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would love to help out, but the video/track is blocked :/Think about Gemini Man, the score come out the same day as the movie (in that case, 11th October), and the details come the same week.<br><br>We'll likely get final details towards the end of the week or early next week. I guess I'm just a little surprised that it's taken this long. The movie had surprise screenings either yesterday or the day before, so it seems like everything's pretty final.Sorry, that is the wrong link above (film version)<br><br>This is the track I'm talking about. Does anyone recognize this version.<br><br>https://youtu.be/etkri6OKLpEThere is an expanded score album with the track called "Sniper/Border Post". It is different from the piece used in the film. Does anyone know the true identity of that track. I like the synth sound and the male vocal singing/wailing/crying in this cue.<br><br>https://youtu.be/DbENmej_cH0
But the scores comes out in 1th NovemberThe movie is out this Wednesday in some territories."In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is UNMEMORABLE"<br><br><br>Aaaaaaaaaaaaand your whole analysis falls flat right there ! :PThanks Edmund.<br><br>@PaulH I am not meaning to say that Balfe cannot compose good music. There are compositions that I like: the Picasso theme is creative and well-written. Just that I find his arrangements of others more compelling usually than his own material.<br><br>An example that is good of this is kung fu panda. His arrangements of themes are really fun and energetic. In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is unmemorable. Contrast to Hans: the Po theme and Spirit theme are precise, fun, harmonically clever, and memorable. But his score cues sometimes feel lacking: his transitions are clunky, the bridge material is uncreative and basic. <br><br>It must be so much fun to work on those projects together. Coming up with idea and hearing what someone can turn it into, or getting to play with someone's idea without the pressure of starting from scratch.And also, be prepared for more Studio Time for the score
Tom said in his Twitter: 'Details very soon'<br><br>Altough, is only a week awayThe Nils Frahm track was released years agoNo one is mentioning "Says" from Nils Frahm. What a masterpiece of music. Love how it develops and getting so emotional even with that futuristic sound-effect. One of the highlights of this score, with those tracks Cerbei mentioned.Balfe is a great arranger but an even better composer.Beyond Two Souls is still one of the best game soundtracks.<br><br>I must have watched another movie in regards to Balfe filling in the gaps - that makes no sense?The soundtrack released seems not to relate to what was actually used in the film.Balfe “gap” music is featured much more and works brilliantly<br>
Last night I was talking to Lorne, and he told me that in principle there is intention to release the full score.I'd be very interested to hear the supposed Balfe complete score to picture where he apparently sought to elevate it, as someone here put it. The Richter is pitch-perfect and works massively well to picture and, not dissing Balfe at all, his stuff is literally 'additional music' to fill the gaps.Aplusle, that's really well put actually.Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?
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Additional Music - Orchestrator
Mark MancinaDave MetzgerChuck ChoiDon Harper
ComposerAdditional MusicScore ProducerConductor
Training Day (Complete Score)
Label: Promotional Release
Length: 100'00
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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CD1
  1. Welcome To The Jungle (4:41)
  2. Homes, Play With Us (5:39)
  3. Life's A Trip (2:36)
  4. Chase On The Roof - Fight With Alonzo (Alternate) (3:00)
  5. Jake's Fatigue (1:35)
  6. Crackin' Nuts (1:59)
  7. Roger (3:14)
  8. As The World Turned (1:54)
  9. Drive To Smiley (1:19)
  10. Car Surfing (1:02)
  11. Going After Sandman (1:29)
  12. Death Is Certain (Alternate) (1:27)
  13. The Appointment (1:12)
  14. Death Is Certain (1:10)
  15. Training Day (2:41)
  16. A Little Ambush (2:22)
  17. Wolf Against Dogs (3:32)
  18. Wolf Against Dogs (Alternate) (3:20)
  19. End Titles (2:58)
  20. Interrupting A Ditch - Party (1:54)
  21. Alonzo (2:35)
CD2
  1. Alonzo (Reprise) (2:34)
  2. Alonzo (Reprise Alternate) (2:34)
  3. Father & Son (1:20)
  4. The Scenario (5:46)
  5. Green Light (3:26)
  6. Green Light (Alternate) (3:25)
  7. I'm Here For Alonzo (2:48)
  8. Preserve Life (3:43)
  9. This Is The Game (Fill-In) (0:30)
  10. This Is The Game (Conclusion Alternate) (0:31)
  11. This Is The Game (Conclusion) (0:33)
  12. Death Is Certain (Alternate II) (1:22)
  13. Scoring Sessions I (1:42)
  14. Scoring Sessions I (12 Reprise) (0:34)
  15. Scoring Sessions II (1:01)
  16. The Office (0:49)
  17. Smiles & Cries (2:02)
  18. This Is The Game (4:04)
  19. Traffic Jam (Alternate) (0:54)
  20. Money (2:43)
  21. Timeless (0:29)
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Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-12 18:47:49
Finally listened to the whole score. It's funny, it's not the type of score that "pops out" in the movie, there are no "epic" cues, but when you actually listen to the whole thing separately from the movie, it's an exceptional piece of work. IMO, one of Mancina's best scores. Easily.

And it's the type of score that we rarely encounter nowadays. Sadly. And I will say that if you are tired or if you flat-out hate the "sound design" scores that we see everywhere now, then Training Day is for you. Give it a listen : )

takehiro reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-07 00:00:00
Sadly, NOT the complete score. I think four cues are missing (by another composer?) and Fight with Alonzo has the end crudely cut off.

daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-09 00:00:00
tanks

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-27 00:00:00
CD 1 :

1. Welcome To The Jungle (4:41)
2. Homes, Play With Us (5:39)
3. Life’s A Trip (2:36)
4. Chase On The Roof – Fight With Alonzo (Alternate) (3:00)
5. Jake’s Fatigue (1:35)
6. Crackin’ Nuts (1:59)
7. Roger (3:14)
8. As The World Turned (1:54)
9. Drive To Smiley (1:19)
10. Car Surfing (1:02)
11. Going After Sandman (1:29)
12. Death Is Certain (Alternate) (1:27)
13. The Appointment (1:12)
14. Death Is Certain (1:10)
15. Training Day (2:41)
16. A Little Ambush (2:22)
17. Wolf Against Dogs (3:32)
18. Wolf Against Dogs (Alternate) (3:20)
19. End Titles (2:58)
20. Interrupting A Ditch – Party (1:54)
21. Alonzo (2:35)

CD 2 :
1. Alonzo (Reprise) (2:34)
2. Alonzo (Reprise Alternate) (2:34)
3. Father & Son (1:20)
4. The Scenario (5:46)
5. Green Light (3:26)
6. Green Light (Alternate) (3:25)
7. I’m Here For Alonzo (2:48)
8. Preserve Life (3:43)
9. This Is The Game (Fill-In) (0:30)
10. This Is The Game (Conclusion Alternate) (0:31)
11. This Is The Game (Conclusion) (0:33)
12. Death Is Certain (Alternate II) (1:22)
13. Scoring Sessions I (1:42)
14. Scoring Sessions I (12 Reprise) (0:34)
15. Scoring Sessions II (1:01)
16. The Office (0:49)
17. Smiles & Cries (2:02)
18. This Is The Game (4:04)
19. Traffic Jam (Alternate) (0:54)
20. Money (2:43)
21. Timeless (0:29)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-26 00:00:00
Antas, I have the tracklist for this one, I'll give it later...

;-)

Zedman reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-20 00:00:00
"--Training Day"-- marque la maturité sinon artistique de Mark Mancina - l'un de mes compositeurs préférés issus de la Media Ventures avec entre autre Harry Gregson-Williams - qui contrairement a ces scores bourrins mais non moins interessant et reussis pour "--Speed"--, "--Bad Boys"--, "--Fair Game"-- ou encore "--Con Air"--, sait limité niveau musical, nous offrant un score amer, tragique et parfois entrainant.
Ce score est surtout mené par un théme amer et tragique pour evoquer surement cette journée que l'on sait trés bien en fin de compte qu'elle se finira dans la violence.
Ce théme facilement reperable et meme memorisable pour certains beophiles, s'achevera de maniere traqique a la fin du film, synoyme de la fin d'une journée memorable pour les protagonistes interpréte par Denzel Washinton et Ethan Hawke.
Ce score prouve donc la maturité d'un compositeur qui malgré son depart de la boite de Hans Zimmer continue de nous surprendre et ceux meme pour des films a l'interet douteux ou trop sous-estimes comme "--The Haunted Mansion"-- et "--Brother Bear"--.
Training Day est donc se chef d'oeuvre de Mark Mancina a classé dans les b.o. fait avec reflection comme "--The Thin Red Line"-- de Hans Zimmer.
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Herman reply Replies: 0 || 2005-05-11 00:00:00
un score trés sombre et different de SPEED, BAD BOYS ou encore CON AIR, Mark Mancina à ecrit une excellente musique qui termine brillament laissant un cote gangsta a l'excellent film de Antoine Fuqua
du grand art

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