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@Edmund <br>I still stand by my opinion that Holkenborg scoring Avatar 2 could be pretty interesting. Pairing him up with a director who is known to be strict with his musical choices and continuing on from James Horner’s classic might produce something really good. And seeing his gradual progress as a composer with Mortal Engines and Alita have personally given me some hope (2 years ago I would have said hell no).<br><br>And I’m not surprised by the choice for T6. Not looking forward to this project at all but we did get a cool score from Balfe for the last one so maybe there is some hope for the music at least.I think Terminator is a decent match for JXL's talents (listen to "The March" from Divergent), but this feels like further evidence that James Cameron is grooming him for Avatar 2, which I really hope ends up not being the case.Yes, Tom will be scoring the new Terminator movieChill out Bayhem, if you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap.<br>But seeing people from his team ivolved and considering the fast and furious situation, I can’t help but wondering if there’s some truth to that rumor.<br>Now for a guy talking about haters, saying that Lorne scores 36million projects and B movies (forgetting mission impossible) I think you’re pushing it a bit.<br>Anyway no hate I don’t care who wrote it I’m just curious about the behind the scenes stuff.You're reaching there a bit Bayhem, I see no one in this thread trying to undermine Steve's work or the score. Hell the first poster was just asking if Lorne worked on it and if so, to what extent. And the "rumor comment" is a logical extension of Lorne's whole regular team being credited on the score, therefore it is possible that he did additional work on it.
Again a "rumor" comment that's trying to undermine Steve's work. And in this case, an entire score. Lorne fans, please stop trying to constantly undermine other composers in favor of your guy. It's childish and extremely disrespectful. You've done it multiple times on these boards. What's next? You gonna claim that Lorne secretly scored the entire Transformers franchise? And Lord of the Rings. And Harry Potter. <br><br>Seriously, it's getting really old, really fast. <br><br>Not to mention the fact that Steve, as a composer, is much, much more experienced and established than Lorne. He's got nothing to prove. Steve takes his time when it comes to scoring. He's choosing carefully. He's got more than enough time to focus on his projects. While Lorne's name is attached to 30 million different projects, some of them cheap B-movies like Hurricane Heist. And you think he's scoring them all by himself? The irony of it all is that if anyone is using ghostwriters most of the time, it's Lorne. Not Steve. And I'm saying that as a Lorne fan as well. I'm not just a Jablonsky fan. I appreciate Lorne's work as well. But I'm not undermining other composers in favor of him.Bay has Lorne scoring his films now cause they established a relationship on 13 Hours, and Bay didn't even want Lorne for that; he wanted Hans but he didn't want to go through the exhausting process of another Bay blockbuster so he brought in Lorne instead.<br>And even then, Hans still worked together with Lorne very closely on the project (Hybrid said he was there for all the meetings, helped with synth programming, etc)Of cause Balfe worked on it .That is why Bay now uses Balfeyou can absolutely hear the 13 hours temp track in Battlefield and We Have to GoNot to mention that Steve and Lorne structure their power anthems differently.<br>To me this score sounds like 100% Steve
I wouldn't say so, Lorne stacks his ostinatos and rhythms on top of each other (see Blackwood, Last Man on the Moon) and shotguns piano writing all over his scores in addition to using it for almost any kind of emotional scene (see Manny, Duck Shoot, Brothers Theme from Hurricane Heist)Well, if all we're using to distinguish Lorne is ostinatos and piano writing, then in that case, he's all over this film!The interesting thing is, that if Lorne did work on it, his work is indistinguishable from Steve's cause I hear none of his ostinatos or extensive piano writing.@Hybrid, a while ago I saw a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap.<br>But looking at the credits I see some people from his team have been involved( his assistant Queenie Li as music coordinator, and Max Aruj and Steffen Thum did arrangements..)<br>Do you know why and to which extent he was involved or why his team worked on the score?This little gem of a score is one of my favourites of Lorne's smaller projects.<br>Got a great main theme and varying instrumentations of it throughout, plus he's using a real orchestra which is always good. (Check out The Heist, very upbeat jazzy piece)
Balfe - for anything than bad TV? How much did you smoke tonight? The Mission score must have been a studio decision but Balfe should not be allowed anywhere near a (any) franchise - the dude is a headcase and a total copycat. Tell me one piece that Balfe did that is original?Balfe - for anything than bad TV? How much did you smoke tonight? The Mission score must have been a studio decision but Balfe should not be allowed anywhere near a (any) franchise - the dude is a headcase and a total copycat. Tell me one piece that Balfe did that is original?Looking forward to what Ben's going to do with that movie.Hellboy coming by Sony Classical at 4/5/19Kung Fu Fighting (Celebration Time) on KFP3 also has a HZ credit despite again the booklet not crediting him for anything on it.
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The Promise
Label: Superb Records
Length: 73'44
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
Fans rating:     rate at 1 out of 5 rate at 2 out of 5 rate at 3 out of 5 rate at 4 out of 5 rate at 5 out of 5   2/5 (7109 votes)
  1. Freedom Of The Wa (2:40)
  2. Wuji - Main Theme (3:45)
  3. Love Theme (2:13)
  4. Kunlun, The Slave (1:48)
  5. Qingcheng, The Princess (1:22)
  6. Guangming, The General (1:07)
  7. Wuhuan, The Duke (1:53)
  8. Princess Kite (5:03)
  9. The Promise (5:22)
  10. Snow Country (4:32)
  11. The Robe (8:04)
  12. Save The King (4:00)
  13. Guilang, The Assassin (2:24)
  14. Saving a Princess (3:17)
  15. Feather Fight (2:04)
  16. Waterfall (2:44)
  17. Stampede (4:45)
  18. Come Back (4:28)
  19. Birdcage (1:53)
  20. Wuhuan's Plan (10:20)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-08 18:05:48
Recording Sessions
Tracklist:

01 - 1m1 The Tree
02 - 1m10 New Master
03 - 1m2 Qingcheng Runs
04 - 1m4 The Deal
05 - 1m7 Fanfare
06 - 1m8 Stampede
07 - 1m9 Battle
08 - 2m12 forest Prophecy
09 - 2m14 Bitter Tears
10 - 2m15 Assassinating the Gene
11 - 2m16 Kunlun's Ride
12 - 2m17-18 Saving a Princess
13 - 2m19-20 Waterfall
14 - 2m21 Birdcage
15 - 3m23 kunlun to the Rescue
16 - 3m25 Princess Kite
17 - 3m26 Feather Fight
18 - 3m27 Superball
19 - 3m28 Already Fallen
20 - 3m29 Making Beds
21 - 4m31 Princess Leaves
22 - 4m32 Snow Country
23 - 4m33 Cherry Blossom
24 - 4m34 Let Me Take You There
25 - 5m37 Playful Love
26 - 5m38-39 Children Without Pa
27 - 5m41 Kunlun and Qingcheng
28 - 5m44 General Sees Qingcheng
29 - 5m45 Where is the Armor
30 - 5m46 Room of Screens
31 - 6m49 Dancing Columns
32 - 6m50 Slave Speech
33 - 6m52 Just a Flesh Wound
34 - 6m53 Wuhuan's story
35 - 7m55 The End


...2013-03-08 19:26:12
So now it has leaked...


tim2013-03-08 20:12:20
leaked? it has been on klaus website for months... ^^


JJ2013-03-09 07:59:56
Better call it selections from the recording sessions. I can tell that compared to the OST alone, this is missing a good number of cues.

Macejko reply Replies: 5 || 2013-01-27 22:45:54
Great score indeed. Does anyone know of an another Badelt's soundtrack, which has similar qualities?


HGW42013-01-27 23:00:38
The Time Machine. My favorite!


Edmund Meinerts2013-01-27 23:09:51
The Time Machine seconded. It has a lot of temp track love in it but it's a pretty fantastic score nonetheless. Other than that if you can find Solomon Kane, it's along similar grand, sweeping lines, though the themes aren't quite as lyrical.


Prott2013-01-28 01:01:00
Or K-19. That's also a wonderful and emotional score.


Edmund Meinerts2013-01-28 13:26:19
K-19's theme is a great one. The score itself is a little repetitive but worth seeking out. Also, if you can get your hands on the promo to TMNT then do at all costs! Otherwise he's got a bunch of French scores available for free on his website, most of them aren't that great, rom-com type stuff (but hell, they're legally free so who's to complain?). One of them, his thriller score A Bout Portant (Point Blank), is pretty solid with one great action cue ("Subway Foot Chase"). His theme from Poseidon is pretty good but the rest of the score is dull; same with Ultraviolet, as long as you don't mind the temp-track love for Spider-Man! Equilibrium has some fun moments too; it's probably the closest Badelt ever got to writing a classic mid-90s MV action score. Ned Kelly is more laid back and lyrical but quite pretty.

There, that ought to give you enough to chew on for a while. ;)


Macejko2013-01-28 23:00:28
Thanks guys, I'll definitely give those a shot :)

Phi B reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-30 18:08:26
amazing score...

many thank's to Klaus Badelt

me reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-21 00:00:00
This is one of Badelt's best scores, if not his best. His use of cultural instruments and influences is seamlessly integrated into the score w/ excellent precision. It does not match fellow MediaVentures comrade Hans Zimmer's "The Last Samurai", but is nonetheless a fantastic score. "The Promise" fits very nicely beside "The Time Machine" and "K-19" in my collection of Badelt scores. Keep it up Klaus!

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-21 00:00:00
Second favorite score ever. Last Samurai still no.1 for me. Princess Kite is just perfect...starts with solo violin and ends with solo violin. I too wish there was an expanded release.

aaa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-09 00:00:00
aaaaa

Slither reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-04 00:00:00
The promise is without a dought Badelts best score to date, he was really inspired during his stay in China that he really came out of the experience with a score which tops even Zimmers latest offerings. I cant wait to see a complete release of the promise score, because i have seen the film and there are a lot of great cues missing from the album, one in which features in the trailer

O´Maly reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Sorry for my comment, you are right Victor!!!

Hans is also one of the best!!!

It´s only sometimes I get mad when I see that the Hans Zimmer Fans vote intent bad for Klaus Badelt CDs!!!

Look at the Promise Votes and you´ll now what i mean!!! Such a wonderful Score can´t be so badley rated with only 67% !!!

Victor reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-04 00:00:00
By the way, of course it is more powerful and "real" and orchestral soundtrack, but it does depend of production, not just the composer!! It is far more expensive to pay for the whole group of musicians plus the composer than just the composer!!! Has anybody thought of how real could have been a Gladiator or Pearl Harbor soundtracks with a full orchestra?

Victor reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-04 00:00:00
I do not agree with the opinions that say Klaus is better than Hans, whose Last Samurai or King Arthur soundtracks are as good as The Promise one. Hans has created some of the best epic and action film music ever.Why are you so unfair with this genius who was also Klaus' and so many other's inspiration? I do think they both are among the best in the actual scene and probaly are creating the most beautiful soundtracks of the moment. It is a stupid debate.

King Barry reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-30 00:00:00
wow amazing!!!!

O´Maly reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-28 00:00:00
I allways was an Hans Zimmer Fan, but since The Promise I know, Klaus Badelt is so much better!!!
He is the one who can make a score lyric wihtout an stupid Synthesizer!!!
Now I´m a huge Klaus Badelt Fan he is so talented and gorgeous!!! You´ll see, in the near future he will be famous as Zimmer ,John Williams or Jerry Goldsmith!!!
Just wait for Rescue Dawn and Turtles, they sure will be superb like every Klaus Badelt Score!!!

forget Zimmer, Klaus Badelt blows you away!!!

Loren reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-22 00:00:00
Freedom of the Wa is just impossible to describe... and the entire score has made me look twice...no, three times... at Klaus Badelt.

Danny chang reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-21 00:00:00
best score ever, forget Hans, Klaus rules!

music dreamer reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-20 00:00:00
thanks! Hans.thanks Klaus! because when you gives
us these music's miracles, you make me love life

Ruth reply Replies: 0 || 2006-10-08 00:00:00
Es fabuloso este score.
Es uno de los mejores que ha hecho Badelt junto a The Time machine.
El track que más me gusta es The Robe, fantástico, tiene muchas dinámicas y una orquestación excelente. La verdad es que no hay desperdicio alguno en esta BSO, es una genialidad que marca que Klaus Badelt es un compositor excelente!!!

John reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-07 00:00:00
Great!!!!! Best score ever heard !!!!

Movieknowa reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
send me this album to home.. i want it but i got no money plz

Mr. Manpower reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-12 00:00:00
The best music I´ve ever heard !!!!

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-12 00:00:00
The trailer music is from the soundtrack. Except the action music in the middle, which is from the movie, but it is not on the album.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-25 00:00:00
This is one of his best so far along with Equilibrium and Time Machine

belit reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
music trailer please????

ANA reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
MUSIC OF TRAILER PLEASE????

pat reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-09 00:00:00
klaus badelt The Promise ,un grande moment de music

jens reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-29 00:00:00
"--Vielen Danke"-- für den Link und alles Gute...

The Best Hans Zimmer und Klaus Badelt

jens reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
wer kann sagen wo man die CD Klaus Badelt The Promise kaufen kann

mauro reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
With reference to Shinji post: It is clear in some parts of the score that the Last Samurai by Zimmer was a source of inspiration to this one. It has nothing wrong with the melodies and of course being treated in an oriental style does not lead for simplicity. As I said earlier the orchestral sound is a bit narrow and not wide enough and this maybe the reason why you have to listen to this score for a few times before it gets you fully blown away. I would have preferred the orchestral Sound by Zimmer like in the last samurai. There the orchestra is truly magnificient and the electronics in that score if there are any, they are subtle and compliments gracefully to the orchestra. Since this is the review part of the Promise, back to subject and after listened it few more times it is 4/5 :)

ABC reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
@Jens

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bi-49-de-15-promise%2Bsoundtrack-70-15wi.html

Shinji reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-26 00:00:00
When i first heard this score, i wasn't too impressed. I was looking for that simple yet grand and efective theme that these guys threw in our faces from time to time (like in POTC). But there's nothing like that to be found here. To tell the truth this music grew on me with every listen and meanwhile it's become my absolute number one Badelt score. The themes are far from simple and it took me a few days to get into them and really learn to appreciate them. Badelt's music for this movie sounds so huge, so powerful.. Some want to compare it to The Last Samurai, but even though i love that score, i just have to admit that The Promise sounds much more 'real', kind of less synthetic. A real orchestra did a fantastic job, and it's the first time i can't actually hear any 'out of place' electronics - if there are any at all. And of course Badelt used different instruments than Zimmer, since China still sounds a lot more different than Japan. I can't but recommend this epic score, it's a huge step forward for Badelt: 10/10.

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