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Hallo,<br><br>Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht šlter geworden. Genial.<br><br>GruŖ  <br><br>Not bad score.<br><br>But I prefer the other oneIsnít that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?<br><br>For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80ís beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol<br><br><br>Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of soundsAnyone else think Hans knew about all the studio meddling during pre-production, the rewrites etc and walked away ? I mean, when I heard Elfman's score I thought it was generic and wouldn't fit the movie. Then I watched the movie and it fits well. The movie is just as bland as the music in the background.I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?After watching the movie, I just have to say it was okay. It had some great moments but for me it had also many problems. And one of them was the music. For most of the part it wasn't even noticeable and when it was, it was like random background music with no really emotion or heart.<br><br>BvS and MoS movies can be criticized for some things but the score is not one of them. The movie gave the movie a strong and powerful side, as well as a heart and emotion into it. In this movie there were so many moments that needed different score. <br>***SPOILERS***<br>Superman's resurrection needed the MoS in full epic form. Wonder Woman at the bank at the beggining needed her theme with the electric cello in full power.<br>The Batman theme at the beginning when he is after that Parademon.<br>We should have a really memorable theme for the whole Justice League as well as for each individual member.<br>The scenes with Clark and Lois at the house in Kansas and when his mother sees him, this needed the piano theme from This Is Clark kent or something like that.<br>And that final moments with Superman opening his shirt showing the Superman logo and then flying to the sky, we needed something like "What Are You Going To Do When You're Not Saving The World?" or "Flight" and not that unmemorable music we got.<br><br>I really hope that the petition of the Extended Cut of the movie made by Zack with Junkie's music gets to be released someday, but for now, I'm disappointed.
Sounds fun!!<br>Thanks for the linkAny ideas on the Chronological Order of the Tracks?<br>I made a start here...<br><br><br>Logos<br>Batman On The Roof<br>Everybody Knows - Titles<br>Wonder Woman Rescue<br><br>...<br>Icky Thump<br>Aquaman In Atlantis<br>...<br>1m1a Krypton (from Man Of Steel)<br>Spark Of The Flash<br>Friends And Foes<br>...<br>Come Together - Credits<br>Anti-Hero Theme - CreditsNo, they are the full score cues- as presented in the film. The presentation of the final three tracks on the first disc are edited down for timing.* I posted this at filmtracks and wanted to share it here as well. <br><br>Danny Elfman's comments are very disrespectful and so disappointing for a creative person to hear, especially for composers. Nostalgia is a big problem with Hollywood and it's a simple Jedi mind trick. It's slightly different, but the same meal over and over with different seasoning. Imagine if James Horner didn't get to write the score he wanted for Spider-Man? Or Zimmer had to use Elfmans Batman theme for the DK triliolgy or BvS? Or Shirley Walkers incredible Batman theme for Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Or Giacchino just used the original star trek theme, or the original Star Wars themes for Rogue One and created nothing new at all? How boring and uninspiring for the composers not being able to challenge themselves to create new original music.<br><br>Whether you like these scores or not isn't important, the pursuit to create something new is what drives a creative person and gives us freedom in choosing something to enjoy and not enjoy. I love the original Batman theme by Elfman but I love it in the Burton films. I love Zimmer scores for both the DK trilogy and BvS. I am happy I can enjoy both types of scores and films but there are those who don't and that's a great thing because that means we are not all the same and that brings variety of opinion and taste which creates real conversation and most importantly gives an identity to a project.<br><br>It's easy to go back to original ideas, but I respect the creators who actually take the risk and want to try and do something new. If Danny Elfman stands by his words he should have just used the original Batman theme from the Tv Show and film or the original Spider-Man theme. Oops he didn't and we got a whole new Batman theme and Spider-man theme which most of us love. Thank god he didn't stick to using the original themes. The Batman reboots and superman and Spider-man reboots are completely different takes on the characters and that's why they deserve their own new themes and soundscapes. The only time I think an original theme from a film should be used in a new film with the same characters is if it's actually a sequel or prequel connected to that actual original film. Re-boots should always have new original music.<br><br>In the end the comments from Elfman are simply stupid and uninspiring and it's definitely a hidden ego coming through I never new he had which is a shame. I remember what Zimmer said about Danny Elfman's Batman theme being a bit jolly, but that's not attacking Elfman at all, it's how he felt and heard the music and felt that that style wouldn't fit in the new batman films ect.. I have always found the original Batman theme a bit on the jolly side too and I love it because it nails Burton's take on the character and world. That theme is for Keaton's Batman, no one else's.<br><br>One final point, if we keep wanting to just revisit the past and hear and see the same thing over and over and not be challenged with new ideas, what a damn uninspiring and boring world of creativity we will live in.<br><br>All the best to you all!<br><br>so...based on what junkie says here, Elfman is basically just rehashing old shit, as well as other people's old shit....Unless you want to say he's taking his Batman theme into a whole different direction that he didn't really have a desire to do before...until now....<br><br>In that case, "whatever" is all I have to say.
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.That's unfortunate. With this score, I think it's obvious that the majority is Jablonsky, as it has a ton of elements from scores he's composed exclusively, but it would still be nice to know who did what, especially with the first and second films. Not sure why there's rarely any proper additional music credits for a lot of the RCP guys, especially considering Zimmer's credits are almost always complete. <br><br>However that cuesheet of the extended score is very interesting. Hopefully if it leaks, all those cues remain there.Damn that sounds different from Elfman's commentsThe funny thing is an interview he gave 1 months before being replaced... Saying pretty much the opposite of Elfman !<br><br>"Itís a massive undertaking. And I canít say anything about Justice League specifically, but Iíll tell you this, and this was exactly the same experience that Hans and I had when we did work together on Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Itís like when you see a movie like that, these iconic superhero movies, some of them have a 60 to 80 year legacy, multiple composers had a go at their themes, multiple filmmakers did their version of these charactersóitís very scary. You watch a movie and itís like, ďHoly shit, now I have to come up with something.Ē Youíve got sweaty hands and youíre nervous, and you talk about it over and over againóand I have exactly that relationship with Zack Snyderóand then Zack said, ĒThereís only one thing you can do, and that is embrace this character as if itís your own, keep it close to your musical soul, and just do whatever you feel is the right thing to do for this character.Ē Thatís the only thing we can do. Thatís what all these great directors did back in the day, and thatís what all these great composers did back in the day. It makes no sense for me to do extensive quoting of Hansí score of the really amazing Batmans. It makes no sense for me to quote Superman from John Williams. Because all fantastic composers, they all did the same thing, they did something that was close to their heart, and I have to do exactly the same thing on this movie. You know this is Movie Number 4 that Iím doing with Zack, so you build a friendship and itís built on trust and loyalty. You know how to challenge each other, you know what to expect on the other side, and itís this really open, amazing dialogue about where to take this franchise."I can confirm that he had already worked on it quite a bit, because he said so in one of his Studio Time episodes.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - The Curse Of The Black Pearl
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  1. Fog Bound (2:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  2. The Medallion Calls (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Ramin Djawadi
  3. The Black Pearl (2:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Steve Jablonsky
  4. Will And Elizabeth (2:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky, Ramin Djawadi
  5. Swords Crossed (3:16)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Steve Jablonsky, Geoff Zanelli
  6. Walk The Plank (1:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Ramin Djawadi
  7. Barbossa Is Hungry (4:06)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Geoff Zanelli
  8. Blood Ritual (3:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, James Dooley
  9. Moonlight Serenade (2:09)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, James Dooley, Ramin Djawadi
  10. To The Pirates' Cave! (3:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, James Dooley, Ramin Djawadi
  11. Skull And Crossbones (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Nick Glennie-Smith, Geoff Zanelli, Ramin Djawadi
  12. Bootstrap's Bootstrap (2:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Geoff Zanelli, James McKee Smith
  13. Underwater March (4:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Nick Glennie-Smith, Blake Neely
  14. One Last Shot (4:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  15. He's A Pirate (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt, Geoff Zanelli
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Feared reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-28 19:05:22
Does anyone know the name of the drum sample of electric drumkit that Hans & Co used a lot during the 90s, and it's in the beginning of Barbossa Is Hungry (around 8-9 seconds into the track).

... reply Replies: 14 || 2014-06-12 17:32:50
Hybrid, I was wondering if you know why Klaus and Hans are no longer friends... I guess they had a row of some sort, but what was it about? him taking over POTC?


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-12 18:40:48
Nope I think it was a 2005/06 issue, so long after POTC...


Scorefan2014-06-12 18:52:51
But what happen hybrid? which was the problema?


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-12 18:55:09
Don't know, but it wasn't just "HZ/KB", more like "KB/RCP"... lol


...2014-06-12 20:55:41
Oh I see.
It's unfortunate as Klaus was a great RCP guy!


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-12 21:08:33
Agreed...

His career after went terribly wrong (this is what happen when your first market is French cinema), but I still have hope... lol


...2014-06-12 21:15:39
Yes, let's hope he'll get to score some good movies in the future!


Ds2014-06-13 08:29:00
But now he's really one of the best and most-wanted composers in France, while in Hollywood he was just one among a lot of good composers...


RealFfingMusic2014-06-13 19:30:17
@Ds, No offence, but it seems like you're saying it's better to be king of jackals than being a lion of a big pride.

(Not insulting the french, BTW!)


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-13 19:31:19
I'm French... Trust me, it sucks... Big time...


Zimson2014-06-13 23:18:42
@Hybrid
Arte sometimes shows really good french films. Aside from that I don't know anything the french film industry produces, except for Asterix and Obelix maybe. However, if it sucks as hard as the German film industry I'm on your side.


Dudu2014-06-14 00:48:46
Wow...Hybrid. As a fellow Frenchman, you're a bit harsh don't you think??Movies like l'immortel, pour elle or a bout portant are far from sucking "big time" lol! okay, his career took a big shot after he left RCP, but the french movies are far from being the worst he has done!!

PS:I'll give you that, Asterix was a BIG mistake lol


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-14 00:53:03
Sorry Dudu I go to cinema around a hundred times a year, and I only see like 5 French films... lol


Ds2014-06-14 11:24:07
Hahaha Hybrid, and I'm sure these 5 aren't even good :p


Hybrid Soldier2014-06-14 13:00:56
We do good comedies in France... We really do, very funny... The problem is we ONLY do that... -_-

DanielW reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-02 23:34:38
Is there actually any sheet music (e.g. a piano roll) available for "Swords Crossed"?
Haven't found it so far...

Zimson reply Replies: 0 || 2014-03-15 20:51:51
Lol, the part around the middle in "Swords Crossed" sounds almost exactly as "Tribal Wars" from Black Hawk Down. Now I know who wrote it. :P

thejok3rrules reply Replies: 5 || 2013-08-02 04:53:21
Well listening to that, one thought comes in my mind: Zimmer's rescue mission failed, because thats sucks...


Mike2013-08-03 22:04:49
Listening to what, exactly?


MacArthur2013-09-12 20:07:39
So basically this score is Zimmer with arrangements by Badelt


Mike2013-09-12 21:00:36
Basically, yeah. In order of importance, it seems to be:

--Hans Zimmer (who wrote most of the music properly speaking, even though others were responsible for most of its arrangements within the film)
--Klaus Badelt (who arranged the music Hans wrote and was credited as the composer due to Hans' promise to do The Last Samurai.
--Geoff Zanelli (who did a considerable number of arrangements, including the well known "He's a Pirate", based off Hans' demo theme)
--Ramin Djawadi (who also did a considerable amount of arrangements)
--All the other guys, like Nick Glennie-Smith and James Dooley, who had a few cues


Mike2013-09-12 21:05:49
Although I'm sure that Hybrid, knower of all things Pirates, can amend my list if necessary.


MacArthur2013-09-12 21:32:08
hey you posted too many times.....XD

MacArthur reply Replies: 11 || 2013-07-31 00:48:56
I Just Know that Zimmer Wrote He's A Pirate and Swords Crossed. maybe some on track 1 but not any of the other ones.


Mike2013-07-31 01:50:33
He might not have actively been involved with each track, but almost the entire Curse of the Black Pearl score is based off his themes he wrote (such as the "Day One, 4:56 AM" demo and his Jack Sparrow theme). Hence, his name is attached to everything, because every track here has Zimmer's music in some way. :)


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-31 10:21:28
No, HZ worked on many cues...

It's not exactly a "classic HZ process" here, like every of his "rescue missions"... (and by rescue I don't mean replacing Silvestri, I mean rescueing Klaus........)

For instance the famous Moonlight Serenade scene (the big Black Hawk Down rip :D) is directly a HZ cue with arrangements by Geoff.


NM2013-07-31 16:09:25
Did Hans come up with the "Jack Sparrow" theme from this score?


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-31 17:14:21
Yep, and he doesn't even consider it a "theme", more like a "riff".

He wrote a proper theme for POTC 2... :)


Jimmy Smits2013-07-31 22:01:55
I always found it interesting that Klaus Badelt got 'top credits' for this score, and NOT Hans. Do you know why?


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-31 22:08:02
2 reasons :

- He was on The Last Samurai, so not supposed to do anything else.

- When he saves the ass of an RCP colleague, he doesn't get credit (The Rock being an exception).

:)


Mike2013-07-31 23:34:35
I wonder if a special edition of the film will be released one day, a special edition in which Hans gets composer credit.


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-31 23:35:59
No way... :P

But actually who cares what's written on a cover or an End Credits ?

As long as you know the truth... ;)


Mike2013-07-31 23:42:42
Indeed. I've always credited Curse of the Black Pearl to "Hans Zimmer and Klaus Badelt" on iTunes anyway. I also credited Inception and Sherlock Holmes to "Hans Zimmer and Lorne Balfe"... :P


Anonymous2013-08-01 02:20:26
Virtually everyone knows this score is really Zimmer material, despite the official crediting otherwise. :P


MacArthur2013-08-02 00:00:38
Agreed mike Zimmer did write all of the themes Badelt put them together

Ds reply Replies: 12 || 2013-02-01 21:20:04
I just re-watch this movie and i thought: what if the studio hadn't rejected Alan Silvestri's score?? We were really lucky on this :p


Mike2013-02-01 21:32:31
lol, Good point. Did Alan Silvestri actually write any music or was he chosen then left/was fired before doing anything?


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-01 22:52:11
Apparently Silvestri recorded a cue for the Moonlight Serenade sequence. Rest was all mock-ups and anyway, whatever he did write, good or bad, there was no doubt Bruckheimer would find any lousy excuse just to get Hans on board.


Edmund Meinerts2013-02-02 14:48:05
If The Mummy Returns and Van Helsing from around the same time are anything to go by, Silvestri's score would have been fantastic! Very different, of course, but probably really entertaining.


Trent Easton Navarro2013-02-02 16:41:57
As enjoyable as Badelt?Zimmer's score is, I think Silvestri would have written a great score for this one. Like Edmund said, The Mummy Returns and Van Helsing were pretty awesome, as were his previous scores for Verbinski.


Ds2013-02-03 18:53:34
Of course Silvestri's not a bad composer, but i'm pretty sure he would never have reached the level of epicness of the 2d and 3rd movies scores!


Mike2013-02-04 01:42:52
Not that this is related to Silvestri, but Dead Man's Chest didn't really feel "epic" to me. There were new themes for Davy Jones and the Kraken, and some new motifs for Jack Sparrow, but overall the score felt like a continuation of the score for the first movie.

But yeah...At World's End was really epic. :P


Mike2013-02-04 01:51:26
Of course, you're entitled to your opinion. You didn't ask what mine was, I just gave it. Sorry about that.


billy2013-02-05 15:46:52
Is the trailer music composed by HZ or Alan Silvestri? According to the trailer credits: "Music by Alan Silvestri", but the theme in the end is used by HZ for his Pirate's scores.


Hybrid Soldier2013-02-05 16:38:54
The trailer music is a Drop Zone cue by HZ. And Silvestri's credited cause the trailer is from before he was fired !


billy2013-02-05 17:06:43
Thanks!


Rate2013-02-07 10:32:39
Am I the only one that finds it ironic the trailer cue is by zimmer and before silvestri got fired? :P


billy2013-02-07 13:16:21
Maybe after the trailer they realized that Zimmer's music is more suitable for the Pirates' universe. Better late than never!:-)

Mike reply Replies: 8 || 2013-02-01 21:58:17
Ignoring the question of whether there SHOULD be a Pirates 5, does anyone think there will be one? If so, is it likely that Hans will score it?


Macejko2013-02-01 22:16:30
I think it's almost certain that Hans will score fifth Pirates. And no, there should not be any more Pirates ;)


Cloud2013-02-02 02:20:59
There's definitely gonna be another one, although there really shouldn't. And honestly, I don't even want Hans to do another one. I think he said everything he wanted to say with the trilogy, especially in At World's End, which was a great confluence of all the themes ideas from all the movies. The fourth movie was redundant in every possible way and so was the score.


Mike2013-02-02 03:17:34
I don't think there should be a Pirates 5, either, and that is partially because I doubt Hans would want to do it. I know Hybrid said all the temp music in On Stranger Tides was the director's fault, and I'm sure that's true, but it's a safe bet, I think, that Hans is ready to be done with these movies. In fact, he even said in an interview for POTC4 how you can only do so much with a given set of themes, and that he thought they were done after the third movie, and that he didn't even think there would be a second and third film--as in, he never really planned on doing any sequels.

However, that's not to say that I'd mind a score to Pirates 5 if Hans is able to come up with a good amount of new material, rather than being forced to temp the majority of the thing.


Racket2013-02-02 03:30:00
I don`t think so.


Mike2013-02-02 03:33:21
Racket, which part were you replying to, the question of whether there will be another movie, or the question of whether Hans will compose it?


Ds2013-02-02 12:58:08
There will be a new one, Disney announced it 2 weeks ago. It's planned for 2015 if i'm right. I want Geoff Zanelli or Lorne Balfe to score it, not Zimmer anymore. I like him a lot but we need some fresh air and a composer who really WANTS to do that!


Trent Easton Navarro2013-02-02 16:37:58
"I want Geoff Zanelli or Lorne Balfe to score it, not Zimmer anymore. I like him a lot but we need some fresh air and a composer who really WANTS to do that!"

As if Zimmer really would write all of the score himself :P He'll probably get the main credit, but his minions will do all the work ;)


Mike2013-02-04 01:54:52
I want Zimmer to score it if he makes new stuff. If not Zimmer, I think Geoff Zanelli, Lorne Balfe, and whoever else has worked on these movies should collaborate using Hans' themes.

cheesy reply Replies: 9 || 2011-09-22 01:23:10
This is the most random of questions, but is the "Black Pearl" theme (Swords Crossed, To The Pirates' Cave, ect) by HZ or Klaus Badelt?


Dimensioner2011-09-22 03:49:51
I'm not sure anyone knows that--but I could be wrong. This whole score sounds uniformly the same (redundancy, anyone?). I mean, yeah, I can recognize the different themes, but I couldn't say which themes according to their styles were written by which composers.

I do know that Geoff Zanelli likes to write tribal-type music like all the cannibal stuff for Dead Man's Chest, or the Morlock Attack from Klaus Badelt's "The Time Machine". Knowing this, I suppose I could pick out the pieces written by him for this score--now that I see what they are...alas, this is no help to you, cheesy.


Hybrid Soldier2011-09-22 13:34:41
Questions for me, Pirates specialist summoned !

You must know that most of the POTC themes come from... other films !

Anyway, HZ wrote most of the themes (all the Jack Sparrow themes, the main theme etc...)

I know for sure that Klaus wrote the "Underwater March" theme (which is basically from The Road To El Dorado) and the "dark" theme of the film (heard in Fog Bound, with the pan flute "tut, tut, tiiii tut" (lol).

Blake Neely wrote the theme in the "Liz on the Pearl / Parlay" sequence. It's not on OST but was on POTC 2's (and 3's) OST.

Jim Dooley wrote (with no credit... don't ask lol) the "Tortuga" theme which came back regularly in POTC 2 (he actually ripped it from a short film he had scored a couple of years earlier, Embryo).


Dimensioner2011-09-22 14:43:19
About the Parlay track, where did you get the name for it? (Elizabeth was never referred to as Liz in the movie.) On most if not all of the bootleg scores, it is named "Parlay" and I'm fairly certain that it originated from one of the DVD menus.

For the longest time, I thought it was a theme written for Tia Dalma, as that is the track it appears in on the PotC2 OST. But then I started looking at the first one's score, and found that theme there as well.

I'm pretty sure it is not on PotC3's OST. If anywhere, it would be in "Davy Jones, the Man" found on the 2CD bootleg that recently surfaced. Perhaps, you could tell me where I might have overlooked it--or if I am even discussing the same thing you are, Hybrid.


Hybrid Soldier2011-09-25 12:45:07
Listen closely people...

The very beginning (kinda military drum) of Medallion Calls is from Black Hawk Down.

The "Bill Turner" theme (sort of), in the same track, when Sparrow is watching the hanged skeletons, is a segment from Pearl Harbor's Air Battle.

The film's main theme (He's A Pirates) shares many notes with The Rock's main theme.

The "Underwater March" theme is from Road To El Dorado.

The segment at 0:37 of "The Black Pearl" is basically an arrangement of the guitar section in "The Battle" from Gladiator, and the rest of the cue have strong similarities with The Battle as well.

HZ's dark theme starting Swords Crossed is from Crimson Tide (Mutiny, the very slow background theme). And in the same track, the Moonlight Serenade section with Liz "touring" on the skeleton Pearl is just from Black Hawk Down (Tribal War).

The theme in Skulls & Crossbones is from Drop Zone (Too Many Notes...), and the basic rythm starting "To The Pirates' Cave" is from Drop Zone as well (listen the beginning of Miami Jump).

The segment starting at 1:08 of Bootstrap's Boostraps is from Broken Arrow, reprised in El Dorado (the Pirates one is really identical to the El Dorado variation).

And about unreleased parts, the short "Tortuga" segment by Dooley is as I said from a 2001 short film he scored, Embryo (check samples on Jim's website).

The beginning of the Pirates Attack at the end of the film, kinda suspence sequence, is just identical to a Peacemaker cue (Nuclear Foult...).

And I'm probably missing some...

Savvy ? :P


Dakota2011-09-25 14:37:21
Hybrid, thanks for all the informative information!!!


Anonymous2011-09-25 19:17:51
Suddenly my appreciation of this score is somewhat diminished!


Hybrid Soldier2011-09-25 20:28:16
Don't get me wrong, POTC is one of my favorite score of all time, I know almost every bit by heart. ;)

But this score was such a mess, done in 3 weeks (from the very first second of score to final mixing). No real options left... The result is surprisingly great ! xD


Phil2011-11-29 15:24:03
@ Hybrid

who are you, that you know so many things about Hans Zimmer and all the composers?
that's amazing!! :)


Mike2012-10-14 03:28:32
Actually, the LEGO Pirates game has credits for several of the Curse of the Black Pearl tracks in the credits, and Zimmer worked on all but tracks 1, 3, 8, 9, and 10 according to it. :)

Phil reply Replies: 3 || 2011-11-28 13:45:35
i don't understand why on the cover stands: Original Music Composed and Conducted by Klaus Badelt
Why isn't Hans Zimmer there mentioned?
i really don't understand, so please tell me!


Areozz2011-11-28 14:36:46
This looks like a job for Hybrid Soldier! I could try to come up with an answer but it would largely be BS, or my own opinion as to why that happened. I'll bet Hybrid could help you out.


tomPoland2011-11-29 10:07:55
Zimmer worked unofficially, had contract with Zwick and Last Samurai


Phil2011-11-29 15:20:57
Tank you guys...
you helped me a lot !!! :)

Kelly reply Replies: 1 || 2011-09-19 21:19:23
Here it is!
Disc 1
01. Fog Bound
02. Jack Sparrow
03. The Medallion Calls
04. Sparrow Escapes
05. Donkey
06. Swords Crossed
07. Nice Juicy Bone
08. The Pearl Arrives
09. The Gold Calls Us
10. No Luck At All
11. Skulls
12. Parlay
13. Jack's Plan
14. Commandeering The Ship
15. Tortuga
16. The Dark Ship
17. Barbossa Is Hungry
18. Moonlight Serenade
19. Ghost Stories
20. To The Pirates' Cave
21. Sea Turtles
22. Blood Ritual
23. Will & Elizabeth
24. Broadside
25. She Goes Free

Disc 2
01. Walk The Plank
02. Jack & Elizabeth
03. Bootstrap's Bootstraps
04. Jack's Proposition
05. Underwater March
06. Something Incredibly Stupid
07. Epic Battle (Part 1)
08. Epic Battle (Part 2)
09. One Last Shot
10. Ambush At The Gallows
11. He's A Pirate
12. Drink Up Me Hearties
13. Credits Suite
14. Pirates, Day One, 4:56AM (Demo) Hans Zimmer
15. Donkey (Alternate)
16. He's A Pirate (Alternate)
17. Pirates, Day One, 4:56AM (Album Version) Hans Zimmer


Anonymous2011-10-02 06:01:03
Yeah it's true

HZLeaks reply Replies: 3 || 2011-05-01 02:37:40
There is an expanded version out, seems legit, no SFX or dialog and good sound quality.


zach2011-05-23 19:42:22
forreal?


Dingmaster2011-09-11 04:03:26
Is there a tracklist you can provide?


Mr. Fate2011-09-11 04:15:35
No track list necessary. All you have to do is search "Curse of the Black Pearl Expanded Score" and you'll get literally like ten different variations of the score which all have been expanded by adding in music that plays on the DVD menus...Granted, you'll have to search around if you want them all, but they all contain more or less the same amount of music.

FS reply Replies: 1 || 2011-05-07 15:23:38
There is now a Lego game out for the Pirates Movies. The previous star wars lego games had some unreleased score tracks from the movies...so there can be hope that it is the same for lego pirates. Someone with a console should check that out :)


Music2011-05-23 17:58:13
Sadly, there's no new music.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-22 01:03:42
Anyone know if the cue where Elizabeth is captured and the raid on her town is available? I don't think it is on the "expanded" or soundtrack...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-13 00:00:00
Does anyone know if there are any commercially unreleased tracks on composers' websites or promos that I can listen to from this? The commercial CD just is not enough :(

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-03 00:00:00
Well The Rock is complicated in its own way as almost all the themes Nick had originally written got rejected and replaced by HZ's ! And then it was a mess with the help of many guys on the score (HGW, Don Harper, Steven Stern, Russ Landau...) !

As for the end of KB at (ex) MV... There's not much I know... It didn't end very well between KB and some of the other MV members... Let's say it was good for everybody that he left... Especially for KB, who ended up doing very well these days... ;)

yondaime reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-03 00:00:00
@ Hybrid soldier

this is similar to The Rock, which in my understand is Nick glennie smiths score, with help from zimmer and harry, but poor nick didnt get the recognition he deserves.

While we are at this topic, could you please tell us what happened that led to the kicking out of badelt from rcp, there are allot of speculations, has it something to do with that badelt didnt credit other composers such as zimmer and others for their involvement in the pirates score. Please i have been wondering about that for ages. please an answer would be great,

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-02 00:00:00
I'm really wondering if Badelt was so "off" with this project.
I think POTC is definitely a teamwork project. This is why it sometimes sounds as if each cue was from a different guy.
Zimmer had an involvement in the early stages of the writing process (themes and some arrangements), and you have Badelt trying to make nearly 2 hours of music sound as a whole, running from studio to studio, arranging some bits by himself.

Of course it sounds "zimmerish" because it's MV / RCP style of samples and arrangements, but it also has some typical "Badelt" manierisms. Honestly, the real credits in the cover should be :
Main themes : Hans Zimmer
Score supervisor : Klaus Badelt
Arrangements : The MV/RCP team

Oh and, Happy New Year ! ;)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-02 00:00:00
Yeah, I'm not saying KB didn't anything in there, and as I said, it clearly has a lot of him... But he acted more like a supervising composer with HZ...

He went from studio to studio to explain what was needed to Ramin Djawadi, Geoff Zanelli etc... Helped them choosing a direction, correcting what was wrong... And of course, he did several cues on his own, like the Fog Bound opening... Zimmer helped in the same way, for instance he reworked himself Jim Dooley's Commandeering The Interceptor (second part of OST's Blood Ritual).

But there was such a short amount of time, only 2 weeks to write, that it was nearly impossible for the guys in charge (meaning HZ & KB) to do a lot themselves and make sure everybody was doing good... A bit more than 100 min to write is a lot... And I'm not talking about the last minutes reworks, with stuff edited, overdub production and all... Such a mess !!!

So, to be fair, the cover would have needed Music by Hans Zimmer & Klaus Badelt... ;)

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-01 00:00:00
@Hybrid Soldier
Interesting. Well thanks for the info. I always find it interesting to learn all i can about the soundtracks I own.

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-01 00:00:00
Hybrid, thanks for the information. But if you don't mind my asking, what were the legal reasons for keeping Zimmer's name off the score? I always was wondering about these soundtracks. So basically all of the Pirates scores are Zimmer's? I would be interested to know what kind of influence Badelt really had on the Gladiator score. Maybe you could put that in your next post in that epic Tracklist thread in the forums, Hybrid. Well, nonetheless, thanks for the info and I'll be interested to hear your further responses. Thanks.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-01 00:00:00
Hybrid, I would like to get in contact with you. Can you drop me an email at garnettzack@yahoo.com
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-01 00:00:00
Brad, Hans wrote almost all the main themes... He's A Pirate, Medallion Calls, The Black Pearl, One Last Shot...

I can only think of the dark theme for the Black Pearl being Klaus...

HZ did all the tunes there, chose what should be used as samples an general orchestrations... So it's basically his score...

All the additional music guys helped a lot arranging it, and let's KB was more in charge than them... His influence remains important in this score... But ironically, scores he didn't get a lot of credit for, like Mission Impossible 2 or Gladiator, were actually more his than POTC... :P

HZ didn't get credit for legal reason (The Last Samurai) so didn't put his name on it, but it's his score anyway...

And for the sequels, KB just didn't work on them at all, but got some official credits on several stuff reused from the first film...

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-01 00:00:00
Alright, I'm not one for stirring up controversy, but I just thought I'd ask while I was thinking about it. This is a question for you Hybrid: How much of this score is Hans Zimmer? And why is Hans Zimmer listed as the official "composer" above and Klaus Badelt as "additional music" when Badelt gets the official title in the film and on the soundtrack? Is this score really Zimmer's or did Klaus Badelt have more influence on the other two films than is listed? Thanks so much for the help and I look forward to hearing what you have to say.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-01 00:00:00
Well it's just he had a contract to score The Last Samurai, and promised Ed Zwick & Tom Cruise he would completely focuse on their score, not moonlighting on another score... So he did Pirates "secretly"...

Of course, the joke didn't last long, and when POTC came out, Cruise came to HZ to say "Good work on POTC ;)" ! Busted !!! :)

Dimitris reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-13 00:00:00
One Word!!!! EPIC!!!!

mokhtar reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-03 00:00:00
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mahmoud_oran reply Replies: 0 || 2009-12-24 00:00:00
Very nice site! good luck in the future

Pharmg784 reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-23 00:00:00
Very nice site!

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