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I believe him as I didn't hear anything from Kraemer.I asked Balfe on Facebook if he used any of Kraemers theme and he said noI Know, Hybrid, just sayin' that i a fan of Benjamin Wallfisch's music Scores since lights Out to Blade Runner 2049 and i say this is another excelent Work from WallfischOne-worded track titles! Reminds me of early days of Media Ventures!<br><br>They sure tried real hard to keep spoilers out of these, didn't they? I suppose I'd take this approach over Latin or irrelevant names, though a little bit of pun and flavor wouldn't have hurt.So you can't wait to hear the score but you already say it's a great score ?<br><br><br>#inception
Another great score from Benjamin Wallfisch can't wait to hear the score & see the movie <br><br>Music By Benjamin Wallfisch<br>Additional Music By John Paesano & Adam Hochstatter<br>Orchestra Conducted By Tim Williams<br>Orchestrations By Peter Bateman & David J. KrystalWhy is people saying that Balfe kept some original music from Kraemer? I have listened to the whole score and I didn't found any quotes. Maybe in The Syndicate there is some kind of reference to Kraemer's theme but I don't really know.<br><br>And I have to say that I was expecting Balfe to shine on this one, but I ended up disappointed. There are some great action cues, and I like some things he does with the main theme like the use of choir, but the score as a whole feels like a reuse of many things I have already heard and ends up feeling repetitive and a bit boring. <br>And note that this is my opinion so don't jump into my neck saying this is the best score in the saga, because I think Rogue Nation is a really big step above this. I hope that at least it works in the context of the movie, which I suppose it does really well...Re-listening the score again...….Have to say, Lisbeth Scott's beautiful vocals are definitely one of the highlights. She's amazing. On par with Lisa Gerrard.<br><br>Speaking of, what the hell happened to MV/RC guys incorporating female vocalists in their scores? I've always loved that approach. But it seems that it kinda went away......replaced by more and more sound design! So except for this score (and Steve's Your Highness) is there a recent big MV/RC score that actually features female vocals? Maybe I'm missing some...…..I was wondering that is there a Hans Zimmer library you need to license from Remote Control.<br><br>I kinda saw a composer's Cubase setup and he labeled one of his folders, HZ STR, HZ BRS, and HZ Choir.<br><br>Does Zimmer have a brass and choir sample library you need to have a license for?Easy now Mr. Anonymous, no need to be so superior. <br>I looked up that tracklist, and couldn't find 'Tai Lung Escapes' specifficaly listed, hence asking. Closest there is 'Shogun Mongol Prison', but it's too short to be the whole scene.   <br><br>But I'll try to get a hold of that complete version somehow, looks super interesting.
Its just three short bursts of sound, really.Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention there's also a short track that plays when K walks through Las Vegas past the statues and beehives, but is not listed on the cuesheetIt should be noted that I think a few tracks like 'new model' are put together with the track that came before it on the CD.<br><br>Ossuary<br>Return to Sappers<br>Must Protect the Child<br>Bomb<br>Like a Real Girl<br>Luv in Apartment<br>Mesa Hijack<br><br>I think are the only real missing tracks, and some of them are pretty short anyway.I keep listening to "The Syndicat", which is what I assume to be the theme for The Syndicate. Honestly one of the better villain themes i've heard in a whileFlight has a new Andrew Kawczynski credit...We're getting there!
Yeah, you're probably right. <br><br>I guess I thought of it as a Powell cue mostly because between the two main composers, it matched more with his style than Hans', but yeah it's probably Jackman's stuff. <br><br>Either way, I love that track.Yeah<br><br>BTW, John Paesano is credited as additional musicI'm pretty sure that the majority of it is Henry Jackman (maybe with a bit of Hans). I don't get much of a Powell vibe off that particular cue at all.This film and score are ten years old! The first seven minutes of Hans’ New Batman Theme (A Dark Knight) are still one of my favorite individual Zimmer themes. <br><br>And the movie itself is still one of my favorites, comic book or not.I'm curious, who do you think mostly wrote 'Tai Lung Escapes'? <br><br>I've always loved that track, and always felt that it was mostly a John Powell cue, although that very dark first part could easily be Hans' work. I could also see it being a Henry Jackman cue though... I don't know. :p
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Hans ZimmerHeitor PereiraMichael BrookJim Dooley
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Black Hawk Down (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 186'20
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  1. Hunger (6:36)
  2. Garrison Briefing (4:19)
  3. Calm Before The Storm (5:04)
  4. Chant (5:44)
  5. Hostages - Pila Is Dead (5:01)
  6. Black Hawk Down (3:26)
  7. Moving Out (3:24)
  8. After The Crash (2:57)
  9. In School (1:28)
  10. Crash Site (5:48)
  11. Of The Earth (2:19)
  12. Roadblock (2:42)
  13. Super 64 Going Down (5:19)
  14. Cover Me (3:35)
  15. Ashes To Ashes (4:43)
  16. Leave No Man Behind (2:18)
  17. Overview (1:16)
  18. Draw Off Fire (1:23)
  19. Get Us Out Of Here (3:05)
  20. Rescue (8:02)
  21. Hold Your Fire (3:37)
  22. Garrison Requests UN Troops (2:37)
  23. Firimbi Interrogation (1:34)
  24. Pinned Down (4:35)
  25. Holy War (1:12)
  26. It's Nothing (2:03)
  27. Tribal War (3:08)
  28. Evac - Run To The Stadium (9:48)
  29. It's About The Men Next To You (3:10)
  30. Still (4:48)
  31. Hunger (Alternate) (6:36)
  32. Bakara (Suite) (3:14)
  33. Marketplace (Suite) (1:43)
  34. Chant (Suite) (2:34)
  35. Market (Suite) (2:46)
  36. Pila Is Dead (Alternate I) (2:22)
  37. Pila Is Dead (Alternate II) (2:22)
  38. Black Hawk Down (Suite) (1:39)
  39. Ascent (Suite) (5:36)
  40. Vale Of Plenty (Suite) (2:28)
  41. Synchrotone (Suite) (2:40)
  42. Tribal War (Album Version) (2:40)
  43. Monitors (Suite) (2:37)
  44. Super 64 Going Down (Demo) (3:44)
  45. Leave No Man Behind (Alternate) (2:22)
  46. Still (Reprise) (2:12)
  47. Mogadishu Blues (Suite) (2:54)
  48. Get Us Out Of Here (Alternate) (3:08)
  49. The Next Turn (Suite) (3:14)
  50. Leave No Man Behind (Suite) (6:19)
  51. Run To The Stadium (Alternate) (2:22)
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Guzz reply Replies: 5 || 2018-03-10 14:38:06
I've read an article about BHD and here a quote which amused me:

"The score being very experimental, Hans Zimmer was afraid there would not be much music suitable for a listening experience on compact disc."

HAHAHA, damn how time has changed. What are your fears now Mr. Zimmer, after you've killed the listening experience totally with your scores lately, like Dunkirk and all those Drone scores. In comparisson to your work now, BHD is a melodical and listening experience paradise!


Mike (OTM)2018-03-10 22:30:15
Well. You're not wrong.

I was noticing the same thing watching Black Hawk Down recently. Compared to his recent output, it's practically beautiful. And it has...ya know...THEMES. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-10 23:48:39
If you'd take Hans to his words, no music he ever wrote would have been released.


Olive2018-03-11 00:07:55
Hans is an advertiser. He is able to say anything to draw attention to his work! He has not acquired all the popularity he has for nothing.


Ian2018-03-11 02:05:01
Olive - I'm not sure I agree; I think Hans loves the attention, but he also seems to be more concerned with telling a good story than actually being, you know, right. A prime example of this is his "The Dark Knight movies were twelve years of our lives." when by every confirmable account he worked on them over a period of seven years.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-11 10:11:38
Hans gets mixed up with dates...

He's not like us, watching his career year by year... I remember in an interview he even had to ask his assistant Cynthia about what year The Lion King was done... He worked 8 years on TDK Trilogy... When he started to tell that story, it had been 12 years that he started... But he mixed up, and kept telling 12 years WORKING on it... lol

BHD Fan reply Replies: 6 || 2018-02-27 05:55:37
How does the "sessions" leak compare to this above tracklisting?

1. BHD.1M1/2/3/4 (5:58)
2. BHD.1M1/2/3/4Rmx (6:46)
3. BHD.1M1AL Rmx (2:15)
4. BHD.2M12 (4:30)
5. BHD.2M15/16B (5:21)
6. BHD.2M16A (1:46)
7. BHD.3M18 (11:22)
8. BHD.3M18w vox (6:41)
9. BHD.3M19Insert (2:17)
10. BHD.3M20 (5:47)
11. BHD.3M20Rmx (2:27)
12. BHD.3M20w Vox (5:47)
13. BHD.3M21 (3:18)
14. BHD.4M22pt1 2 (3:22)
15. BHD.4M23 (4:36)
16. BHD.4M24 (2:16)
17. BHD.4M24 New (1:54)
18. BHD.4M25 26A B (11:06)
19. BHD.4M25OvrLy (2:38)
20. BHD.5M27A (2:29)
21. BHD.5M27B (1:09)
22. BHD.5M28 (2:21)
23. BHD.5M28Rmx (2:17)
24. BHD.5M29A (1:24)
25. BHD.5M29B (3:10)
26. BHD.5M29BRedo (3:09)
27. BHD.5M29C New (1:14)
28. BHD.5M30/33 (7:02)
29. BHD.6M34 (3:36)
30. BHD.6M34ANew (1:23)
31. BHD.6M35 (2:48)
32. BHD.6M35BNew (1:59)
33. BHD.6M36 (2:03)
34. BHD.6M37 (3:38)
35. BHD.6M37alt2 (1:17)
36. BHD.7M38 (1:12)
37. BHD.7M39 (1:40)
38. BHD.7M40 (3:08)
39. BHD.7M40w xtras (3:08)
40. BHD.7M41/42 (9:49)
41. BHD.7M42 (4:22)
42. BHD.8M43 (3:12)

Most of the track times do not seem to add up and the sessions appear to be even in the wrong sequence. Anyone got any ideas? Are these cue numbers fake or something?


Mr Tweedy2018-02-27 10:25:45
You got the original version with sessions track names. The expanded score featured here is a re-organized version aimed for a better listening experience.
Nonetheless, both versions are still incomplete !


BHD Fan2018-02-28 00:00:41
So the one by Hybrid moves some tracks around?


Mr Tweedy2018-03-01 23:50:47
Well, I've been heavily involved in remastering unreleased scores with Hybrid Soldier for about 10 years.

The version of BHD showed on this page is my work. I edited some tracks together (such as 2m15_16B with 2m16A that were originally meant to be mixed together, while they were presented on the sessions in an almost unlistenable, non-chronological way), and I worked several days in order to get the best audio mix possible.

As we got many different sources for this score (sessions, various promos, soundtrack album...), I made a version that is as complete as possible. A few tracks are still missing from every version available.

So, no, Hybrid didn't move tracks around, that's me who tried to provide the best, most complete presentation of this score. And this is Hybrid who decided to showcase this version here.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-01 23:53:27
^

What he said... Even though, sometimes, yeah, I do move tracks around ! lol


Marcorea12018-03-02 02:27:41
I too made my own edit. Not complete but just an alternative listen using the tracks I thought was best. ‘The Mogadishu commemorative’


BHD Fan2018-03-03 04:19:59
Mr Tweedy thanks for replying. Can you give a rough breakdown of what tracks from the "sessions" correspond to your version seen here? You are right in that some of the sessions tracks are un-listenable and while I don't have the promos CDs and extra stuff, it'd be interesting to see how you came up with the version seen here.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 11 || 2018-02-27 13:53:30
This was in many ways the start of a downfall for HZ. A truly collaborative process, and in many ways a revolutionary score.

Yet, the silly sound design stuff started here which now makes him such an inadequate composer. No one wants a Hans score anymore (well except his usual collaborators). This will phase out soon and Zimmer will be another Faltermeyer and Moroder whereas he could have been a Williams.


Bibi2018-02-27 14:19:11
I pray to see "downfalls" like this one then !


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-27 15:02:36
Not me. (Although I'm not a big fan of this score either...)


Mike (OTM)2018-02-27 19:30:02
Any way we could make accounts on this site? I've had the same problem. I used to be pretty much the only "Mike" here, so I went by "Mike." Now I need a way to differentiate myself from some, uh....zealous fanboy Mikes. ;)


Olive 2018-02-28 00:01:08
For one second I believed in tjis comment! Lol This was made for a Balfe fanboy for sure.


Olive2018-02-28 00:02:30
I vote for personal accounts too!


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-28 00:04:30
It will happen with the new version of the site...



Please don't ask me when that's happening... Right Antas ? lol


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-28 09:13:38
Well that's good to hear! (Although I hope you keep your green text, Hybrid. :D )


isildur2018-02-28 11:23:42
Looks like all the trolls (or maybe just one, posting with different names) decided it's time to shift from Facebook to here. At least try to be a bit creative, all your posts are basically of same template.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-28 12:31:21
Bah... At least it's creating traffic on the site, defeating his purpose... lol


Medigo2018-02-28 22:44:33
I'd like it if I could at least keep my Edmunds straight


Ian2018-03-03 03:35:19
Honestly, I see a lot of merit to "Edmund"'s argument. Thematic content aside, Black Hawk Down has this really weird - shitty, frankly - blend of synthetic and orchestral content that just doesn't work IMO. Ironically, a score like Inferno does a better job at that.

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PABLO reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-10 00:00:00
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Mathis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
I really like the style of the music (especially track 01) where/how do I find more like it? what is the origin/style of it?

thanks a lot.

Mathis.

Mathis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
I really like the style of the music (especially track 01) where/how do I find more like it? what is the origin/style of it?

thanks a lot.

Mathis.

mikee bruno reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-20 00:00:00
very good , I also had to compose in a similar style and this track as been a good inspiration.
ciao

Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-04 00:00:00
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Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-02 00:00:00
Please email me to ######
if anyone has any of the Black Hawk Down promo CD'S.Thanks !

sergio cardoso reply Replies: 0 || 2005-10-03 00:00:00
Hi, i dont speak english very well, but , i am braziliam and i woud like the emaill from Heitor Pereira, i want talk to him, about any musics by composed to him. Tanks!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2004-11-28 00:00:00
IN ENGLISH PLEASE !!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2004-11-28 00:00:00
Cette version du score de BHD est assez décevante, d'une part parce que la plupart des morceaux sont de l'underscore, en bref, rien de vraiment nouveau et intéressant.
Beaucoup de morceaux sont des alternés de ce qui est présenté dans le film, on n'y entend pas le thème... :/
Un grand nombre de pistes sont présentes sur le site de jeff rona (www.jeffrona.com), le reste est repiqué du dvd ou juste des démos de Geoff Zanelli pour un projet similaire à BHD... à recommander pour les gros fans, sinon, passez votre chemin, rien ici n'est sincèrement convaincant ou justifiant la création d'un pareil bootleg... (fan made ?)

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