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The Sierra Leone track Andrew K posted (link below)...I almost wonder if that's how 2010s Zimmer would redo The Lion King. More bass, more minimalist, more Interstellar...but still with an African flare.Horner and many others with Star Trek is a good example too.Huh. Well, the music Andrew posted is nice."Don't believe everything you hear, son."what do you gyus think about this? <br><br>www . youtube.com/watch?v=9riigqWjovM
Hallo,<br><br>Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht älter geworden. Genial.<br><br>Gruß  <br><br>Not bad score.<br><br>But I prefer the other oneIsn’t that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?<br><br>For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80’s beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.
Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.
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Matchstick Men (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 131'19
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  1. Flim Flam (0:15)
  2. Ichi Ni San (3:03)
  3. Prizes (1:30)
  4. Victim Of Fraud (0:53)
  5. Open Window (0:57)
  6. Grocery Store (1:33)
  7. Losing The Pills (1:36)
  8. Shoes Off (0:19)
  9. Shrink (0:51)
  10. I Have A Daughter? (1:20)
  11. Suzi's Topology (0:50)
  12. Meeting Angela (2:27)
  13. Lunch (0:50)
  14. Frechette (0:53)
  15. Moving In (2:00)
  16. Obsessive Compulsive (2:05)
  17. The Club (0:43)
  18. Let Us Greed (1:17)
  19. Nosy Parker (1:35)
  20. Con Artist Teaching (2:05)
  21. Not Bad (4:31)
  22. Realizing (0:43)
  23. Scouting (1:48)
  24. In The Airport (0:55)
  25. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (1:36)
  26. Walk Him To The Plane (1:18)
  27. Airport Con (1:15)
  28. Do I Get A Cut? (1:40)
  29. Parking Escape (0:57)
  30. Angela Arrested Before (1:41)
  31. No More Cigarettes (1:18)
  32. No More Pills (1:29)
  33. Vitamins (1:02)
  34. Visiting Klein (1:45)
  35. Frechette is Shot (4:33)
  36. Heaven (0:45)
  37. Interrogation (1:27)
  38. Dear Roy (2:53)
  39. No Baby (1:53)
  40. Carpeteria (3:19)
  41. I'm Grown Up (1:16)
  42. Happy Ending (2:27)
  43. Waltz Suite (3:05)
  44. Flim Flam (Alternate I) (0:16)
  45. Flim Flam (Alternate II) (0:16)
  46. Ichi Ni San (Alternate I) (1:49)
  47. Ichi Ni San (Alternate II (2:55)
  48. Losing The Pills (Alternate) (1:35)
  49. Shoes Off (Alternate) (0:19)
  50. I Have A Daughter? (Alternate) (1:21)
  51. Meeting Angela (Alternate I) (2:31)
  52. Meeting Angela (Alternate II) (1:37)
  53. Lunch - Frechette (Alternate I) (2:33)
  54. Lunch - Frechette (Alternate II) (2/33)
  55. Moving In (Alternate I) (2:00)
  56. Moving In (Alternate II) (2:03)
  57. Obsessive Compulsive (Alternate) (2:36)
  58. The Club (Alternate I) (0:42)
  59. The Club (Alternate II) (0:44)
  60. Let Us Greed (Alternate I) (1:16)
  61. Let Us Greed (Alternate II) (1:27)
  62. Not Bad (Alternate) (4:31)
  63. Scouting (Alternate) (1:46)
  64. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (Alternate I) (1:37)
  65. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (Alternate II) (1:40)
  66. Walk Him To The Plane (Alternate) (1:32)
  67. Airport Con (Alternate I) (3:53)
  68. Airport Con (Alternate II) (2:00)
  69. No More Pills (Alternate) (0:52)
  70. Visiting Klein (Alternate I) (1:34)
  71. Visiting Klein (Alternate II) (1:25)
  72. Dear Roy (Alternate) (2:18)
  73. No Baby (Alternate) (1:59)
  74. Carpeteria (Alternate I) (2:32)
  75. Carpeteria (Alternate II) (5:06)
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Dr. Vinny G. reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-21 00:00:00
As an accomplished composer/musician/performer, I feel compelled to enter a comment. I saw “Matchstick Men” shortly after it was released on DVD. 2004, I think. And I write this as an individual whose brain has cataloged a SURPLUS of music over many years.

I remember distinctly watching the "making of matchstick men" where Ridley Scott gave Hans such a hard time about the score. And again, as someone who has such a catalog of music in the brain, I have found myself humming or whistling "THIS" score over and over in the last 4 years. With no likely end in sight. It's catchy. It's contagious. And it's my opinion. I even caved and got some ring tones. (Shocked all my colleagues.) I’m more curious to what the rejected scores sounded like. Maybe he used them for other films. Take that Mr. Scott!

Since, I have been more aware of Mr. Zimmer's works over the last 4 years and now I have a clearer understanding of why some of my favorite films (before and since “Matchstick Men”) are some of my favorite films, i.e. “Mission Impossible II” & “Gladiator”. Answer – “Zimmer scores”. And really, if you take away the score, "Matchstick Men" as a film, is average at its best. The score, is what makes this film. Period!! Maybe that's why Ridley pushed Hans like he did?

It’s no wonder that someone would create a web site of this like. As well, he is now someone I would like to converse and/or collaborate before I go to the other side. John Williams, take a vacation. There’s a new sheriff in town, and his name is Hans!!

Kindly,
Dr. Vinny G.
Rochester, NY
(Home to Hochstein and Eastman) schools of Music that is. &#61514;

Jack reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-01 00:00:00
Hi everyone! I've got this question: some days ago I was listening to this score and I realised that the first part of track "Weird Is Good" has a particular style, something I've only heard in Gotan Project's songs: so, Is that an omage by Hans Zimmer to this fantastic (IMHO) group?

thanks

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Ted reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-15 00:00:00
What is the name of the song that was playing when roy sent angela away with frank after the shooting?

BobdH reply Replies: 0 || 2005-08-27 00:00:00
Hmm... the only thing track 8 (Mines) makes me think about is Journey to the Line, from The Thin Red Line. Man, how obvious is it which track was the temp-score?!?

ABC reply Replies: 0 || 2005-08-27 00:00:00
I think the reason why Track 8 sounds like Journey to the Line is because it should sound like Journey to the Line --)

axel jespersen reply Replies: 0 || 2005-07-18 00:00:00
track 8 is what made the film what it is.

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