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Hallo,<br><br>Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht šlter geworden. Genial.<br><br>GruŖ  <br><br>Not bad score.<br><br>But I prefer the other oneIsnít that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?<br><br>For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80ís beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.
Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.
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Kingdom Of Heaven
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  1. Burning The Past (2:48)
  2. Crusaders (1:41)
  3. Swordplay (2:01)
  4. A New World (4:21)
  5. To Jerusalem (1:38)
  6. Sibylla (1:49)
  7. Ibelin (2:05)
  8. Rise A Knight (2:43)
  9. The King (5:45)
  10. The Battle Of Kerak (5:36)
  11. Terms (4:29)
  12. Better Man (3:29)
  13. Coronation (3:03)
  14. An Understanding (4:13)
  15. Wall Breached (3:43)
  16. The Pilgrim Road (4:07)
  17. Saladin (4:44)
  18. Path To Heaven (1:38)
  19. Light Of Life (Ibelin Reprise) (2:10)
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Kent ÷berg reply Replies: 5 || 2017-04-25 23:04:51
Zimmer did some additional music on this?


Olive2017-07-31 07:41:51
Zimmer did some additional music on this?


Michael Poleschuck2017-07-31 08:11:35
Zimmer was the original composer on this movie. And Gregson-Williams was the original composer of Madagascar. And then you know, what happened next.


Hybrid Soldier2017-07-31 18:41:58
HZ wrote a few early ideas before leaving the project. One was used by Harry, the very first cue in the film (the guitar opening) is actually HZ...


Oscarilbo2017-07-31 19:21:58
### EDITED ###

You mean this one Hybrid ???

WOW... always loved that part and wondered why wasn't on the Cd. Know it makes more sense.


Hybrid Soldier2017-07-31 19:39:48
This indeed.

Lord Stark reply Replies: 1 || 2016-05-23 15:02:04
In which cues of this release (but also of the recording sessions) was Junkie XL involved?


Hybrid Soldier2016-05-23 22:40:39
Who knows ! He was an intern !

Anonymous reply Replies: 5 || 2014-11-29 20:14:41
Cheap move on Harry's part lifting part of COD4's score (the coup) straight out of here...


Mike2014-11-29 20:21:09
Yeah, not one of his better moments. lol. It worked surprisingly well in COD despite being written for this, though.


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-29 20:23:41
It's in Exodus too... lol


Anonymous2014-11-29 20:28:28
Oh really? What track? :P


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-29 20:29:03
Briefly there's a part of it in Tsunami... lol


Anonymous2014-11-29 20:29:27
Nvm, I see Tsunami has it. It must be a personal favorite of his.

Duderguymannameperson reply Replies: 1 || 2014-11-07 22:11:41
Harry Gregson Williams just posted on Facebook that he wrote some music for Exodus: Gods and Kings. Last I checked Alberto Iglesias was the titled composer. Hybrid, would you know how much Harry contributed to the score?


Hybrid Soldier2014-11-07 22:17:42
Seriously go search the Exodus page on that very site lol...


Yeah he wrote additional music, about 30 min of the score...

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-14 21:49:49
"Battle of Kerak" sounds like a shady mixture of Prince Caspian and Call of Duty 4. I also hear Gladiator and Black Hawk Down in "Terms". "The King" also sounds identical to "The Battle" from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe at one point. Interesting.


Mike2013-05-14 21:54:01
Actually, "The Coup" theme from Modern Warfare was lifted directly from "Better Man"!


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-14 22:25:12
Kingdom of Heaven predates a lot of the scores you mentioned there...


Mike2013-05-14 23:20:58
Indeed, Edmund, and it seems like it's been the template for some of his work since.

Drake reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
@Prott
No problem!
and yes I happen to do know where a lot of the unused cues were meant to be:

"Path to Heaven"- not quite sure where it was supposed to play. I think it could be when Tiberias leaves (while him and Balian are examining the dead soldiers from Guy's army)

The end of "An Understanding" plays when Balian is speaking to his soldiers before the wall is breached.

The "Better Man" choral part plays when Saladin's troops are launching fireballs at the city and Balian is walking down a passage seeing all the frightened families.

The end of "Saladin" was meant to play when Balian surrenders the city to Saladin- it was replaced by "Family Feud" (from Blade II)

The Choral part at the Beginning of "Wall Breached" was meant to play in that scene at night when Balian is getting ready for the next day of war and Sybilla is cutting her hair. (the percussion part that comes afterwards was edited in there, but meant to play when Saladin's messenger is arriving, before Guy cuts his throat)-was replaced by "Burning the Past" in the film

but you're right- a lot of this music got cut, witch is a shame because it's really good :(

Drake reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
@Prott
"Coronation" was replaced by Vide Cor Muem
"Rise a Knight" was replaced by the 13th warrior

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
Drake: thanks :)
Do you know anything about other unused material - "Wall Breached", "Path to Heaven", end of "Saladin", beginning (choir part) of "Better Man" and "An Understanding" (except the very beginning)?
It`s like at least a half of the official album is missing (and that`s just OST and not the recording sessions).

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-08 00:00:00
Yeah, I think it really is (at least it`s my favourite Harry`s score, together with Chronicles of Narnia, Sinbad and Prince of Persia).

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-07 00:00:00
i'm no expert but from what i can hear, kingdom of heaven is harry's great original score, which he has been using themes from ever since for narnia prince of persia and others

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-07 00:00:00
Has anyone noticed that Harry re-used the exactly same electric cello part from "Better Man" (2:12 - 2:32) in Modern Warfare ("The Coup" 0:33 - 0:53)?
Nevertheless Kingdom of Heaven is a brilliant score! Does anyone know which part of the score was left out from the final cut of the movie (and replaced by Vide Cor Meum + 13th Warrior theme)? Thanks

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-15 00:00:00
@Klaas
I dont believe so.

Klaas reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-15 00:00:00
Is there any difference between the Sony Classical and the Columbia (USA) version?

Cows N' Roses reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-29 00:00:00
Has anyone noticed the Hans Zimmer track in Angels & Demons that was almost exactly like Crusaders? I couldn't believe it when I heard it. By the way, it's not on the album, you need to watch the movie to hear it.

EL FARKH SAID reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-18 00:00:00
KINGDOM OF HEAVEAN IHAVE NEVER SEEN A fantastic film like it

EL FARKH SAID reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-18 00:00:00
KINGDOM OF HEAVEAN IHAVE NEVER SEEN A fantastic a film like it

Ruthlessgravity reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-11 00:00:00
"France, 1184"

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-10 00:00:00
can u tell me the name of the very first song ( only a guitar I think) played in Kingdom of heaven? Thank u

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-10 00:00:00
Chanterai por mon corage by Guiot de Dijon

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-07 00:00:00
thankssssssssssss

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-21 00:00:00
Andrew : "Chanterai pour mon courage" by the ensemble convivencia ,##########

kenn stewart reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-31 00:00:00
Kingdom of heaven is one of the best soundtracks ever recorded. Absolutely stunning from beginning to end. And like the movie on release ddid not get the praise it deserves. The Directors cut is now a masterpiece and HGW's score is integral to this.

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-30 00:00:00
Does anyone know what is the name of the music played when Godfrey remembers about the mother of Balian?in the director's cut edition.

Jack reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-23 00:00:00
Does ANYONE know where the choral piece that plays RIGHT after the Squire rams the pick through the prisoner's skull can be found? I have the two disc, the retail AND the 3 disc recording session and I CANNOT find it. If ANYONE knows, please, that is my FAVORITE piece of score from the film, I have to find it.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-18 00:00:00
boring, bad harry. where ist hans?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-17 00:00:00
German HGWonline: www.harry-gregson-williams.de

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-05 00:00:00
Yay Great thing.
I luv it!

btw: visit www.harry-gregson-williams.de
It will rock your arse!!!!

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-20 00:00:00
Any ideas about the name of solo vocal performers? You know like the one in 'The King' and 'Terms'...?

Uroö reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-13 00:00:00
Very good. I like it very much. It`s like the Gladiator sopundtrack. I like story in the movie and the music is a pefect fitt to it. Very good!

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