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New YouTube playlist: <br>Hans Zimmer - Film Scores. <br>youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nVB9Q77N9h-iKbNe7ZWrQHjiy_ vla_glc<br><br>I don't understand how they chose that cover:<br>Time (arr. guitar) [Music Lab Collective]<br>youtube.com/watch?v=YGCFdR--u5M<br><br>Strength and honor!<br><br>One of this score's best and most underrated moments, especially in the context of the film, is the introduction of the Kraken's theme in "Row to Tia Dalma". The tense buildup while Gibbs describes the creature's horrors, then the brief pause as he names it, followed by the theme in the absolute lowest registers of the orchestra, quiet, but so so so menacing and also just SUPER FUCKING COOL.<br><br>It gives me goosebumps every time, in a *dialogue scene*. That is incredibly good musical storytelling.Edmund: And posted their one-sentence review of it on the Hans Zimmer fan site.Anything missed from the official release?oh damn really? huh that would be cool. even with the ultimate edition there’s still deleted scenes and I wish they were put on the Blu ray.<br><br>it plays during the scene after the knightmare when Clark is looking through the polaroids that say judge jury executioner on them. i don’t remember if that’s an extended scene or not as I’ve only seen the theatrical cut once in theaters. one and done lol
"Chicken Run really makes you FEEL like you're in a concentration camp." - IGNI guess it comes from a deleted scene where Jesse Eisenberg gets playful with his dinner. Rumor has it it's gonna be included in the Snyder Cut.I love the notion of Barack Obama and IGN teaming up to review 20 year old film scores.Smoothly done soundtrack. IGN - 10/10what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????
I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !
I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happy
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Conductor - Orchestrator
Mark MancinaTrevor RabinPaul LinfordNick Glennie-Smith
ComposerComposerScore ProducerConductor
Con Air
Label: Hollywood Records
Length: 44'57
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  1. Con Air Theme (1:31)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  2. Trisha (1:04)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  3. Carson City (3:04)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  4. Lear Crash (4:44)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  5. Lerner Landing (3:28)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  6. Romantic Chaos (1:22)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  7. The Takeover (3:52)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  8. The Discharge (1:09)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  9. Jailbirds (0:59)
    Trevor Rabin
  10. Cons Check Out Lerner (1:55)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  11. Poe Saves Cops (2:25)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  12. The Fight (0:22)
    Trevor Rabin
  13. Battle In The Boneyard (7:41)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  14. Poe Meets Larkin (1:14)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  15. Bedlam Larkin (0:49)
    Trevor Rabin
  16. Fire Truck Chase (4:22)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  17. Overture (4:18)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
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Bayhem reply Replies: 3 || 2018-04-02 21:55:15
I think it's safe to say that this is the MV/RC score that our "favorite" Filmtracks guy hates the most. I don't care about critics in general (I read some stuff simply for entertainment), I just find it amusing how much he hates this one.

Yes, it's very loud and harsh and frenetic. But calling it a "wretched piece of work" is a bit over-the-top. At least in my opinion. What's your opinion on this one, folks?


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-02 22:10:28
I used to not like it all that much and it's still a bit of a cheap-sounding mess, but like most of the late-90s MV scores, it has aged well, with memorable themes and a sense of fun that elevates it above many a joyless, droning RC score of today.


mpolonest123 2018-04-02 22:24:08
I used to hate this score (in context) just based on the villain’s theme, which is about as cliched an evil motif as you can get. That being said, this score really has aged well and may be the dumbest, if not one of the most fun MV scores out there. It also helps that both Mark Mancina and Trevor Rabin are extremely talented.


Bayhem2018-04-02 23:54:59
Agreed. Compared to a lot of more recent MV/RC scores, this one holds up extremely well. It works better. Having said that, I think this would've been a way better score if Rabin was by himself. Think about it, his style, his rock n roll approach is just perfect for a movie like Con Air. Mancina - even though I like him a lot - seems to be out of place, as far as this project is concerned. The only reason Rabin wasn't by himself is that he was at the start of his career and Mancina at that point was everywhere (Bad Boys, Speed, Twister, Fair Game...).

The two have very different styles actually, and maybe that's why this score doesn't sit well with some people. I'm sure it would've been received way better if it was composed by Rabin and HGW. I mean, just look at Armageddon!

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-09 23:45:11
What a fun score... Just watched the movie again, reminded me of the good old times. Huge and fun action flicks with this old, classic RC sound... I need more movies like Face/Off, The Rock and this one.

Ele reply Replies: 2 || 2009-10-13 00:00:00
Who made which cue? Anyone knows?


El Baradei2012-12-28 17:14:05
Michel Legrand co-composed Track 12, The Fight. It seemed to be really necessary because it lasts 22 seconds.


Mike2012-12-29 09:21:02
^ lol ^

asdf reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-30 00:00:00
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nick reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-16 00:00:00
very good

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aRRR reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-05 00:00:00
Probably a very underrated score, i like it!

airmax reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-01 00:00:00
very good score

Alonso reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-09 00:00:00
very good!

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