanded edition has only 1 hr and 35 minutes. Also in the official release the tracks December 7th and Heart of a volunteer are not included in this expanded score. Also, there are variations in many tracks between the expanded bootlegs and this new version. And for the last, the track Courage, included in many bootlegs, is a track with sfx, and in this new version is not included, which is not posible, because this Track is the ending of the track airborne in many bootlegs or called air battle in this new version. I think, we have to wait the complete score with the recording sessions, because in many bootlegs one we can find many changes in one track. For example: Check the track Dorie The Hero, but download the version of the different bootlegs and this version and you will now what i mean. Please, i pray, remote control productions and mr. Zimmer, launch the complete score with the recording sessions.

Thanks.

Koray reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-09 00:00:00
It's a complete score. Usually track names are changed or altered in bootleg versions. I just got this so I haven't had time to listen to it all, but I'm sure those tracks are somewhere in there.

I also just realized I have more than this track listing. I'm pretty sure I have what Axel listed a couple posts below, which is 54 tracks.

The cover art here is aweful, so I'm gonna have to do something about that.

Perun reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-08 00:00:00
Hallo
Can someone just tell me if this is the real complet version?
I mean i dont see there songs like Tennessee or Launch Now( War)!!!!
Thx

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