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Hello everyone! After watching the film I noticed that about half of music that used in film disappeared at sessions or has different arrangement. Why it's not released? What's the reason for this?As always with unused pieces of music. There are always be more interesting. Like with Dark Phoenix.I think what Lorne wrote for the last 30 min of the movie is way better than what ended in the movie... Lorne tried to elevate what was going on on screen, but it was probably too "bold" for the taste of production... They wanted to keep as "kow key" as possible but to me it made the ending of the film fall super flat...
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<br>In the end there isn't that much Lorne in the film (most of the "Moon" reel is Lorne though, that big 4 notes motif appearing during the moon landing and then takeoff). Ironically most of the droning you're all complaining about is not that much Lorne... lol
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<br>I really hope Lorne will put out as much music as possible, even all the unused parts, which are the more interesting ones !Taking in the movie now after having seen it. The cinematography is brilliant, and there are some interesting concepts that really will have you thinking long after walking out of the theater. Still, I couldnít help but feel like the film dragged throughout. Coupled with the voiceover the movie has a very ĎTerence Malick-yí, ďThin Red LineĒ feel throughout.<br><br>Iím definitely not familiar with Max Richter so I canít comment on what he might have written, but Balfeís broad-chord style is pretty recognizable throughout. There are also some interesting electronic pieces used throughout, possibly might be Balfe but hard to say as of now. The rest of the music is pretty contemplative, ranging from slow/emotional string pieces to more ambient droning.Well, I heard only Balfe's "Prayer" and Richter's "To the stars"... All I can say is we need to wait for the full release, hear both composers and only then talk about who better coped with this. (and watch the movie of course)<br>I don't think Balfe is a bad composer. He does pretty good as an additional composer but not as a leading (mostly). The only soundtrack that I consider the best to date in his solo career is "M:I-Fallout" and "Assassin's Creed III". (imo)<br>Who knows what will be this time. But for now I like Richter's track more.
I'm just waiting for Gemini Man, that (i hope) would be funI love that cue.So I created a page for it, move away from Ghost In The Shell !! :PI wonder if this track is the one causing consternation: Nils Frahm: 'Says' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwwjy4slI8<br><br>It sounds a bit like what Richter and Balfe could produce, but it is much more artistic than Balfe and much more synth-based than Richter. Frahm is credited for additional music.Not writing negative comments about Balfe for the purpose of writing negative comments - ie. trolling - but for the fact that Balfe does not seem to take film composition seriously. Goldsmith had a similar pace in the 1990s that equates to contemporary Balfe, but he managed to produce fantastic scores like Air Force One in a few weeks (yes, with some help from McNeeely). Balfe simply does not seem to have those skills so he resorts to cliches and drony nonsense. I await to be proven wrong. That Balfe track is not half-bad so I do maintain a general sense of expectation for this.
Not any more lame than the Balfe cueLorne says it will be released and insists itís not a GITS situation.That's been standard in certain cases, though considerably less nowadays with how complicated these situations have become.<br><br>Having heard both tracks posted, both give me little on their own. I'm sure they work better in the context of the film, and we might see better tracks unveiled eventually.He deserve better.Hans and Lorne like twins. Lorne has a very good personality. I still don't understand why some people are still writing bad comments to Lorne?Probably... lol
So is this how itís gonna be? Official release for Richter and leaks by Balfe :(Lorne posted a track from Ad Astra on his YouTube channelThank you. And i suppose "Need You Busting My Balls - End Credits" title would correspond to ASCAP "Need You Busting My Balls" + "RUSH END CREDITS", while "Just Married" to "RUSH MAIN ON END"?Thatís literally the best part of the score though. But itís typical Richter (Miss Sloane, Black Mirror: Nosedive).Hunt Drunken Weirdness is barely a cue actually, it's just a patch up of sound designs by Mel...<br><br>Italian Party is a name I made up for a cue that's not used in the movie ! :)
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Bayhem reply Replies: 10 || 2018-05-03 17:37:16
Hmmm, is this a mistake or Badelt was really involved here?


Scorefan2018-05-04 00:21:16
Ottman was the obvious choice for Singer. But in that time Ottman was developing Urban Legens 2: Final Cut as a director/music composer/editor. So for a recomendation Singer turned the music to Kamen. Singer was dissatisfied with the music, so Badelt came to added the electronics/synths tones to the music. There's a promo with Badelt's music.


ThePhantasm 2018-05-04 00:31:38
i would love to hear Klaus compose music for a super hero movie. It'd be so amazing


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-04 00:47:21
I mean there's Catwoman, and TMNT is almost a superhero movie.


Scorefan2018-05-04 01:44:49
The same thing was for Constantine. Brian Tyler composed the music. Francis Lawrence, the director of the movie, was not happy with the work of Tyler, it was too orchestral, so Badelt came and composed new music with electronics/synths tones. The result: a hybrid score. The film itself feature music from both composers and the official release both composers are credited. Also there are promos for each composer.


Bayhem2018-05-04 06:42:44
Scorefan,

Thanks for the reply. I'm surprised at myself for never knowing about Badelt's involvement with X-Men. He's not credited anywhere. And clearly he should be. At least as an "Additional Composer" on IMDB.

And truth be told, I always thought it was weird to have Kamen as the composer of this movie. I think of him as a more gritty, urban-type of composer (Lethal Weapon, Hudson Hawk, Last Action Hero, etc...) and I always wondered why Singer went to him instead of, say, James N. Howard or Jerry Goldsmith. Personally, I would LOVE to see an X-Men movie with a James N. Howard score. *drooling*


Bayhem2018-05-04 06:57:33
Scorefan, yes you're right about the Constantine situation. Speaking for myself - and as much as I love the movie - I think the hybrid score that ended up in the movie did not deliver entirely. I honestly can't even remember a standout track......I really have to listen to the whole thing again.

By the way, Badelt has a history of coming in and re-scoring or adding elements to a score. After Constantine, he was brought in by Michael Mann to do additional work on Miami Vice. John Murphy was the original composer, but as it often happens on Mann movies things change constantly. Both Badelt and Murphy are credited, but I remember reading comments from Murphy regarding this project, and he was clearly not happy with the whole situation. Kinda like Harry Gregson-Williams and Mann's Blackhat....


rockhound2018-05-04 08:48:26
badelt has a credit in the booklet of the X-Men soundtrack album for synth programming or something like that.


Michael Fields2018-05-04 12:25:22
It's right. Badelt has a credit "additional electronic percussion"


Michael Fields2018-05-04 12:47:00
Here's the full booket credits, if you're interested.

Music Composed And Conducted By
MICHAEL KAMEN

Music Produced By
MICHAEL KAMEN
STEPHEN McLAUGHLIN
CHRISTOPHER BROOKS

Orchestrations By
ROBERT ELHAI
BRAD WARNAAR
MICHAEL KAMEN

Sampling And Programming By
JAMES SEYMOUR BRETT
MICHAEL PRICE

Additional Electronic Percussion By
KLAUS BADELT

Music Contracted By
THE MUSIC TEAM
GINA ZIMMITTI
DEBBIE DATE - PYLE

Music Preparations By
JOEL FRANKLIN
ERIC STONEROOK MUSIC

Music Recorded And Mixed By
STEPHEN McLAUGHLIN

Music Editor
DARYL KELL

Additional Recording By
JOEL IWATAKI

Music Performed By
THE LA ALLSTAR ORCHESTRA

Cellists
STEVE ERDODY
DAVID SHAMBAN
DENNIS KARMAZYN

Concert Master
BRUCE DUKOV

Score Recorded At
THE NEWMAN STAGE, TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX

Recordist
JOHN RODD

Engineer
BILL TALBOTT

Stage Crew
TOM STEEL
DAMON TEDESCO

Score Mixed At
THE CHAPEL STUDIO

Assistant Engineers
LEE HANNING
MARK KELLEN
DAN ADAMS

Music Supervisors For Twentieth Century Fox
ROBERT KRAFT
MICHAEL KNOBLOCH

Business Affairs
TRACY GALLAS OPGAHL

Original Score Publishing By
FOX FILM MUSIC CORP.

Chairman, Universal Classics Group
CHRIS ROBERTS

Soundtrack Coordinators
LIAM TONER
MIRANDA SMITH
RANDY DRY

Art Director
BEN ALDIS

And So On!


Scorefan2018-05-05 00:47:53
Bayhem, that0s right. John Murphy was the official composer for Miami Vice but, it's a Michal Mann movie, so Badelt came to add music for that movie.
Well It's not a surprise Michael Mann is always like that in music. Let's remember The Last oh the Mohicans with Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman, Public Enemies with Elliot Goldenthal taking cues of his music from Heat and, well, the known history with Harry Gregson-Williams in Blackhat.

Sam Whitacre reply Replies: 0 || 2019-05-31 03:30:19
I mean, seriously? Klaus Badelt's the music programmer for Michael Kamen's score of X-Men? How the hell does that make sense? That's... really impressive.

Mephariel reply Replies: 2 || 2018-05-04 07:30:24
How awesome would it be if Zimmer ask John Powell to score something for Dark Phoenix just as a nod to X3?


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-04 14:13:42
Sadly I think Dark Phoenix will do all it can to distance itself from X3 and everyone involved in it, and even though Powell is the last person who should be blamed for that film's poor reception, he's tainted by association.


Mephariel2018-05-04 16:28:36
Yeah, too bad. Not only the people, I think based on what I read, they want to distance themselves from the story as well. So I doubt they want the same style of scoring.

bruceV reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-13 00:00:00
Yes! You are absolutely right! ''The Statue Of Liberty'' along with all the rest tracks was amazing!.... - By the way, YioHaj, you probably mean ''Michael Kamen and his music was great''..., is that right?... ; )

YioHaj reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-11 00:00:00
the statue of liberty is the best track ih heard since James Horner Braveheart ost. Michael Kane was a great man as is his music

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