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Probably the only reason Goldsmith isn't in my top 3 is I haven't heard enough of his music. :pWallfisch is a good composer indeed, but BR2049 (and Dunkirk) were absolutely the wrong place for him. He's not a synth guy. He was originally a protege of Dario Marianelli, for heaven's sake - he's got a far more classical/orchestral sensibility. A score like Cure for Wellness is a much better fit for him. I'm not sure why Hans thought it was best to bring him of all people in on BR2049 when the more electronically-inclined Mazzaro/Kawczynski duo would have made more sense for a Blade Runner score (I say this based mostly on Chappie).Ian - no one is trying to compare Balfe to Zimmer !Firstly there is a 20 year age gap!!!Zimmer will always be the best in my eyes but doesn’t harm saying someone else can be good <br><br>Still confused why this conversation is still troubling some.I remember saying last year that I thought Lego Batman was one of the best animation scores that year and it caused some to have heart attacks.there are a hand full of people that don’t think he is either good or should be working .... we get !!!! <br><br><br><br>Edmund - given the rationality you've displayed in your comments, I'm disappointed Goldsmith isn't in your top three. ;)<br><br>In all seriousness, I'd put money on Powell fucking nailing the integration of Williams's theme. While Giacchino did a solid job on Jurassic World and Rogue One (I tend to think my assessment of the latter is a bit more positive than most), frankly I just think Powell is a far better composer - a genuine A-level guy, whereas Giacchino is moreso very competent without that spark of pure talent seen in Williams, Goldsmith, Elfman, Zimmer etcI think it's worth noting that Zimmer's popularity at this point is largely under his direct control - meaning that if he were to decide to stop touring, go back to writing full-time, and return to his 'epic' thematic style, I think we'd see a surge in his popularity of the sort we saw from Batman Begins through til Interstellar. However, I just don't think he's interested, which is totally his right.<br><br>I certainly agree that the RCP proteges at this point are, frankly, shit compared to how they used to be. I mean, even a guy like Steve Mazzaro (who I genuinely like and who wrote some of the coolest cues in Chappie, and basically co-wrote BvS - a score I actually like) just utterly pales in comparison to the Powell era.<br><br>Actually, I have to take that back a bit; Wallfisch is a very, very talented guy, honestly so much better than someone like Junkie that I weirdly tend to forget he's under the RCP roof now.
@HunterTech<br><br>"I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world."<br><br>Exactly. Hans, for all the criticism he gets (much of it for good reason), has written some of the best film music of all time (seriously, having listened to huge amounts of Williams and Goldsmith, I still find Science & Religion my favorite cue ever). On the other hand, Lorne has written innumerable adequate-to-good scores, but none that I can recall are iconic. I'd say the closest he's come is in the form of his contributions to some of Zimmer's work (personally, I think his Kick It theme is the most interesting of those in Inception), but even then he hasn't done anything as memorable as Djawadi's theme from Batman Begins.Michael - reread the second half of my previous comment. And no, I don't think Genius or Churchill are no good; I wasn't impressed by the second, to be honest, but Genius is really cool - like an updated version of Frost/Nixon, one of my very favorite Zimmer/RCP scores.<br><br>Edmund - much appreciated.<br><br>Overall, I too am baffled by many of these comments; clearly there is a middle ground between "Lorne is shit." and "Lorne is absolutely amazing.", but this seems to be missed.<br><br>And by the way, I'm actually super happy for Lorne's success - I think he deserves it given the quality and quantity of his work, and he seems like a super nice guy to boot (how many composers regularly respond to people on Facebook?). However, this doesn't mean I can't simultaneously point out the fact that much of his work is very, very similar to work he's done previously. Indeed, I think this is more of an issue for Lorne than Hans, perhaps because he takes on sooooooo many projects.I agree. His Justice League theme is just a deconstruct of his Batman theme. Clever, yeah sure - he's done similar things with the Men In Black sequels and I'm sure there's others I can't think of right now - but I personally dont consider Elfman's involvement in this new DCEU to be very welcome. Zimmer paints a different canvas than Elfman, and I love both their works.It was a missed opportunity.<br>Yeah... I'm not sure about Elfman's wave. The guy decided to bring back his old Batman theme instead of actually writing a new one. He has to re-invent himself. <br>
Seven with ZimmerYeah, Silvestri, Newman, Goldenthal and JNH too. The six most popular "new" composers, along with Horner, of the  80's and 90's.I saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitI saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitHonestly, I do feel bad for Elfman, because for Chrissakes hes been doing 50 Shades of Grey these days, and the last memorable scores I have of him are from 2012. But I don't think Zimmer or even Elfman for that matter are done as yet. I predict by the end of this decade Zimmer will have a new wave in popularity wash in. I'm just waiting for Elfman's wave right now...not quite seeing it yet.
Glad you caught it Rockhound. Think the others were too wound up to notice !!i was trying to be funny.Pete you are funny, although u demand from others to talk about the actual soundtrack from this page, you start to talk also about another soundtrack. but ok.... i think Forgotten is a very boring track and adds nothing to the actual scene. a variation of his theme from the track Hero would have been much more intense for the ending. sadly we got 9 boring minutes of thematic development and instrumentation. Lorne can do much better as the track Hero from the same soundtrack shows.Zimmer got X-Men: Dark Phoenix this year. And I have a hard time believing he is only scoring that film this year. Zimmer always does more than 1 film a year.No need for petty cursing .<br><br>We can discuss the soundtrack instead ! <br><br>Forgotten is cool track.It’s definitely one of Bay’s best movies. Wish he would make more drama based film obvious with some action. Can’t cope with more robots ! The ending of the film is so emotional and this track gave goosebumps at the end. Did sound very similar to the end of The Last Knight"Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject."<br><br>Ok, so someone else gets us on this topic, an arguement occurs, and NOW, only when you've realized you're losing the arguement, do you decide that this page is only for 12 strong. Which it's not. This is a forum we talk about whatever we want here.<br><br>But what a childish and pathetic attempt at avoiding our points. Just dismissively saying "Boring! Change the subject! My ears can't handle this criticism!!! Wah, wah, wah!" I guarantee you the next step after this is going to be petty cursing.
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Hans ZimmerNick Glennie-SmithChristopher WardJay Rifkin
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Crimson Tide (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 91'27
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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  1. Main Titles (3:13)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. News Report (1:36)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Briefing (2:46)
  4. Goodbye (2:02)
    Hans Zimmer
  5. Alabama (3:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  6. Diving (2:04)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  7. War (1:29)
  8. Fire In The Galley (1:23)
    Hans Zimmer
  9. The Drill (1:58)
  10. Decompressing (0:53)
  11. The Real EAM (2:38)
  12. Contact (5:49)
  13. This Is Not A Drill (3:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  14. Classification (3:23)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  15. Command (9:33)
  16. Flood (6:45)
  17. Mutiny (9:48)
  18. Counter Mutiny (18:11)
    Hans Zimmer
  19. Crisis Averted (0:51)
    Nick Glennie-Smith
  20. Pearl Harbor (1:13)
  21. Court Of Inquiry (1:49)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  22. End Titles (7:35)
    Hans Zimmer
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mittens reply Replies: 1 || 2018-02-11 03:03:07
Um... regarding track #6 I think the composers cannot be HZ/NG-S, but John Dykes, I don't know what could they have composed there...


Mike (OTM)2018-02-11 17:22:06
It means they arranged the piece, in this case.

FS reply Replies: 1 || 2016-11-10 18:52:36
The film version from "Fire In The Galley" never appeared on any of those complete version ?


Mr Tweedy2016-11-10 23:51:14
Nope... Film version sounds more like a music editor work... making a loop out of the main theme and spreading it out on top of the drums. That's why it's probably not featured on any expanded versions of the score.

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-19 19:19:16
One of the best film scores ever made by Hans!

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-06 03:18:56
Crimson Tide Slates Sessions
1m1
1m2
2m4
3m5a
3m5b
3m6
3m7a
3m7b
4m8
5m10
5m12
5m13
6m14
7m15
7m16
9m18
9m19
11m20a
11m20b
13m21
13m21alt
13m22

Poe reply Replies: 0 || 2012-07-09 09:47:15
Does this edition contain the missing drum overdubs and distorted electric guitar sounds in Akula, that were missing from the previous expanded leak?

Bioscope reply Replies: 1 || 2011-03-27 00:00:00
I heard these unreleased tracks on a stream site that got bought out recently and they sounded genuine, although the fire outbreak score sounds a little different from the film version.


Mr Tweedy2012-04-11 19:21:35
Isn't this tracklist different and more complete than the expanded that surfaced last year ?! 91 minutes ?!

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-15 00:00:00
Thanks Per. What about the 2CD one?

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-14 00:00:00
The "new" stuff is just a rip from the film, yes.

You can clearly hear sound effects here and there. It's in mono in parts. It's got weird combinations with the OST. To name a couple of issues...

I will be happy to give a more detailed explanation if that's required, or wanted !

Btw. if the end of track 9 on this very big fake version is the main reason why you want it so bad ... don't bother. Go with the Dirty Pictures submission agency promo instead (track 1, "11m20B") :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-13 00:00:00
Yeah so wheres the Opening music and the other 2 unreleased cues from, listed below on the 1CD? DVD rips?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-13 00:00:00
The only good sources you can find for a Crimson Tide is :

- The OST

- A Nick Glennie-Smith promo (Dirty Pictures) containing 3 unreleased cues (listed on this website) :

"Crisis Averted" / "Court Of Inquiery" / "This Is Not A Drill"

That's all... :P

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-13 00:00:00
Its not complete but it has more music than the 1CD here.

DISC ONE:
1. RUSSIAN CIVIL WAR
2. MUTINY
3. ALABAMA
4. LITTLE DUCKS
5. DEFCON
6. THE ENEMY IS WAR
7. RANGE AND SPEED
8. ZULU TIME
9. AUTHENTICATION
10. ALABAMA

DISC TWO:
1. ZERO BUBBLE
2. 1SG
3. THE ARMORY
4. TORPEDOS
5. PEARL HARBOR
6. ROLL TIDE

I second the anon comment below - wheres the unreleased bits from?

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-13 00:00:00
2CD Complete Score? Never heard of it either... And I've been in this "business" for a while ! Any info (tracklist...) ?

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-12 00:00:00
Never heard or saw a 2 CD complete score.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-12 00:00:00
there is a 2D complete score very hard to find but it exists!!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-12 00:00:00
Where do the unreleased parts come from, especially the opening track?

Skyler reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-13 00:00:00
Listed below the title of each track is the corresponding cue from the commercially available album

1. Opening / Conflict / Alabama:
The first minute and 25 seconds of this track is unreleased material, but isn’t anything particularly special. The sound quality isn’t the best either.
The rest is the first 8 minutes and 25 seconds of “Alabama”

2. Resurrection:
The last 9 minutes and 47 seconds of “Alabama”

3. Little Ducks:
“Little Ducks”

4. 1SQ (alternate):
The first 11 minutes and 9 seconds of “1SQ”
As far as I can tell this is exactly the same as the1SQ from track 8 of this bootleg, so I’m not even sure why it would be considered an alternate

5. Mutiny:
“Mutiny”

6. Day 12:
8:23 – 14:04 from “1SQ”

7. 3… 2… 1…:
This is another previously unreleased track, but contains parts that are so similar to other parts of the album that it hardly matters. (In fact, it sounds like most of this *is* made up of other segments, possibly arranged by a fan)

8. 1SQ / 3:00:
The first 16 minutes and 13 seconds of “1SQ”

9. 2SQ / November 2nd:
The last 2 minutes of “1SQ”
The remainder of the track is a third unreleased cue, which is a nice (albeit short) variation of the main theme. It’s quite good, but it’s still not worth going through the trouble of finding this bootleg.

10. End Credits:
“Roll Tide”

Overall, I would not recommend seeking this one out. The only reason why anyone should really want it is if they are not satisfied with the extremely long tracks on the commercial release - but if you own a music editing program you can just edit it yourself based on the information I’ve provided. The end of track 9 is good, but like I said, it’s not worth going through the trouble of finding the bootleg to get it.

Stefan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-09 00:00:00
Wonderful...

Mac reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-25 00:00:00
Is it possible to get an explanation of what tracks do/don't contain new material not heard on the original album? And, maybe, whereabouts during these tracks... Most of it seems very similar to the commercial release.

Marie reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-07 00:00:00
"The Gladiator Waltz" at the Puy du Fou... beautiful music! of course it's from Nick! ;-)

greg reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-28 00:00:00
my favourite soundtrack

herdim reply Replies: 0 || 2005-05-27 00:00:00
Un excellent score du compositeur pour un bon film du tres sous-estimé Tony Scott ( The Last Boy-Scout, Enemy Of The State )
Hans Zimmer a ecrit un excellent theme principal, -trés utilisé lors des bandes annonces des blockbuster- ainsi qu'un excellent End Titles

Ude Eko reply Replies: 0 || 2005-02-22 00:00:00
Unfortunately, a deep let down. I got the CD via eBay and was expecting an encore to the wonderful score which is my second favorite after Gladiator (all-time).

It turns out that the tracks on this CD are basically cropped and chopped from the original score - only the first two minutes of the CD and two other very brief sections contain music not heard on the original.

I am forced to think twice before obtaining expanded music - although that is a pity seeing how the Gladiator 2 score is such a wonderful expression of Hans Zimmer's work.

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