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I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...
Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.
* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's comments
The funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.I wouldnít be surprised if he wrote another long sketchbook for it...I honestly have no idea... But I can't believe back in June when he left he hadn't done a bunch of the score already...The thing is with Jablonsky scores composers rarely get cuesheet credits, so you can't really draw conclusions out of it. Here's a small part of the cuesheet :<br><br>QUINTESSA PT 1<br>QUINTESSA PT 2<br>QUINTESSA PT 3 OPTIMUS REDEMPTION<br>KNIGHTED<br>WE HAVE TO GO ZERO GRAVITY<br><br>OPENING BATTLE<br>MERLIN<br>MERLIN GETS THE STAFF - BATTLE WON<br>TROUBLED TIMES<br>CADE DRIVING - AMULET<br>WE HUNT - DECEPTICONS HUNT<br>KEEP A SECRET - VIV ARRIVES CASTLE FOLGEN<br>WITWICCANS<br>ROUNDTABLE ORGAN SOURCE<br>COGMAN CHOIR<br>STAFF<br>BETTER GET CRACKING<br>PLANETARY VAMPIRISM<br>TOO OLD<br>SUBMARINE<br>TWO MOONS<br>MERLIN'S TOMB<br>SPACE STATION<br>CLAIM THE STAFF<br>SHIP RISE<br>YOUR VOICE<br>SOLDIERS TAKE POSITION - BURTON DIES<br>FALL AND GRAB<br>ENDING
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Toys single - The Closing Of The Year
Label: Geffen Records
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Treguard reply Replies: 1 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
Just posted on the Hans Zimmer forum, where you've put the choir part as:-

"Up on the knees of a soldier
made of parts of wood, with wind in your hair"

It's definitely

"Up on the knees of a sergeant-major
Ride through the woods with the wind in your hair"

the lipsyncing wasn't matched very well on the youtube video but if you slow down the song/listen a few times to that specific part then the above is correct :)


Parradoxx2015-05-09 09:45:50
Late comer to the chat, but I believe it's actually
"Hop on the knees of the sergeant, make him
Ride to the wood with the wind in your hair"

I may be wrong. Hear what makes you happy, for it is undeniably brilliant!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-03 14:25:49
Anyone hear the Davy Jones theme in parts of this score?

takehiro reply Replies: 2 || 2011-01-16 00:00:00
Anyone interested in a longer expanded score? One may exist that I know of.


bgcat572013-06-18 21:37:08
I would love this. I would like to set up a performance for choir and synths (hopefully adding handbells, harp and percussion.)


Warren G2013-10-03 02:26:58
Yes! Yes! Yes! Did I mention YES?

Garry Sclater reply Replies: 1 || 2009-02-08 00:00:00
I cannot get the Robin williams Toys Sountrack any where. It has been deleted in almost every chain of stores I know of and I do not want to by a used of cheap copy online. do you have any suggestions


Tony Bihn2012-11-18 16:14:34
I purchased mine through amazon.com and it was a brand new one if I clicked under used copies but again mine was shipped from the warehouse still sealed!! :)

rocky reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-29 00:00:00
it sounds like Seal singing on part of the tune. is it?

Treguard reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-25 00:00:00
Weird. Had another listen to thisand it sounds more like "Ride through the woods....." and not "Riding" if you pitch it down in some audio software.

Pridelander@HZforum/Miya reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-12 00:00:00
Thanks Jerusha & Treguard for your feedbacks on lyrics! I'll listen again to this amazing song later :)

Treguard reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
btw forgot to add, the one with parts of wood only has 18 notes whereas there are 20 in the song. Sorry re below, that's with regards to the version in the end credits. The next line is correct and number of notes/syllables matches up. :)

xactitude reply Replies: 0 || 2009-01-02 00:00:00
brilliant music for a brilliant film. soundtracks like this don't have an expiration date. They're in my mp3 player year round. the music evokes great sentimentality, as well as the voices. I'm really curious who wrote the lyrics. was it inspired by levinson?

Joe Strike reply Replies: 0 || 2008-12-31 00:00:00
'Toys' is one of my all-time favorite soundtracks, and for obvious reasons it spends a lot of time in my CD player around this time of year.

I have no idea why, but the version of 'Closing of the Year' at the end of the album always brings tears to my eyes, especially Seal's solo - the way his voice soars and the arrangement backs him up. For the longest time though I've wondered about his lyrics - I'm only able to make out a few words here & there - and none of the other lyrics sites includes his verse.

Thank you for including them (or at least your best guess) here; they're every bit as beautiful as the rest of the song... and best wishes and love to all of us at the closing of this year.

Jerusha reply Replies: 0 || 2008-12-08 00:00:00
An update on lyrics...
So I rented the movie "Toys" and watched it with subtitles. This is what the subtitles say. The only part not subtitled, of course, was the kids' chorus; also I starred the couple parts where the subtitles didn't seem to match what I was hearing - no "s" on misfortune, and no use of the word "so" at all in the second verse. Here's a direct copy of the subtitles:

If I cannot bring you comfort,
then at least I bring you hope
For nothing is more precious than the time we have, and so
We all must learn from small misfortunes*
Count the blessings that are real
Let the bells ring out for Christmas
At the closing of the year

Now all the winter bells are ringing
Hear them echo through the snow
And the children's voices singing
On the streets so far below
So* this is a time to be together
And the truth is somewhere here
We give our love for people
At the closing of the year

We'll walk in a sun
With all of the faith
And all of the patience
All of the way
With all of us right, and all of us saying
No one an island
We'll fly in the arms of time
Walk in the waves, never fall, don't fall
At the closing of the year

Although the subtitles skipped this, between the soundtrack and video for the movie, it seems like the kids are singing this:
Up on the knees of a soldier made of parts of wood with the wind in your hair,
Silver bells on a stolen reindeer as we race to the castle over there

Next, I checked out Youtube's posted videos of Sarah Brightman/Placido Domingo singing this, as well as someone's street recording of the Disneyland Carolers, both live.
Most of the lyrics match up, except for these:

In both cases, it sounds as though the kids' chorus part is singing this:
Up on the knees of a sergeant major, ride through the woods with the wind in your hair,
Sleigh bells ring on a stolen reindeer as we race to the castle over there

The carolers don't do Seal's solo, but Placido Domingo does and it sounds like this:
We will walk in the sand
With all of the pain
And all of the patience
All of the way
With all of us right
And all of us saying
No one an island (poor guy mispronounces it iss-land)
We'll fly in the arms of time
Walking the way's never far, not far (at least, I hear a clear "r" pronounced in there.)

Best of luck picking which to sing along with! :)

Jerusha reply Replies: 0 || 2008-12-02 00:00:00
It's great to finally know what the kids are singing right after the intro! Thanks so much for the lyrics. It helped clarify a few points on Seal's solo, too; although I think he says something slightly different (and it makes more sense to me this way) right at the end:
instead of "Walk in the waves, never fall, don't fall"
it sounds to me like he's singing "Walking, the way's never far, not far"
Anyway, thanks for all the good lyrics.

Pridelander reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-16 00:00:00
Currently it's difficult to buy this single, but ZTT Records' MySpace has full song of "Closing Of The Year."
http://www.myspace.com/zttrecords

And here's the lyrics. It was mostly completed thanks to the forum members :)
http://www.hans-zimmer.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=5296

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THE CLOSING OF THE YEAR
(Written by Trevor Horn and Hans Zimmer)

If I cannot bring you comfort
then at least I bring you hope
For nothing is more precious
than the time we have and so

We all must learn from small misfortunes
count the blessings that are real
Let the bells ring out for Christmas
at the closing of the year
Let the bells ring out for Christmas
at the closing of the year

(Children chorus)
Up on the knees of a soldier
made of parts of wood, with wind in your hair
Silver bells on a stolen reindeer
as we race to the castle over there

If I cannot bring you comfort
then at least I bring you hope

Now all the winter bells are ringing
hear them echo through the snow
And the children's voices singing
on the streets so far below

This is a time to be together
and the truth is somewhere here
Within our love for people
at the closing of the year

(Seal's solo)
We'll walk innocent
with all of the pain
and all of the patience
and all of the way
and all of us right
and all of us say
Love one another
We'll fly in the arms of time
walk in the waves, never fall
Don't fall
(at the closing of the year)
at the closing of the year

If I cannot bring you comfort
then at least I bring you hope

Then at least I bring you hope

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-04 00:00:00
Why is it so difficult to find a site where I cn simply hear an excerpt from "The Closing of the Year" from Toys and then BUY IT! Geesh!

I'll never be back to THIS site again!

Locklin S.R. reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-08 00:00:00
After i heard you fromthe soundack 'Waking Ned Devine' i had to find out more about Zimmer. when I listened to 'The Closing Of The Year' I couldnt stop listening to it. It became my girlfriends favorite pieces of music. If at all possible, the next time you get to do a serious movie with a god moral lesson to learnm from maybe you can do something theat closely relates to that song, or redo the song. What ever you do ,don't stop making music. It is what moves the world.

Julie Bliss-Tyau reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-18 00:00:00
I love this song and wish it was available in Sheet Music for Choir with instruments and/or piano. Any plans on publishing this in sheet music form? I've looked and haven't been able to find it.

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