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Dunno if this is a troll post or a legit one... but I do agree to an extent. Both Mortal Engines and Alita show a HUGE improvement in Tom’s compositional technique, regardless of Conrad Pope’s contribution (which I’m sure still has something to do with it.) <br><br>I actually enjoy his early works (300, Point Break, Run All Night, Divergent) but you can definitely hear the vast difference in quality over time, and as Tom grows as a composer I’m sure his future scores will be the same way.5 years and it sounds like a blend of bvs and fury road. both of which come after it.Woah, this sounds outdated already, like a bad 90s video game. For the record, it was composed 4 years ago. This fetishization of technology over compositional technique is absolutely ridiculous. <br><br>Now, Tom has seen the errors of his ways and hired some actual orchestrators (not the RCP clown bunch) and Mortal Engines and Battle Angel Alita are actually excellent scores. They show that he masters compositional technique to the hilt. This early stuff - I suspect it will be buried soon. <br>Richter is a conceptual artist, I love his Leftovers score, but come one, scoring to picture ?<br><br>He writes pieces that are used in scenes, not the other way around...<br><br>Richter scoring a moon buggy chase ? Hell no... lol you could see from day one it was gonna be replaced...^ Yeah the edit floating around matches Felix’s almost to a T. Only major difference is <br><br>“Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale”<br><br>Which is broken up into four separate cues. Realistically you could edit it anyway you want if you prefer the smaller cues. Personally, I like the long suite-like format of this release. Kinda like the album release for “Event Horizon” lol.
I hope they at least release Richter's score.My Edit:<br><br>01. Rise Of An Empire - Marathon - King Darius - Artemisia - Man To God - War (13:36)<br>= <br><br>M1A Rise of An Empire (09:48)<br>M1B From Man to God King (03:44)<br><br>02. Greek Council - Persian War Plan - Spartan Fight Training - Greek Conversation - Your Commander Is Greek (10:47) <br>=<br><br>M2 Greek Council (03:39)<br>M3 Greek Conversation (07:06)<br><br>05. Suicide - General Bandari - Circle Battle (7:30) <br>=<br><br>M6 Suicide/General Bandari (02:10)<br>M7 Circle Battle (05:16)<br><br>06. Sex - Fire Battle (12:04) <br>=<br><br>M10 Sex (05:36)<br>M11 Fire Battle (06:21)<br><br>11. Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale (16:08) <br>=<br><br>M15-17A Our Final Stand/Showdown Pt.1 (08:19)<br>M17B-19 Showdown Pt.2/Finale (07:37)I'm not really interested in Balfe's part of work, but it would be a big disappointment if Richter's work wouldn't released.<br><br>But I think there's a good chance that movie (and music in particular) get an Oscar nominations, so let's just hope for the best.@mpolonest123 any idea how to break up the really long cues on the complete? it’s a lot of tracks that are made up of several cuesArtemisia Suite = History of Artemisia <br>Greek Action Suite = Marathon <br>Xerxes Rebirth Suite = From Man to God King<br>Greek Sacrifice Suite = ???<br>Artemisia’s Childhood Suite = Artemisia’s Childhood<br>Greek Attack Suite = Greeks on Attack<br>Queen Gorgo Suite = Queen Gorgo<br>Xerxes Thoughts Suite = Xerxes Thoughts<br>Greek History Suite = History of the Greeks<br>Greek Victory Suite = Greeks Are Winning<br><br>Hope this helps! :-)
Hybrid can you tell us what album cues are the suites ?!well, from what Lorne wrote on Twitter, it should be releasedCool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.The Hans cues used are :<br><br>1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)<br>1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)<br>2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES<br>2M3 BLACK WOLF<br>2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)<br>3M1 THIN ICE<br>3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH<br>3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK<br>3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK<br>6M4 THE BEAR<br>6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK<br>7M3 IN THE STABLE<br>7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN<br>8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)<br>8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)<br><br>All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues please
I imagined it ... hopefully this time Max Ritcher does not give him a lollipop and refuses to launch his musicYes Unbreakable.
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<br>Exactly like White Fang. Have Poledouris write a score, then HZ do another, then pick what you want from both.
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<br>Ghost In The Shell was kinda different...In the credits of the movie, Max Ritcher appears as the Main Composer, meanwhile, Lorne appears as Additional MusicI find that it would be best to accredit both and launch the two soundtracks and all happy.Hybrid implies that Max Ritcher's score was rejected, and that Lorne made a new one and in the end, the best of both has been used.  I am right?
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It - Chapter Two
Label: WaterTower Music
Length: 101'12
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  1. 27 Years Later (2:06)
  2. Memory (1:39)
  3. Come Home (2:24)
  4. I Swear, Bill (1:30)
  5. Beverly Escapes (2:20)
  6. Henry Bowers (1:21)
  7. Firefly (3:08)
  8. Losers Reunited (0:52)
  9. Echo (1:44)
  10. Fortune Cookies (2:10)
  11. You Knew (1:49)
  12. The Library (2:07)
  13. Shokopiwah (3:28)
  14. The Barrens (1:21)
  15. The Clubhouse (3:48)
  16. Perfume (2:35)
  17. Mrs. Kersh (1:46)
  18. Miss Me, Richie? (1:23)
  19. Dirty Little Secret (feat. Pennywise) (1:20)
  20. Silver Bullet (1:53)
  21. Why Georgie? (3:45)
  22. Your Hair Is Winter Fire (3:20)
  23. Eddie And The Leper (1:50)
  24. Festival Pursuit (1:06)
  25. Hall Of Mirrors (2:14)
  26. Bar Mitzvah (1:35)
  27. Bowers Attack (1:18)
  28. Back To Neibolt (2:49)
  29. Home At Last (1:28)
  30. It's Stan (2:03)
  31. This Is Where It Happened (2:03)
  32. The Place Of It (1:56)
  33. Artifacts (3:09)
  34. The Ritual Of Chüd (2:04)
  35. Very Scary (1:39)
  36. Scary (1:30)
  37. Not Scary At All (1:25)
  38. You Lied And I Died (2:54)
  39. My Heart Burns There Too (2:29)
  40. Spider Attack (3:28)
  41. You're All Grown Up (5:23)
  42. Neibolt Escape (1:35)
  43. Nothing Lasts Forever (4:17)
  44. Goodbye (0:54)
  45. Stan's Letter (4:17)
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DT-201 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-09-13 17:45:37
Anybody else notice that the track "Spider Attack" actually cuts a fairly noticeable section out at the beginning? When you know who is attacked by the Deadlights, there's those low blasts like the "Deadlights" track from Chapter 1.

It shouldn't be a biggie though: it seems to be an easily-replicatable section.

Y reply Replies: 7 || 2019-08-30 14:14:36
What, no one's commenting on this? It's both great and massively aggravating. There's so many moments of ethereal melodic beauty but they get violated by massively aggressive sound procession. Yes, it is a frigging film score. Anyways, you lot will enjoy the Shore reference in The Ritual of Chud.


mpolonest123 2019-08-30 15:39:18
How you end up enjoying this depends on how you felt about the first It.

On one hand BW really did wonders on the orchestral side of things. He definitely focuses on the fantasy aspect moreso this time around, with portions sounding closer to the magical parts of “Shazam”. The last handful of cues are stunning.

On the other, many of the horror tracks seem to bleed together here. There doesn’t seem to be the same amount of variety as the first score. I also noticed that certain cues pull heavily from the first one, something JNH tends to do in his sequel scores.


MrZimmerFan2019-08-30 18:30:27
I like the first IT, but i am throughfully enjoyed this one a lot more.

Specially the last handful tracks are terrific, overall, a tremendous good score


Meta2019-08-31 15:21:58
As benjamin climbs the charts in popularity in scoring movies, i have to say he's been hit or miss with me.

Blade Runner, It pt 1 and Hellboy (only because it reminds me of Xbox Killer Insinct music) stand out...the rest to me are meh


Knight2019-08-31 21:11:58
I'd recommend his scores for Summer in Feburary, Mully, Gamba, Bitter Harvest and Bhopal: A Prayer for Rain. All these are leagues better than his current output imo, I'd put Mully and Summer in Feburary as my favourite scores of his.


BC2019-09-01 08:57:52
I'm on my first listen now and I'm pretty disappointed. The emotional/orchestral pieces like "Firefly","Memory" and "Losers Reunited" are really nice and work well, while the actually horror tracks are just a jumble of noise and sound.

I really would have preferred him to break with horror soundtrack tradition and do a fully orchestral score instead of using loud, jarring noises to amplify what I'm assuming are going to be jump scares. The latter is really lazy and it sucks because it's hard to find good horror scores these days.

I've still got a fair portion of the album left, so my opinion might change, but it seems like the whole score is going to be like this.


tilibro2019-09-02 00:48:15
Rule No. 1 of all modern horror movie scores: Always have loud banging percussion when there's a "scary" moment.


BC2019-09-02 01:55:13
@tilibro

Ugh, I know. Carpenter's score for Halloween last year was the first horror score since Evil Dead that I really, really liked.

I wrapped up my listen of this last night and aside from the horror tracks I really, really liked it. But my frustration with the horror tracks is made even worse because the orchestral tracks do an amazing job of conveying that creeping, unsettling feeling. "You Knew" was a great example of a mixture between the horror elements (that guitar riff was a BIG surprise and I wish it had been used more) and the orchestral. And tracks 28-36 were fantastic. THAT was what I was hoping for, those tracks proves that Ben is definitely capable of it.

LS100 Studios reply Replies: 0 || 2019-09-01 23:58:25
Is 27 Years Later the only reprise of that piano theme? Gonna save the score for after watching the film.

Der Profl reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-31 21:02:25
Nothing Lasts Forever is so good. I can't stop listening to this.

Mr.Unbreakable reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-31 00:03:36
Has Ben really composed all the songs without arrangers?


Knight2019-08-31 08:26:39
I don't see any arrangers credited on imdb so I'm inclined to say yes he did. Remember, he also wrote all of Shazam by himself as well.

DT-2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-29 18:35:43
The tracks "Return To Niebolt" and "Scary" have been posted to WaterTower Music's official YouTube page as a taster.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 5 || 2019-08-29 01:04:29
Very excited for this! I think BW did a great job with the first score, given the constraints horror music usually puts on composers. Hopefully he is able to keep the same balance of orchestral/processed sound design.


MrZimmerFan2019-08-29 15:25:56
1 h and 41 min.


Jean-Luc2019-08-29 18:16:25
WaterTower Music released one song called Back To Neibolt on YouTube, and, I can't wait to hear the rest of 45 tracks till the midnight.


MrZimmerFan2019-08-29 18:24:11
Score comes out tomorrow


MrZimmerFan2019-08-29 18:25:14
1. 27 Years Later
2. Memory
3. Come Home
4. I Swear, Bill
5. Beverly Escapes
6. Henry Bowers
7. Firefly
8. Losers Reunited
9. Echo
10. Fortune Cookies
11. You Knew
12. The Library
13. Shokopiwah
14. The Barrens
15. The Clubhouse
16. Perfume
17. Mrs. Kersh
18. Miss Me, Richie?
19. Dirty Little Secret (Feat. Pennywise)
20. Silver Bullet
21. Why Georgie?
22. Your Hair Is Winter Fire
23. Eddie and the Leper
24. Festival Pursuit
1. Hall of Mirrors
2. Bar Mitzvah
3. Bowers Attack
4. Back to Neibolt
5. Home at Last
6. It's Stan
7. This Is Where It Happened
8. The Place of It
9. Artifacts
10. The Ritual of CHÜD
11. Very Scary
12. Scary
13. Not Scary at All
14. You Lied and I Died
15. My Heart Burns There Too
16. Spider Attack
17. You're All Grown Up
18. Neibolt Escape
19. Nothing Lasts Forever
20. Goodbye
21. Stan's Letter


Jean-Luc2019-08-29 18:27:11
@MrZimmerFan Thank you for the tracklist!

DT-2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-29 18:24:06
I think the tracklist is on Amazon now.

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