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man, i think i haven't listened to "A Dark Knight" deep enough. so many things i picked up from listening to it recently. oh by the way, it's Dunkirk that's making me go back and listen to the old scores.One of the most beautiful choral pieces of the 21st C. Mr. Zimmer please make this original London recording available in a cd (320kbps) or a lostless version to be able to enjoy its full beauty. The version on YouTube is just muddy cruddy. And the version on the Prague cd is not a chorus of this caliber. Plz plz plz! Gratefully, Philip...why is Eric Whitacre's credit being omitted?Music is royal and grand and the show is very good. Looking forward to more seasonsGreat score! Lots of fun.
Your Majesty is addictive and could listen to this also day long.Was Theme is last year ?Now, what do you thinnk anout the score?<br><br>There are two things that made me underappreciate the score: first these full credits (upset that perhaps a good track might havenot been written by POwell himself) and the fact that Powell will score Han Solo (expectation that this might be a trial score)<br><br>But,<br><br>"Madrid Finale" is clearly 5 star track, and so many nods to classical era of film score.<br><br>There are 4 themes that i can gather:<br>Ferdinand theme <br>Flower Theme<br>"Caring" theme<br>and "bad guy" theme<br>and all of them are good ( not as powerful as HTTYD though)<br><br>But, i find some action writing to be quite generic ( Anthony B Willis is to blame i guess)<br><br>Suffice to say that this is already a 4 star score because this is as subtle as you can get from hyperactive Powell's animation scoresThis score is BRILLIANT.Just started watching this season and the music is spot on especially the Princess Margaret episode. Gregson-Williams and Balfe have create a great score to this season.more intamint and emotional than before@Bob<br><br>Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o<br><br><br><br>Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)
I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music/ it's me@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Donít even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.
I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.Maybe. I'd sure be happy for you lot ;) And I'd definitely rather see Powell attached to a project than, say, RGW, Junkie or Desplat. <br><br>That Solo movie is going to be a disaster, though.One more thing: if indeed the reason for Powell's semi-hiatus was to be with his family as much as possible, we may well see his activity increase again in coming years now that his wife has passed away and his son is close to graduating high school (I couldn't find an exact date of birth for him but I think he's 16 or 17). Him taking on a project as big and ambitious as Star Wars isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to take it easy. It's too early to say yet though.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest
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  1. Jack Sparrow (6:06)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. The Kraken (6:55)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Davy Jones (3:15)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. I've Got My Eye On You (2:25) *
    Hans Zimmer, Trevor Morris
  5. Dinner Is Served (1:30)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Mel Wesson, Nick Glennie-Smith, Bruce Fowler
  6. Tia Dalma (3:57) * +
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe
  7. Two Hornpipes (Tortuga) (1:14)
    Skip Henderson, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  8. A Family Affair (3:34) *
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. Wheel Of Fortune (6:45) *
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  10. You Look Good Jack (5:34) +
    Hans Zimmer
  11. Hello Beastie (10:15) +
    Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Tom Gire, John Sponsler
  12. He's A Pirate - TiŽsto Remix (7:02)
* Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Klaus Badelt

+ Contains themes from POTC 1 written by Blake Neely
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Agent reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-01 04:35:24
So Hybrid, did Zimmer first used the church organ here? Or it was the organ from the film? The same goes for the 3rd film.

thejok3rrules reply Replies: 27 || 2014-09-11 04:31:17
Today, I was listening to my music on my phone. As I had put it on shuffle, I heard the track ''Do you think I'm a saxon'' from The King Arthur. The track lasts 8:44 minutes. After that, I heard ''Hello Beastie'', my favorite track from POTC Dead Man's Chest. How can I say?... Zimmer has never been that lazy. I believe "Hello Beastie'' is the worst ripoff track ever. Damn it.


Hybrid Soldier2014-09-11 08:45:22
You realized just now ??


Actually it's a brilliant piece. It was either temptracked (like many KA cues in POTC 2 & 3) or Hans just wanted to achieve his idea started in KA... :)

Love both versions...

If reused material is a problem, dude, do never ever listen a POTC score again... The genesis of this saga's music is based on that fact !! xD


bro2014-09-11 09:42:43
I find it more interesting when things are "reused".

It often offers insight on the evolution of the cue, the creative process, and sometimes a clearer listen at the stems. It's a new perspective, and to an aspiring composer and fan, I really appreciate both of those versions.

If you had a musical ear you could tell that many things changed between the two recordings but whatever


Edmund Meinerts2014-09-11 11:21:28
Reused material is generally not a big problem for me, but I have to admit that this case (over 3 minutes copied and pasted practically verbatim) strikes me as particularly egregious. Yeah, a few things are changed in the orchestration, but still - the architecture of the cue is practically identical. Not one of Zimmer's better moments.


Ds2014-09-11 11:56:53
Or maybe they first used it as temptrack, and then the team (HZ, Verbinski...) thought it fitted the scene so perfectly, and that it would be pointless to try and do something different just for the sake of it. Maybe they tried, and couldn't come up with a cue fitting the scene so well. Don't forget the primary goal of film scoring is to create music to accompany the movie as well as possible.


Cap'n Jack Sparrow2014-09-11 14:53:38
Or, if I may be so bold here to interject my personal wisdom acquired from 21+ years of piracy, Mr Zimmer may have created a piece to overwrite this one we're writing about, and the afforementioned Mr Verbinski got too attached to the afforementiond temptrack, which many believe to be a King Arthur temptrack, and refused the proper use of the designated music created specially for this purpose.

Savvy?


thejok3rrules2014-09-11 17:06:19
I usually don't mind about this kind of thing. Everyone went crazy about ''Safe Now'' from Captain Phillips and ''Hope'' from X-Men DOFP being ripoffs of ''Time'', while I didn't give a damn. It's alright to write something while being inspired by something else. However, copy-paste sucks.


Mike2014-09-11 17:07:48
LOL to the Captain. That was (actually) quite funny.


Zimson2014-09-11 17:18:36
Every composer does that from time to time. Howard Shore for example recycled some cues from Hugo for the hobbit.


thejok3rrules2014-09-11 18:19:30
@thejoke3rrules This might be because I listen to a lot of film music, but 'Safe Now' completely took me out of the film when I was watching it in the theatre. In fact my overwhelming feeling when I walked out was that it was good film with a very tired-sounding Zimmer-rip off action score. This was without knowing anything about the film or who scored it (I like seeing films blind these days - nice to be surprised!).

The evolution thing I can get, but I think it's legitimate to be distracted if what you hear is clearly just a copy of something else, especially if it's recent. 'Time' to me really sums up Inception, whereas 'Safe Now' just... there's no allusion to that theme beforehand. Henry Jackman is a talented fella. Imagine what he could've done with some more creative freedom.

"Mr Verbinski got too attached to the afforementiond temptrack, which many believe to be a King Arthur temptrack, and refused the proper use of the designated music created specially for this purpose."

I've written music for some (very!) small scale things, and I can tell you from experience it seems that directors, big and small have this problem in spades. There is often nothing worse than being handed a scene with music already applied to it, because immediately your creativity suffers, immediately now you're always subconsciously comparing what you write to the temp, immediately in a way you've been cut out from the discussion.


NM2014-09-11 18:20:44
Oh shit haha, I meant to mark my name as 'NM' in the post, I have no idea how I did that! I'll repost my post and someone can delete that hopefully! Sorry, the joke3.

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@thejoke3rrules This might be because I listen to a lot of film music, but 'Safe Now' completely took me out of the film when I was watching it in the theatre. In fact my overwhelming feeling when I walked out was that it was good film with a very tired-sounding Zimmer-rip off action score. This was without knowing anything about the film or who scored it (I like seeing films blind these days - nice to be surprised!).

The evolution thing I can get, but I think it's legitimate to be distracted if what you hear is clearly just a copy of something else, especially if it's recent. 'Time' to me really sums up Inception, whereas 'Safe Now' just... there's no allusion to that theme beforehand. Henry Jackman is a talented fella. Imagine what he could've done with some more creative freedom.

"Mr Verbinski got too attached to the afforementiond temptrack, which many believe to be a King Arthur temptrack, and refused the proper use of the designated music created specially for this purpose."

I've written music for some (very!) small scale things, and I can tell you from experience it seems that directors, big and small have this problem in spades. There is often nothing worse than being handed a scene with music already applied to it, because immediately your creativity suffers, immediately now you're always subconsciously comparing what you write to the temp, immediately in a way you've been cut out from the discussion


Hybrid Soldier2014-09-11 19:14:57
Well Safe Now is not really by Jackman... lol


Mike2014-09-12 00:29:17
Yeah, it's by....everyone who contributed to that score, right? :P


Hybrid Soldier2014-09-12 08:33:05
It was rewritten 30 times by everyone... The final one is HZ.


thejok3rrules2014-09-12 22:07:07
Hybrid, maybe you shouldn't have said that... Zimmer cannot be proud of that one.


Mike2014-09-12 22:08:30
lol, Joker, I agree...


Hybrid Soldier2014-09-12 22:28:38
You think he is proud ??? LOL


He doesn't want to hear about Cap Phillips ever again... :D


thejok3rrules2014-09-12 23:58:20
I'll give him a chance this time and pretend he did it for the sake of RCP ;)


bro2014-09-13 09:49:36
The only time i have ever actually felt like a theme was recycled and took me out of the movie was 12 years a slave. I was actually very disappointed with the main title theme.


NM2014-09-13 18:16:43
Yeah I was really disappointed with the score. Given how rich, layered and powerful the film itself is, hearing another version of 'Time' just didn't emotionally connect with me (and was distracting). The best music is the bit where they're on the ship, that was inventive and frightening.


Adam2014-09-13 21:58:43
@NM,

"Boat Trip to New Orleans". A lot of people said that one was the worst cue, but I loved it as well. It gives you a sense of dread - and therefore does it's job.


Hybrid Soldier2014-09-13 22:55:40
Yeah, it was written by Benjamin Wallfsich actually ! ;)


Adam2014-09-13 23:34:49
Cool, thanks Hybrid! Any other known credits?


Hybrid Soldier2014-09-14 00:00:18
Nope... :/


Edmund Meinerts2014-09-14 02:07:17
The only even halfway interesting cue from 12YAS and it's not even by Zimmer. I'm not all that surprised. :p

And Zimson, yeah, there's a bit of Hugo influence in The Hobbit, but Shore definitely did NOT just take an entire 3-minute chunk and reorchestrate it a little. There's a difference between a small influence and the wholesale reuse of an existing piece of music.


Adam2014-09-14 03:15:13
Darn. Would I be able to find anything on that BMI site? What was the other one?


NM2014-09-14 14:37:44
ASCAP.

And, well, hah, Benjamin Wallfsich! Very very talented composer.


Hybrid Soldier2014-09-14 14:56:42
It's not from ASCAP, I just know that... :)

LCB reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-21 16:26:51
Wheel of Fortune is on Lorne's website, so why he's not listed on this track with Zimmer, Gire and Sponsler?


Hybrid Soldier2014-08-21 16:50:32
The names are totally random on Lorne's site... Doesn't mean anything. The cue is basically "Climbing Up"...


Zimson2014-08-21 21:11:32
Yeah, that track on the website isn't on the soundtrack release.

Zimson reply Replies: 4 || 2013-12-22 09:36:37
Is the waltz in "Dinner Is Served" by Zimmer?


Hybrid Soldier2013-12-22 09:37:25
It's by Nick Glennie-Smith & Bruce Fowler ! :)


Zimson2013-12-22 10:16:24
Thx ! :)


Marc2013-12-22 23:52:30
I see that Hybrid put the credit for this cue in proper order; the first part ''Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Mel Wesson'' and the second part ''Nick Glennie-Smith, Bruce Fowler''... oh, not working everytime :) lol


Hybrid Soldier2013-12-23 00:00:46
Yes it's not always the case but somehow for this one I did it right... :P

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2013-04-16 10:26:26
Does anyone else hear "Seeing is Believing" from the Polar Express (Alan Silvestri) when you hear the first part of Davy Jones? They're really similar.


Matthew2013-12-18 18:35:36
Definitely, I thought they were exactly the same at first.

MacArthur reply Replies: 0 || 2013-08-29 17:55:15
One of my favorite Zimmer Scores

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-22 19:45:04
4:15-5:18 in jack sparrow is so epic! :D

Nerd reply Replies: 0 || 2013-03-18 05:23:28
I just realized you can hear Beckett's theme in Hello Beastie.

Davey reply Replies: 7 || 2012-12-21 20:22:27
Where the source of the track Summon the kraken !! where i can find this track


Mike2012-12-21 22:47:33
You must have found it on an extended score or something, because it isn't on the album.


Davy2012-12-22 21:04:31
i found a track lenth 2:42 but i don't know it's a real trak or fan mixed track, can any one tell me the true lenth of this track ?


Mr. Fate2012-12-23 00:53:18
I, too, have often wondered where this cue originated from. The oldest version of it I can find is on the set they call the "Extended Experience". It's the first part of "Kraken Attack on the Edinburgh" (I think), with the second part being a little mix made out of The Kraken Suite.

Along with a few other cues heard on the EE, I cannot find the website these came from. The only thing I have to go on is that these tracks with unknown origins may have come from an earlier version of Magic Box Music's site, which has since been updated and redone. The tracks were already around and gone before I ever even got into the soundtrack.

This track should have a run time of around 0:48-0:55. Davy/Davey: the version you must have found also likely has the Kraken Suite mix included with it.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-23 09:47:33
That cue came from the film's website, and in terrible quality !


Mike2012-12-24 04:53:39
Which cue, Hybrid, the 2:42 one mentioned by Davey or the 0:50ish one mentioned by Mr. Fate?


DavJones2012-12-24 18:47:45
Thank you, Hybrid,Mike & Mr.Fate. The track " Summon The Kraken " the first 48' second is ok, the middle cue is a fan mix edit and the last 20' seconds " when the kraken crashed the ship " it isn't from the orjinal Kraken end track album, so what about the last cue ?


Davy 2012-12-24 21:29:54
Alright, I found in the Expanded Experience;
4tracks Magic Box Music; Tom Gire & John Sponsler

-Wheel of Fortune
-Jar of Dirt
-Dutchman Arrival
-Beckett Compass-Drunk Jack

Geoff Zanelli;

-Cannibal Island
-Bone Cages
-Tia Dalma

Lorne Balfe
-Wheel of Fortune

Trevor Morris
-The Haunted Dress to Tortuga

Davy Jones Suite 3:47 + Davy's Organ
Iam not sure of the source !!


.All other tracks were sfx &Dvd rip music

like track; 'Searching for Jack 1:25'Geoff Zanelli, i don't know the source of this track, other tracks i am not sure of them..

Summon the kraken '' Wake the Kraken the first 48' seconds and the last cue 40' seconds were mixed with the kraken album suite.



Jacob reply Replies: 0 || 2012-12-12 21:10:33
Does anyone know where I can get the full concert band score to Wheel of Fortune?

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2012-11-30 23:00:09
Two Hornpipes is random but genius. XD

Preacher reply Replies: 5 || 2012-10-19 06:56:53
Are there any individual cues on here or does this disk contain some theme suites? If so, what cues are present and which are themes?


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-19 07:30:31
The first 3 tracks are theme suites. The rest are score cues. :)


Preacher2012-10-20 02:08:15
How are the individual cues mixed, like, is #11 made from more than one cue or are some tracks just one cue?


Areozz2012-10-20 02:46:47
You could just download it from literally anywhere and find out yourself, or you could have someone painstakingly pick apart the score for you. What? Are you afraid that you'll hear something you didn't ever want to hear?

Tracks 1-3 are all suites. Track 4 is two cues mixed to one track but they play consecutively anyway in the film. Track 5 is a combination of two cues (possibly out of order but still within the same part of the film). Track 6 is a mix of a couple cues that all play in the same scene anyway. Track 7 is one cue; track 8 is one cue; track 9 is one cue; track 10 is one cue. Track 11 is really long; it is at least two cues, but possibly more. They all play together as they are heard here anyway.

Does that help?


Hybrid Soldier2012-10-20 09:13:26
Yeah,

I've Got My Eyes On You is 2 cues.
Dinner Is Served is 2 cues.
Tia Dalma is 2 cues.
Twho Hornpipes, A Family Affair, Wheel Of Fortune & You Look Good Jack are 1 cue.
Hello Beastie is 3 cues.


Preacher2012-10-20 20:15:51
Thank you, Hybrid Soldier.

Michael reply Replies: 2 || 2012-10-12 00:48:29
Has the full score been released anywhere? Because I absolutely love the variant on the Davy Jones theme, the one when we first see him playing the organ.


-2012-10-12 08:18:38
complete tracklist anyone? :-D


Michael2012-10-12 21:20:16
Oh great...Sorry, Hybrid!

cheesy reply Replies: 6 || 2011-10-25 04:57:24
Does anyone know who specifically composed the unreleased cue in "Summon the Kraken"? (that 45-second bit that starts when Davy Jones has Bootstrap Bill in a choke-hold and says "you will watch this"?) I know it's from a website somewhere, but I'm just really starting to take a liking to it, and it's part of my listener's OCD to be curious as to who specifically composed it. Is it by Hans himself, or one of the Magic Box composers? Anyone have anymore insight?


Blu2011-11-17 07:28:37
It is called "Waking the Kraken", and it is written (arranged?) by the Magic Music Box guys. Source: ASCAP.


Areozz2011-11-17 14:54:42
Is there any chance that you or someone else could point where this cue originated from? The only existence I can find of it is on the Extended Experience which contains several other cues that have unknown origins to me. The Extended Experience had been out long before I got into this music, and it seems that some of this unknown material has since disappeared from where it originated.

"Summon the Kraken" or "Waking the Kraken" is one of these. Another one is the short cue that comes before Davy Jones plays his organ that is called "James Norrington". The other unreleased cues that were on the Extended Experience were also by Magic Box Music, and they are still available ("Beckett Compass" and "Flying Dutchman Arrival").


ynreob2011-11-17 15:41:36
as far as I know, "Waking the Kraken" came from the official PotC-Homepage and "James Norrington" is a DVD-RIP (possibly from a DVD Menu?)


Areozz2011-11-17 15:49:54
I have the fanciest version of the DVD release and I've not heard James Norrington anywhere on there. The DVD menu is where a 30 second sample of "Liar's Dice" came from though.

So that homepage is probably long gone by now, right? Oh, I remembered another cue with unknown origins. I don't know what it goes by but it plays when they dig up Davy Jones' chest. It follows the second usage, slightly different version, of "Waking the Kraken".


ynreob2011-11-17 21:17:39
yeah that homepage is gone since 2007 i suppose :-)

the other cue, when they're finding the chest is quite clean on the rear chanels of the dvd (as is "James norrington" as far as i remember) and i think the expanded experience reuses the website-"waking the kraken" cue here.


Areozz2011-11-17 23:48:18
Yes, it does, even though the orchestration is noticeably different and it has a different ending. You're right--"Waking the Kraken" does get used twice. I'm not up so much for using DVD audio if there is a better source out there. I was just curious to know if the original sources were still in existence and I could snag those cues myself.

I'm glad I was around for the times that Trevor Morris and Geoff Zanelli posted some unreleased stuff because their sites have since been revised and deleted, respectively.

Papapalpatine77 reply Replies: 2 || 2011-11-16 05:15:12
Areozz & Cheesy - I'll start the topic going, as I'm pretty interested in what you 2 have to say. I saw your disussion I've at Sherlock 2.


Papapalpatine772011-11-16 05:15:59
*over* at Sherlock 2


Areozz2011-11-17 00:12:41
Well, thank you. So, I don't know what cheesy was planning to complain about, but I just wanted to state a realization I had not so very long ago in terms of what we got in this OST. I've probably got way more to say than this; this is just what I am thinking at the moment.

The Jack Sparrow suite is still one of the greatest pieces I've heard since I've gotten into listening to this kind of music (slight exaggeration, but whatever). However, once upon a time, I was disappointed to see how little of it actually gets used. And I also remember when the score was new, how everyone was talking about that awesome new theme for DMC. It turns out a good part of this suite originates from one of Jack's themes from the first movie--sure it does get built on, but nonetheless there are the origins.

And now I can take it a step further: bits and pieces of that suite show up literally everywhere! Sure you have to take a look at all the unreleased music we've gotten as well as some that hasn't even surfaced, but it's all there. Originally, I'd only been listening for stuff that sounded exactly how it does in the suite, but now I see Zimmer and his crew somehow have a way to manipulate an arrangement, motif, theme, or what have you so it sounds almost unrecognizable compared to where it originated from.

Here's a brief list of key tracks that contain fragments of the Jack Sparrow suite: the second half of "Walk the Plank," and "One Last Shot," from PotC1; that Cannibal Island track with the action music from Geoff Zanelli and Wheel of Fortune from PotC2; and from the PotC4 demos: 1m02, 1m03, 1m07, and 2m14.

And there is way more--I started an in-depth analysis of one of the scores but as I've found it's a pretty huge undertaking and I'm not sure I'm ever going to have time to fully delve into the structure of this series' scores and completely understand them. Oh, and it also doesn't help much that I don't have the actual complete scores to work from--just what extra material we've gotten and then some guy's DVD rips.

HZ-Fan reply Replies: 2 || 2011-09-15 18:51:37
01-The Bell Tolls
02-Jack Sparrow
03-Why is the Run Always Gone
04-The Black Spot
05-The Search for Jack
06-Pelegostos' Island
07-Elizabeth's Escape
08-The Bone Cages
09-Escaping Cannibal Isle
10-Tia Dalma
11-The Flying Dutchman
12-Haunted Dress
13-Tortuga - 'Two Horn Pipes'
14-The Organ of Davy Jones
15-A family Affair
16-Liar's Dice
17-Summon The Kraken
18-Davy Jones
19-Isla Cruces
20-Wheel of Fortune
21-The Kraken
22-Abandom Ship
23-Hello Beastie
24-End Credits


Agnt007dman2011-09-15 23:23:26
Ok, again with this shit. This is an expanded score where the extra material came from the DVD. I don't understand why people do this. It's not a legit expanded score


Mr. Fate2011-09-15 23:48:07
^^^THIS^^^

Stingray reply Replies: 2 || 2011-06-22 01:28:48
The POTC scores were one of the few major Remote Control Productions scores I had yet to listen to until recently (and I now realize how much I've been missing out), and now let me just say in terms of this album I'm hopelessly addicted to "The Kraken"...7 minutes of raw, classic Hans Zimmer-style epicness.


zach2011-07-19 15:36:58
is he forreal?


Phil2011-09-12 07:28:20
@stingray

"The Kraken" is truely a masterpiece!!!
Also love it!

Phil reply Replies: 8 || 2011-08-29 18:56:15
01. Main Titles - Wedding Crashers
02. Wedding Crashers Part 2
03. For Whom the Bell Tolls - Jack & the Dead
04. Jack the Monkey
05. '...That Way, Direction..'
06. Jack In His Cabin
07. Drunk Jack - Bootstraps Tale - The Black Spot
08. Elizabeth Behind Bars - The Search for Jack
09. The Pearl on the Beach - Will Is Captured & Dinner Is Served
10. 'Save, Me'
11. Cannibal Ceremony - The Bone Cages - Escape from Cannibal Island
12. Up The River - Tia Dalma - An Undead Monkey for a Jar of Dirt
13. A Wrecked Ship
14. The Dutchman Appears - Jones and Sparrow Negotiate & Betrayal
15. Ghostly Appearence
16. Norrington Looking for Revenge - Brawl in the Pub (SFX)
17. Norrington Looking for Revenge - Brawl in the Pub (Alternate)
18. A Game of Liar's Dice - Stealing the Key and Escaping
19. The Turner's Reunite
20. The Kraken Hammer
21. The Kraken Attacks the Edinburgh Trader
22. No Survivors - Set Sail for Isla Cruces
23. Curiosity
24. The Search for Dead Man's Chest - Will Appears
25. Three-way Swordfight - Wheel of Fortune - Fight over the Chest
26. The Flying Dutchman Is Back
27. The Dutchman Chases the Pearl - The Sea Monster Returns (SFX)
28. Chained to the Pearl - 'Hello, Beastie' - 'So, Tell Me, What's Become of My Ship'
29. End Titles


Phil2011-08-29 18:57:12
total length: 95min.


Dakota2011-08-29 19:32:02
I among many other people have this Phil. It's loaded with SFX. The person who ripped it from the DVD did a real shitty job. This is not a legit expanded score


Phil2011-08-29 20:07:30
ohh, pity...

but thx for the information


Dakota2011-08-29 20:49:47
Sorry to disappoint. There is one available on a shrine in your deepest fantasies. Google is your friend. Use it.


Mr. Fate2011-08-29 23:11:15
Ah, yes the 29-track bootleg score that's been around for ages. Whoever made it used DVD audio from one single rear channel and over-amplified it so it sounds downright awful. This one really sucks, but I suppose its one of the ones that got me started. The Extended Experience, although less complete, is far superior.


Papapalpatine772011-08-30 00:22:01
Mr. Fate, I would have to agree with you. If you know where to look, another 2-Disc expanded has just surfaced


Phil2011-08-30 09:25:27
Would it also be possible if there would never release an expanded score?


Papapalpatine772011-08-30 09:59:28
Phil, here was one released yesterday. No that great, but legitimate enough to substitute it for the OST

Poisonheadcrab reply Replies: 4 || 2010-11-24 00:00:00
Here is an expanded score of Dead Man's Chest I made, using cues from various sources.

01. Jack's Theme Bare Bones Demo (4:05)
02. Wedding Crash (1:39)
03. I've Got My Eye On You (2:25)
04. This Way Direction (1:39)
05. Left Our Marks (2:32)
06. Times Up (5:34)
07. I Have Faith In You (1:58)
08. Elizabeth's Escape (0:35)
09. The Pelegostos (2:59)
10. Bone Cages (2:16)
11. Polvolt (1:10)
12. Tia Dalma (4:16)
13. The Flying Dutchman (3:20)
14. The Haunted Dress To Tortuga (1:17)
15. Two Hornpipes (1:14)
16. Davy Jones Suite (3:45)
17. Mr. Turner (3:34)
18. Game Of Deception (0:45)
19. Summoning The Kraken (0:48)
20. The Kraken Suite (6:55)
21. Very Much Alike (1:57)
22. Fight For The Key (3:44)
23. Wheel of Fortune (6:46)
24. A Jar Of Dirt (2:19)
25. Hello Beastie (10:16)
26. What's Become Of My Ship (6:29)
total time is about 84 minutes


Anonymous2011-05-02 01:36:24
How did you do this and using what sources?


uga2011-07-28 04:22:54
is this sfx free?


Poisonheadcrab2011-08-16 23:36:15
@-uga

the tracks Wedding Crash, Very Much Alike, & Fight For The Key contain sfx, but very little.


Anonymous2011-08-29 23:36:06
@-Anonymous

sources:
youtube
DVD
Geoff Zanelli's website
Magic Box Music website
Trevor Morrises website

Alyn reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 09:07:25
Hey hey hey, take a gdaenr at what' you've done

Nevaeh reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 05:53:14
A million thanks for poistng this information.

Krystallynn reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 05:36:00
Walking in the presence of giants here. Cool tihiknng all around!

Matei reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 03:56:17
This artcile went ahead and made my day.

Dora reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-24 12:54:40
Furrealz? That's mravleously good to know.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-05-20 23:09:04
At what point in "Hello Beastie" does the Balfe cue end and the Sponsler/Gire cue begin?

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-13 00:00:00
Anyone got any info on the 2CD expanded score of this, without SFX? Its out there.

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-03 00:00:00
Here's an AMAZING cover of "The kraken", by Guitarist Marco Tafelli & drummer Gavin Harrison (Porcupine Tree)

h t t p ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_D5yEcD7aQ

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-10 00:00:00
That one is tough, cause it borrows a lot from POTC 1.

It does a bit to Blake Neely as only one of his themes from the first film made it to the soundtrack (in One Last Shot).

For Klaus's themes :

"I've Got My Eyes On You" => The opening, from 0:06 to 0:18.

"Tia Dalma" => From 0:00 to 0:24 is another KB theme.

"A Family Affair" => From 1:23 to 1:48.

"Wheel Of Fortune" => One theme between 2:15 & 2:36, another one from 2:44 to 2:55.

For Blake Neely :

"Tia Dalma" => his theme is between 1:33 & 1:48, but all what's after is a rearrangement of a Blake cue from POTC 1.

"You Look Good Jack" => His themes pop up everywhere, from 0:12 to 0:40, from 1:51 to 2:12 & from 2:53 to 3:00... :D

"Hello Beastie" => His "Dead Barbossa" theme from POTC 1 comes back here from 8:07 to 8:40 !

Voilŗ !

Hope this helps to get it in this big mess !! :D

Dimitris reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-13 00:00:00
One of the Best!!!!!!!!

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