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I'm with Edmund in that I'd love for Hans to win more Oscars, but not this score. I feel like even Blade Runner 2049 is more deserving of an award than this. Sure, it works great in the film, but that shouldn't be reason enough for an Oscar. I feel like Desplat's nominated score is more deserving than this one. <br><br>"But this one has a unique sound and recording!"<br><br>Okay... a lot of scores have that. A lot of Zimmer's work has that. Doesn't make them all masterpieces.<br><br>"But we have to spite those evil reviewers who hate this score!"<br><br>Why do you let their opinion get in the way of your enjoyment? If you love it enough, the critics' opinions should only make you enjoy it more because you see something in it they don't. <br><br>I agree with George in that Hans needs to go back to a melodic sound. I don't think whether this score wins or not will change Hans' mind on that, but I do want his next Oscar winner to mean something other than, "Oh cool! I won this award because I made weird sounds!" (Which by the way, involves things like programming and a lot of other technical adjustments that have nothing to do with Hans' composing ability)."The thing that I'm proudest about Dunkirk is you can't separate it from the film."<br>- Hans Zimmer, GQI understand, but it does not make sense.<br>You're arguing that the score for a movie released in January this year was produced before of the score of a movie that went to theaters in July. If Balfe started working on "12 strong" a year before the movie release, the same can be said of Dunkirk. It is easy to infer that the Dunkirk's score has been working since the middle of 2016! Or even before, because of the tours that Zimmer has done.<br>The music/sound design, even being simple, was not made and recorded between January and May of last year.Olive  that is when it was announced !!! Not when he did itBalfe's hiring came out in May, when Dunkirk's production was already at the end. No contest.<br><br><br>filmmusicreporter.  com/ <br> 2017/05/24/lorne-balfe-to-score-horse-soldiers/
Hans finished the bulk of the score before he went on tour, you could find an interview where he himself says so. <br>Ben worked solely on Variation 15. <br>Scroll down on this page and you'll find the full cuesheet with the credits. <br>Edmund - how do you think Zimmer wrote Dunkirk when he was on a world tour !!!Congratulations to Ben, Lorne also .Edmund - the release dates do not matter . Check out Balfe’s Facebook page and you will see he was recording 12 Strong early last year .I've only heard the suite Hybrid made. The only similarity I was aware of is the siren-like sound. <br><br>People don't realize how difficult scoring Dunkirk was. Just because you love Interstellar (I do too - it's my favorite HZ score) but that doesn't mean Dunkirk doesn't deserve to win. <br>Edmund, in all honesty what are the similarities between 12 Strong and Dunkirk? I know both scores and fail to see how they connect.
Doesn't deserve an Oscar. Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer but if he didn't win for Interstellar, he shouldn't win for this. <br><br>I can seriously say that I object this score winning based on that principle. This winning over Interstellar just isn't right.Well, the credits say that Supermarine or the oil are pure Zimmer, and also the 3 first track I think. So Balfe helped him to develop some ideas during his tour but the majority of the score is Hans' work.<br>And it does deserve an Oscar. I never heard a score like that.. If you have a problem with the score I think it comes from the script. A classical melodical music wouldn t work for this film i think.Source? I find that hard to believe considering the release dates. Even if it is true, Balfe might have been concurrently working on Dunkirk and brought over some of the ideas. I find it spectacularly improbably that he and Hans just HAPPENED to come up with the same ideas at the same time.Edmund - gets you facts right please . 12 Strong was written before DunkirkHere's an interesting opinion: I want Hans to win this one so that he DOESN'T continue making music like this. Sure its functional, but if he could reinvent the melodic score again and get back to writing memorable melodies I'd be pretty happy. He won for Lion King and then essentially abandoned that tone of music which transitioned into the Crimson Tide/The Rock sound... so maybe, just maybe, if he wins this year he'll completely reinvent his sound again and give us something both melodically memorable but also be a total game changer in terms of modern scores.
I hope it doesn't win if for no other reason than so we don't have to go through 5 years of Dunkirk temp tracks (although if 12 Strong is anything to go by, too late).@Ahmad i only need "The Oil (Film Version)" :D Then i'll be happy :D*That was a thumbs up but it didn't work :D<br><br>^This how I feel lol.I hope Dunkirk wins just to make the so-called "reviewers" and those who say it isn't music, more frustrated and annoyed.@badbu &#128077;<br><br>I honestly don't know how a complete score is going to work. They weren't kidding when they said the music is done like one long track. <br><br>What I understood from a Q&A with Nolan is that they didn't do it the usual way which means there are cues that are cut together / exist as segments. This was done in a different way where to create such cues, they used automation graphs to bring the layers in and out. Very complex. <br><br>One of the reasons why I think this deserves to win so many awards.
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Assassins (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 70'30
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  1. Main Title (2:05)
    Danielle Wiener, Michael Kamen, Mark Mancina
  2. Swamp (1:29)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  3. Window (2:07)
    Mark Mancina
  4. Eyes (0:47)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  5. Cemetary (4:33)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  6. Bain In Cop Car (1:07)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  7. Rath Dog Bark (3:38)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  8. Soccer Game (0:45)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  9. Bus Slam (2:15)
    Mark Mancina
  10. Dutch Arrive - Rath Follows (1:40)
    Mark Mancina
  11. Rath Phones (0:51)
    Mark Mancina, Jeff Rona
  12. Hotel (2:48)
    Mark Mancina, Jeff Rona
  13. Bain Kills Dutch (3:02)
    Mark Mancina, Jeff Rona
  14. Rath & Electra Flee (1:58)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  15. Bain Arrives (0:33)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  16. Rath Returns To Apartment (0:41)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  17. Apartment Shootout (3:36)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  18. Electra Aims At Rath (1:54)
    Mark Mancina
  19. Bain Fired - Rath In Motel (1:47)
    Mark Mancina
  20. Electra Thanks (1:34)
    Mark Mancina
  21. Monorail (1:46)
    Mark Mancina, Jeff Rona
  22. Rath In Monorail (0:15)
    Mark Mancina, Jeff Rona
  23. Monorail Leap (0:20)
    Mark Mancina, Jeff Rona
  24. Briefcase Blow Up (0:31)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  25. Strings (0:41)
    Mark Mancina
  26. Ikira (0:53)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  27. Say Please (1:30)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  28. Rath Confesses - Bain Apricot (2:54)
    Danielle Wiener, Michael Kamen, Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  29. South America Cemetary (2:13)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  30. Rath Arrives At Bank (4:28)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  31. Bain Waits In Window (3:44)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  32. Good Luck (6:13)
    Mark Mancina
  33. Nicolai Arrives (3:06)
    Mark Mancina
  34. Rath Wins (1:07)
    Mark Mancina
  35. End Credits (1:54)
    Mark Mancina, Jeff Rona
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Gunner reply Replies: 0 || 2017-09-22 08:43:50
i love this movie and soundtracks !

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 5 || 2016-08-18 19:28:27
Real cue titles as well as composers for this !


Edmund Meinerts2016-08-19 14:46:20
Michael Kamen??!!


rockhound2016-08-19 17:52:33
kamens score was rejected, because the music was "too heavy". so he was replaced with a more modern action score by mancina.


Hybrid Soldier2016-08-19 19:37:34
Yeah and the Day of the Dead song he wrote (performed by Danielle Wiener) was kept in the film, hence the credit... :)


Edmund Meinerts2016-08-19 19:44:35
Ah, OK, that makes sense. I never knew Kamen was attached to this!


Hybrid Soldier2016-08-19 19:50:31
He really wrote a full score, which Donner rejected. But Donner & Kamen were big friends so Donner wanted Kamen to have a second shot, Kamen declinded cause he had no time, he was writing Die Hard 3... So they got Mark, who had to do the whole thing in 13 days, when the big Media Ventures armada ! :)

Soulkeeper reply Replies: 0 || 2012-01-18 21:02:36
Can somebody tell me where i can get this Score? Thanks :-)

herdim reply Replies: 0 || 2005-05-28 00:00:00
Assassins est avec Training day les oeuvres les plus serieuse du compositeur

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