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Richter is a conceptual artist, I love his Leftovers score, but come one, scoring to picture ?<br><br>He writes pieces that are used in scenes, not the other way around...<br><br>Richter scoring a moon buggy chase ? Hell no... lol you could see from day one it was gonna be replaced...^ Yeah the edit floating around matches Felix’s almost to a T. Only major difference is <br><br>“Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale”<br><br>Which is broken up into four separate cues. Realistically you could edit it anyway you want if you prefer the smaller cues. Personally, I like the long suite-like format of this release. Kinda like the album release for “Event Horizon” lol.I hope they at least release Richter's score.My Edit:<br><br>01. Rise Of An Empire - Marathon - King Darius - Artemisia - Man To God - War (13:36)<br>= <br><br>M1A Rise of An Empire (09:48)<br>M1B From Man to God King (03:44)<br><br>02. Greek Council - Persian War Plan - Spartan Fight Training - Greek Conversation - Your Commander Is Greek (10:47) <br>=<br><br>M2 Greek Council (03:39)<br>M3 Greek Conversation (07:06)<br><br>05. Suicide - General Bandari - Circle Battle (7:30) <br>=<br><br>M6 Suicide/General Bandari (02:10)<br>M7 Circle Battle (05:16)<br><br>06. Sex - Fire Battle (12:04) <br>=<br><br>M10 Sex (05:36)<br>M11 Fire Battle (06:21)<br><br>11. Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale (16:08) <br>=<br><br>M15-17A Our Final Stand/Showdown Pt.1 (08:19)<br>M17B-19 Showdown Pt.2/Finale (07:37)I'm not really interested in Balfe's part of work, but it would be a big disappointment if Richter's work wouldn't released.<br><br>But I think there's a good chance that movie (and music in particular) get an Oscar nominations, so let's just hope for the best.
@mpolonest123 any idea how to break up the really long cues on the complete? it’s a lot of tracks that are made up of several cuesArtemisia Suite = History of Artemisia <br>Greek Action Suite = Marathon <br>Xerxes Rebirth Suite = From Man to God King<br>Greek Sacrifice Suite = ???<br>Artemisia’s Childhood Suite = Artemisia’s Childhood<br>Greek Attack Suite = Greeks on Attack<br>Queen Gorgo Suite = Queen Gorgo<br>Xerxes Thoughts Suite = Xerxes Thoughts<br>Greek History Suite = History of the Greeks<br>Greek Victory Suite = Greeks Are Winning<br><br>Hope this helps! :-)Hybrid can you tell us what album cues are the suites ?!well, from what Lorne wrote on Twitter, it should be releasedCool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.
The Hans cues used are :<br><br>1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)<br>1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)<br>2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES<br>2M3 BLACK WOLF<br>2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)<br>3M1 THIN ICE<br>3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH<br>3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK<br>3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK<br>6M4 THE BEAR<br>6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK<br>7M3 IN THE STABLE<br>7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN<br>8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)<br>8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)<br><br>All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues pleaseI imagined it ... hopefully this time Max Ritcher does not give him a lollipop and refuses to launch his musicYes Unbreakable.
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<br>Exactly like White Fang. Have Poledouris write a score, then HZ do another, then pick what you want from both.
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<br>Ghost In The Shell was kinda different...In the credits of the movie, Max Ritcher appears as the Main Composer, meanwhile, Lorne appears as Additional Music
I find that it would be best to accredit both and launch the two soundtracks and all happy.Hybrid implies that Max Ritcher's score was rejected, and that Lorne made a new one and in the end, the best of both has been used.  I am right?ANd now apparently another guy is scoring it as well lmaoTechnically he's a little under 50% used so there's no obligation. But he wrote a whole score for it.but if Lorne has written 50% of the score you should have a credit like in Ghost in the shell
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Conductor - Orchestrator
Mark MancinaTrevor RabinPaul LinfordNick Glennie-Smith
ComposerComposerScore ProducerConductor
Con Air
Label: Hollywood Records
Length: 44'57
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  1. Con Air Theme (1:31)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  2. Trisha (1:04)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  3. Carson City (3:04)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  4. Lear Crash (4:44)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  5. Lerner Landing (3:28)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  6. Romantic Chaos (1:22)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  7. The Takeover (3:52)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  8. The Discharge (1:09)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  9. Jailbirds (0:59)
    Trevor Rabin
  10. Cons Check Out Lerner (1:55)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  11. Poe Saves Cops (2:25)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  12. The Fight (0:22)
    Trevor Rabin
  13. Battle In The Boneyard (7:41)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  14. Poe Meets Larkin (1:14)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  15. Bedlam Larkin (0:49)
    Trevor Rabin
  16. Fire Truck Chase (4:22)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  17. Overture (4:18)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
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Bayhem reply Replies: 3 || 2018-04-02 21:55:15
I think it's safe to say that this is the MV/RC score that our "favorite" Filmtracks guy hates the most. I don't care about critics in general (I read some stuff simply for entertainment), I just find it amusing how much he hates this one.

Yes, it's very loud and harsh and frenetic. But calling it a "wretched piece of work" is a bit over-the-top. At least in my opinion. What's your opinion on this one, folks?


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-02 22:10:28
I used to not like it all that much and it's still a bit of a cheap-sounding mess, but like most of the late-90s MV scores, it has aged well, with memorable themes and a sense of fun that elevates it above many a joyless, droning RC score of today.


mpolonest123 2018-04-02 22:24:08
I used to hate this score (in context) just based on the villain’s theme, which is about as cliched an evil motif as you can get. That being said, this score really has aged well and may be the dumbest, if not one of the most fun MV scores out there. It also helps that both Mark Mancina and Trevor Rabin are extremely talented.


Bayhem2018-04-02 23:54:59
Agreed. Compared to a lot of more recent MV/RC scores, this one holds up extremely well. It works better. Having said that, I think this would've been a way better score if Rabin was by himself. Think about it, his style, his rock n roll approach is just perfect for a movie like Con Air. Mancina - even though I like him a lot - seems to be out of place, as far as this project is concerned. The only reason Rabin wasn't by himself is that he was at the start of his career and Mancina at that point was everywhere (Bad Boys, Speed, Twister, Fair Game...).

The two have very different styles actually, and maybe that's why this score doesn't sit well with some people. I'm sure it would've been received way better if it was composed by Rabin and HGW. I mean, just look at Armageddon!

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-09 23:45:11
What a fun score... Just watched the movie again, reminded me of the good old times. Huge and fun action flicks with this old, classic RC sound... I need more movies like Face/Off, The Rock and this one.

Ele reply Replies: 2 || 2009-10-13 00:00:00
Who made which cue? Anyone knows?


El Baradei2012-12-28 17:14:05
Michel Legrand co-composed Track 12, The Fight. It seemed to be really necessary because it lasts 22 seconds.


Mike2012-12-29 09:21:02
^ lol ^

asdf reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-30 00:00:00
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nick reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-16 00:00:00
very good

aRRR reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-05 00:00:00
Probably a very underrated score, i like it!

airmax reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-01 00:00:00
very good score

Alonso reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-09 00:00:00
very good!

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