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One of this score's best and most underrated moments, especially in the context of the film, is the introduction of the Kraken's theme in "Row to Tia Dalma". The tense buildup while Gibbs describes the creature's horrors, then the brief pause as he names it, followed by the theme in the absolute lowest registers of the orchestra, quiet, but so so so menacing and also just SUPER FUCKING COOL.<br><br>It gives me goosebumps every time, in a *dialogue scene*. That is incredibly good musical storytelling.Edmund: And posted their one-sentence review of it on the Hans Zimmer fan site.Anything missed from the official release?oh damn really? huh that would be cool. even with the ultimate edition there’s still deleted scenes and I wish they were put on the Blu ray.<br><br>it plays during the scene after the knightmare when Clark is looking through the polaroids that say judge jury executioner on them. i don’t remember if that’s an extended scene or not as I’ve only seen the theatrical cut once in theaters. one and done lol"Chicken Run really makes you FEEL like you're in a concentration camp." - IGN
I guess it comes from a deleted scene where Jesse Eisenberg gets playful with his dinner. Rumor has it it's gonna be included in the Snyder Cut.I love the notion of Barack Obama and IGN teaming up to review 20 year old film scores.Smoothly done soundtrack. IGN - 10/10what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.
Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time lately
Ok, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happyI lowkey think James is gonna score the Black Adam movie. it's the same director from Jungle Cruise so I'm sure he'll be brought along for it
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Knight reply Replies: 0 || 2020-11-17 14:27:23
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superultramegaa reply Replies: 13 || 2020-03-05 18:05:36
I think Steve's creative fire is gone. Every new release by him just has this air of "this is for a paycheck and nothing else." I know as composers they are work for hire, but usually there's an element of tangible care put into music.

Sure he'll say in interviews why he thought a movie he worked on gave him a great pallet to work with, but just listening to his modern work, it seems like he's been drained of any passion.

Maybe TF5 broke the camel's back, because of the way the score was butchered along w/ the film in editing. I do remember him being frustrated in interviews over how much of a mess the score's production was.

I don't blame him. If someone took melodies I composed & put my heart and soul into, and barely used/chopped them in the film or covered them up with the sound effects, I might just settle for sound design scores from then on too. That way you don't have as much attachment if the score is butchered.


MrZimmerFan2020-03-05 18:56:14
TF5 is not Spenser Confidential, is not the same thing.

If Peter Berg asked for something like sound design (the score is pretty disappointing, yes), that deliver that for the director, not because is frustated for other movie.

Not every composer have 5 masterpieces or good scores in one year. ;)


dingelding2020-03-05 18:59:19
In my eyes, you're all doing him wrong. Jablonsky never changed his style. But you are so boring and always want to have a Transformers-like score. Before Transformers, he used to make music with synthesizers and I think he can do it. He reinvents himself and doesn't always use the same samplers. Occurs but not as extreme as some others. Clearly it was a disappointment with the Transformers 5 that not all of its music was in the film and was changed. But nothing new! It has appeared in so many films! Even with the previous films in the Transformers series. Some pieces were not used completely or only appeared in the following film. Deepwater Horizon has a great score that just sounds a bit neutral and takes up the happenings atmospherically. Which fits very well! Likewise with Skyscraper these horny deep string sounds. Bloodshot never looked like a kindergarten Marvel movie or a DC movie to me. If Vin Diesel participates, it is known that he is invincible. Come on Bad Ass music. I've been a big fan of Jablonsky since his first Texas Chainsaw Massacre score. I couldn't say that he has let up. I don't always need music with a 100 man orchestra. Although I think that he relies on everything at Bloodshot. I like the guitars as much as the synthesizers. If the name Hans Zimmer were there some would say "What a masterpiece!" Like the poor Dunkirk Score or the not outstanding Inception Score. Likewise your super exaggerated hyped Lorne Balfe which I would rather hit one on the mouth. Because it is light years away from memorable music! BUT that was already the case when he composed the additional music. If I consider what Jablonsky, Harry Gregson-Williams, Geoff Zanelli etc. did as additional composers. Then there is a mess that Balfe has always been involved in the music of Michael Bay films. I'm getting sick! Steve Jablonsky has worked on Michael Bay films since 1998. Since 2003 he has been composing scores for the horror remakes. Since 2005 he has been the main composer of Michael Bay films. The fact that not every Jablonsky score is a hit is clear, but not very bad either. Like now Friday the 13th, I didn't have to have a score from. I also think it's good that Steve Jablonsky isn't just attached to Michael Bay. But also works with new directors. very good cooperation with Peter Berg. What about his score for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Out of the Shadows ?! Great work! Great theme for the Turtles! I liked it more than Brian Tyler's work on part one. Although I'm also a big Brian Tyler fan. I'm looking forward to the Spenser Confidential and Red Notice scores, and many more. But to assume that he would have lost his inspiration is already awesome. Just because he took a little time out for his children.


MrZimmerFan2020-03-05 19:09:57
@dingelding:

Actually, i never minded his work with sound design (The Island or Battleship, altough, never top his work in the Transformers series or Your Highness, only Age of Extinction was dissapointing), but Spenser wasn't good, specially with you compared with Skyscraper (is a much better score, altough is pretty ok to me) and Bloodshot (is a much better score than Spenser, and far more Jablonsky-esque)

Shit, even i think Gangster Squad and Pain & Gain are much better than Spenser


superultramegaa2020-03-06 00:53:44
@dingelding

First of all, I don't want nothing but Transformers. I would've preferred if Jablonsky stuck closer musically to things like Steamboy, Your Highness, or D-War. Second, I'm ok with synthesizers. Halo 3 ODST, Halo Reach, or the Batman Arkham series use them in very creative & organic ways.

However after listening to Spenser, it sounds like nothing but generic-o's, non-descript, studio/trailer/commercial music. Not only that, but the synths are mostly ugly/distracting and take away from the score, the horns (and the entire orchestra) are garbled because of how heavy the electric instruments are emphasized in the mix, and the guitars are performing simplistic & uninteresting patterns.

Plus any themes that might be in here, or so minimalist it doesn't matter. Bloodshot at least had tangible melody. However, I agree w/ @MrZimmerFan that the overall sound falls on Peter Berg's hands and not Steve Jablonsky, but it's annoying that we haven't had a standout score from the guy since 2017 at best.

P.S. @ dingelding
For the love of god space out your thoughts into paragraphs. Your comment is awful to read.


Brent2020-03-06 10:54:43
I am perhaps one of the biggest Jablonsky fans there is, but I do have to agree. This score is bland and is simply uninspired. However, I think it has more or less to do with the types of films he’s choosing to do more so than any draining of creativity. These last batch of films (Spenser, Bloodshot, Skyscraper, Game Over) have all been generic action thrillers with little to no substance. It’s an almost “been there, done that” approach. So, creatively, what is there ultimately to draw from?

I kind of liken this to the Gregson-Williams thriller scores verses everything else he’s done. His thrillers are {mostly} bland, uninspiring works that leave little to be desired, but most everything else he’s done is superb. I think this just shows that Steve needs a good push in a different direction. I mean, can we hand this guy another animated film already?!?!

I hope to God Red Notice gives Steve a little more to chew on (being so high profile and Netflix’s most expensive investment so far).

I also want to acknowledge the fact that Michael Bay is probably the culprit of Steve’s descent into playing it safe more than anybody. Like other people have mentioned, I can’t begin to seem to understand how he felt after something he worked so hard on (and the “grand finale” of a major series nonetheless) got oh so butchered. I mean, look at Balfe’s latest example. There was so much blatant temp tracking and straight up copy/paste jobs in 6 Underground, it was almost completely devoid of anything resembling creativity (and this is coming from a guy who seriously loves 13 Hours).

All this to say, I will continue to be a strong supporter of Jablonsky and am looking forward to what’s next. :)


Bayhem2020-03-06 11:58:25
I can’t begin to seem to understand how he felt after something he worked so hard on (and the “grand finale” of a major series nonetheless) got oh so butchered.
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Wait, wait, wait...

I keep hearing from the same few folks here how "bad" Steve felt after TF5. Where exactly did you get this info? I follow Steve everywhere on social media, I've seen all of the interviews he's done and he never complained or acted weirdly about it.

Yes, he did talk about TF5 and some editing decisions but it was all in good spirits and certainly not something we haven't seen before. Keep in mind: he did FOUR TF movies before TF5. The TF2 schedule/editing process was a nightmare and Steve never complained.


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I also want to acknowledge the fact that Michael Bay is probably the culprit of Steve’s descent into playing it safe more than anybody.
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That is not a serious statement, my friend.

It is quite ironic actually, considering the fact that the most beloved and popular Steve scores are his scores for the Bay movies. Hell, even the "butchered" TF5 score is incredibly popular and there are several awesome tracks.

So let's not blame filmmakers who have nothing to do with Steve's recent work. You want to blame someone in this case? Blame Peter Berg.

He's the one who FOR YEARS have been pushing Steve to do "sound design" scores. Exactly the types of scores people complain about here...


Hybrid Soldier2020-03-06 12:48:22
Game Over, Man!, Keanu & TMNT 2 are absolute fun scores (TMNT 2 is probably one of my very favorites of Steve). Don't judge him only by what gets a soundtrack release.


TF5 was not a "nightmare", it's just that at the very end it got super frustrating that they had to reedit the movie so much and it was very complicated for him to meet the deadline so he called LB for help. But that was the same in TF3. Difficulties on Bay projects is simply a tradition. TF2 was complicated, but by then he was still at RCP so when you have a problem just knock the next door and Hans is around. TF1 was probably the most complicated of all but for very different reasons that had nothing to do with the film production itself or Michael Bay.


Knight2020-03-06 13:18:27
Can't exactly judge him by scores no one's able to listen to outside of the film either :p


Bayhem2020-03-06 14:40:34
TF5 was not a "nightmare", it's just that at the very end it got super frustrating that they had to reedit the movie so much and it was very complicated for him to meet the deadline so he called LB for help. But that was the same in TF3.
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Exactly!


MrZimmerFan2020-03-06 17:04:24
Saw the movie, and give to credit to Steve (and Berg), the score works well in the movie, yeah, lot of synthetizers and guitars (and disorted sound design for a much darker sequences), but accomplish the tone and Walhberg's character (plus, you get in the album the theme for him).

But still, i prefer Bloodshot over this.

PS: TMNT 2 is a blast


rockhound2020-03-07 22:58:23
I also have to say, that the music works in the movie good and is a nice combination with the songs. But nothing in this music says....this is Spenser Confidential. It has no own identity. Same goes with the last 3 Peter Berg movies. I guess Steve writes these scores for Peter Berg, because he just likes to work with him. The movie was also good. A nice little crime movie with a sloid story, down to earth action and good characters. But i hope Steve finds a movie soon again, where he will be asked to get more creative again.


Everan2020-09-01 20:36:52
Steve just released his website, he has some unreleased tracks from Keanu and so on. I'm currently listening to Origin Story tracks and they are gorgeous, way different to what he does with Berg and sound design-ish scores. Steve still has it.


superultramegaa2020-09-01 23:33:05
Yeah, some of his unreleased stuff he put on there is interesting. A lot of the Game Over, Man! tracks are pretty fun ("Ear Sandwich" in particular), and Origin Story is a nice throwback to his Desperate Housewives style, but there's not a lot of great melody in there.

Game Over, Man! at least has an ok hero theme/anthem, but not much else worth noting, and Origin Stories' melodies feel pretty basic and more like arpeggios disguised as melody. Better music overall on those 2 small albums, but still a little bare feeling.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2020-03-05 14:08:30
Up in Itunes NZ

https://music.apple.com/nz/album/spenser-confidential-music- from-the-netflix-original-film/1500496292

superultramegaa reply Replies: 2 || 2020-03-03 00:42:47
Don't have much expectations for this one after Bloodshot, but I'm rooting for Jablonsky as always.


MrZimmerFan2020-03-04 17:55:03
Maybe i gave him more credit than that score deserves, but i have more enjoy with that, than with Skyscraper.


dingelding2020-03-05 03:13:47
YEAH GREAT JABLONSKY LOVE BLOODSHOT AND SKYSCRAPER!!!!!

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 0 || 2020-03-02 22:46:37
Wow, I Can't wait to hear the score and see the film in netflix this friday.

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 0 || 2020-03-02 22:46:29
Wow, I Can't wait to hear the score and see the film in netflix this friday.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2020-03-02 20:31:47
I can't wait

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