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what about dunkirk : ) what do you think of it?Have any cue sheets or slates surfaced for this score?...that response only made you look more suspicious, as it was so pre-programmed feeling.@AndrewP *Robocop voice* obey the law or get erased creepSo if I say I love the score and itís amazing then Iím a bot !!!!!!!!! What a rediculois theory
Hi, I'm new to this site and a big fan of Zimmer. Blade Runner is definitely one of his best works (and don't forget Wallfisch). Anyways, I'm definitely anticipating Denis Villeneuve's upcoming Dune film and I wonder if he'll go to Zimmer to do the project. That would be awesome if that happened.This place is not exactly a democracy, if something is not of my liking I get rid of it. Plain & simple.^^<br><br>For the sake of fairness, I think the admins should delete both the guys spamming the thread with whining, as well as the Balfe-bots spamming the thread with positivity while simultaneously denouncing "haters." (This does not apply to most people in the thread, but you know who I mean.)I created a suite of what I believe are the best cues on the album, and attempted to make some interesting variations with the cues themselves in terms of transitions and such. Tracks included are Fallout, The Exchange, Escape Through Paris, Stairs and Rooftops, Free Fall, and Mission: Accomplished. Feel free to check it out, it helps make the whole score feel more melodic in my opinion!<br><br>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCioYxbgNsqFhZ15onqcTlFA/vid eosBalfe haters will hate this !!!<br><br>But itís amazing . <br><br>Itís emotional then EPIC!<br><br>
It can only be purchased at the Kynren site in Bishop Auckland, UK, during the show season. Google Kynren and hope to see you there soon! :) Hope this helps. Kind RegardsAgree with this 100%People are on here shitting on Giacchino and Powell saying Rouge One has a better score or people saying Solo has a better score and Iím over here like yep still listening to the Star Wars Original Trilogy And Prequel Trilogy scores over here. But I think they both gave Williams Justice and did good.@HunterTech - because Cruise and the studio *really* wanted him back after Rogue Nation's success, despite the producers' initial plan for the franchise being to have each entry done by a different director. Hence, McQuarrie's condition that he'll be back as long as he does a completely different film.<br><br>And context is important because once you realise the *film itself* is heavily influenced by Nolan with a big dash of Fury Road-esque building action momentum, then the decision to have Balfe on board and the score to sound all Zimmer/RCP as opposed to more symphonic a-la Kraemer/Giacchino makes sense.So.......why not get a new director then? I admire his efforts in trying to attempt something different for every sequel, but he's eventually gonna get tired if he keeps coming back. Plus, there's been evidence that surfaced to suggest that there was a very specific reason in Kraemer not returning, which don't necessarily contradict what McQ is saying here.<br><br>Despite all this, I'm very excited for Fallout as a whole. I've been able to enjoy films with disappointing scores before (*cough*BR2049*cough*).
Mephariel, fair enough. I see your point as well.<br><br>mpolonest123, I see your point.<br><br>But looking back at the MI2 score now, compared to some recent MV/RC stuff......it's just heads and tails above them. Again, that's just my opinion. There is a clear theme here, there is an actual structure. Not just some noisy sound effects thrown in the blender.@HunterTech - McQ said at every opportunity that a condition of his coming back would be making MI Fallout as if a different director was doing it. Which is why he got a new DoP, new composer, new costume designer etcBecause that opinion is clearly wrong when Dunkirk came out in 2017.I can't agree with Genius: Picasso. I like the score, but it doesn't have enough direction. Just a lot of soundscaping. It is like the score is just there. <br><br>Balfe has this same problem with a lot of his scores.<br><br>I am so tire of people claiming Balfe has potential. It is like a basketball fan constantly claiming that Player X is two years away from being two years away. Every year people say Balfe is going to do something great. I am still waiting for this. That said, I haven't listened to MI:6 yet.
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Conductor - Orchestrator
Mark MancinaTrevor RabinPaul LinfordNick Glennie-Smith
ComposerComposerScore ProducerConductor
Con Air
Label: Hollywood Records
Length: 44'57
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  1. Con Air Theme (1:31)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  2. Trisha (1:04)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  3. Carson City (3:04)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  4. Lear Crash (4:44)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  5. Lerner Landing (3:28)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  6. Romantic Chaos (1:22)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  7. The Takeover (3:52)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  8. The Discharge (1:09)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  9. Jailbirds (0:59)
    Trevor Rabin
  10. Cons Check Out Lerner (1:55)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  11. Poe Saves Cops (2:25)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  12. The Fight (0:22)
    Trevor Rabin
  13. Battle In The Boneyard (7:41)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  14. Poe Meets Larkin (1:14)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  15. Bedlam Larkin (0:49)
    Trevor Rabin
  16. Fire Truck Chase (4:22)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  17. Overture (4:18)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
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Bayhem reply Replies: 3 || 2018-04-02 21:55:15
I think it's safe to say that this is the MV/RC score that our "favorite" Filmtracks guy hates the most. I don't care about critics in general (I read some stuff simply for entertainment), I just find it amusing how much he hates this one.

Yes, it's very loud and harsh and frenetic. But calling it a "wretched piece of work" is a bit over-the-top. At least in my opinion. What's your opinion on this one, folks?


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-02 22:10:28
I used to not like it all that much and it's still a bit of a cheap-sounding mess, but like most of the late-90s MV scores, it has aged well, with memorable themes and a sense of fun that elevates it above many a joyless, droning RC score of today.


mpolonest123 2018-04-02 22:24:08
I used to hate this score (in context) just based on the villainís theme, which is about as cliched an evil motif as you can get. That being said, this score really has aged well and may be the dumbest, if not one of the most fun MV scores out there. It also helps that both Mark Mancina and Trevor Rabin are extremely talented.


Bayhem2018-04-02 23:54:59
Agreed. Compared to a lot of more recent MV/RC scores, this one holds up extremely well. It works better. Having said that, I think this would've been a way better score if Rabin was by himself. Think about it, his style, his rock n roll approach is just perfect for a movie like Con Air. Mancina - even though I like him a lot - seems to be out of place, as far as this project is concerned. The only reason Rabin wasn't by himself is that he was at the start of his career and Mancina at that point was everywhere (Bad Boys, Speed, Twister, Fair Game...).

The two have very different styles actually, and maybe that's why this score doesn't sit well with some people. I'm sure it would've been received way better if it was composed by Rabin and HGW. I mean, just look at Armageddon!

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-09 23:45:11
What a fun score... Just watched the movie again, reminded me of the good old times. Huge and fun action flicks with this old, classic RC sound... I need more movies like Face/Off, The Rock and this one.

Ele reply Replies: 2 || 2009-10-13 00:00:00
Who made which cue? Anyone knows?


El Baradei2012-12-28 17:14:05
Michel Legrand co-composed Track 12, The Fight. It seemed to be really necessary because it lasts 22 seconds.


Mike2012-12-29 09:21:02
^ lol ^

asdf reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-30 00:00:00
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nick reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-16 00:00:00
very good

aRRR reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-05 00:00:00
Probably a very underrated score, i like it!

airmax reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-01 00:00:00
very good score

Alonso reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-09 00:00:00
very good!

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