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Dunno if this is a troll post or a legit one... but I do agree to an extent. Both Mortal Engines and Alita show a HUGE improvement in Tom’s compositional technique, regardless of Conrad Pope’s contribution (which I’m sure still has something to do with it.) <br><br>I actually enjoy his early works (300, Point Break, Run All Night, Divergent) but you can definitely hear the vast difference in quality over time, and as Tom grows as a composer I’m sure his future scores will be the same way.5 years and it sounds like a blend of bvs and fury road. both of which come after it.Woah, this sounds outdated already, like a bad 90s video game. For the record, it was composed 4 years ago. This fetishization of technology over compositional technique is absolutely ridiculous. <br><br>Now, Tom has seen the errors of his ways and hired some actual orchestrators (not the RCP clown bunch) and Mortal Engines and Battle Angel Alita are actually excellent scores. They show that he masters compositional technique to the hilt. This early stuff - I suspect it will be buried soon. <br>Richter is a conceptual artist, I love his Leftovers score, but come one, scoring to picture ?<br><br>He writes pieces that are used in scenes, not the other way around...<br><br>Richter scoring a moon buggy chase ? Hell no... lol you could see from day one it was gonna be replaced...^ Yeah the edit floating around matches Felix’s almost to a T. Only major difference is <br><br>“Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale”<br><br>Which is broken up into four separate cues. Realistically you could edit it anyway you want if you prefer the smaller cues. Personally, I like the long suite-like format of this release. Kinda like the album release for “Event Horizon” lol.
I hope they at least release Richter's score.My Edit:<br><br>01. Rise Of An Empire - Marathon - King Darius - Artemisia - Man To God - War (13:36)<br>= <br><br>M1A Rise of An Empire (09:48)<br>M1B From Man to God King (03:44)<br><br>02. Greek Council - Persian War Plan - Spartan Fight Training - Greek Conversation - Your Commander Is Greek (10:47) <br>=<br><br>M2 Greek Council (03:39)<br>M3 Greek Conversation (07:06)<br><br>05. Suicide - General Bandari - Circle Battle (7:30) <br>=<br><br>M6 Suicide/General Bandari (02:10)<br>M7 Circle Battle (05:16)<br><br>06. Sex - Fire Battle (12:04) <br>=<br><br>M10 Sex (05:36)<br>M11 Fire Battle (06:21)<br><br>11. Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale (16:08) <br>=<br><br>M15-17A Our Final Stand/Showdown Pt.1 (08:19)<br>M17B-19 Showdown Pt.2/Finale (07:37)I'm not really interested in Balfe's part of work, but it would be a big disappointment if Richter's work wouldn't released.<br><br>But I think there's a good chance that movie (and music in particular) get an Oscar nominations, so let's just hope for the best.@mpolonest123 any idea how to break up the really long cues on the complete? it’s a lot of tracks that are made up of several cuesArtemisia Suite = History of Artemisia <br>Greek Action Suite = Marathon <br>Xerxes Rebirth Suite = From Man to God King<br>Greek Sacrifice Suite = ???<br>Artemisia’s Childhood Suite = Artemisia’s Childhood<br>Greek Attack Suite = Greeks on Attack<br>Queen Gorgo Suite = Queen Gorgo<br>Xerxes Thoughts Suite = Xerxes Thoughts<br>Greek History Suite = History of the Greeks<br>Greek Victory Suite = Greeks Are Winning<br><br>Hope this helps! :-)
Hybrid can you tell us what album cues are the suites ?!well, from what Lorne wrote on Twitter, it should be releasedCool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.The Hans cues used are :<br><br>1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)<br>1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)<br>2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES<br>2M3 BLACK WOLF<br>2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)<br>3M1 THIN ICE<br>3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH<br>3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK<br>3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK<br>6M4 THE BEAR<br>6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK<br>7M3 IN THE STABLE<br>7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN<br>8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)<br>8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)<br><br>All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues please
I imagined it ... hopefully this time Max Ritcher does not give him a lollipop and refuses to launch his musicYes Unbreakable.
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<br>Exactly like White Fang. Have Poledouris write a score, then HZ do another, then pick what you want from both.
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<br>Ghost In The Shell was kinda different...In the credits of the movie, Max Ritcher appears as the Main Composer, meanwhile, Lorne appears as Additional MusicI find that it would be best to accredit both and launch the two soundtracks and all happy.Hybrid implies that Max Ritcher's score was rejected, and that Lorne made a new one and in the end, the best of both has been used.  I am right?
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Black Rain (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 99'36
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  1. I'll Be Holding On (Main Title) (2:37)
  2. Sato (6:08)
  3. One-Way Glass (0:30)
  4. Osaka (0:41)
  5. Phony Cops (1:16)
  6. You Gonna Be Nice? (0:30)
  7. The Club (4:57)
  8. Sat Watching - Circling Motorbikes (2:01)
  9. Sugai's Photo - The Tip (4:00)
  10. Nick Steals The Money (2:07)
  11. Charlie Loses His Head (2:35)
  12. Sorrow (2:51)
  13. Outburst Of Rage (3:18)
  14. Sequins (2:51)
  15. Masa's Reprimand (1:54)
  16. Chase To The Steel Mill (3:50)
  17. The Steel Mill (2:46)
  18. Steel Mill Chase - Airplane - Escape (6:21)
  19. Sugai (8:52)
  20. Arrival Of Oyabuns (2:06)
  21. Sato's Arrival - Meeting (5:58)
  22. Bikes - Fight (3:20)
  23. Nick & Masa (6:10)
  24. I'll Be Holding On (5:41)
  25. Airplane Muzak (Source) (2:05)
  26. Charlie Loses His Head (Alternate) (2:34)
  27. Sorrow (Alternate) (2:49)
  28. Charlie Loses His Head (Monks Wild) (2:14)
  29. Masa's Reprimand (Alternate) (1:51)
  30. Bikes (Percussion Only) (1:38)
  31. Bikes - Fight (Alternate) (3:21)
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majidjon13 reply Replies: 0 || 2013-10-26 05:06:26
Black Rain (0:28)

Seat belt Tight baby??
awesome track.its could be used basically on a new Song.

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
I can probably provide a cleaner version in the coming months.

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-28 00:00:00
i dont think so :S

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-27 00:00:00
Is there a cleaner version of this out there? This suffers from being from an analog sourse and the hiss makes it hard to listen too... come on, someone must have this out there!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-09-06 00:00:00
Yes Josh

Josh Harold reply Replies: 0 || 2009-09-06 00:00:00
It's a very marvellous soundtrack from Hans :).

Uga Ecle reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-23 00:00:00
Scarica sul cellulare la canzone "I'll Be Holding On"Hans-Zimmer&Gregg-Allman

the Dude reply Replies: 0 || 2009-01-16 00:00:00
Probably the reason why this isn’t released is because most of his scores sound the same. ‘Charlie Loses His Head’ at 6:15 on the official release is identical to his Batman Begins score. (not just similar, but identical!). Many of the cues in black rain also draw similarities to his recent Last Samurai. Similar with Black Hawk Down’s track ‘Tribal War’ – is the identical theme from Pirates of the Caribbean. Perhaps its not fair to claim that he rips off his own music (after all... he wrote it), and i do like many of his works – even if they are repeats of his previous pieces. But c’mon mr zimmer, i know your capable of more!!

Wolfgar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-11 00:00:00
A soundtrack masterpiece, period. I'm in the same boat as Lsnake: I've been searching for the movie opening version of "I'll Be Holding On" for many years, it just does not seem to be out there. I would offer pretty good money for a clean copy of that track. Released version of that song is great, but the great opening guitar riff is not part of it.
I would still love to see the expanded score available. Hans rules.

Bri reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-01 00:00:00
Hans, you're the man! I've been a big fan since 'Crimson Tide' and only just recently discovered that you composed the music to 'Black Rain.' Please excert your influence to get your full instrumental score for this film released on cd. You deserve it. We, your fans, deserve it. The music deserves it.

Lsnake reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-12 00:00:00
Oh, I was talking about "I'll be Holding on". The one that is playing from the start of the movie. Trying desperately to figure out if it's possible to obtain that version, if it's a full version, anything..

Lsnake reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-12 00:00:00
I've always loved the version that is actually in the movie, better than the more "rocked" version you get from the soundtrack. Fantastic song for sure, but there's something about the intro one that I can't resist.

It's not on the extended score, and I'm just not sure where to look for it. It should exist somewhere right? Considering Gregg sang that version, it should be available somewhere?

To make it clear, it's the version that plays from the Red Sun with "Black Rain" in white letters, to when Nick arrives at with his MC. Tried Youtube, but everyone got the rocked up version, and none got the in-movie version..If anyone got any ideas, I'd be extremely grateful.

rukie reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-03 00:00:00
Please release this great album :(

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-04 00:00:00
Year 2008 and this great score still not released ? Shame, real shame :(

Would be great if this album with complete score will be released :)

Cheers.

Ramiz reply Replies: 0 || 2008-04-11 00:00:00
Hi!
I am from Uzbekistan.
Do you know mister Zimmer, in Uzbekistan many people likes your scores.
You are best of the best! Remember my words? it's a true!

Vinay Chauhan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-21 00:00:00
I am crazy about the score of this movie. Please release the expanded score version of Black Rain. Its a great soundtrack and I am anxiously waiting for it to own this album.

Luo reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-10 00:00:00
As Asian, I am really shocked by the music, as Hans has successfully mixed the Eastern and Western style together. That's brilliant!

airmax reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-01 00:00:00
Hi Hans,

Please release the complete soundtrack of Black Rain.

Jazz reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-09 00:00:00
Please release the complete soundtrack.

Mario reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-01 00:00:00
Agreed, please release this one :) !!!

ToHeart reply Replies: 0 || 2007-09-28 00:00:00
MasterPiece of Zimmer's Action Score
I hope New Score Album!!!!!

JoeBlack reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-08 00:00:00
Please ! Release this wonderful score :)

Lsnake reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-06 00:00:00
I'll be Holding on is a fantastic song, but I've heard both the normal and expanded soundtrack, and the version of "I'll be holding on" in the beginning of the movie is nowhere to be found. Does this version exist these days? The end version also seems different than the one released on the standard Soundtrack..

The normal version is great, but there's something special about the more atmospheric version in the beginning.

Danny Celis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-18 00:00:00
Today, the 18th of september of 2006 it is impossible to buy this exiting CD...a shame. Hans Zimmer set the standard for the modern day ost music, as well as James Horner e.a. These CD's should be available to everyone, in every country, even now...

cymod reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-23 00:00:00
Why doesn't Herr Zimmer release his own version of this much sought after bootleg? He could present it the way it should be done...right!

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Agent_SB reply Replies: 0 || 2005-10-03 00:00:00
When expadned score will be relased ??

puneet reply Replies: 0 || 2005-09-13 00:00:00
hi my name is puneet and i am absolutely in love with the song I'll be holding on (ost black rain).
i live in india could you please tell me where can i find a cd ofr the soundtrack in india. please do tell

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2005-09-13 00:00:00
Puneet: You can find easily the official CD with that song on eBay.

Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2005-09-12 00:00:00
"--Outburst Of Rage"-- in one part is similar to track "--Molossus"-- from Batman Begins!

Just listen and see!

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