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Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.
The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.
You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.
Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!Oh, yes.<br><br>Maybe this month, right?The album is ready. Just waiting for legal to settle it... It'll happen.And about The Rhythm Section?, Mazzaro said the score is mastered...
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Mark MancinaDave MetzgerChuck ChoiDon Harper
ComposerAdditional MusicScore ProducerConductor
Training Day (Complete Score)
Label: Promotional Release
Length: 100'00
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CD1
  1. Welcome To The Jungle (4:41)
  2. Homes, Play With Us (5:39)
  3. Life's A Trip (2:36)
  4. Chase On The Roof - Fight With Alonzo (Alternate) (3:00)
  5. Jake's Fatigue (1:35)
  6. Crackin' Nuts (1:59)
  7. Roger (3:14)
  8. As The World Turned (1:54)
  9. Drive To Smiley (1:19)
  10. Car Surfing (1:02)
  11. Going After Sandman (1:29)
  12. Death Is Certain (Alternate) (1:27)
  13. The Appointment (1:12)
  14. Death Is Certain (1:10)
  15. Training Day (2:41)
  16. A Little Ambush (2:22)
  17. Wolf Against Dogs (3:32)
  18. Wolf Against Dogs (Alternate) (3:20)
  19. End Titles (2:58)
  20. Interrupting A Ditch - Party (1:54)
  21. Alonzo (2:35)
CD2
  1. Alonzo (Reprise) (2:34)
  2. Alonzo (Reprise Alternate) (2:34)
  3. Father & Son (1:20)
  4. The Scenario (5:46)
  5. Green Light (3:26)
  6. Green Light (Alternate) (3:25)
  7. I'm Here For Alonzo (2:48)
  8. Preserve Life (3:43)
  9. This Is The Game (Fill-In) (0:30)
  10. This Is The Game (Conclusion Alternate) (0:31)
  11. This Is The Game (Conclusion) (0:33)
  12. Death Is Certain (Alternate II) (1:22)
  13. Scoring Sessions I (1:42)
  14. Scoring Sessions I (12 Reprise) (0:34)
  15. Scoring Sessions II (1:01)
  16. The Office (0:49)
  17. Smiles & Cries (2:02)
  18. This Is The Game (4:04)
  19. Traffic Jam (Alternate) (0:54)
  20. Money (2:43)
  21. Timeless (0:29)
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Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2020-01-28 21:18:21
Does anyone know what the correct chronological tracklist for this would be?

Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-12 18:47:49
Finally listened to the whole score. It's funny, it's not the type of score that "pops out" in the movie, there are no "epic" cues, but when you actually listen to the whole thing separately from the movie, it's an exceptional piece of work. IMO, one of Mancina's best scores. Easily.

And it's the type of score that we rarely encounter nowadays. Sadly. And I will say that if you are tired or if you flat-out hate the "sound design" scores that we see everywhere now, then Training Day is for you. Give it a listen : )

takehiro reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-07 00:00:00
Sadly, NOT the complete score. I think four cues are missing (by another composer?) and Fight with Alonzo has the end crudely cut off.

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daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-09 00:00:00
tanks

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-27 00:00:00
CD 1 :

1. Welcome To The Jungle (4:41)
2. Homes, Play With Us (5:39)
3. Life’s A Trip (2:36)
4. Chase On The Roof – Fight With Alonzo (Alternate) (3:00)
5. Jake’s Fatigue (1:35)
6. Crackin’ Nuts (1:59)
7. Roger (3:14)
8. As The World Turned (1:54)
9. Drive To Smiley (1:19)
10. Car Surfing (1:02)
11. Going After Sandman (1:29)
12. Death Is Certain (Alternate) (1:27)
13. The Appointment (1:12)
14. Death Is Certain (1:10)
15. Training Day (2:41)
16. A Little Ambush (2:22)
17. Wolf Against Dogs (3:32)
18. Wolf Against Dogs (Alternate) (3:20)
19. End Titles (2:58)
20. Interrupting A Ditch – Party (1:54)
21. Alonzo (2:35)

CD 2 :
1. Alonzo (Reprise) (2:34)
2. Alonzo (Reprise Alternate) (2:34)
3. Father & Son (1:20)
4. The Scenario (5:46)
5. Green Light (3:26)
6. Green Light (Alternate) (3:25)
7. I’m Here For Alonzo (2:48)
8. Preserve Life (3:43)
9. This Is The Game (Fill-In) (0:30)
10. This Is The Game (Conclusion Alternate) (0:31)
11. This Is The Game (Conclusion) (0:33)
12. Death Is Certain (Alternate II) (1:22)
13. Scoring Sessions I (1:42)
14. Scoring Sessions I (12 Reprise) (0:34)
15. Scoring Sessions II (1:01)
16. The Office (0:49)
17. Smiles & Cries (2:02)
18. This Is The Game (4:04)
19. Traffic Jam (Alternate) (0:54)
20. Money (2:43)
21. Timeless (0:29)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-26 00:00:00
Antas, I have the tracklist for this one, I'll give it later...

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Zedman reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-20 00:00:00
"--Training Day"-- marque la maturité sinon artistique de Mark Mancina - l'un de mes compositeurs préférés issus de la Media Ventures avec entre autre Harry Gregson-Williams - qui contrairement a ces scores bourrins mais non moins interessant et reussis pour "--Speed"--, "--Bad Boys"--, "--Fair Game"-- ou encore "--Con Air"--, sait limité niveau musical, nous offrant un score amer, tragique et parfois entrainant.
Ce score est surtout mené par un théme amer et tragique pour evoquer surement cette journée que l'on sait trés bien en fin de compte qu'elle se finira dans la violence.
Ce théme facilement reperable et meme memorisable pour certains beophiles, s'achevera de maniere traqique a la fin du film, synoyme de la fin d'une journée memorable pour les protagonistes interpréte par Denzel Washinton et Ethan Hawke.
Ce score prouve donc la maturité d'un compositeur qui malgré son depart de la boite de Hans Zimmer continue de nous surprendre et ceux meme pour des films a l'interet douteux ou trop sous-estimes comme "--The Haunted Mansion"-- et "--Brother Bear"--.
Training Day est donc se chef d'oeuvre de Mark Mancina a classé dans les b.o. fait avec reflection comme "--The Thin Red Line"-- de Hans Zimmer.
Parfait!!!

Herman reply Replies: 0 || 2005-05-11 00:00:00
un score trés sombre et different de SPEED, BAD BOYS ou encore CON AIR, Mark Mancina à ecrit une excellente musique qui termine brillament laissant un cote gangsta a l'excellent film de Antoine Fuqua
du grand art

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