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1m1 Opening Titles 1m2S Music For Military Band 1m3 The Little Big Horntale 1m5 Algren Travels To Japan 1m8 Boot Camp 2m9 Scalping Technique 2m10 Just Shoot Me 2m12 Battle In The Fog 2m13 Captured 2m15 Sake 3m16A Algren Explores Village 3m17 Beating In The Rain 3m18 Intriguing People 3m19 Too Many Mind 4m20 Season's Pass 4m23 Ninja Attack 4m24 Every Soldier Has Nightmares 4m25 Farewell 4m26 Safe Passage 5m27 Haircut 5m29 One Mind 5m30 5m31C The Escape 6m32 Don't Go 6m33 Prepare For Battle 6m34 Wear This Armor 6m35 To The Battlefield 6m36 They Won't Surrender 6m37 Warrior Games 7m38 Archers 7m39 On The Battlefield 7m40A The Final Charge - Part A 7m40B The Final Charge - Part B 7m40C The Final Charge - Part C 8m41 Small Measure Of Peace
Hmm...not sure if tolling...or being legit. Never even heard the score, so can't say...
Is it just me or does this look...too short? Granted I haven't seen the movie in a while. It might have less music than I remembered.
Well there's no lengths, so we don't know. Is this macak guy actually had this, he'd have posted the lengths. So I've come to the conclusion....TROLLING. I've never even seen the film nor heard the music, so I'm clueless. But I've been told a reel is around 20 min of music
Sadly, I think you're right. It's fake.
Also, 5m30 is untitled. This is bullshit
lol, man, that jips us out of a possibly-better album cover.
I'm sorry, but when someone posts a track list with the modifier "just for the info" you know that they are spouting out a fat sack of shit.
@Mr. Charles: even though I believe this to likely be another troll, just because a track doesn't have a name does not automatically mean a track list is made up. It could just mean the track was unused, and therefore no decent names can be come up for it.
I trust the guy who posted the list at JWFan. Hope it is the real deal and that it'd surface soon. =)
I don't know why you think I'm "trolling". As far as I know all the tracklists posted on this site were legit, and I have never claimed I have what I posted. I just found the tracklist on the internet and wanted to share it here for the sake of information. That's the whole story. I have no reason to believe that this is fake because I found it on a website where it was posted amongst tracklists proven to be legit. But of course, some of you already know this is fake although you haven't heard the score nor watched the movie. Geez...
yeah i've also seen this list on that forum as well. although i have no way of telling whether or not it's actually legit. although i'd imagine the complete score would be...longer. and no doubt it'd be longer for the recording sessions.
macak, don't worry about it. you don't mean any harm. at least now, more people know about that website and maybe someone will get motivated to obtain more info for the complete/sessions... who knows. still, thanks for posting this
This shit's real. And don't hate on macak for sharing the info. Unlike the other assholes waving their "recording session" tracklists around like it's the hottest ticket in town, this guy is merely posting information that has already been found online prior to this.
Errbody chillll ;)
@Mitch: i agree--if he were trolling, he wouldve been waving this tracklist like a big dick and getting everyone all excited and rowdy. by the way how do you know this is real...?
Well if I came off as obnoxious I'm sorry, I just don't want to get my hopes up, I guess. XD
that tracklist ist without all the alternate and unused cues though, that's why its called complete, but it's not a session
I absolutely adore the way you are all CERTAIN of what you say about "sessions / complete / bootleg / promo / recordings"... xD
aaaahahahaha how funny
... not. -.-
Honest question, Hybrid: how do you differentiate?
what creg said.
I think he's laughing because you guys flip out every time a new tracklist of any score is posted......
Because sometimes these tracklists are legitimate.
Because there's NO suck categories !
You just have sessions recorded and then mixed.
Then, you get all of them or some of them, that's all. Most of the time several things are missing.
then why not explaining it from the beginning and not laughing at some guys who don't know about it like a prig.
seriously, that was a dumb-ass behaviour from you and unworthy for a hz.com worker!
if you want to contribute something to this site, then put some informations, explain others what you know and don't show with a finger to someone else and laugh about him!
Let me try (although I am not an expert):
Demos - the music from the composers computer. Created in the computer with the use of virtual instruments. May also contain recordings of some (usually stringed) instruments. The quality is not important here.
Recording sessions - after finishing with composing, these demos (computer mock-ups) get transcribed into sheet music. Then this sheet music gets played by a live orchestra in some acoustic hall (the recording quality is very important here). Also keep in mind that only films with big budgets can afford recording sessions (live orchestra).
Complete - it depends on what you consider complete. Some people consider recording sessions a complete score, others consider recording sessions + other music used as complete, like trailers, modified cues or maybe some other music not recorded by live orchestra.
Promos - used for promotional purposes. They "advertise" the composer to some directors, film studios and other people in film industry to whom the promo score has been given. They usually contain tracks for which the composer thinks are the best. Example: filing candidacy for oscar by giving a promo score to the members of the academy.
Bootlegs - fan-made versions of scores. They usually call them "expanded" and since they are not authorized by the composer, they can contain literally anything: the music from the official release, bad quality tracks ripped from youtube, music from DVD or blu-ray releases (they are usually accompanied with sfx), etc. Alterations, transpositions, modifications (like adding "epic drums" in order to make the track more "epic") and other immoral things may also be found. And of course, "mixing" two or more existing tracks together just to bloat the running length is very common. All in all you need a good ear to differentiate a good quality bootleg from a poor quality one.
The end :)
@Macak : Bootlegs are simply versions that are not commercially available / not meant to be available. This can be either expanded/complete/recording sessions. Once it's available on the internet, it may of course contain bad material such as DVD/BR rip with SFX, cues used twice etc... depending on the people putting their hands on it first.
I think there's a lot of fuss when it comes to the comparison complete score / recording sessions. Complete score literally means "all the music used in the movie", when Recording sessions are more about "everything that was recorded for the movie" (complete score + alternate material/demo music/trailer music/unused cues...), though I already got recording sessions that were labeled "complete scores" for exemple. I'd say it's the same thing, more or less.
I even have "complete scores" that are incomplete, but everybody labels them as complete as the most important cues are available on it !
I'm with Dawn on this one. Think about it, the recording sessions is when the entire orchestra sits and records all of the cues. It's a session. The complete score is strictly everything used in the film. Nothing more, nothing less. (More or less, anyway). The complete score is sourced from the recording sessions.
Example: Superman Returns. The complete score is 58 tracks, white the sessions has 75 tracks
then i dont know why this hybrid kid is lml'ing about our use of terminology when what i said, at least by your definition (of recording sessions), makes perfect sense.
and yeah, i go by the same definitions as you just explained.
I think hybrid soldier wasn't laughing at the terminology, but more about conjectures people are making based on a tracklist.
This tracklist might be the real thing, time will tell. Rare things will eventually show up. Try not to be too harsh about this hybrid guy, there are many things going on "in the dark of the web" and many people trading rare unreleased material. All the mysterious trading/sharing is necessary for things to spread, and we'll all have an answer soon or late.
on facebook, hans have uploaded a track from the last samurai. why have he done this?
a sign for an expanded release? just to look if there are any interest with that track and how people react? god please, release an expanded or an recording session. this score is just too beautiful to be only 59 minutes long :(
I do not think it is up to God to release an expanded or an recording session. It may not even be up to Hans Zimmer, himself. Who knows, in this wacky and crazy world?
You know, just because a CD's running time is shorter than that of the movie that doesn't universally mean they took lots of good cues out of the album. I have watched this particular film several times and, in my personal opinions, all the cues that stand out in the movie are either already on the commercial disc, or on Geoff Zanelli's website. Sure enough, I can think of some sequences in the movie with music not available at all, but can you name a particular scene with "beautiful" music that's not on the CD already? No disrespect is intended, of course. Just curious, coz I think this CD is easily the best album Hans Zimmer has compiled in his career.
i haven't analyzed the movie now for a long time, but what i would like to hear are the scenes where he remembers about the past, having those nightmares, the scene where he screams to have some sake, where he arrives at tokyo, the scene where algren plays with the kids that kind of baseball - there is a beautiful alternate ending, etc.
and who knows what alternate cues there exists... i just want to hear and enjoy it in his full-beauty.
the same goes to the thin red line. hans has written with his team more then 7 hours of music for this movie. and what did we get? a shame!
Why can't they just leak this already?? I imagine there's at least two hours of sound they recorded for this film, and that's discounting what they released commercially.
I would still pay good money for the sessions...why don't they just sell it online? Seriously, what's there to lose if they just sell all of it online for money...? I'd buy it in a second.
The answer is simple, Sean. Posts like that of yours are giving certain individuals the impression that this is one valuable asset that they can profit from. Who'd leak such a thing? So do us all a favor: PLEASE, stop complaining. Hopefully La La Land or another label can sort it out with Warner Brothers soon. Personally I'd rather wait longer for a nice treat from a record label than beg those elitist bastards for new music.
@Anonymous: I'm not complaining, I'm just asking why the record companies don't release it via iTunes or Amazon, since there's no expense for manufacturing CD's and the logistics for distribution. It's only profitable for them--I'm assuming that I'm missing a bit of info relevant as to why they don't do this. And just to clarify, I'd wait ten-plus years for a complete release before getting onto my knees and start pathetically pandering to "elitists" who dangle music over everybody's head because they feel that their little ego needs stroking and they like to think they're special.
why is everyone speaking about a recording session here? have i missed something? will this really come out? oh god please say yes...........
It is quite the exact opposite of everything that you just posted. Everyone is dreaming about a complete score for this movie due to the influx of so many other complete RCP scores. You have not missed anything--there are no track lists or even rumors that anyone has posted/discussed concerning a complete score for this movie.
Nope, nothing is coming out, unfortunately. Though I do wonder why this complete score/recording sessions hasn't been released yet. It's been around longer than the some other RCP scores that are supposedly somehow being released soon. Well, we'll wait and see.
yes very true. 8 years since i've seen this for the first time and fell in love with this beautiful music. 8 years... how time passes by.
i'm afraid we won't see anything. the recent leaked scores were because of jnh, but hz scores hasn't been leaked for some reason...
So then I wonder why a complete score or recording sessions for Blood Diamond hasn't been released yet, JNH did a fantastic job with that score. I hope it's released, soon.
I've seen the movie yesterday again and the music was soooooo beautiful. please please, release an expanded version =(
i think it will never come out. those elite people won't let it go.
how do i get in touch with those elite people?
You don't, that's how. Most likely, you may bump into one accidentally and they may or may not have what you're looking for.
God damn, I would PAY for those scores. Why can't they just release them... :(
i am with you man. Instead of those uncomplete crappy original soundtracks, just releasing the recording sessions. THAT is what fans wanting and they could earn a lot more money instead of those uncomplete ones -.-
Now, see, that's where you're wrong. Casual movie-goers, and casual listeners of movie scores far outnumber the folks like us. There is a much larger market out there for them--for those who just want to get a snapshot of the score and then move on. There are not so many people who want the whole complete score.
They would not earn a lot more money if they simply released recording sessions or complete scores; rather they would only satisfy a small minority of their followers. The larger scores would likely cost more than the typical $15 (U.S.) OST range, and those casual listeners wouldn't care enough to buy it. Hell, we probably wouldn't care enough to buy'em either; we'd wait for someone to upload it and share it for free. It's sad but it is the truth.
This is one of those times that a picture of an alternate parallel reality comes to my mind--one in which complete scores to movies are actually a common thing. Wouldn't it just be so cool if you could reach through a gate to another universe and get all the scores to fulfill your heart's desire?
> Hell, we probably wouldn't care enough to buy'em either; we'd > wait for someone to upload it and share it for free. It's sad but > it is the truth
Nice... if you are a fan you could at least buy them to support the artist and labels.
That's weird...you quote stuff just like someone I know...
Yeah, if money wasn't an issue, I would totally buy stuff to support the artists and labels an whatnot. Not that I really think money is an issue for me--I haven't had much experience in buying scores, if you know what I mean. As I said, this just isn't the world to be in if you're a person who greatly enjoys the full score to a movie.
"...this just isn't the world to be in if you're a person who greatly enjoys the full score to a movie."
Sad but true.
actually the composers are earning SO much money, so they don't care about a score release, when it comes to earn some money through those releases.
I don't ask for any CD release etc, but make them available through a download, like itunes etc. there are a lot of people who are interested in what was composed for the movie. all the ideas, variations, new stuff, etc.
it would be really a parallel universe, a paradise, if composers would release every work as a recording session.
but until the paradise comes... WE WANT THE LAST SAMURAI as a RECORDING SESSION.
why can't any of those "elite" guys have a heart for us =( pleaeese...
there is an expanded cue in the movie where nathan plays with with the children in the village. the ending is so beautiful, but not in the score cd. why don't we already have an expanded version of this?
it was his 100th score. so beautiful scores are only as originals out there, but no expanded etc.
would love to have a recording session of this, would pay good money for this!
So would I. I would pay very GOOD money for the recording sessions.
i've heard that a recording session will be out very soon.
keep watching. ;)
i've heard that people like to make up a bunch of bull-honky.
[don't] keep your hopes up.
[Recording Sessions don't just *come out*. They usually get leaked by someone who doesn't know what all is going on. People can't usually foresee when a full score is going to "be out very soon"--especially if it is from RCP.]
Oh... : Well could you tell me how exactly stuff gets leaked and where from? And what do you mean "by someone who doesn't know what all is going on"? I'm not 100% on how this stuff works when it comes to scores like these.
It is all very complicated. I still don't understand largely what all this means. However, if you are after a complete score to something from RCP, you are not just going to happen across it somewhere on the internet. They do not exist on the internet.
Sometimes a guy is given permission to upload a rare score by the superiors from whom he got it. Other times, a guy will share something he will think is safe to share, and then his superiors freak out.
There are many other people who frequent this website who could provide you with a much more solid explanation.
lol Yeah I see, if this was floating around on the Internet, I would have it by now :P I think you forgot to mention that the guys upstairs give the sharer a foot in the ass once they find the leaked material...hahaha Thanks though...I hope someone does leak it soon.
after King Kong and Pirates 4 Recording Sessions... it is time for THE LAST SAMURAI RECORDING SESSIONS! Come on guys, bring it oooon! :)
yes please, ... does that even exists?
sure. everything exists anywhere!
Yes, PLEEEASE a release for the recording sessions for The Last Samurai! p.s. Where can I find the Pirates 4 recording sessions?
As I mentioned for Dead Man's Chest, the On Stranger Tides Demos reside in the same place as the Dead Man's Chest expanded score. On a Shrine in your fantasies. Use Google, it's your best friend in this instance.
Ahh haha ;) Yeah I got it from that Shrine just a few hours ago. Thanks
@ Hybrid Soldier: Any chances on getting a recording session or complete score from TLS? Or maybe also The Thin Red Line? Shame that these two beauties didn't get that much love as many others. Maybe you can get again in touch and see how the chances are for these two? :)
I think Morris was some sort of overall music arranger, working on a LOT of cues, but mainly to add drums here, brass there etc... Because the "sound" of TLS is very close to King Arthur (which Morris co-wrote & co-produced) or recent Morris things like Pillars Of The Earth... ;)
Neely & Zanelli actually wrote cues on their own using Hans themes & style, even writing subthemes (like that Sake theme for Neely)... Ninja Attack is 100% Geoff...
You also have to keep in mind that all these guys (HZ, Geoff, Blake and a bit less Trevor) were working AT THE SAME time on POTC 1... Starting a cue for TLS right after finishing a POTC one... :P
Zanelli had two cues from TLS on his website : The Final Charge & Ninja Attack. A while ago, Blake Neely had a cue called "Sake" on his website and, if I remember correctly, it was the beginning of OST track 3.
As always, we don't know what means those credits, did Zanelli & Neely made those cues all by themselves or did they helped Hans finishing the job ? For exemple, Trevor Morris had a cue of TLS on his website, and he explained that this cue was all Hans, but he was asked to add some brass in the background... It's far from a "composing task" !
@Prott: Thanks for the info. I think I checked there, but it was a long time ago and I didn't know if anyone knew different. And I thought the same thing, that the part that is nearly identical to Pearl Harbor would have been collaborated with Geoff Zanelli. Oh well.
@Anonymous: I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you here. I love that part because while it sounds nearly identical it fits perfectly within the scope of the overall score and does not detract from the listening experience a bit. I agree that the album is perfect, but it's even more perfect with the full, film-version of the final charge.
was listening to the final charge today - what a horrible pearl harbor lift. It's almost identical to War in a certain section. Come on Geoff a bit of creativity please! Glad it wasn't on the album, it would ruin it as the album is such a perfect listen . . .
How do I go on about asking permission to use Hans Zimmer's music for a commercial I would like to make for my book? My book is on Amazon.com and is titled, "Afghanistan through an Infantryman's Eyes" . I am a prior Combat Veteran who has served in the United States Army for 6 years as an Airborne Infantryman. I went to Afghanistan for one year and I saw what I believe is God in the love I experienced from the Afghan people, and the beauty I felt in their land. The context of my book focuses on a soldier (Myself) looking for the truth in life--well knowing that truth can be created in the hearts and minds of people, by people. The music from Hans Zimmer fits my epic journey through life as I am in search for God. May I please use Hans Zimmer's music for my commercial for my book? Thankyou.