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Haha!  Wear the mask. how fitting.yap. and all of the alternates :PI want that "Final Confrontation" cue so much!Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.
I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.
Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.
So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!
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Additional Music
Hans ZimmerHeitor PereiraMichael BrookJim Dooley
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAdditional Music
Black Hawk Down (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 186'20
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  1. Hunger (6:36)
  2. Garrison Briefing (4:19)
  3. Calm Before The Storm (5:04)
  4. Chant (5:44)
  5. Hostages - Pila Is Dead (5:01)
  6. Black Hawk Down (3:26)
  7. Moving Out (3:24)
  8. After The Crash (2:57)
  9. In School (1:28)
  10. Crash Site (5:48)
  11. Of The Earth (2:19)
  12. Roadblock (2:42)
  13. Super 64 Going Down (5:19)
  14. Cover Me (3:35)
  15. Ashes To Ashes (4:43)
  16. Leave No Man Behind (2:18)
  17. Overview (1:16)
  18. Draw Off Fire (1:23)
  19. Get Us Out Of Here (3:05)
  20. Rescue (8:02)
  21. Hold Your Fire (3:37)
  22. Garrison Requests UN Troops (2:37)
  23. Firimbi Interrogation (1:34)
  24. Pinned Down (4:35)
  25. Holy War (1:12)
  26. It's Nothing (2:03)
  27. Tribal War (3:08)
  28. Evac - Run To The Stadium (9:48)
  29. It's About The Men Next To You (3:10)
  30. Still (4:48)
  31. Hunger (Alternate) (6:36)
  32. Bakara (Suite) (3:14)
  33. Marketplace (Suite) (1:43)
  34. Chant (Suite) (2:34)
  35. Market (Suite) (2:46)
  36. Pila Is Dead (Alternate I) (2:22)
  37. Pila Is Dead (Alternate II) (2:22)
  38. Black Hawk Down (Suite) (1:39)
  39. Ascent (Suite) (5:36)
  40. Vale Of Plenty (Suite) (2:28)
  41. Synchrotone (Suite) (2:40)
  42. Tribal War (Album Version) (2:40)
  43. Monitors (Suite) (2:37)
  44. Super 64 Going Down (Demo) (3:44)
  45. Leave No Man Behind (Alternate) (2:22)
  46. Still (Reprise) (2:12)
  47. Mogadishu Blues (Suite) (2:54)
  48. Get Us Out Of Here (Alternate) (3:08)
  49. The Next Turn (Suite) (3:14)
  50. Leave No Man Behind (Suite) (6:19)
  51. Run To The Stadium (Alternate) (2:22)
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Nathan reply Replies: 0 || 2020-06-06 11:02:34
Hybrid, is there any chance we can get some infos and credits for the cues? That would be outstanding. Thanks!

Michael Baker reply Replies: 2 || 2019-04-26 06:37:46
I haven't seen much discussion of this, at least not on the BHD pages. so I'll bring it up...

What credits do we know on this score, if any?


Mr Tweedy2019-04-26 17:23:34
Well, most of the process for this score was based on a collaborative effort by the BHD Band (Zimmer/Brook/Eastman/Pereira/Tillman).
The themes are HZ (Leave No Man Behind Suite aka "Brothers", the string progression from Still, Tribal War).

HZ wrote most of the thematic cues from the beginning of the process : the opening of Hunger and Of the Earth (with added lyrics by singer Baaba Maal).
Tillman improvised the electric cello from Ashes to Ashes.
It appears Craig Eastman arranged the Vale of Plenty track. Bakara was written by Jeff Rona.
Mel Wesson wrote the Flight to Bakara ambient section from Chant.
Mogadishu Blues is an Heitor Pereira cue.

Jim Dooley and Trevor Morris helped on Tribal War (film version) - the beginning of the final battle.
Ilan Eshkeri contributed to After the Crash and segments of Rescue.
I remember seeing the BHD Band jamming with the "Hold Your Fire" track in the behind the scene.


Michael Baker2019-04-28 22:11:39
Thanks, Mr. Tweedy. I'm surprised the Leave No Man Behind suite didn't make it onto the World of Hans Zimmer setlist. But I guess they can't include every movie.

alihaidar paradox reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-10 09:31:24
the feeling that comes to me when I hear your music is indescribable. You interfere me in another world.. I m waiting your new music.. All the best

Guzz reply Replies: 5 || 2018-03-10 14:38:06
I've read an article about BHD and here a quote which amused me:

"The score being very experimental, Hans Zimmer was afraid there would not be much music suitable for a listening experience on compact disc."

HAHAHA, damn how time has changed. What are your fears now Mr. Zimmer, after you've killed the listening experience totally with your scores lately, like Dunkirk and all those Drone scores. In comparisson to your work now, BHD is a melodical and listening experience paradise!


Mike (OTM)2018-03-10 22:30:15
Well. You're not wrong.

I was noticing the same thing watching Black Hawk Down recently. Compared to his recent output, it's practically beautiful. And it has...ya know...THEMES. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-10 23:48:39
If you'd take Hans to his words, no music he ever wrote would have been released.


Olive2018-03-11 00:07:55
Hans is an advertiser. He is able to say anything to draw attention to his work! He has not acquired all the popularity he has for nothing.


Ian2018-03-11 02:05:01
Olive - I'm not sure I agree; I think Hans loves the attention, but he also seems to be more concerned with telling a good story than actually being, you know, right. A prime example of this is his "The Dark Knight movies were twelve years of our lives." when by every confirmable account he worked on them over a period of seven years.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-11 10:11:38
Hans gets mixed up with dates...

He's not like us, watching his career year by year... I remember in an interview he even had to ask his assistant Cynthia about what year The Lion King was done... He worked 8 years on TDK Trilogy... When he started to tell that story, it had been 12 years that he started... But he mixed up, and kept telling 12 years WORKING on it... lol

BHD Fan reply Replies: 6 || 2018-02-27 05:55:37
How does the "sessions" leak compare to this above tracklisting?

1. BHD.1M1/2/3/4 (5:58)
2. BHD.1M1/2/3/4Rmx (6:46)
3. BHD.1M1AL Rmx (2:15)
4. BHD.2M12 (4:30)
5. BHD.2M15/16B (5:21)
6. BHD.2M16A (1:46)
7. BHD.3M18 (11:22)
8. BHD.3M18w vox (6:41)
9. BHD.3M19Insert (2:17)
10. BHD.3M20 (5:47)
11. BHD.3M20Rmx (2:27)
12. BHD.3M20w Vox (5:47)
13. BHD.3M21 (3:18)
14. BHD.4M22pt1 2 (3:22)
15. BHD.4M23 (4:36)
16. BHD.4M24 (2:16)
17. BHD.4M24 New (1:54)
18. BHD.4M25 26A B (11:06)
19. BHD.4M25OvrLy (2:38)
20. BHD.5M27A (2:29)
21. BHD.5M27B (1:09)
22. BHD.5M28 (2:21)
23. BHD.5M28Rmx (2:17)
24. BHD.5M29A (1:24)
25. BHD.5M29B (3:10)
26. BHD.5M29BRedo (3:09)
27. BHD.5M29C New (1:14)
28. BHD.5M30/33 (7:02)
29. BHD.6M34 (3:36)
30. BHD.6M34ANew (1:23)
31. BHD.6M35 (2:48)
32. BHD.6M35BNew (1:59)
33. BHD.6M36 (2:03)
34. BHD.6M37 (3:38)
35. BHD.6M37alt2 (1:17)
36. BHD.7M38 (1:12)
37. BHD.7M39 (1:40)
38. BHD.7M40 (3:08)
39. BHD.7M40w xtras (3:08)
40. BHD.7M41/42 (9:49)
41. BHD.7M42 (4:22)
42. BHD.8M43 (3:12)

Most of the track times do not seem to add up and the sessions appear to be even in the wrong sequence. Anyone got any ideas? Are these cue numbers fake or something?


Mr Tweedy2018-02-27 10:25:45
You got the original version with sessions track names. The expanded score featured here is a re-organized version aimed for a better listening experience.
Nonetheless, both versions are still incomplete !


BHD Fan2018-02-28 00:00:41
So the one by Hybrid moves some tracks around?


Mr Tweedy2018-03-01 23:50:47
Well, I've been heavily involved in remastering unreleased scores with Hybrid Soldier for about 10 years.

The version of BHD showed on this page is my work. I edited some tracks together (such as 2m15_16B with 2m16A that were originally meant to be mixed together, while they were presented on the sessions in an almost unlistenable, non-chronological way), and I worked several days in order to get the best audio mix possible.

As we got many different sources for this score (sessions, various promos, soundtrack album...), I made a version that is as complete as possible. A few tracks are still missing from every version available.

So, no, Hybrid didn't move tracks around, that's me who tried to provide the best, most complete presentation of this score. And this is Hybrid who decided to showcase this version here.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-01 23:53:27
^

What he said... Even though, sometimes, yeah, I do move tracks around ! lol


Marcorea12018-03-02 02:27:41
I too made my own edit. Not complete but just an alternative listen using the tracks I thought was best. ‘The Mogadishu commemorative’


BHD Fan2018-03-03 04:19:59
Mr Tweedy thanks for replying. Can you give a rough breakdown of what tracks from the "sessions" correspond to your version seen here? You are right in that some of the sessions tracks are un-listenable and while I don't have the promos CDs and extra stuff, it'd be interesting to see how you came up with the version seen here.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 11 || 2018-02-27 13:53:30
This was in many ways the start of a downfall for HZ. A truly collaborative process, and in many ways a revolutionary score.

Yet, the silly sound design stuff started here which now makes him such an inadequate composer. No one wants a Hans score anymore (well except his usual collaborators). This will phase out soon and Zimmer will be another Faltermeyer and Moroder whereas he could have been a Williams.


Bibi2018-02-27 14:19:11
I pray to see "downfalls" like this one then !


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-27 15:02:36
Not me. (Although I'm not a big fan of this score either...)


Mike (OTM)2018-02-27 19:30:02
Any way we could make accounts on this site? I've had the same problem. I used to be pretty much the only "Mike" here, so I went by "Mike." Now I need a way to differentiate myself from some, uh....zealous fanboy Mikes. ;)


Olive 2018-02-28 00:01:08
For one second I believed in tjis comment! Lol This was made for a Balfe fanboy for sure.


Olive2018-02-28 00:02:30
I vote for personal accounts too!


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-28 00:04:30
It will happen with the new version of the site...



Please don't ask me when that's happening... Right Antas ? lol


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-28 09:13:38
Well that's good to hear! (Although I hope you keep your green text, Hybrid. :D )


isildur2018-02-28 11:23:42
Looks like all the trolls (or maybe just one, posting with different names) decided it's time to shift from Facebook to here. At least try to be a bit creative, all your posts are basically of same template.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-28 12:31:21
Bah... At least it's creating traffic on the site, defeating his purpose... lol


Medigo2018-02-28 22:44:33
I'd like it if I could at least keep my Edmunds straight


Ian2018-03-03 03:35:19
Honestly, I see a lot of merit to "Edmund"'s argument. Thematic content aside, Black Hawk Down has this really weird - shitty, frankly - blend of synthetic and orchestral content that just doesn't work IMO. Ironically, a score like Inferno does a better job at that.

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PABLO reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-10 00:00:00
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Mathis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
I really like the style of the music (especially track 01) where/how do I find more like it? what is the origin/style of it?

thanks a lot.

Mathis.

Mathis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
I really like the style of the music (especially track 01) where/how do I find more like it? what is the origin/style of it?

thanks a lot.

Mathis.

mikee bruno reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-20 00:00:00
very good , I also had to compose in a similar style and this track as been a good inspiration.
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Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-04 00:00:00
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Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-02 00:00:00
Please email me to ######
if anyone has any of the Black Hawk Down promo CD'S.Thanks !

sergio cardoso reply Replies: 0 || 2005-10-03 00:00:00
Hi, i dont speak english very well, but , i am braziliam and i woud like the emaill from Heitor Pereira, i want talk to him, about any musics by composed to him. Tanks!!

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